For fans of Back To The Future: The Back To The Future trilogy is being released in 4K on October 20:
https://bit.ly/32ZaDv0

Full URL: https://www.backtothefuture.com/news/2020/7/27/back-to-the-future-the-ultimate- trilogy-heads-to-4k-ultra-hd-blu-ray-and-dvd

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Re: Back To The Future 4K coming October 20, 2020
By: Nightfox to All on Mon Jul 27 2020 10:34 pm

For fans of Back To The Future: The Back To The Future trilogy is being released in 4K on October 20:
https://bit.ly/32ZaDv0

Full URL: https://www.backtothefuture.com/news/2020/7/27/back-to-the-future-the-ultimate-
trilogy-heads-to-4k-ultra-hd-blu-ray-and-dvd

Nightfox

Thanks for the heads up.

I really respect the IP owners for just doing remasters and re-releases instead of remakes, prequels and
sequels that trash the original concept.


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Re: Back To The Future 4K coming October 20, 2020
By: Arelor to Nightfox on Tue Jul 28 2020 06:09 pm

Thanks for the heads up.

I really respect the IP owners for just doing remasters and re-releases instead of remakes, prequels and sequels that trash the original concept.

I don't mind sequels. Sometimes a sequel can be pretty good.

I've heard some 4K releases are just upscales of the 1080 version. Upscaling technology is improving (there is even AI software that can fill in details when upscaling video), but hopefully this Back To The Future 4K release will be a true re-scan and remaster in 4K rather than an upscale.

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Re: Back To The Future 4K coming October 20, 2020
By: Nightfox to Arelor on Tue Jul 28 2020 10:51 pm

Re: Back To The Future 4K coming October 20, 2020
By: Arelor to Nightfox on Tue Jul 28 2020 06:09 pm

Thanks for the heads up.

I really respect the IP owners for just doing remasters and re-releases instea
of remakes, prequels and sequels that trash the original concept.

I don't mind sequels. Sometimes a sequel can be pretty good.

I've heard some 4K releases are just upscales of the 1080 version. Upscaling
technology is improving (there is even AI software that can fill in details when
upscaling video), but hopefully this Back To The Future 4K release will be a true
re-scan and remaster in 4K rather than an upscale.

Nightfox

I agree that sequels can be good, but they often screw it up.

I think part of the problem is the success of the original rested on some cool concept
of idea.... once the concept or idea is used up in the first, it is not new anymore
for the second film, and the film needs something else to stand on its own. And what
film makers end up doing is not providing that "something else".

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Re: Back To The Future 4K coming October 20, 2020
By: Arelor to Nightfox on Wed Jul 29 2020 06:34 am

I agree that sequels can be good, but they often screw it up.

I think part of the problem is the success of the original rested on some cool concept of idea.... once the concept or idea is used up in the first, it is not new anymore for the second film, and the film needs something else to stand on its own. And what film makers end up doing is not providing that "something else".

Yeah, I think there would have to be more of a story that can be told with a sequel in order to make it good without relying too much on just re-using the original concept.

Speaking of sequels, one movie I'm looking forward to is the 3rd Bill & Ted movie that's due out later this year (Bill & Ted Face the Music). I liked the first 2 movies (the first one is my favorite). I am a little skeptical on how good it could be 28 or so years after the previous movie, but I'm just going to try to enjoy it without any expecations.

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Re: Back To The Future 4K coming October 20, 2020
By: Nightfox to Arelor on Wed Jul 29 2020 09:44 am

Re: Back To The Future 4K coming October 20, 2020
By: Arelor to Nightfox on Wed Jul 29 2020 06:34 am

I agree that sequels can be good, but they often screw it up.

I think part of the problem is the success of the original rested on some cool
concept of idea.... once the concept or idea is used up in the first, it is no
new anymore for the second film, and the film needs something else to stand on
its own. And what film makers end up doing is not providing that "something
else".

Yeah, I think there would have to be more of a story that can be told with a sequel
order to make it good without relying too much on just re-using the original concep

Speaking of sequels, one movie I'm looking forward to is the 3rd Bill & Ted movie
that's due out later this year (Bill & Ted Face the Music). I liked the first 2
movies (the first one is my favorite). I am a little skeptical on how good it coul
be 28 or so years after the previous movie, but I'm just going to try to enjoy it
without any expecations.

Nightfox

I don't know who Bill & Ted are.

