• Zork

    From HusTler@77:77/10 to All on Mon Jul 22 22:36:00 2019

    Just curious. Has anyone in BBS land ever played Zork I II III or beyond?


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  • From Netsurge@77:1/100 to HusTler on Tue Jul 23 01:32:56 2019
    Just curious. Has anyone in BBS land ever played Zork I II III or beyond?

    I have played I, II and III. Spent most of my time play III though.

    Those old text adventure games were awesome. We were forced to use our imaginations to get lost in an adventure. No fancy graphics, no overclocking
    to get a few more FPS's, no lengthy downloads. Just your imagination and some graph paper.

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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@77:77/10 to HUSTLER on Thu Feb 27 09:53:00 2020
    HUSTLER wrote to ALL <=-

    Just curious. Has anyone in BBS land ever played Zork I II III or beyond?

    I played around with a LOT of text adventures back in the day, but I
    don't think I ever did more than 'look at' Zork, and never touched
    2 or 3...




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  • From jokker@77:1/100 to JIMMY ANDERSON on Fri Mar 6 22:32:34 2020
    Just curious. Has anyone in BBS land ever played Zork I II III or beyond?

    I played around with a LOT of text adventures back in the day, but I
    don't think I ever did more than 'look at' Zork, and never touched
    2 or 3...

    I've definitely put some time in Zork I, II and Return To Zork but never
    tried Zork III or Beyond Zork yet. I can see myself at some point because
    there is really something special about those type of games.

    Special in that they are evocative but also mind-bogglingly frustrating at
    the same time. :D

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  • From Phoobar@77:1/129 to jokker on Fri Mar 6 20:08:48 2020
    I've definitely put some time in Zork I, II and Return To Zork but never tried Zork III or Beyond Zork yet. I can see myself at some point because

    You can actually play the 1st 3 Zork's online on DoorParty...as well as
    picking them up with a bunch of others from several websites. Leather Goddess of Phobos & Hitchhiker's Guide are some more you can play online.

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  • From jokker@77:1/100 to Phoobar on Sat Mar 7 09:31:26 2020
    You can actually play the 1st 3 Zork's online on DoorParty...as well as picking them up with a bunch of others from several websites. Leather Goddess of Phobos & Hitchhiker's Guide are some more you can play online.


    Yeah they are pretty much on every possible platform you can imagine old and new. I was recently playing it on my Trash-80 for the feel of that keyboard.

    Another adventure series I want to get into at some point is the whole Scott Adams set. Probably need to play them an old VIC20, TRS-80 or C64 just to
    enjoy the atmosphere of it.

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  • From jack phlash@77:1/911 to JIMMY ANDERSON on Sat Mar 7 13:54:34 2020
    on 27 Feb 2020, JIMMY ANDERSON said...

    I played around with a LOT of text adventures back in the day, but I
    don't think I ever did more than 'look at' Zork, and never touched
    2 or 3...

    I loved Zork but never played them until the 90s when Return to Zork was building up hype. I was confounded by how to progress in the first part for literally years, as I don't recall it ever explicitly telling you it is of the old Adventure inspired treasure hunt variety, so I was approaching it more
    like a Sierra or Lucasarts adventure game and at some point the breadcrumbs kind of just... end. Once I finally figured that out I beat it quickly, and then hunkered down and beat 2 and 3 in very short order. I tried but could never get into any of the others (Beyond Zork and Zork Zero, mainly) though I did end up playing quite a few of the other Infocom text adventures. Good stuff. <3

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  • From Netsurge@77:1/100 to jack phlash on Sat Mar 7 18:19:58 2020
    I loved Zork but never played them until the 90s when Return to Zork was building up hype. I was confounded by how to progress in the first part for literally years, as I don't recall it ever explicitly telling you it is of the old Adventure inspired treasure hunt variety, so I was approaching it more like a Sierra or Lucasarts adventure game and at
    some point the breadcrumbs kind of just... end. Once I finally figured that out I beat it quickly, and then hunkered down and beat 2 and 3 in very short order. I tried but could never get into any of the others (Beyond Zork and Zork Zero, mainly) though I did end up playing quite a few of the other Infocom text adventures. Good stuff. <3

    Get Lamp
    Look at Phlash
    Run in horror

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  • From ryan@77:1/128 to Netsurge on Sat Mar 7 15:45:34 2020
    Get Lamp
    Look at Phlash
    Run in horror

    OT, but this gave me a bit of an idea.

