Is it me or does Patrick Stewart look like he is either confused or constipated in the Picard trailer?
I mean...he's getting on in years :/
That said, I'm excited for this. TNG was my favorite era. It defined a
lot of my childhood outlook of the ideal future.
I would like to hear people's thoughts on Picard. I'm a bit of a Star
Trek diehard, so my opinion is tainted at best, hell, I haven't seen a
Star Trek TV series that I didn't enjoy, even Enterprise.
This is why I would like to hear what others thing, especially those
who aren't die hard Trekkies but still enjoy SciFi based shows.
I would like to hear people's thoughts on Picard. I'm a bit of a Star Trek diehard, so my opinion is tainted at best, hell, I haven't seen a Star Trek TV series that I didn't enjoy, even Enterprise.
This is why I would like to hear what others thing, especially those
who aren't die hard Trekkies but still enjoy SciFi based shows.
I would like to hear people's thoughts on Picard. I'm a bit of a Star Trek diehard, so my opinion is tainted at best, hell, I haven't seen a Star Trek TV series that I didn't enjoy, even Enterprise.
I would like to hear people's thoughts on Picard. I'm a bit of a Star
I quite liked STTNG back in the day (not all of it but a episode here
and there) and I must say I really like Picard. I think I like it
because it focuses most on Picard himself and also that's based on earth (so far at least) and that it m ixes scifi with "reality".
I caved in and shelled out for the CBS All Access subscription. It's interesting IMO because I dug TNG growing up, and there's some intersectionalism there (characters in common being a big one). That
said, it's taking a while to feel like Star Trek. We're several episodes in and we just got into space travel. The backstory and lore doesn't feel super...Picard-like.
Saw the pilot & enjoyed it very much. Even though I have the last several episodes...haven't had a chance to watch them yet because of my funky
work schedule. Am hoping with the next 2 days off after working almost 2 weeks straight that I can kick back to enjoy the last several episodes.
Discovery was very good, so i hope that Picard will also be a good scifi series.
Me too. Haven't seen it yet. I've been told it sucks compared to TNG.
I quite liked STTNG back in the day (not all of it but a episode here
and there) and I must say I really like Picard. I think I like it
because it focuses most on Picard himself and also that's based on earth
(so far at least) and that it m ixes scifi with "reality".
TNG actually turned be on to the Trek world back in the early 90s. I
agree,
for the most part, episodes were well written. With the exception on a
few,
including ones written by Ronald D Moore who funny enough went on to
reboot
Battlestar Galactic and really turned his writing around.
I enjoyed STTNG more and more as the series went on. It got a bit harder towards the later seasons and I also enjoyed most of the movies including
The fact that it isn't traditionally a Trek based series is what I enjoy the most about it. It has more of a cinematic feel to it, one long ass movie.
I enjoyed STTNG more and more as the series went on. It got a bit harder towards the later seasons and I also enjoyed most of the movies
including First Contact and the one where Picard turned into a Borg for
a while (I think what was a mov ie anyway.. can't remember).
This is going to be a weird gripe, but...it's almost a bit too action oriented. Action is great, but it's sometimes a replacement for clever writing. I'm on the fence about it with Picard. We'll see how things go. But there are a lot of jump-instances of action. I recall in TNG when
they fight the Borg it's edge of your seat suspense, but not jump in
your seat action sequences...I prefer the former, as it pertains to star trek.
I am interested to see where they head with the new season of Discovery. Jumping forward in the timeline should give them creative freedom to go (no pun intended) where no one has gone before.
Coming from a guy who make a career of being shot at, that is saying something!
I do have to admit, I find it a bit of a slow start, but by the middle of episode three, things start to get into gear.
I second this. TNG was sort of "meh" in the first season but things
really picked up after season 3 in my opinion.
