I've been watching Picard Season 3. I almost didn't bother after last season, but it's been (for the most part) a much better experience than the first two seasons, and really feels like a legit TNG reunion.

We've also been watching The Mandolorian (but are a few episodes behind) and I've been half-watching TNG while I goof off on the computer. I'm almost to the good 'beard' years. :D

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On 09 Apr 2023 at 09:13p, Thom Miller pondered and said...

I've been watching Picard Season 3. I almost didn't bother after last season, but it's been (for the most part) a much better experience than the first two seasons, and really feels like a legit TNG reunion.

We've also been watching The Mandolorian (but are a few episodes behind) and I've been half-watching TNG while I goof off on the computer. I'm almost to the good 'beard' years. :D

I've been watching both of those also.. am also a few episodes behind in The Mandolorian..just watched one episode that felt like it was another show altogether..

Picard Season 3 has been great, the last episode was 20 years in the making.

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*** Quoting Avon to Thom Miller dated 04-10-23 ***

Picard Season 3 has been great, the last episode was 20 years in the
making.

I still have my issues with it here and there, but overall it's much better than season one and MUCH better than season two, imo. At this point, my biggest complaint is that they're *really* dragging out the big reveal on who the bad guys *really* are...

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Re: What are you watching?
By: Thom Miller to All on Sun Apr 09 2023 09:13 pm

I've been watching Picard Season 3. I almost didn't bother after last season, but it's been (for the most part) a much better experience than the first two seasons, and really feels like a legit TNG reunion.

I've been watching that too, and I'm enjoying this season. It seems some shows don't start out very good, and like The Next Generation, I think the first 2 seasons of Picard weren't great, but it has gotten much better in the 3rd season.

I've also been watching Star Trek: Discovery. I've seen it through season 3 and will be starting season 4 fairly soon.

We've also been watching The Mandolorian (but are a few episodes behind) and I've been half-watching TNG while I goof off on the computer. I'm almost to the good 'beard' years. :D

I tried to watch the 1st episode of The Mandalorian but couldn't really get into it.

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Re: Re: What are you watching?
By: Avon to Thom Miller on Mon Apr 10 2023 09:04 pm

Picard Season 3 has been great, the last episode was 20 years in the making.

I've heard Brent Spiner has said multiple times that he feels it would make sense for him to stop playing Data (and Lore) he has aged out of those roles (where the characters aren't supposed to visibly age), but it seems they keep finding a way to have him keep playing Data. In a way, it probably made more sense for him to play different Soong characters (which he had been doing).

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*** Quoting Nightfox to Thom Miller dated 04-10-23 ***

I've also been watching Star Trek: Discovery. I've seen it through
season 3 and will be starting season 4 fairly soon.

I just...couldn't. I watched up until 3rd season, but after the episodes with Pike, Number One, and Spock, I was like... "This. I want *THIS*." I'm happy to say that Strange New Worlds gave me that and more. It is, IMO, the best first season of Trek we've had since TOS.

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I've been watching Picard Season 3. I almost didn't bother after last season, but it's been (for the most part) a much better experience than the first two seasons, and really feels like a legit TNG reunion.

Yes, 10000%. This season redeemed the last season, which was horrendous.

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On 10 Apr 2023 at 07:24a, Thom Miller pondered and said...

I still have my issues with it here and there, but overall it's much better than season one and MUCH better than season two, imo. At this point, my biggest complaint is that they're *really* dragging out the
big reveal on who the bad guys *really* are...

Yes, who is pulling the strings?

I expect Will and Deanna's daughter will play a upcoming role in some new Star Trek in the coming year or so. I wonder if a show based on Star Fleet Academy will soon arrive as an announcement.

I didn't mind the first season of Picard, I liked it more than Season 2 which although interesting seemed like a rehash of much of Star Trek The Voyage Home.

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On 10 Apr 2023 at 02:43p, Nightfox pondered and said...