I am so disappointed at Hollyood as of late that the only films I am looking forward
are the black and white horror and mystery classics I have waiting for me in a bunch
of DVD packs.

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Re: Back To The Future 4K coming October 20, 2020
By: Arelor to Nightfox on Wed Jul 29 2020 01:27 pm

I don't know who Bill & Ted are.

What?? :P Have you never heard of Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_%26_Ted's_Excellent_Adventure

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I am so disappointed at Hollyood as of late that the only films I am looking f
ward
are the black and white horror and mystery classics I have waiting for me in a
unch
of DVD packs.

Back over the Winter, I recorded many old classics (some silent) on my DVR
from the Tuner Classic Movie station here in the USA. I watched most of
them over the colder months but still have a few left over to watch over
the early days of the lockdown. Some I had seen multiple times before, but many were new to me. I enjoyed most all of them.


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Re: Back To The Future 4K coming October 20, 2020
By: Nightfox to Arelor on Wed Jul 29 2020 12:26 pm

Re: Back To The Future 4K coming October 20, 2020
By: Arelor to Nightfox on Wed Jul 29 2020 01:27 pm

I don't know who Bill & Ted are.

What?? :P Have you never heard of Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_%26_Ted's_Excellent_Adventure

Nightfox

Never.

Must be because I am an ignorant Spaniard.

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Re: Back To The Future 4K com
By: Dumas Walker to ARELOR on Wed Jul 29 2020 04:30 pm

I am so disappointed at Hollyood as of late that the only films I am looking f
ward
are the black and white horror and mystery classics I have waiting for me in a
unch
of DVD packs.

Back over the Winter, I recorded many old classics (some silent) on my DVR from the Tuner Classic Movie station here in the USA. I watched most of them over the colder months but still have a few left over to watch over
the early days of the lockdown. Some I had seen multiple times before, but many were new to me. I
enjoyed most all of them.

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I got started when somebody starteed uploading Buster Keaton's and Roscoe's silent classics to some warez
site in a darknet. It was a total eye opener. Some silent movies achieved so much with so little
resources by today's standards.

Heck, best horror scenes I have seen belong to black and white media. No gore or blood effects. Just
actors that were good, a plot and scenography.

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Re: Back To The Future 4K coming October 20, 2020
By: Arelor to Nightfox on Wed Jul 29 2020 06:03 pm

What?? :P Have you never heard of Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_%26_Ted's_Excellent_Adventure

Must be because I am an ignorant Spaniard.

I suppose perhaps the movie was never marketed/shown in Spain and perhaps never translated to Spanish.

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Heck, best horror scenes I have seen belong to black and white media. No gore
blood effects. Just
actors that were good, a plot and scenography.

Agreed! Two of my favorites in that genre, and silent, are "The Cabinet of
Dr. Caligari" and "Nosferatu."


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Re: Back To The Future 4K com
By: Dumas Walker to ARELOR on Thu Jul 30 2020 05:14 pm

Heck, best horror scenes I have seen belong to black and white media. No gore
blood effects. Just
actors that were good, a plot and scenography.

Agreed! Two of my favorites in that genre, and silent, are "The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari" and "Nosferatu."

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Nosferatu is freaking awesome.

The actor behind Nosferatu looked like a vampire in real life. Great choice, they made
with him. And the part where Nosferatu is watching the girl across the street from the
window was so damn cool imo.

I think one of the best horror flicks I have seen was one from a Boris Karloff TV
series. There was a scene in which a dude was trying to guess his way through an
underground sewer labyrinth. He reached a juntion, looked at a map and decided which
path to take. He disappears in the darkness. Them from the other path in the same
juntion appears a vampire in a sinister cape, looks at the camera, and follows the
herro into the black. The look it directed towards the camera was soul freezing. That
scene alone was more chilling that half a dozen modern Hollywood horror movies.

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Agreed! Two of my favorites in that genre, and silent, are "The Cabine Dr. Caligari" and "Nosferatu."

Nosferatu is freaking awesome.

Both of these are fantastic. On the other hand...one of the best I ever saw
was one that TCM showed & a friend bought me the DVD of. Am talking about "The Golem" from 1920 based on a Hebrew legend. Don't get me wrong...it was
Germany in the 20's...so tons of stereotyping.

Another one which is almost laughable is "Hexen". Believe it's from 1922 & looks at witches/witchcraft through the ages.