I think it has all ready gone, where no other Start Trek series has gone :) It was criticized bad, about being so "dark" comparing with the other ST series... but it was exactly why i really liked it :)
I think it has all ready gone, where no other Start Trek series has gone :) It was criticized bad, about being so "dark" comparing with the other ST series... but it was exactly why i really liked it :)
Hehe. Eh, I don't do that any more :P Nowadays it's the cozy silicon valley life.
Thank you & everyone else for not putting spoilers in the base. Got Thom Hartmann on right now...but gonna put on the last 2 episodes of Picard & Doctor Who on the Chromecast. Being a stocker in retail wears me down by the time I get off...so attempt to watch my favorite shows...but end up asleep in my office from the exhaustion.
I am also enjoying the darker side of the latest Dr. Who series. Another breath of fresh air.
P.S., personally, I will announce a spoiler before I actually get into
it.
;) Have had all day off & catching up on all the shows...including Call the Midwife. For that matter...Outlander starts this weekend & will be getting all 3 of them Sunday night.
My wife is hooked on Call the Midwife. It keeps her happy.
Just finished up the last 3 episodes of Midwife & onto Harley Quinn.
Been so nice watching my favs & relaxing. Feel almost like a new person...but still fat & bald. ;)
The latest Crisis on Infinite earths crossover was fabulous. Most of the shows used all of their episodes from the season to lead up to the big crossover. We need to see more of that IMO.
I've had co-workers tell me exactly the same thing. Have all the series
on my media server...so hope to catch up soon what I've been missing.
It is a lot to digest but they writers do a great job making each series and each episode feel like a comic book. You get your usual creature of the week in each episode but there is also one season long arc that ties all of the shows together. Totally work the time IMO.
Does help to have all the shows under one umbrella to be able to do
this.
Am caught up on Picard & I have to say that each episode is getting
better & better. Another show I've heard about & am binging right now on BritBox is Inside No 9. It's an anthology series from the UK which is in it's 5th season. Love these types of shows...especially this one with a real sharp edge of black humor.
It's even better when all the IP is owned by one company, DC in this
case. Without spoiling anything, there are some crazy cameos in the crossover even that nobody saw coming.
I'll add it to the list. I am always looking for something new to check out. I just watched the Netflix adaptation of Locke & Key which is one
of my favorite comic book series, I highly recommend it. It was shot
HOT DOG! Will head over to my source & get it. Don't have Netflix anymore...but doesn't stop me from seeing stuff I want like this. Thanks for the recommendation.
If you enjoy comic book adaptations, October Faction also produced by Netflix is pretty good. It isn't as dark or moody as the comic, but the story line is the same.
Got thru the episode of Watchmen where she's calling Mars. Just gotta
find time to get thru the other 4 episodes. Liked that series a lot & looking for more.
How the fuck did I forget the Watchmen. It has been a long time since a series was released that had me watering at the mouth for more, not
since the BSG reboot happened. This is easily one of the best written shows ever.
Lots of folks hated it because it left the original material. Not me.
Once they left the source material behind & looking at an alternate future...got me extremely intrigued to learn more. Add to that the writing...made this a feast for the mind.
Lots of folks hated it because it left the original material. Not me.Exactly. We don't need another remake, been done, a few times. The storyline is precisely what would have happened down the time stream.
Part of what shocked me with the 1st episode was the ending with the police chief gone "missing". Was not expecting something so raw...even
in this day/age...even though what I'm reading...it's happening more & more.
police chief gone "missing". Was not expecting something so raw...eve in this day/age...even though what I'm reading...it's happening more more.Don Johnson has become that actor that gets better with age. He played that part perfectly. It was a great twist that I don't think anyone saw coming.
Couldn't place the face at first...so off to IMDB I went. Hated that he was only in the pilot. Wanted to see more of that character. Hoping Monday/Tuesday to watch the last 4 episodes.
Miami Vice in the 80s, that's what made him famous. As a kid I was glued to the TV every time it was on. I even asked for a pet crocodile. Alas, that never panned out.
BTW, I just netmailed you your AmigaNet info.