I've heard Brent Spiner has said multiple times that he feels it would make sense for him to stop playing Data (and Lore) he has aged out of those roles (where the characters aren't supposed to visibly age), but
it seems they keep finding a way to have him keep playing Data. In a
way, it probably made more sense for him to play different Soong characters (which he had been doing).

I'd heard/read?? that Spiner didn't want to play Data again and only appeared in the characters he did play in Season 2 because of that desire. But I'm glad he's back as Data in Season 3 and I think some nice touches in Episode 8 when Geordi and Data get to chat and share some thoughts / feelings :)

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On 10 Apr 2023 at 06:05p, Abbub pondered and said...

I just...couldn't. I watched up until 3rd season, but after the episodes with Pike, Number One, and Spock, I was like... "This. I want *THIS*."
I'm happy to say that Strange New Worlds gave me that and more. It is, IMO, the best first season of Trek we've had since TOS.

Strange New Worlds has been a great show so far. I'm glad Season 2 was green lighted early on. I'm looking forward to it.

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I expect Will and Deanna's daughter will play a upcoming role in some
new Star Trek in the coming year or so. I wonder if a show based on
Star Fleet Academy will soon arrive as an announcement.

I'm pretty sure the Star Fleet Academy show (which they've been talking about for a few years now) was actually announced as being officially 'greenlit' a week or so back.

I didn't mind the first season of Picard, I liked it more than Season 2
which although interesting seemed like a rehash of much of Star Trek
The Voyage Home.

The first season had a decent story that was poorly written. The second season had a poor story that was poorly written. The third season has a pretty decent story that's for the most part well written. My problem with season two is that I just didn't care about the story. There was nothing really compelling there.

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Strange New Worlds has been a great show so far. I'm glad Season 2 was
green lighted early on. I'm looking forward to it.

Yeah, it just got greenlit for season three. Apparently they were so confident in where they stood with season two that they had already started production on season three before it was officially renewed.

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Re: Re: What are you watching?
By: Avon to Nightfox on Tue Apr 11 2023 07:24 pm

I'd heard/read?? that Spiner didn't want to play Data again and only appeared in the characters he did play in Season 2 because of that desire. But I'm glad he's back as Data in Season 3 and I think some nice touches in Episode 8 when Geordi and Data get to chat and share some thoughts / feelings :)

I agree. :)

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Re: What are you watching?
By: Abbub to Nightfox on Mon Apr 10 2023 06:05 pm

I've also been watching Star Trek: Discovery. I've seen it through
season 3 and will be starting season 4 fairly soon.

I just...couldn't. I watched up until 3rd season, but after the episodes with Pike, Number One, and Spock, I was like... "This. I want *THIS*." I'm happy to say that Strange New Worlds gave me that and more. It is, IMO, the best first season of Trek we've had since TOS.

I think the first season of Strange New Worlds was really good, though I still feel like there have been too many Star Trek prequels now (especially ones in the Kirk era). Enterprise was the first Star Trek prequel, and I think it was interesting and should have gone longer, but then there was the JJ Abrams reboot Star Trek movies with Kirk and his crew, and then Discovery (just 10 years before the original series), and now Strange New Worlds (though it is a good series).

Recently I've heard they're planning another Star Trek series based on Starfleet Academy in the 32nd century, after Discovery season 5 concludes.

For a long time, I've thought it would be good to see a movie or TV series featuring the Enterprise B or C, since we only ever saw those once each. The 'Lost Era' seems like a big opportunity that that they haven't developed.

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Thom Miller wrote to All <=-

I've been watching Picard Season 3. I almost didn't bother after last season, but it's been (for the most part) a much better experience than the first two seasons, and really feels like a legit TNG reunion.

Come for the TNG reunion, stay for the Shaw/Seven spinoff
possibilities...