    I love scummvm-enabled adventure games. Sierra SCI games in particular, but also LucasArts games.

    BBS games tend to be one of three types: Button mash LORD types, strategy/trader types, and MUDs.

    There's a gap in a true semi-guided adventure game. I think MUDs try to do
    this but not very well...it would be neat to have something akin to an Ansi-enabled MUD type game. Something like Leisure Suit Larry. Just make it multiplayer and dumb the graphics down to ansi.

    Anyway just rambling. :P

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  • From Netsurge@77:1/100 to ryan on Sat Mar 7 19:50:30 2020
    There's a gap in a true semi-guided adventure game. I think MUDs try to
    do this but not very well...it would be neat to have something akin to an Ansi-enabled MUD type game. Something like Leisure Suit Larry. Just make it multiplayer and dumb the graphics down to ansi.

    That is a great idea, probably a bit too much for one author to write, but if
    a few people piled in, it would be great.

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  • From ryan@77:1/128 to Netsurge on Sat Mar 7 16:58:14 2020
    That is a great idea, probably a bit too much for one author to write,
    but if a few people piled in, it would be great.

    Delving further into fantasy land, maybe all we need is an engine that you
    plug scripts into.

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  • From Netsurge@77:1/100 to ryan on Sat Mar 7 19:59:06 2020
    Delving further into fantasy land, maybe all we need is an engine that
    you plug scripts into.

    You mean like ScummVM?

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  • From jack phlash@77:1/911 to Netsurge on Sat Mar 7 18:15:58 2020
    on 07 Mar 2020, Netsurge said...

    Get Lamp
    Look at Phlash
    Run in horror

    There is no horror here to run in.

    You stand in a puddle of your own urine, cowering from the fearsome Phlash. There is a ladder leading up to the outside world. You urine drains into a small grate over a hole just large enough to squeeze through below you.



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  • From jack phlash@77:1/911 to ryan on Sat Mar 7 18:19:40 2020
    on 07 Mar 2020, ryan said...

    OT, but this gave me a bit of an idea.

    I love scummvm-enabled adventure games. Sierra SCI games in particular, but also LucasArts games.

    BBS games tend to be one of three types: Button mash LORD types, strategy/trader types, and MUDs.

    There's a gap in a true semi-guided adventure game. I think MUDs try to
    do this but not very well...it would be neat to have something akin to an Ansi-enabled MUD type game. Something like Leisure Suit Larry. Just make it multiplayer and dumb the graphics down to ansi.

    Anyway just rambling. :P

    There's plenty of text adventures/interactive fiction playable on BBSes. I wrote a simple engine for building IF years ago, but never built anything
    with it beyond a half finished port of Softporn Adventure. As for a graphic game more like Sierra's old AGI, that would be pretty cool. Doable, I think, though I'm not sure how great you could produce a lot of those scenes in
    ANSI. I mean, the original 160 x 200 was already pretty rough. :P

    I do think my next game will involve something more graphical, but I don't
    know what that'll be yet. Still a lot I want to do with Darkness 2.0 first.

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  • From Netsurge@77:1/100 to jack phlash on Sat Mar 7 21:58:52 2020
    There is no horror here to run in.

    You stand in a puddle of your own urine, cowering from the fearsome Phlash. There is a ladder leading up to the outside world. You urine drains into a small grate over a hole just large enough to squeeze
    through below you.

    Get Lighter
    Fill Pipe
    Light Pipe
    Inhale Wasbashi strain
    Contemplate why we park on a driveway and drive on a parkway

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  • From jack phlash@77:1/911 to Netsurge on Sun Mar 8 13:11:20 2020
    on 07 Mar 2020, Netsurge said...