HOT DOG! Am coming down with something...so am going to take tomorrow
off to try not to end up with the flu from riding in a bad rain storm
this evening.
HOT DOG! Am coming down with something...so am going to take tomorrow off to try not to end up with the flu from riding in a bad rain storm this evening.It will give you something to do tomorrow then. Just remember to sanitize your outbound mail packets, you don't want to make everyone in the
network sick.
Had a customer last night tell me that she stopped being a vet asst to work for a German company doing dialysis. Her husband needs medical & she mentioned she's been treated better by the German company than any American company she has ever worked for. Glad my manager didn't hear me use the word "union" when I was talking to her.
medical care you get medical care. The only cost we complain about if how much parking is at the hospital, lol.
I worked in the parking lots of a hospital system when I was much
younger. Holy fuck do people ever complain. Don't ever let Maritimers
tell you they're the nic est, friendliest, kindest people on Earth, no matter how much they like to jerk themselves off over that reputation.
The abuse I took at that job was unreal.
I had getting into politics in general, especially on echomail as we are all here to have fun and respect each other but I never understood why
the US didn't go for universal health care like we have in Canada.
I worked in the parking lots of a hospital system when I was much
younger. Holy fuck do people ever complain.
shouldn't complain about it period. You don't like it, park on the
street or take transit to your appointment.
I am a progressive & wish your PM was what the orange idiot isn't and never will be...along with those who follow it. At least Trudeau can
talk in complete sentences & sounds like he can read a book at more a
3rd grade level.
I do have to admit, watching US political coverage has become the best comed on TV. "He didn't just do/say that did he", no Fucking way, this is hilarious. Sad, but hilarious.
I currently work in retail and not only do they complain...but if you don't bend over...hold both cheeks in each hand & sing to them while you kiss their arse...they complain about that. Was working on a Sunday afternoon when a customer started screaming at me while I was at the register because the PC they use for a register is an AS-400 & not Windows/OS/2-based & wouldn't give him dual screens to see what the computer did when I totaled out his ticket. My immediate boss had to pull me away to keep me from killing him & shuttled him out of the store after he paid.
But I do not believe Trump is necessarily all to blame for this; the media has >largely created the situation by showering him with almost unprecedented >amounts of attention. Dare I say, they created this mess, all for clicks and >ratings. I believe the media have largely fucked the people over, not Trump.
I too am progressive, very left, socialist if you will. Personally I
think our current PM is more right leaning than left. Yet when I look at the political system in your country, he would be considered a crazy lefty.
I do have to admit, watching US political coverage has become the best comedy on TV. "He didn't just do/say that did he", no Fucking way, this
is hilarious. Sad, but hilarious.
I'm hesitant to jump into these things because I could be considered to
be a right-wing conservative... but I think I'm more classical-liberal
or individualist. Thankfully this isn't Fidonet or I would be flayed
I agree that US politics have become such a sideshow that future presidents may be judged on their ability to produce soundbites rather than real actual experience or proposals to help people.
But I do not believe Trump is necessarily all to blame for this; the
media has largely created the situation by showering him with almost unprecedented amounts of attention. Dare I say, they created this mess, all for clicks and ratings. I believe the media have largely fucked the people over, not Trump.
I currently work in retail and not only do they complain...but if you do bend over...hold both cheeks in each hand & sing to them while you kiss arse...they complain about that. Was working on a Sunday afternoon when
(2) I am pretty sure an AS-400 could do that if someone wanted it to (I would guess they place you work for does not).
Learned to keep my mouth shut around certain people at work. Others...we talk freely & laugh about all the stuff. Very true about the more right leaning...especially when you consider the two who went out into
Manitoba & met their final judgment before the RCMP found what they consider are them. The thing which makes me laugh the worst is who's
going to be head of the conservatives...especially after the last election. Now...if some of these idiots down here would tell the orange idiot the truth & had the balls to face it...things might be better here.
