• Not really a test...

    From Shurato@21:2/148 to All on Sat Feb 10 22:09:00 2024
    But why do I miss so many messages? It just appears to be fsxnet, not any of my other nets. I miss a LOT of original test messages that are responded to, and miss a LOT of responses to messages that I post until I see responses to those responses...

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Shurato on Sun Feb 11 20:43:45 2024
    On 10 Feb 2024 at 10:09p, Shurato pondered and said...

    But why do I miss so many messages? It just appears to be fsxnet, not
    any of my other nets. I miss a LOT of original test messages that are responded to, and miss a LOT of responses to messages that I post until
    I see responses to those responses...

    I am not sure. Feel free to post a few of those messages here along with their kludge lines and we can try to suss what's up.

    What we should try to do is narrow down the direction of travel of the packets to your BBS so we can suss what you are seeing and what you are not.

    So first up here's a reply from me in NET 1, could you reply to this and quote the kludges so we see how it got to you. Thanks :)

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  • From Al@21:4/106 to Shurato on Sun Feb 11 00:55:00 2024
    But why do I miss so many messages?

    That's a good question. That should not happen.

    It just appears to be fsxnet, not any of my other nets. I miss a LOT of original test messages that are responded to, and miss a LOT of responses to messages that I post until I see responses to those responses...

    That is curious. Do you see anything out of the ordinary in your logs?

    I wonder if HUB 2 is working as expected?

    Sorry no answers, only more questions. Maybe we can dig a bit and find out why this happens and solve it.

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  • From deon@21:2/116 to Shurato on Sun Feb 11 21:55:08 2024
    Re: Not really a test...
    By: Shurato to All on Sat Feb 10 2024 10:09 pm

    But why do I miss so many messages? It just appears to be fsxnet, not any of my other nets. I miss a LOT of original test messages that are responded to, and miss a LOT of responses to messages that I post until I see responses to those responses...

    There could be a couple of forces at play here.

    It would help if you looked through the replies (to the messages you didnt see), and figure out what is common with those messages (that you dont get). It would help if you share the MSGIDs of those replies.

    Its super easy for me to trace what that message is replying to, and then its a matter of seeing if you are in the SEENBY already and what put you there.

    Might be a problem with the hub, or it might be another hub that had a direct link to your address in a past life.

    Or something else weird...


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  • From Shurato@21:2/148 to Avon on Sun Feb 11 15:37:00 2024

    * In a message originally to Shurato, Avon said:

    On 10 Feb 2024 at 10:09p, Shurato pondered and said...

    But why do I miss so many messages? It just appears to be fsxnet,
    not
    any of my other nets. I miss a LOT of original test messages that
    are
    responded to, and miss a LOT of responses to messages that I post
    until
    I see responses to those responses...

    I am not sure. Feel free to post a few of those messages here along with their kludge lines and we can try to suss what's up.

    What we should try to do is narrow down the direction of travel of the packets to your BBS so we can suss what you are seeing and what you are
    not.

    So first up here's a reply from me in NET 1, could you reply to this and quote the kludges so we see how it got to you. Thanks :)


    I have no way of quoting Kludge Lines.


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    going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

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  • From Shurato@21:2/148 to Al on Sun Feb 11 16:28:00 2024

    But why do I miss so many messages?

    That's a good question. That should not happen.

    It just appears to be fsxnet, not any of my other nets. I miss a LOT of
    original test messages that are responded to, and miss a LOT of
    responses to
    messages that I post until I see responses to those responses...

    That is curious. Do you see anything out of the ordinary in your logs?

    I just see packets coming and going normally. No excessive badmail or any errors.

    I wonder if HUB 2 is working as expected?

    Sorry no answers, only more questions. Maybe we can dig a bit and find out why this happens and solve it.

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  • From Al@21:4/106 to Shurato on Mon Feb 12 00:14:38 2024
    That is curious. Do you see anything out of the ordinary in your logs?

    I just see packets coming and going normally. No excessive badmail or any errors.

    I wonder if you are not getting some messages for some reason?

    If that is the case we need to figure out why and take steps so that doesn't happen.

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  • From Shurato@21:2/148 to Al on Mon Feb 12 11:00:00 2024

    That is curious. Do you see anything out of the ordinary in your logs?

    I just see packets coming and going normally. No excessive badmail or
    any
    errors.

    I wonder if you are not getting some messages for some reason?

    If that is the case we need to figure out why and take steps so that doesn't happen.

    Agreed. I'm wondering if I'm the only one. I just noticed because there
    area lot of responses to test messages that I don't see, then there are responses to responses to my messages. I didn't see the oriignal
    responses... It could be Hub 2, don't know.

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  • From Al@21:4/106 to Shurato on Mon Feb 12 23:17:04 2024
    Agreed. I'm wondering if I'm the only one.

    It could be everyone in net 2 has been affected but noone has noticed.

    I just noticed because there area lot of responses to test messages that I don't see, then there are responses to responses to my messages. I didn't see the oriignal responses... It could be Hub 2, don't know.

    I don't know either but a little digging may help to isolate the issue.

    I am going to send you three messages in a few minutes. If you can let me know what you see that would be good.

    It might also help to know the node number where the message originated when you see it elsewhere. Then we can look at the expected path those messages travel the net.

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Al on Tue Feb 13 20:27:14 2024
    On 12 Feb 2024 at 11:17p, Al pondered and said...

    I am going to send you three messages in a few minutes. If you can let
    me know what you see that would be good.