    Contemplate why we park on a driveway and drive on a parkway

    Congratulations, you blew up the evil Z-machine! The world as you know it dissolves around you revealing a far more hideous reality. Without the ever- watching eye of Infocom's AI to keep order, you find a society in utter disarray. With visions of soccer moms fighting over megapacks of toilet paper in grocery stores and trolling each other's Facebook feeds with political memes, you close your eyes and pray for a grue attack to bring this all to a merciful end. The adventure continues in Zork II: The Wizard of Wuhan!

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  • From Netsurge@77:1/100 to jack phlash on Sun Mar 8 17:49:48 2020
    Congratulations, you blew up the evil Z-machine! The world as you know it dissolves around you revealing a far more hideous reality. Without the ever- watching eye of Infocom's AI to keep order, you find a society in utter disarray. With visions of soccer moms fighting over megapacks of toilet paper in grocery stores and trolling each other's Facebook feeds with political memes, you close your eyes and pray for a grue attack to bring this all to a merciful end. The adventure continues in Zork II:
    The Wizard of Wuhan!

    Why do I have a feeling this will end up in Darkness 2!

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  • From jack phlash@77:1/911 to Netsurge on Sun Mar 8 21:19:50 2020
    on 08 Mar 2020, Netsurge said...

    Why do I have a feeling this will end up in Darkness 2!

    I was thinking about some sort of event relating to scavengers hording toilet paper. :P

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  • From Phoobar@77:1/129 to jokker on Sun Mar 8 23:20:26 2020
    Yeah they are pretty much on every possible platform you can imagine old and new. I was recently playing it on my Trash-80 for the feel of that keyboard.

    Had many of these on the C64. Don't care what system they are on...still
    great classics.

    Another adventure series I want to get into at some point is the whole Scott Adams set. Probably need to play them an old VIC20, TRS-80 or C64 just to enjoy the atmosphere of it.

    There is always VICE for the Commodore versions. I actually bought C64/Amiga Forever to support the work they are doing.

    Your wish is my command. Here ya go:

    https://www.mobygames.com/game-group/scott-adams-classic-adventures

    The 1 thing I love about the remade C64's is them having Impossible Missions
    on them.

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  • From Netsurge@77:1/100 to jack phlash on Mon Mar 9 10:07:58 2020
    I was thinking about some sort of event relating to scavengers hording toilet paper. :P

    Yes and you should have currency exchanged for it!

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  • From Embalmed@77:1/133 to Phoobar on Thu Mar 19 00:10:08 2020
    You can actually play the 1st 3 Zork's online on DoorParty...as well as picking them up with a bunch of others from several websites. Leather Goddess of Phobos & Hitchhiker's Guide are some more you can play online.
    I really want to host these on my BBS but I could never get them working, and
    I didn't want to use DoorParty.

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  • From Embalmed@77:1/133 to Netsurge on Thu Mar 19 00:15:50 2020
    There's a gap in a true semi-guided adventure game. I think MUDs try do this but not very well...it would be neat to have something akin t Ansi-enabled MUD type game. Something like Leisure Suit Larry. Just m it multiplayer and dumb the graphics down to ansi.

    That is a great idea, probably a bit too much for one author to write,
    but if a few people piled in, it would be great.
    Love it :)

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  • From jack phlash@77:1/911 to Embalmed on Thu Mar 19 08:32:10 2020
    on 19 Mar 2020, Embalmed said...

    I really want to host these on my BBS but I could never get them
    working, and I didn't want to use DoorParty.

    There's actually an old Z-machine interpreter that I used to play with in the 90s tht was extremely easy to get setup but I can't remember (or find) the
    name of it right now. Argh.

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  • From Embalmed@77:1/133 to jack phlash on Thu Mar 19 10:51:54 2020
    There's actually an old Z-machine interpreter that I used to play with
    in the 90s tht was extremely easy to get setup but I can't remember (or find) the name of it right now. Argh.
    If you find it holler :)

    I played with a z-machine thing but the text was never displayed properly
    when doing it via bbs.

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  • From Phoobar@77:1/129 to Embalmed on Thu Mar 19 14:31:16 2020
    Goddess of Phobos & Hitchhiker's Guide are some more you can play onl
    I really want to host these on my BBS but I could never get them
    working, and I didn't want to use DoorParty.