That's way different than your current "fundamentalist conservative". It means you have/will read/understand about what is going on. Would love
to sit down & have a drink to discuss what's going on. Not reading/understanding anything but the most simplest ideas drives me up the wall.
all the back chatter. I think they learned their lesson and won't elect anyone too far right (if there is even such a thing). If they want to crack anything that isn't northern Ontario or Alberta, they need to tone down some of their policies. It will be an interesting race.
He is more a small c conservative, someone who will support polices that make sense and don't just blindly follow like sheep. Even though he is a conservative, I like him never-the-less. Like the Odd Couple.
Totally agree!!! I could listen and enjoy his company...compared to some of the folks who call themselves conservatives here in Oregon. He and those like him aren't bat-shit-crazy like the breeds we have in the US.
We need many more just like him here & the US would be a much better place.
But I do not believe Trump is necessarily all to blame for this; the media >largely created the situation by showering him with almost unprecedented >amounts of attention. Dare I say, they created this mess, all for clicks a >ratings. I believe the media have largely fucked the people over, not Trum
IMHO, that bit started before Trump even started running for President.
Really, they showered the Clintons with what was probably then unprecidented attention also... not initially positive, but eventually so, until he got caught with his pants down in the oval office. I feel like
That's way different than your current "fundamentalist conservative". It means you have/will read/understand about what is going on. Would love to si down & have a drink to discuss what's going on. Not reading/understanding anything but the most simplest ideas drives me up the wall.
We need many more just like him here & the US would be a much better place.Alright now we need to stop. His head is getting so big that he can no longer fit in this echo.
IMHO, that bit started before Trump even started running for President. They showered Obama with unprecidented attention also (albeit of a more positive manner, usually). Obama was also the first President to Tweet about things that were not really the business of his office. Trump has just amplified that to a whole new level.
Really, they showered the Clintons with what was probably then unprecidented attention also... not initially positive, but eventually
so, until he got caught with his pants down in the oval office. I feel like the press has enjoyed a return of more "celebrity" like Presidents such as Obama and Trump. They hated the Bushes because they were not entertaining enough.
There was total silence and no doubt name-calling behind my back when I very politely suggested that instead of insulting the guy, why not take the time to study and understand why half of Americans voted for him,
what was his appeal, how did he manage to resonate so effectively with
so many people.
I try to look at both-sides before forming an opinion. I work with some people who are on the "Trump is an idiot" bandwagon. Its exhausting. I'm Canadian, the banter is about someone who is not even our president yet its almost as if he has single-handedly killed your dog or drank the
last beer in the fridge.
There was total silence and no doubt name-calling behind my back when I very politely suggested that instead of insulting the guy, why not take the time to study and understand why half of Americans voted for him,
what was his appeal, how did he manage to resonate so effectively with
so many people.
I said Trump is many things but NOT an idiot. It takes a bold, motivated, carefully-strategic and calculated person to be sitting in that white house. Even that freaking hairdo and orange tan is a deliberate
provoking act.
There is also a saying which I believe is true. People enjoy having someone to love. But people love having someone to hate.
The power of right
getting the presidential medal of whatever...it's clearly not because anyone who voted for him is particularly cerebral.
On 18 Feb 20 02:11:52, Netsurge said the following to Phoobar:
I do have to admit, watching US political coverage has become the best comed
on TV. "He didn't just do/say that did he", no Fucking way, this is N>> hilarious. Sad, but hilarious.
I'm hesitant to jump into these things because I could be considered
to be a
right-wing conservative... but I think I'm more classical-liberal or individualist. Thankfully this isn't Fidonet or I would be flayed
alive.
I agree that US politics have become such a sideshow that future
presidents
may be judged on their ability to produce soundbites rather than real actual
experience or proposals to help people.
But I do not believe Trump is necessarily all to blame for this; the
media has
largely created the situation by showering him with almost
unprecedented
amounts of attention. Dare I say, they created this mess, all for
clicks and
ratings. I believe the media have largely fucked the people over, not Trump.