Goes without saying that we need to include "Metropolis" in there. Even have
a copy that was done in the 80's with music from the era. On the other hand...check out "3 Penny Opera" in German with Peter Lorre.

It's kind of fascinating when you consider what Germany was doing in
cinema during this era...compared to the US.

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Re: Re: Back To The Future 4K com
By: Phoobar to Arelor on Thu Jul 30 2020 07:29 pm

Agreed! Two of my favorites in that genre, and silent, are "The Cabine Dr.
Caligari" and "Nosferatu."

Nosferatu is freaking awesome.

Both of these are fantastic. On the other hand...one of the best I ever saw was one that TCM showed & a friend bought me the DVD of. Am talking about "The Gole
from 1920 based on a Hebrew legend. Don't get me wrong...it was
Germany in the 20's...so tons of stereotyping.

Another one which is almost laughable is "Hexen". Believe it's from 1922 & looks at
witches/witchcraft through the ages.

Goes without saying that we need to include "Metropolis" in there. Even have a copy that was done in the 80's with music from the era. On the other hand...check
out "3 Penny Opera" in German with Peter Lorre.

It's kind of fascinating when you consider what Germany was doing in
cinema during this era...compared to the US.

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I have to check for The Golem.

Metropolis was also nice. It should get more TV time these days :-)

One I really liked, but is controversial and nazi as heck, is The Birth of a Nation. A
film does not get more racist than that XD but I found the thing compelling.

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Nosferatu is freaking awesome.

The actor behind Nosferatu looked like a vampire in real life. Great choice, t
y made
with him. And the part where Nosferatu is watching the girl across the street om the
window was so damn cool imo.

Yes. I also liked how the coffin he is in manages to get onto the wagon so
he can follow the girl back across Europe.

If you have never seen "The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari" you need to.

I think one of the best horror flicks I have seen was one from a Boris Karloff
V
series. There was a scene in which a dude was trying to guess his way through underground sewer labyrinth. He reached a juntion, looked at a map and decided
hich
path to take. He disappears in the darkness. Them from the other path in the s
e
juntion appears a vampire in a sinister cape, looks at the camera, and follows
he
herro into the black. The look it directed towards the camera was soul freezin
That
scene alone was more chilling that half a dozen modern Hollywood horror movies

Is that an episode of his TV show, "Thriller"? If so, do you remember the title? I have seen several episodes of that series but that one does not
sound familiar. Sounds like one I need to see.


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Goes without saying that we need to include "Metropolis" in there. Even have a copy that was done in the 80's with music from the era. On the other hand...check out "3 Penny Opera" in German with Peter Lorre.

I didn't think of it as being a horror film but, yes, "Metropolis" is incredible. Over the Winter, TCM showed the near-full restored version
with many of the later-removed and/or censored scenes added back. For its
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One I really liked, but is controversial and nazi as heck, is The Birth of a Nation. A
film does not get more racist than that XD but I found the thing compelling.

That film predates the nazis by quite a few years. It tells a white supremacist story, for sure. That movie set a bunch of firsts for the early
US film industry.


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I have to check for The Golem.

May be able to find it on You Tube. Well worth the watch. Reminds of Whale's version of "Frankenstein".

One I really liked, but is controversial and nazi as heck, is The Birth
of a Nation. A
film does not get more racist than that XD but I found the thing compelling.

Agree. Want to see something else along these lines I saw in college...check out the 1933 Nuremberg rallies. Message sucks...but the film work is 1st
rate.

Another from 20 years after this is "The Seventh Seal". It's with Max Von
Sydow & from the mid-50's. Never seen it...you will recognize stuff that everyone uses up to today in their films.

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I didn't think of it as being a horror film but, yes, "Metropolis" is incredible. Over the Winter, TCM showed the near-full restored version with many of the later-removed and/or censored scenes added back. For
its time (at least among surviving films), it is a pretty long movie.

Wish I had TCM. It's 1 of the channels I really miss.

In terms of length...I seem to remember it was clocked between 4-6 hours originally.

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Re: Back To The Future 4K com
By: Dumas Walker to ARELOR on Fri Jul 31 2020 06:28 pm

Is that an episode of his TV show, "Thriller"? If so, do you remember the title? I have seen several episodes of that series but that one does not sound familiar. Sounds like one I need to see.

I think it is from Thriller. I have the DVD so I will check it out for you later.

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Greetings Nightfox!