    That's why I used DoorParty to connect up to someone else's board who has it running. Being mainly a message board...it's easier to make sure those who
    want to game can do so.

    In terms of running these old DOS games...was able to get them to play locally...but not over the wire.

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  • From jack phlash@77:1/911 to Embalmed on Thu Mar 19 16:20:02 2020
    on 19 Mar 2020, Embalmed said...

    If you find it holler :)

    I did some digging and it occurs to me that I probably misremembered - I'm pretty sure it was actually WINFOCOM which was a Waffle BBS propreitary door that I doubt you can easily get working with anything else. I was playing
    with and running Waffle for a brief time back in the 90s. :) Search for WINFO100.ZIP if you want to try playing with it though.

    I played with a z-machine thing but the text was never displayed properly when doing it via bbs.

    Yeah, there are some methods for sending DOS I/O out which would let you use
    a normal interpreter. This is actually well documented in the NetFoss user guide here: http://pcmicro.com/netfoss/guide/. Not sure what OS you're
    on, but someone even made a special port of Frotz specifically to be used this way (for Linux): https://github.com/DavidGriffith/FrotzDoor

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  • From Embalmed@77:1/133 to jack phlash on Thu Mar 19 17:57:46 2020
    what OS you're on, but someone even made a special port of Frotz specifically to be used this way (for Linux):

    Yes that's the one I was working with, but I never got the text to display properly at all. I'll check out the guide you linked earlier in ghe post.

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  • From Embalmed@77:1/133 to jack phlash on Sat Mar 21 09:51:20 2020
    Yeah, there are some methods for sending DOS I/O out which would let you use a normal interpreter. This is actually well documented in the
    NetFoss user guide here: http://pcmicro.com/netfoss/guide/. Not sure
    what OS you're on, but someone even made a special port of Frotz specifically to be used this way (for Linux): https://github.com/DavidGriffith/FrotzDoor

    So I was poking around with FrotzDoor again. If i run the zmachine from
    shell it works great, but when I launch it from mystic it's completely
    screwed up. I even tried the stty business setting 80x25 prior to executing and it still doesnt' display properly.

    I probably need to involve netfoss somehow, but I'm not sure. FrotzDoor doesn't use any door.sys or whatnot AFAICT.

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  • From ryan@77:1/128 to Embalmed on Sat Mar 21 11:26:32 2020
    So I was poking around with FrotzDoor again. If i run the zmachine from shell it works great, but when I launch it from mystic it's completely screwed up. I even tried the stty business setting 80x25 prior to executing and it still doesnt' display properly.

    Interesting, I just installed frotz and zonk 1/2/3 on my BBS last night but hadn't heard of frotzDoor. Evidently frotz gives some access to the
    underlying file system (which I don't want to do) so I may explore this
    myself.

    Admittedly I'm late to the thread here. I'm going to try running something
    like this in linux. I'll let you know if I have success.

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  • From Embalmed@77:1/133 to ryan on Sat Mar 21 16:59:52 2020
    Admittedly I'm late to the thread here. I'm going to try running
    something like this in linux. I'll let you know if I have success.
    Please do as i'm also running 64 bit linux. I'm sure we can figure it out amongst us =)

    Also, how is your dog doing?

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  • From jack phlash@77:1/911 to ryan on Sat Mar 21 18:24:00 2020
    on 21 Mar 2020, ryan said...

    I just installed frotz and zonk 1/2/3 on my BBS last night...

    That's it, I'm *totally* making a text game called Zonk!

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  • From ryan@77:1/128 to Embalmed on Sun Mar 22 01:54:32 2020
    Please do as i'm also running 64 bit linux. I'm sure we can figure it out amongst us =)

    Ok, I got zork working. I used FrotzDoor and downloaded the zork data files.
    I have the frotz binary and the data files in /doors/zork. I launch the games from mystic, %1 being for the exact ZORK%1.DAT file (Zork 1, 2, or 3, since there are three versions of the game), and the second arg is the user number.