We've also been watching The Mandolorian (but are a few episodes
behind) and I've been half-watching TNG while I goof off on the
computer. I'm almost to the good 'beard' years. :D

I just read "A Stitch in Time" by Andrew Robinson, the actor who played
Garak. It details Garak's backstory with a lot of Cardassia before and
during the occupation of Bajor, as well as rebuilding after the Dominion
war. That's got me re-watching DS9, starting, of course, with "Into the
Pale Moonlight".



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Abbub wrote to Nightfox <=-

I just...couldn't. I watched up until 3rd season, but after the
episodes with Pike, Number One, and Spock, I was like... "This. I want *THIS*." I'm happy to say that Strange New Worlds gave me that and
more. It is, IMO, the best first season of Trek we've had since TOS.

100%.

I loved that they made Nurse Chapel into a more significant character,
I'd follow Pike to the ends of the universe if I were in Starfleet, and
I very much enjoyed Hemmer's role as the mentor.

"To fix what which is broken" as a person's guiding principle is pretty profound for a TV show.

The scene where Uhura is hazed at the bridge officer's dinner by Hemmer
and Spock was pretty good. I was a little off-put by her story of not
really wanting to be in Starfleet, as they mentioned, I'm sure there's a backlog of people who are as good and want to be there.



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Avon wrote to Nightfox <=-

But I'm glad he's back as Data in Season 3 and I think some
nice touches in Episode 8 when Geordi and Data get to chat and share
some thoughts / feelings :)

Le Var Burton did a fantastic job conveying the pain and hurt at losing
his friend and the joy of seeing him again after many years had passed.
His voice work in the most recent episode was wonderful -- which makes
sense since he played a role for 7 years where you couldn't see his
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Re: Re: What are you watching?
By: Avon to Abbub on Tue Apr 11 2023 07:24 pm

Strange New Worlds has been a great show so far. I'm glad Season 2 was green lighted early on. I'm looking forward to it.

I saw Strange New Worlds season 1 is going to be available on 4K blu-ray, which I thought was interesting (for a TV show). I'd had the standard blu-ray pre-ordered, but when I saw the 4K was going to be available, I canceled my blu-ray pre-order and I pre-ordered the 4K version instead.

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For a long time, I've thought it would be good to see a movie or TV
series featuring the Enterprise B or C, since we only ever saw those
once each. The 'Lost Era' seems like a big opportunity that that they haven't developed.

That would be really cool, particularly since we know how things end for the C. Have an entire series featuring Garrett in command of the C, and then the last episode could be the Battle of Nerenda III viewed from the other side of the temporal rift. Go all 'Empire Strikes Back' on it and end it on a real downer! :D

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Come for the TNG reunion, stay for the Shaw/Seven spinoff
possibilities...

Yeah, I like Shaw, but I like Shaw as a supporting character. I'm not entirely sure how I'd feel about a series of him. Still, I'd take it over the Worf/Raffi speculation, because as much as I love Worf, I just...can't deal with Raffi as a character. :/

That's got me re-watching DS9, starting, of course, with "Into the
Pale Moonlight".

Yeah, I might hit DS9 after this TNG run, or start mixing them when I get to that point. Last night I watched the 'conspiracy' episode. Earlier in Picard, some people were speculating that the 'bugs' from conspiracy may end up being the bad guys. I kind of wish they had done that, but I'm certain at this point they haven't. The last scene in conspiracy is Data talking about how they sent out a beacon directing the way to Earth. That'd be pretty cool to have a payoff for that line 30+ years later.

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I'd follow Pike to the ends of the universe if I were in Starfleet, and
I very much enjoyed Hemmer's role as the mentor.

Wouldn't be hard: just follow the hair. :D Yeah, I'm bummed about Hemmer, but apparently the actor has a new role in season two, so that'll be interesting.