28 Jul 20 22:51, you wrote to Arelor about an urgent matter!:

Re: Back To The Future 4K coming October 20, 2020
By: Arelor to Nightfox on Tue Jul 28 2020 06:09 pm

Thanks for the heads up.

I really respect the IP owners for just doing remasters and
re-releases instead of remakes, prequels and sequels that trash
the original concept.

I don't mind sequels. Sometimes a sequel can be pretty good.

I've heard some 4K releases are just upscales of the 1080 version. Upscaling technology is improving (there is even AI software that can
fill in details when upscaling video), but hopefully this Back To The Future 4K release will be a true re-scan and remaster in 4K rather
than an upscale.

The best 4k movie ive seen that was not just an upscale was the original ghost busters movie, it looked awesome on the tv.


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Re: Back To The Future 4K coming October 20, 2020
By: Rick Smith to Nightfox on Wed Jul 29 2020 11:10 am

The best 4k movie ive seen that was not just an upscale was the original ghost busters movie, it looked awesome on the tv.

That's cool. I should probably buy that, as I didn't know it was available on 4K. I bought a 2-pack of Ghostbusters & Ghostbusters 2 on blu-ray, and I also saw Ghostbusters again in the theater when it was re-released in theaters in 2014 for its 30th anniversary. I think it looked good, though the image was a little grainy. I think they did something different for the sequel, because the picture looked a lot better and had significantly less grain.

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Re: Back To The Future 4K coming October 20, 2020
By: Nightfox to Rick Smith on Mon Aug 24 2020 08:07 am

Re: Back To The Future 4K coming October 20, 2020
By: Rick Smith to Nightfox on Wed Jul 29 2020 11:10 am

The best 4k movie ive seen that was not just an upscale was the original ghost busters movie, it looked awesome on the

That's cool. I should probably buy that, as I didn't know it was available on 4K. I bought a 2-pack of Ghostbusters &
Ghostbusters 2 on blu-ray, and I also saw Ghostbusters again in the theater when it was re-released in theaters in 2014 for
30th anniversary. I think it looked good, though the image was a little grainy. I think they did something different for t
sequel, because the picture looked a lot better and had significantly less grain.

Nightfox

Can you believe I haven't watched the first Ghostbusters film? The second was ok, if I remember well.

What I remember are the spin-off cartoons with heavy metal guitars in the intro. And the way the Ghostbusters remake bombed

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Greetings Arelor!

25 Aug 20 02:47, you wrote to Nightfox about an urgent matter!:

Can you believe I haven't watched the first Ghostbusters film? The
second was ok, if I remember well.

Its worth a watch, atleast in 4k...

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Re: Back To The Future 4K coming October 20, 2020
By: Rick Smith to Arelor on Tue Aug 25 2020 06:46 pm

Greetings Arelor!

25 Aug 20 02:47, you wrote to Nightfox about an urgent matter!:

Can you believe I haven't watched the first Ghostbusters film? The second was ok, if I remember well.

Its worth a watch, atleast in 4k...

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I think I have no access to a 4k display.

My GPU has trouble with high definition video as it is anyway :-)

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Re: Back To The Future 4K coming October 20, 2020
By: Rick Smith to Arelor on Tue Aug 25 2020 06:46 pm

Greetings Arelor!

25 Aug 20 02:47, you wrote to Nightfox about an urgent matter!:

Can you believe I haven't watched the first Ghostbusters film? The second was ok, if I remember well.

Its worth a watch, atleast in 4k...

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Late, but paradoxically 35mm on cinemas got better resolution than 4k,
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Re: Back To The Future 4K coming October 20, 2020
By: anthk to Rick Smith on Tue Oct 20 2020 08:30 am

Re: Back To The Future 4K coming October 20, 2020
By: Rick Smith to Arelor on Tue Aug 25 2020 06:46 pm

Greetings Arelor!

25 Aug 20 02:47, you wrote to Nightfox about an urgent matter!:

Can you believe I haven't watched the first Ghostbusters film? The second was ok, if I remember well.

Its worth a watch, atleast in 4k...

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Late, but paradoxically 35mm on cinemas got better resolution than 4k,
so this is more like a downgrade ;)
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It's interesting you bring that up. I have certainly heard it as an argument for prefering blu-ray versions of old
films over DVD versions. The source material, when properly managed, is so high quality than there is (supposedly)
a difference.

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