    To launch the game, the script sets the TERM to ansi-bbs (google synchronet termcap linux to find instructions to get this working), cd's into the
    correct directory, and runs
    stty cols 80 rows 25 && /doors/zork/frotz -F -R $2 ZORK$1.DAT

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  • From Embalmed@77:1/133 to ryan on Sun Mar 22 10:15:10 2020
    To launch the game, the script sets the TERM to ansi-bbs (google synchronet termcap linux to find instructions to get this working), cd's into the correct directory, and runs
    stty cols 80 rows 25 && /doors/zork/frotz -F -R $2 ZORK$1.DAT

    Hmm, that is essentially what I did minus the termcap thing, I'll look into
    it. Thanks

    I did it slightly different from you I pass in the name of the z machine file so i can play all of scott adams games and house them in a single directory
    but that is very minor.

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  • From Embalmed@77:1/133 to ryan on Sun Mar 22 21:06:58 2020
    Ok, I got zork working. I used FrotzDoor and downloaded the zork data

    Hrm I must be missing something because adding the /etc/termcap file didn't change anything afaict.

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  • From ryan@77:1/128 to Embalmed on Mon Mar 23 01:10:44 2020
    Hrm I must be missing something because adding the /etc/termcap file didn't change anything afaict.

    What's the issue you're running into specifically?

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  • From Embalmed@77:1/133 to ryan on Mon Mar 23 14:17:44 2020
    What's the issue you're running into specifically?
    the screen is all squished together.

    if you want to see what i mean hop on my BBS, go to D- Doors -> %- More Doors, then run $-Adventureland

    When you said you 'set the terminal to ansi-bbs' what exactly did you do?


    here are the scripts i'm using

    mystic@blrbbs:/opt/mystic/doors$ cat frotz.sh
    #!/bin/bash
    cd /opt/mystic/doors/zcode
    TERM=ansi-bbs stty rows 80 cols 25 && /usr/local/bin/frotz -R saves $1


    mystic@blrbbs:/opt/mystic/doors$ cat /etc/termcap
    # Needs xt?
    # am rather than YE?
    # ic=\E[@ (Insert char - nonstandard?)
    # IC=\E[%d@ (Insert multiple chars - nonstandard?)
    # bt=\E[Z (Backtab - nonstandard?)
    # dc=\E[P (Delete char - nonstandard?)
    # DC=\E[%dP (Delete X chars - nonstandard?)
    # dl=\E[M (Delete line - nonstandard?)
    # :DL=\E[%dM (Delete X lines - nonstandard?)
    # al=\E[L (Insert line - nonstandard?)
    # AL=\E[%dL (Insert X lines - nonstandard?)
    # cv=\E[%i%dH (Move to row x - don't change y - unsupported?)
    ansi-bbs:\
    :eo:mi:ms:NP:ut:am:\
    :co#80:li#24:Co#8:pa#64:\
    :bl=^G:cr=^M:cl=\E[2J\E[H:ce=\E[K:cd=\E[J:cm=\E[%i%d;%dH:do=\E[B:\
    :ho=\E[H:le=\E[D:nd=\E[C:up=\E[A:mb=\E[5m:md=\E[1m:\
    :mk=\E[8m:mr=\E[7m:us=\E[4m:me=\E[m:\
    :DO=\E[%dB:LE=\E[%dD:RI=\E[%dC:UP=\E[%dA:\
    :r1=\E[m\E[2J\E[H:rc=\E[u:sc=\E[s:ta=^I:cb=\E[1K:\
    :AF=\E[3%dm:AB=\E[4%dm:op=\E[m:\

    :ac=l\332m\300k\277j\331u\264t\303v\301w\302q\304x\263n\305`^Da\260f\370g\361~\ 371.^Y-^Xh\261i^U0\333y\363z\362:\
    :ku=\E[A:kd=\E[B:kr=\E[C:kl=\E[D:\
    :kb=^H:kD=\177:kH=\E[Y:kN=\E[U:kP=\E[V:\
    :kh=\E[H:@7=\E[K:\

    :k1=\EOP:k2=\EOQ:k3=\EOR:k4=\EOS:k5=\EOt:k6=\E[17~:k7=\E[18~:k8=\E[19~:k9=\E[20 ~:k;=\E[21~:F1=\E[23~:F2=\E[24~:

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  • From Embalmed@77:1/133 to Embalmed on Mon Mar 23 14:27:56 2020

    Hmm, I changed from just TERM=ansi-bbs to export TERM=ansi-bbs and it looks
    a bit better now.