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Re: What are you watching?
By: Abbub to Nightfox on Tue Apr 11 2023 02:45 pm

That would be really cool, particularly since we know how things end for the C. Have an entire series featuring Garrett in command of the C, and then the last episode could be the Battle of Nerenda III viewed from the other side of the temporal rift. Go all 'Empire Strikes Back' on it and end it on a real downer! :D

Since they referenced Captain Garrett in Picard with a statue, I'd love to see her kicking some Romulan ass before going through the rift. You have to figure the captain of a flagship would have to be something pretty amazing to merit a statue. I'd like to see the E-C take out 3 of the Romulans before going out.

The Enterprise Incident was 23 years before TNG, correct? Picard would be on the Stargazer. Bonus points for getting Jack Crusher to play a younger Picard.
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Since they referenced Captain Garrett in Picard with a statue, I'd love
to see her kicking some Romulan ass before going through the rift. You
have to figure the captain of a flagship would have to be something
pretty amazing to merit a statue. I'd like to see the E-C take out 3 of
the Romulans before going out.

Well, I mean she did sacrifice herself and her ship to come to the rescue of an embattled Klingon outpost, which led to the peace treaty between the Federation and the Klingon empire. I'd say that's statue-worthy.

I just watched the last episode of TNG season one last night, where Worf mentions that the Romulans are dishonorable because they attacked the colony where he was born and killed his parents. Presumably this is around the same time as the events of Yesterday's Enterprise... (on the other side of the rift, I mean.)

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On 11 Apr 2023 at 07:29a, Abbub pondered and said...

new Star Trek in the coming year or so. I wonder if a show based on
Star Fleet Academy will soon arrive as an announcement.

I'm pretty sure the Star Fleet Academy show (which they've been talking about for a few years now) was actually announced as being officially 'greenlit' a week or so back.

I likely heard this or something like that?? But yay if true, that's good news.

The first season had a decent story that was poorly written. The second season had a poor story that was poorly written. The third season has a pretty decent story that's for the most part well written. My problem
with season two is that I just didn't care about the story. There was nothing really compelling there.

I thought the first season story was OK until the final episodes as I didn't think the payoff was all that good. But I liked the way they treated the death of Data.

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On 10 Apr 23 21:04:28 Avon wrote...

I've been watching both of those also.. am also a few episodes behind
in The Mandolorian..just watched one episode that felt like it was
another show altogether..

To which Commodore Clifford replies...

If that was the one with the Dr. that worked for Gideon that you're
talking about.....


Fear not... it gets better. Much better.

That episode sucked. I'm all for character development, but not the
trivial stupid ones. That storyline didn't deserve to be the focus of
almost the whole episode, especially given how it ended up.

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On 19 Apr 2023 at 12:46a, Commodore Clifford pondered and said...

If that was the one with the Dr. that worked for Gideon that you're talking about.....

yep

Fear not... it gets better. Much better.

Just watched and episode called Spies and really enjoyed that. I have a hunch there is still a mole. I'll say no more :)

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If that was the one with the Dr. that worked for Gideon that you're
talking about.....
Fear not... it gets better. Much better.

Yeah, we finally caught up this last weekend. That definitely felt like it
was part of the story that could have been told in snippets over a few episodes, instead of dumping it all at once and losing focus from what the actual Mandolorian was up to.

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On 19 Apr 23 08:37:45 Abbub wrote...

If that was the one with the Dr. that worked for Gideon that
you're talking about..... Fear not... it gets better. Much better.

Yeah, we finally caught up this last weekend. That definitely felt
like it was part of the story that could have been told in snippets
over a few episodes, instead of dumping it all at once and losing
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To which Commodore Clifford replies...

No, it's part of the story that could have been completely left out
without me ever feeling like my life was lacking in some way. :)

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No, it's part of the story that could have been completely left out
without me ever feeling like my life was lacking in some way. :)

Possibly. I'll reserve complete judgement until the season is over, but yeah,
I think it was mostly just there to flesh out the double-agent imperial lady, which didn't need it's own episode.

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