What software do you all suggest I use to open, read, reply, and send messages via qwk? During my dos years, I used bluewave but, by 1997, it was impossible to register the software from shareware. And had that nag screen.
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What software do you all suggest I use to open, read, reply, and send messages via qwk? During my dos years, I used bluewave but, by 1997, it was impossible to register the software from shareware. And had that nag screen. Daniel Traechin

Multimail

https://multimail.sourceforge.io/

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On 04-17-20 19:06, calcmandan wrote to All <=-

What software do you all suggest I use to open, read, reply, and send messages via qwk? During my dos years, I used bluewave but, by 1997, it was impossible to register the software from shareware. And had that
nag screen. Daniel Traechin

Multimail. It's currently maintained and available for modern OSs. I'm using Multimail right now.


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Vk3jed wrote to calcmandan <=-

What software do you all suggest I use to open, read, reply, and send messages via qwk? During my dos years, I used bluewave but, by 1997, it was impossible to register the software from shareware. And had that
nag screen. Daniel Traechin

Multimail. It's currently maintained and available for modern
OSs. I'm using Multimail right now.

I'll be the third to recommend MultiMail. I really like it a lot.



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On 04-18-20 11:56, Gamgee wrote to Vk3jed <=-

I'll be the third to recommend MultiMail. I really like it a lot.

Yes, I really like it.


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Vk3jed wrote to Gamgee <=-

On 04-18-20 11:56, Gamgee wrote to Vk3jed <=-

I'll be the third to recommend MultiMail. I really like it a lot.

Yes, I really like it.

i just discovered that it is in the repos for kubuntu so i got it now. unfortunately it's using vim as a text editor and i'm having the damnest time saving the messag








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calcmandan wrote to Vk3jed <=-

I'll be the third to recommend MultiMail. I really like it a lot.

Yes, I really like it.

i just discovered that it is in the repos for kubuntu so i got it
now. unfortunately it's using vim as a text editor and i'm having
the damnest time saving the messag

In your home directory there will be a file named '.mmailrc'

Edit this file and you'll see where you can specify the editor
you'd like to use.

I prefer 'nano'.

I think the command you'd want in vim is: <Esc>:wq<Enter>



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Gamgee wrote to calcmandan <=-

In your home directory there will be a file named '.mmailrc'

I prefer emacs, but nano is good for quick text editing such as these
posts.

Edit this file and you'll see where you can specify the editor
you'd like to use.

I prefer 'nano'.

I think the command you'd want in vim is: <Esc>:wq<Enter>

I had actually figured it out, which is how it ended up being
posted, heh.



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On 04-20-20 04:20, calcmandan wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Vk3jed wrote to Gamgee <=-

On 04-18-20 11:56, Gamgee wrote to Vk3jed <=-

I'll be the third to recommend MultiMail. I really like it a lot.

Yes, I really like it.

i just discovered that it is in the repos for kubuntu so i got it now. unfortunately it's using vim as a text editor and i'm having the
damnest time saving the messag

<ESC>.wq :)

You can configure the text editor in Multimail.


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On 04-20-20 09:21, Gamgee wrote to calcmandan <=-

Edit this file and you'll see where you can specify the editor
you'd like to use.

I prefer 'nano'.

That's what I did. :) Only issue with nano is it can't do a word wrap on the display only like Windows Notepad can, so you don't get to see long paragraphs that you type, until the message is actually posted. Other than that, nano is great.

I think the command you'd want in vim is: <Esc>:wq<Enter>

Looks right to me. :)


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Vk3jed wrote to Gamgee <=-

Edit this file and you'll see where you can specify the editor
you'd like to use.

I prefer 'nano'.

That's what I did. :) Only issue with nano is it can't do a word
wrap on the display only like Windows Notepad can, so you don't
get to see long paragraphs that you type, until the message is
actually posted. Other than that, nano is great.

Yeah, I've just got mine set up to wrap at about 70 columns and it
seems to be fine.

I think the command you'd want in vim is: <Esc>:wq<Enter>

Looks right to me. :)

Hehe. I once was ambitious (foolish?) enough to think I might
"master" vi/vim one day... That was quite a few years ago and I have
admitted defeat. I still use it occasionally but most of what I
do now is with nano. Including the writing of this message. :)


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On 04-21-20 11:19, Gamgee wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Yeah, I've just got mine set up to wrap at about 70 columns and it
seems to be fine.

But does that wrap the saved text as well? That doesn't look great on terminals with widths other than 80(ish) columns. I know nano can wrap text, but it saves the file that way too. I only want wrapping on the screen, but not in the saved file.

I think the command you'd want in vim is: <Esc>:wq<Enter>

Looks right to me. :)

Hehe. I once was ambitious (foolish?) enough to think I might
"master" vi/vim one day... That was quite a few years ago and I have admitted defeat. I still use it occasionally but most of what I
do now is with nano. Including the writing of this message. :)

If you use vi(m) all the time you could become a guru at it, but I don't use it enough myself.