    The prompts are overwriting the first character of the text and things are appearing in weird places on the screen.

    via frotz and mystic
    https://i.imgur.com/zHT99g1.png

    via a regular terminal
    https://imgur.com/8y2CHel.png

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  • From ryan@77:1/128 to Embalmed on Mon Mar 23 16:26:24 2020

    if you want to see what i mean hop on my BBS, go to D- Doors -> %- More Doors, then run $-Adventureland

    Ok, I'll check it out.

    Also, where'd you get the adventureland data files?

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  • From ryan@77:1/128 to Embalmed on Mon Mar 23 16:28:02 2020
    The prompts are overwriting the first character of the text and things
    are appearing in weird places on the screen.

    Interesting. Maybe we should try a live capture of stdout to see what
    specific characters are being passed. Maybe there's some \r\n weirdness happening.

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  • From Embalmed@77:1/133 to ryan on Mon Mar 23 22:39:42 2020
    Also, where'd you get the adventureland data files?
    http://www.msadams.com/downloads/advgames.zip

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  • From Embalmed@77:1/133 to ryan on Mon Mar 23 22:41:24 2020
    Also, where'd you get the adventureland data files?

    Actually I think that last one was wrong i think it came from http://www.ifarchive.org/indexes/if-archive/scott-adams/games/zcode/

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  • From ryan@77:1/128 to Embalmed on Tue Mar 24 00:34:08 2020
    Actually I think that last one was wrong i think it came from http://www.ifarchive.org/indexes/if-archive/scott-adams/games/zcode/

    I still owe your board a call, I'll dial in a few mins. Thanks for the link here btw.

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  • From Embalmed@77:1/133 to ryan on Tue Mar 24 10:31:24 2020
    I still owe your board a call, I'll dial in a few mins. Thanks for the link here btw.
    Thanks for the note about the more doors menu, that apparently has been
    broken for a while and nobody told me :) Should be fixed now, Cheers!

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  • From ryan@77:1/128 to Embalmed on Tue Mar 24 14:58:22 2020
    Hmm, I changed from just TERM=ansi-bbs to export TERM=ansi-bbs and it looks a bit better now.

    Ok, I confirmed on my bbs is looks as expected. Here's my entire script that I'm using to launch the game, which I launch with the 'dd' menu command. The script takes one argument, and that's for the user number.

    -- [snip] --
    #!/bin/bash
    cd /doors/frotz
    export TERM=ansi-bbs
    export LANG=en_US
    [ ! -d /doors/frotz/$1 ] && mkdir /doors/frotz/$1
    stty cols 80 rows 25 && /doors/frotz/frotz -F -R $1 advland.z5
    -- [snip] --

    If that doesn't work, it must be something to do with the ansi-bbs term setting. Did you follow that synchronet wiki page exactly for the termcap?

    You should be able to set the TERM to ansi-bbs in a bash terminal and 'cat'
    an ansi file and I think it'll look right with that TERM set, but I could be wrong.

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  • From Embalmed@77:1/133 to ryan on Wed Mar 25 10:37:22 2020
    If that doesn't work, it must be something to do with the ansi-bbs term setting. Did you follow that synchronet wiki page exactly for the
    termcap?

    Well I think so, but I'll poke around it some more. Interesting. I like
    what you did there on the save directory, I honestly wasn't sure what the
    save game filenames were going to be and if people would clobber each others saves.

    You are on 64 bit linux right, which OS?

    I'm on ubuntu 18.04

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  • From Embalmed@77:1/133 to ryan on Wed Mar 25 11:26:46 2020
    If that doesn't work, it must be something to do with the ansi-bbs term setting. Did you follow that synchronet wiki page exactly for the
    termcap?

    So I just double checked, and when I run tic terminfo nothing happens, the terminfo file is the same as it was when i downloaded it. (I did a diff of
    the two files)

    Maybe this is the problem? Not sure what to do about it though.