Yes... its "Sci-fi" to live in a world with a real estate Bulworth
hustler as
president. But hustlers, celebrity CEO's or figureheads that produce ratings
and clickbait may be the only ones electable going forward. Not
someone with
actual political experience or a true honest desire to unite the
country.
Now I, for one, would vote for the giant asteroid. Or... I for one,
would
welcome our supreme alien overlords. I will remind them that as a
competent
network administrator, I could be most useful with cataloging the population
into relational databases for slave labour assignment.
Was reading on Daily Kos the other day that Limbaugh has lung cancer. He is going to be getting his & when he's gone...I see the whole wrong-wing media go into a tail spin. Hopefully in my lifetime...will see the likes of those like Limbaugh maybe only played on low power AM...if there or going to the same corners the neo-Nazi's are into how.
Roma (I believe that's the company up there) sells the same tools my company does to be able to cut part of the door jam out for that head to fit. ;)
I agree in principle but tweeting is rather new. I don't think it's fair to use "use of twitter among presidents" as any sort of metric aside
from how Trump has been using it to inform his own staff of his foreign policy decisions.
When I look at the way he talks/acts and formulates ideas. He is an idiot...but he does have some people who are way smarter than him around him. If only he would listen to them rather than fire them or make fun of them...people like myself wouldn't think he's such an idiot. Couldn't stand Bush Jr...but the 1 thing I loved about him was extending DST out longer.
media go into a tail spin. Hopefully in my lifetime...will see the li of those like Limbaugh maybe only played on low power AM...if there o going to the same corners the neo-Nazi's are into how.I can't believe Trump thinks Limbaugh is on par with someone like Rosa Parks. He's just so detached from reality. And all it does is further legitimize far right conspiracy theorists.
Rona was purchased by Lowes who the promptly closed half of the Lowes and Ronas in Canada.
I have a close friend who lives in Pittsburgh and is a staunch
Republican who says "Who would have thunk we would be missing George W!"
Yep...doing the same thing here in the US. Now...if a union were to come in & clean things up...would be a much better place to work without all the BS I see on a daily basis.
Oh I know! They treated Obama like he was freaking JFK.
IMHO, that bit started before Trump even started running for President. They showered Obama with unprecidented attention also (albeit of a more positive manner, usually). Obama was also the first President to Tweet about things that were not really the business of his office. Trump has just amplified that to a whole new level.
I agree in principle but tweeting is rather new. I don't think it's fair to use "use of twitter among presidents" as any sort of metric aside from how Trump has been using it to inform his own staff of his foreign policy decisions.
right (if there is even such a thing). If they want to crack anything that isn't northern Ontario or Alberta, they need to tone down some of their policies. It will be an interesting race.
People vote for him because he panders, he bullies, people are attracted to that, tribalism is a thing, and the conservative party in the USA has become the "We like to make fun of liberals" party. The power of right wing propaganda in the USA with things like Fox News and Rush Limbaugh getting the presidential medal of whatever...it's clearly not because anyone who voted for him is particularly cerebral.
them...people like myself wouldn't think he's such an idiot. Couldn't stand Bush Jr...but the 1 thing I loved about him was extending DST out longer.
And the Democratic Party has not become a "we like to make fun of conservatives" party, or is "basket of deplorables" and all of the other things said to make conservatives sound stupid and horrible something
that was actually said in seriousness?
Are Manitoba and Saskatchewan much different politically than Northern Ontario? I sort of figured that once you got NW of Toronto, or East of Vancouver, that Canada was sort of like the States... more conservative
in the middle, fly-over part.
Yep...doing the same thing here in the US. Now...if a union were to c in & clean things up...would be a much better place to work without a the BS I see on a daily basis.I could have an organizer there real quick.
Bush Jr...but the 1 thing I loved about him was extending DST out longerThat is the 1st thing I would name for not liking about him. :)
Like many companies...they do everything they can do to keep that from happening. Worked in way too many companies which spend tons of money to keep their employees from unionizing. Good thing for Oregon...it's not a right-to-"work" state...so the BS like in Idaho & other right-to-die states don't happen.
