• Netmail Outside Zone 21

    From Al@21:4/106.1 to deurbroucq on Mon Mar 8 21:06:24 2021
    Re: Netmail Outside Zone 21
    By: deurbroucq to All on Mon Mar 08 2021 10:53 pm

    Hello! I can send netmail from my node at 21:3/139 to ping@21:2/116 just fine. But I cannot seem to send netmail to ping@3:633/509 or ping@3:633/609 (which I saw listed in other message areas).

    Your messages to 3:633/509 and 609 might be getting hung up somewhere.

    They might be getting hung up at 21:1/100. That node is down at the moment I think for some planned power outages in his area. I suspect he'll be back up soon so give it a bit of time.

    My 21:3/100 node is set to route 1:* 2:* 3:* 4:* 21:*. Did I miss something?

    Your setup is routing all mail through your hub at 21:3/100. That's fine and mail for your own linked nodes will go directly to them.

    Routed mail can take longer as it travels the net to it's destination.

    It's also possible you could route fido mail through your fido NC or link.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

    ... Misspelled? Impossible. My modem is error correcting.
    --- SBBSecho 3.13-Linux
    * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106.1)
  • From deurbroucq@21:3/139 to All on Mon Mar 8 22:53:59 2021
    Hello! I can send netmail from my node at 21:3/139 to ping@21:2/116 just
    fine. But I cannot seem to send netmail to ping@3:633/509 or ping@3:633/609 (which I saw listed in other message areas). My 21:3/100 node is set to route 1:* 2:* 3:* 4:* 21:*. Did I miss something?

    Thank you!
    Minh

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: The Bat Cave (21:3/139)
  • From deurbroucq@21:3/139 to Al on Tue Mar 9 00:29:45 2021
    On 08 Mar 2021, Al said the following...
    Your messages to 3:633/509 and 609 might be getting hung up somewhere.

    Thank you! I will wait a bit and see what happens.

    Minh

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: The Bat Cave (21:3/139)
  • From bcw142@21:1/145 to deurbroucq on Tue Mar 9 09:17:31 2021
    On 09 Mar 2021, deurbroucq said the following...

    On 08 Mar 2021, Al said the following...
    Your messages to 3:633/509 and 609 might be getting hung up somewhere

    Yup, common issue when moving between zones, nets, and nodes. It can take some time and it might get hung up for a short time somewhere in the world ;P

    It used to be a game we'd play - how long can you make routed email take?
    We'd route things via bang paths through Japan and other places around the world trying for the longest time and route. The thing was to route via the strangest country via the slowest route. We'd compare results around first
    break time (9am-11am or so). We did that from early BBS and UUCP days right
    up to UNH and industry (Digital and others that had email).

    We can still do it today ;) In some places we can even use UUCP like the old waffle days between Avon in NZ and me in NH in the 1990's. The heyday of USENET. We did discuss stuff back that far and he was in NZ then (and we were both using Waffle via UUCP on old PCs). USENET wanted real names back then on the areas we were on.

    We can still use FSXNET to see how long it takes to route through Avon's Hubs back to areas of the US. Half way around the world and back ;) An email
    version of a HAM contest. We can download the email as it moves between
    systems and verify things along the way like the bang path used to do.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/02/12 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: Mystic Pi BBS bcw142.zapto.org:23 (21:1/145)
  • From deurbroucq@21:3/139 to bcw142 on Tue Mar 9 10:19:24 2021
    On 09 Mar 2021, bcw142 said the following...
    It used to be a game we'd play - how long can you make routed email take?

    All my pings outside zone 21 went through. The pongs came back almost 6.5
    hours later.

    In the 90s, my friend was in Antarctica. He used to send email with no
    spaces and punctuation because it cost almost $1 a character to send it via satelite. Sometimes it would take days to receive email due to weather, etc.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: The Bat Cave (21:3/139)
  • From bcw142@21:1/145 to deurbroucq on Tue Mar 9 11:20:17 2021
    On 09 Mar 2021, deurbroucq said the following...

    All my pings outside zone 21 went through. The pongs came back almost 6.5 hours later.

    In the 90s, my friend was in Antarctica. He used to send email with no spaces and punctuation because it cost almost $1 a character to send it via satelite. Sometimes it would take days to receive email due to weather, etc.

    I take it satellite was the only way to get through at all. Luckily I don't know anyone with that issue. My cousins were in Japan for 5 years and could
    be reached by various slow methods ;) we were already paying a fixed amount for the 'slow' methods monthly so it wasn't costing anything like that.
    When i had UUCP I also had sip via a shell account, before that it was
    all dial up (which was setup through Win95/98/Linux to dial out automatically when a connection was called up). There was only a few years when I dialed
    out via modem myself. Generally I had the modems in the basement and turned down a bit, unlike other that kept them in their rooms on max. volume (atv3).

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/02/12 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: Mystic Pi BBS bcw142.zapto.org:23 (21:1/145)
  • From bcw142@21:1/145 to deurbroucq on Tue Mar 9 11:40:23 2021
    On 09 Mar 2021, deurbroucq said the following...

    All my pings outside zone 21 went through. The pongs came back almost 6.5 hours later.

    Oops the Hayes was atl3, there were older ones I had that used atv3 for max. volume on the modem speaker. Not sure if Commodore was one of them. I had
    300, 1200, 2400 Commodore modems before we got to 33k when it was all being dialed via any attempt at connection. There was always an older PC just
    setup with 33K or higher modem on my home network to dial out at that point. Then UUCP & SIP, then ADSL, now broadband modem.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/02/12 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: Mystic Pi BBS bcw142.zapto.org:23 (21:1/145)
  • From deon@21:2/116 to deurbroucq on Wed Mar 10 20:47:42 2021
    Re: Netmail Outside Zone 21
    By: deurbroucq to All on Mon Mar 08 2021 10:53 pm

    Howdy,

    fine. But I cannot seem to send netmail to ping@3:633/509 or ping@3:633/609 (which I saw listed in other message areas). My 21:3/100
    node is set to route 1:* 2:* 3:* 4:* 21:*. Did I miss something?

    The correct address is 509. (It was a typo of mine when I put 609.)

    It'll probably take some time - dont be surprised if it is an hour or few.

    I think when I tried it, it took about 40 mins. I've heard some other folks saying it took them about 5hrs.

    ...лоеп

    ... You can drink 'em pretty, but can you drink 'em young?
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    * Origin: I'm playing with ANSI+videotex - wanna play too? (21:2/116)