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  • From ryan@77:1/128 to Embalmed on Wed Mar 25 11:43:56 2020
    Well I think so, but I'll poke around it some more. Interesting. I like what you did there on the save directory, I honestly wasn't sure what the save game filenames were going to be and if people would clobber each others saves.

    I'm actually going to take another crack at a save game dir in a little bit.
    I want to create a dir per user per game. :)

    You are on 64 bit linux right, which OS?

    I'm on ubuntu 18.04

    Same.

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  • From ryan@77:1/128 to Embalmed on Wed Mar 25 11:44:20 2020
    So I just double checked, and when I run tic terminfo nothing happens,
    the terminfo file is the same as it was when i downloaded it. (I did a diff of the two files)

    I can't remember how I got this all set up honestly. I'll research it later tonight.

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  • From Embalmed@77:1/133 to ryan on Thu Apr 2 01:20:22 2020
    I can't remember how I got this all set up honestly. I'll research it later tonight.
    figure anything out?

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  • From ryan@77:1/128 to Embalmed on Thu Apr 2 01:40:12 2020
    I can't remember how I got this all set up honestly. I'll research it later tonight.
    figure anything out?

    Yeah, it just...works. :/

    I have the ansi-bbs term from the synchronet unix wiki that I've installed,
    and I launch a script to fire up the frotz binary. I have the frotz binary Marisa G compiled and it works fine.

    I also run the game to save stuff in user directories. The script takes an argument of the user number.

    < snip >
    #!/bin/bash
    cd /doors/zork
    export TERM=ansi-bbs
    export LANG=en_us
    [ ! -d /doors/zork/$1 ] && mkdir /doors/zork/$1
    stty cols 80 rows 25 && /doors/zork/frotz -F -R $1 zork1.dat
    < snip >

    Not sure what could be happening on your end. I tested the advland game as
    well and had no problems :(
    Sorry can't be of more help.

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  • From Embalmed@77:1/133 to ryan on Thu Apr 2 23:09:04 2020
    installed, and I launch a script to fire up the frotz binary. I have the frotz binary Marisa G compiled and it works fine.

    wait what? so what version number does your frotzdoor show?

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  • From anthk@77:1/100 to HusTler on Tue Oct 20 08:34:00 2020
    Re: Zork
    By: HusTler to All on Mon Jul 22 2019 10:36 pm

    Not Zork I-III, but I began to play Dungeon (which condenses Zork I-III)
    under Slackware among a dungeon.png map (readable in the framebuffer :D).
    I don't consider it cheating, as the places are discoverable just by travelling, and making a map can be done in a grid paper easily.

    Besides Zork, I like Anchorhead too, albeit that's more recent.
    But having a Stephen King like novel into a text game it's truly
    amazing.
    Unix junkie
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  • From anthk@77:1/100 to Netsurge on Tue Oct 20 08:36:00 2020
    Re: Re: Zork
    By: Netsurge to HusTler on Tue Jul 23 2019 01:32 am

    Just curious. Has anyone in BBS land ever played Zork I II III or beyond?

    Get Frotz too, and at gopher://gopher.661.org/games/zode you have a huge array of new
    games to try. I suggest four:

    - Anchohead
    - Vicious Cycles
    - Slouch over Bedlam
    - Spider and Web

    Those are not so retro, but hey, they will run even on machines from the 80's.

    Unix junkie
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  • From anthk@77:1/100 to jokker on Tue Oct 20 08:40:00 2020
    Re: Re: Zork
    By: jokker to Phoobar on Sat Mar 07 2020 09:31 am


    You can get those at gopher://gopher.661.org/9/if-archive/games/zcode/adamsinform.zip
    You need a z-machine interpreter, several exist at gopher://gopher.661.org/1/if-archive/infocom/interpreters


    Unix junkie
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  • From anthk@77:1/100 to ryan on Tue Oct 20 08:44:00 2020
    Re: Re: Zork
    By: ryan to Embalmed on Tue Mar 24 2020 02:58 pm

    If the ncurses frotz doesn't work, try dfrotz. It's more crude, for sure, but Scott'
    Adam's games aren't every complex to begin with.

    Unix junkie
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