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Gamgee wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Hehe. I once was ambitious (foolish?) enough to think I might
"master" vi/vim one day... That was quite a few years ago and I have admitted defeat. I still use it occasionally but most of what I
do now is with nano. Including the writing of this message. :)

I'm an emacs guy myself.

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calcmandan wrote to Gamgee <=-

Hehe. I once was ambitious (foolish?) enough to think I might
"master" vi/vim one day... That was quite a few years ago and I have admitted defeat. I still use it occasionally but most of what I
do now is with nano. Including the writing of this message. :)

I'm an emacs guy myself.

Doh! Sorry to hear that... :) Just kidding. That's another
beast I have decided to not do battle with.


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Vk3jed wrote to Gamgee <=-

Yeah, I've just got mine set up to wrap at about 70 columns and it
seems to be fine.

But does that wrap the saved text as well? That doesn't look
great on terminals with widths other than 80(ish) columns. I
know nano can wrap text, but it saves the file that way too. I
only want wrapping on the screen, but not in the saved file.

I guess it does wrap the saved text also. Not sure what the right "compromise" is any more.

Hehe. I once was ambitious (foolish?) enough to think I might
"master" vi/vim one day... That was quite a few years ago and I have admitted defeat. I still use it occasionally but most of what I
do now is with nano. Including the writing of this message. :)

If you use vi(m) all the time you could become a guru at it, but
I don't use it enough myself.

Yeah, it's one of those skills that's "use it or lose it".



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Gamgee wrote to calcmandan <=-

I'm an emacs guy myself.

Doh! Sorry to hear that... :) Just kidding. That's another
beast I have decided to not do battle with.

I found a reference card online that i can print. I did so, laminated
it and keep it near me when i'm coding. Once I got used to the more
routine things it's like second nature.

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Love this tagline. I'm one of those people. Shared it with friends.

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On 04-22-20 07:30, Gamgee wrote to Vk3jed <=-

I guess it does wrap the saved text also. Not sure what the right "compromise" is any more.

FTN standard is no line breaks within paragraps. Some software inclused so-called "soft CRs" that FTN software is supposed to ignore, but they may help with local displays. Good old Windows Notepad actually gets it right. If you turn word wrap on in Notepad, it wraps nicely on the screen, but the text is saved as a single unbroken line of text, which is perfect for FTNs.

If you use vi(m) all the time you could become a guru at it, but
I don't use it enough myself.

Yeah, it's one of those skills that's "use it or lose it".

Yep true. Something I'll stay firmly in the "lost it" camp with. ;)


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Vk3jed wrote to Gamgee <=-

I guess it does wrap the saved text also. Not sure what the right "compromise" is any more.

FTN standard is no line breaks within paragraps. Some software
inclused so-called "soft CRs" that FTN software is supposed to
ignore, but they may help with local displays. Good old Windows
Notepad actually gets it right. If you turn word wrap on in
Notepad, it wraps nicely on the screen, but the text is saved as
a single unbroken line of text, which is perfect for FTNs.

Okay. There's been a lot of talk in recent weeks in various echos about this subject, and it's hard to keep up with some of that stuff. As an experiment, I've turned off wrapping in this message (in nano), and so far this very long line keeps scrolling to the right with no wrapping. We'll see how it looks when posted, I guess. :)

If you use vi(m) all the time you could become a guru at it, but
I don't use it enough myself.

Yeah, it's one of those skills that's "use it or lose it".

Yep true. Something I'll stay firmly in the "lost it" camp with. ;)

Haha - I'm right there with ya in the next tent over.


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On 04-23-20 07:52, Gamgee wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Okay. There's been a lot of talk in recent weeks in various echos
about this subject, and it's hard to keep up with some of that stuff.
As an experiment, I've turned off wrapping in this message (in nano),
and so far this very long line keeps scrolling to the right with no wrapping. We'll see how it looks when posted, I guess. :)

And here, it displayed perfectly, as one would expect. :)

If you use vi(m) all the time you could become a guru at it, but
I don't use it enough myself.

Yeah, it's one of those skills that's "use it or lose it".

Yep true. Something I'll stay firmly in the "lost it" camp with. ;)

Haha - I'm right there with ya in the next tent over.

LOL, it's a rather big camp these days, more like tent city. :D


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Gamgee wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Okay. There's been a lot of talk in recent weeks in various echos
about this subject, and it's hard to keep up with some of that stuff.
As an experiment, I've turned off wrapping in this message (in nano),
and so far this very long line keeps scrolling to the right with no wrapping. We'll see how it looks when posted, I guess. :)

It's obvious that it wrapped. I did the same experiment the other day trying to figure out how to get emacs to wrap at 78 lines. Then I read somewhere that it happens automatically when posting. I experimented with a post by typing all in one line. It worked. Then a subsequent post I made, it didn't. I mean, the text didn't scroll to the right, but it didn't wrap. So I wasn't sure why it worked and didn't.


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