    It might also help to know the node number where the message originated when you see it elsewhere. Then we can look at the expected path those messages travel the net.

    thanks Al.

    Hopefully we can suss it. Thanks also Deon for the offer of help.

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  • From Al@21:4/106 to Shurato on Mon Feb 12 23:45:22 2024
    I wonder if you are not getting some messages for some reason?

    If that is the case we need to figure out why and take steps so that
    doesn't happen.

    Agreed. I'm wondering if I'm the only one. I just noticed because there area lot of responses to test messages that I don't see, then there are responses to responses to my messages. I didn't see the oriignal responses... It could be Hub 2, don't know.

    This is test 3. This message is going out via hub4.

    I am getting an error ATM connecting to hub 1 but you should see all three messages is good time.

    Let me know if you see them.

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  • From Al@21:4/106 to Avon on Mon Feb 12 23:33:44 2024
    I am going to send you three messages in a few minutes. If you can let
    me know what you see that would be good.

    It might also help to know the node number where the message originated
    when you see it elsewhere. Then we can look at the expected path those
    messages travel the net.

    thanks Al.

    Hopefully we can suss it. Thanks also Deon for the offer of help.

    No worries. I expect nothing but perhaps something will shake out.

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  • From Al@21:4/106 to Shurato on Mon Feb 12 23:36:18 2024
    I wonder if you are not getting some messages for some reason?

    If that is the case we need to figure out why and take steps so that
    doesn't happen.

    Agreed. I'm wondering if I'm the only one. I just noticed because there area lot of responses to test messages that I don't see, then there are responses to responses to my messages. I didn't see the oriignal responses... It could be Hub 2, don't know.

    Here is test number 1. This message is only being sent to hub 1. I am also going to send a message via hub 3 and 4.

    Let me know if you see them. Hopefully you will see them all.

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  • From Al@21:4/106 to Shurato on Mon Feb 12 23:42:32 2024
    I wonder if you are not getting some messages for some reason?

    If that is the case we need to figure out why and take steps so that
    doesn't happen.

    Agreed. I'm wondering if I'm the only one. I just noticed because there area lot of responses to test messages that I don't see, then there are responses to responses to my messages. I didn't see the oriignal responses... It could be Hub 2, don't know.

    This is test 2. This message is going via hub3.

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Al on Tue Feb 13 20:55:03 2024
    On 12 Feb 2024 at 11:45p, Al pondered and said...

    I am getting an error ATM connecting to hub 1 but you should see all
    three messages is good time.

    My bad, I had BinkD down, trying to build HPT etc. and failing badly at it.

    Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

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  • From Al@21:4/106 to Avon on Tue Feb 13 00:21:18 2024
    I am getting an error ATM connecting to hub 1 but you should see all
    three messages is good time.

    My bad, I had BinkD down, trying to build HPT etc. and failing badly at it.

    No worries, all is well.

    Let me know if I can help with your new husky build.

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  • From Shurato@21:2/148 to Al on Tue Feb 13 02:14:00 2024

    I wonder if you are not getting some messages for some reason?

    If that is the case we need to figure out why and take steps so that
    doesn't happen.

    Agreed. I'm wondering if I'm the only one. I just noticed because
    there
    area lot of responses to test messages that I don't see, then there are
    responses to responses to my messages. I didn't see the oriignal
    responses... It could be Hub 2, don't know.

    This is test 3. This message is going out via hub4.

    See it.


    I am getting an error ATM connecting to hub 1 but you should see all three messages is good time.

    Let me know if you see them.

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  • From Shurato@21:2/148 to Al on Tue Feb 13 02:14:00 2024

    I wonder if you are not getting some messages for some reason?

    If that is the case we need to figure out why and take steps so that
    doesn't happen.

    Agreed. I'm wondering if I'm the only one. I just noticed because
    there
    area lot of responses to test messages that I don't see, then there are
    responses to responses to my messages. I didn't see the oriignal
    responses... It could be Hub 2, don't know.

    Here is test number 1. This message is only being sent to hub 1. I am also going to send a message via hub 3 and 4.

    See it.


    Let me know if you see them. Hopefully you will see them all.

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  • From Shurato@21:2/148 to Al on Tue Feb 13 04:57:00 2024

    I wonder if you are not getting some messages for some reason?

    If that is the case we need to figure out why and take steps so that
    doesn't happen.

    Agreed. I'm wondering if I'm the only one. I just noticed because
    there
    area lot of responses to test messages that I don't see, then there are
    responses to responses to my messages. I didn't see the oriignal
    responses... It could be Hub 2, don't know.

    This is test 2. This message is going via hub3.

    See it.

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  • From Al@21:4/106 to Shurato on Tue Feb 13 05:02:04 2024
    This is test 2. This message is going via hub3.

    See it.

    Good you did get it after a while. That still leaves the original question of why you are missing some messages.

    If you can track it, it would be good to know the node number of the messages that are missed so we can try to follow up along the expected path.

    I know it is not easy to tell the node/net numbers of messages you missed but if you can do that it would give us something to look at.

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  • From Shurato@21:2/148 to Al on Tue Feb 13 16:37:00 2024
    I missed 21:1/105's post to the space echo.

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  • From Al@21:4/106 to Shurato on Wed Feb 14 00:43:22 2024
    I missed 21:1/105's post to the space echo.

    I see three messages from 21:1/105 yesterday. You only got two of them?

    It's bad that this happens. I wonder if all nodes in net 2 are affected.

    These kind of details are helpful.

    I wonder if there is a BBS at 21:2/100 where we can log in and have a look?

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