Like many companies...they do everything they can do to keep that fro happening. Worked in way too many companies which spend tons of money keep their employees from unionizing. Good thing for Oregon...it's noI did some work in a southern state that is a right to work state. We spend more dues than we get in just trying to keep members paying, it's crazy. They passed the law just to keep us busy off in a corner.
Oh yeah. Seems like all of the state flags for these hell holes should have a whip & other torture weapons on them for truth in advertising.
Hillary said that and everyone facepalmed. Trump is the figurehead of a political movement informed only by "owning the libtards." These two things are not on equal footing.
For the most part yes, but "Canadian Conservative" although right of center, is a far cry from the right wing American factions like the tea party. They would be more like right leaning democrats. For example, the conservative party of Canada supports same sex marriage and a womans right to choose. Not exactly Republican supported policies.
In that respect...yep. On the other hand...just wish they would have kept DST >active year round. One thing I liked about Arizona was no DST.
I visited Canada back in 2017. Made a few friends on the way. One called himself a "liberal" and a "socialist." Similar to your comparison of "Canadian Conservative" vs. US ones, I would also say that your liberals are a lot easier to have unheated discussions with than ours. They are apparently much more libertarian than ours... that is a dirty word to most of ours, but it was one word we both used to describe ourselves. We actually found we had a lot in common. About the only things we seemed to disagree on, but not disagreeably so, was on firearms.
If you are old enough to remember Bill's first campaign, and all of the things that Hillary and their friend James Carville said about non-Democrats (and sometimes Southern Democrats), I do believe you would realize they are on quite equal footing.
Hillary is just barely more diplomatic than Trump, and I think we'd both agree he is not a good yardstick for measuring diplomacy.
Some of the smaller towns, well, let's just say it is like stepping into the past, guy sitting in the corner playing a banjo and all.
In that respect...yep. On the other hand...just wish they would have kept >active year round. One thing I liked about Arizona was no DST.That was one thing I loved about Indiana, too, until they joined DST with the rest of us. The Sun went down when it should in the Summer. :)
As long as you had forks to go around for everyone to be able to eat
their applesauce you would be safe. ;)
As someone who was clearly an outsider to them I felt far from safe. I felt like I was in some Stephen King novel where everyone in a small
town was trying to keep a horrible secret from the outside world. I was there for two weeks and I swear, everytime I left my motel room to get some food or take a walk either the Sheriff or one of his Deputies was within watching distance. Creepy ass shit.
The thing is, I enjoy sometimes having discusions with people who are the polar opposite of my political beliefs. It makes for an interesting discussion.
Canadian politics does focus sometimes on "gun control" which I feel is the most absurd failed policy right along with the "war on the drugs". That and we have our share of a prime minister who approves handing 10 million to a convicted terrorist or the recent schmoozing with Iran given what happened.
Respectfully, I'm not interested in bringing up something, say, Bush Sr. did to justify some goofy thing a democrat does in 2020.
Hillary was former Secretary of State during an era where we had excellent diplomatic ties with other nations. I can't take this comment seriously. She's flawed and I wasn't a big fan of her, but this is nonsense.
1 thing...if you ever needed a date...you know you'd be dating a married woman whose husband was her brother.
I like it, too, but you cannot really do that in the states much any more because it will almost always turn into an argument.
We have our share of people who believe we are wrong because we are not also schmoozing with Iran. :)
Respectfully, I'm not interested in bringing up something, say, Bush Sr. to justify some goofy thing a democrat does in 2020.
I did not mention anything that Bush did. I did not even mention his name. I mentioned things Hillary said and did... the same person that we were discussing, whether it be 1992, 2008, 2016, or 2020. She might be living proof that, in 28 years, a turd can be slightly polished, but
only slightly.
Hillary was former Secretary of State during an era where we had excelle diplomatic ties with other nations. I can't take this comment seriously. She's flawed and I wasn't a big fan of her, but this is nonsense.
No it really is not. Here is a link to an article which details the results of some of her excellent diplomatic skills during her term as
SOS. It is from the Huffington Post, which is not a known conservative newspaper or as any fan of Donald Trump.
https://tinyurl.com/yb7cxbf3
I agree. And the problem with political discussions in general is that a lot of people hold and defend opinions while being rather uninformed
just for the sake of aligning with their tribe. And this happens from
all sides :/
father was the mayor of Etobicoke
Wow, that's a weird name. How do you pronounce it?
https://twitter.com/rebeccatee/status/1207640403446501376
The married woman bit can happen in even the larger towns. They seem to be taught that getting married and having kids ASAP is more important
than finding someone you are happy with first.
That link goes to google maps to some point in Knoxville, TN.
Anyway I'm rather well versed on international affairs and diplomacy, and don't think a single article written by any corporate media news agency generating income from mouse clicks to be a source of absolute truth here. Like I said, she was flawed. I didn't like her and am glad she didn't get to hold the title "First Female US President." But our country's diplomatic position in the world was strongest when Obama was president and she was SOS than at any other time other than immediately following 9/11 when every country had our back as a knee jerk and not for any real diplomatic reason.
Seen this happen WAY too many times in the Bible Noose. Never had kids...but it can/does happen with men as well. I could give Gibbons a run for his money if I wrote my diary on how not to find a wife. ;)
We have our share of people who believe we are wrong because we are not also schmoozing with Iran. :)
Ugh...I'm reluctant to even go there. Let's just say without getting into it that I don't think you and I will agree on this. :)
it can/does happen with men as well. I could give Gibbons a run for his if I wrote my diary on how not to find a wife. ;)Who is Gibbons, or do you mean the apes? :)
She couldn't deal with North Korea without name calling. She didn't deal with Lybia or the Middle East as a whole too well. She did not handled Russia or Syria at all. She did do a great job giving US jobs to China,
so I am sure they liked her more than anyone since. She did a good job kissing most of Europe's collective hind quarters, but that is not what
an SOS is for.
The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire is a six-volume work by the English historian Edward Gibbon. It traces Western civilization from the height of the Roman Empire to the fall of Byzantium. Volume I was published in 1776 and went through six printings.
At least 1 thing...if it were the apes & humans can't talk...my mouth wouldn't get me into trouble. ;)
At least 1 thing...if it were the apes & humans can't talk...my mouth wouldn't get me into trouble. ;)LOL, mine, either... nor would my typing on message boards! :D
Then on the other hand...if we keep it up for at least 1000 years...we might be able to rewrite Planet of the Apes rather than Shakespeare. ;)
be able to rewrite Planet of the Apes rather than Shakespeare. ;)ROTFLOL! Thanks, I needed that. :)
I have become a fan of the grittiness that has become the Star Trek universe. The swearing and infallible characters has made Starfleet
seem a bit more real.
Call me old fashioned but the thing I loved about the original TNG was that they were explorers/pioneers and trouble always found them. ThisYou felt danger in TNG for the main characters? Like the only person who
show has them seeking out trouble with barely a crew at all and I
haven't felt any sense of danger that a main character could be killed off.
You felt danger in TNG for the main characters? Like the only person who ever died was Tasha Yar and that was in the first season.
Star trek has never, to me, felt like anyone was ever about to die,
unless they were a red shirt who was just introduced in todays episode.
You felt danger in TNG for the main characters? Like the only person who ever died was Tasha Yar and that was in the first season.
I agree with both of you, somehow. One hand to Ryan's point, it always seemed like they were stumbling into some new, unknown, and potentially dangerous situation. On the other hand, you're right, death on the Enterprise was rare and pretty much only happened to unknowns, and
injury was always temporary if it happened at all. Some grim-dark take
on Star Trek could focus on the huge amounts of "collateral damage" that goes by only barely mentioned, but TNG is far from that show.
Yet Picard seems like anything is a possibility. The swearing, drinking and addiction issues brings some realness to the franchise.I agree. I am enjoying Picard but I will admit I'm a few episodes behind.
I do want to see some Red Shirt death pr0n though.
Yet Picard seems like anything is a possibility. The swearing, drinki and addiction issues brings some realness to the franchise.I agree. I am enjoying Picard but I will admit I'm a few episodes
behind. TNG is/was great, but as with most of the earlier star treks to
me the people were fairly one dimensional.
Picard has the feel of Discovery to me and I generally liked that show
as well. It took a bit to get into Discovery because the feel was so different, but I think they did an excellent job and if you haven't watched it give it a chance. Definitely think the characters felt more 'real' and fleshed out.
a lot of the stuff people complained about was slowly improved as S1
went on, and even moreso in S2 (including the aforementioned Klingons.) Looking forward to the next season!
I agree. I am enjoying Picard but I will admit I'm a few episodes
behind. TNG is/was great, but as with most of the earlier star treks to
me the people were fairly one dimensional.
Picard has the feel of Discovery to me and I generally liked that show
as well. It took a bit to get into Discovery because the feel was so different, but I think they did an excellent job and if you haven't watched it give it a chance. Definitely think the characters felt more 'real' and fleshed out.
Now Picard just feels realer. Same vision with a hint of humanity. Broken people trying to do right.
Agree 100%. Picard even mentioned something about everyone having more baggage than anyone of the original crew.
Baggage=Human.
Don't lynch me :P I still love TNG.
And then I stopped worrying about stupid details and just enjoyed the
show they laid out for us.
And...the show has NOT aged well. The episodic style and throwaway
nature of each episode as a recurrence of the same formulaic themes
really feels cheap nowadays. Almost lazy.
I rewatched it all a couple of years back and strongly agree. The later shows improved on this a little with a tighter overarching narrative - hell, Voyager seemed to be created around combining the two concepts. Discovery (and from what I know, Picard) seem to be diving fully into
the serialized narrative style that has gotten so popular, but a lot of fans hate that since its such a departure. I'm somewhere in between, but having a better narrative and less (or no) throwaway episodes is more appealing to me.
I'd love to see something in the exploratory spirit of TNG but with the overarching serialized narrative over several seasons with massive character arcs. That would be idea, for me.
Maybe I should give Voyager a shot?
Maybe I should give Voyager a shot?
Voyager is *much* closer to episodic than a serial, but its overarching plot is stronger than TNGs, as it involves them being stuck in the Delta Quadrant, trying to get back home, and that's always a factor in every decision that gets made, and really, the whole crew's survival (though
in the spirit of TNG, it's not anywhere as desperate as it could be from that description, heh.)
DS9 is my favorite. The first time that Star Trek got gritty and dark. Tension, war, deaths and deception. Was a pretty big shock to see some of those story lines after watching TNG.
On 03-20-20 22:50, ryan wrote to jack phlash <=-
Well, turns out I'm stuck at home for the next few months like all of
you fine people, so perhaps it's time to gamble on a new show.
Plus, I'm paying for fucking CBS so I can watch Picard. lol.
On 03-20-20 22:50, ryan wrote to Netsurge <=-
DS9 is my favorite. The first time that Star Trek got gritty and dark. Tension, war, deaths and deception. Was a pretty big shock to see some of those story lines after watching TNG.
I remember DS9 as a kid and I remember not liking it, finding it
actually a bit creepy. This would probably have some appeal at this
point.
Plus, I'm paying for fucking CBS so I can watch Picard. lol.
I remember DS9 as a kid and I remember not liking it, finding it
actually a bit creepy. This would probably have some appeal at this
point.
Plus, I'm paying for fucking CBS so I can watch Picard. lol.
I remember DS9 as a kid and I remember not liking it, finding it
actually a bit creepy. This would probably have some appeal at this
point.
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