Oli wrote to All <=-
More than just physical wire differentiated these rural telephone
systems and their more formal urban counterparts. Without switchboards, without individual lines, and without telephone fees, the barbed wire telephone system became its own social network. [...]"
Full article from 2014: https://gizmodo.com/barbed-wire-fences-were-an-early-diy-telephone-netwo rk-1493157700
An article about DIY rural telephone system, partially using barbed wire as cable. I wonder if there ever was a BBS than ran over barbed wire ;)
An article about DIY rural telephone system, partially using barbed w as cable. I wonder if there ever was a BBS than ran over barbed wire
Whoa, that's cool. And I would guess that whenever someone was ringing someone else, a side effect would be that the barbed-wire fence became
an electric barbed=wire fence.
An article about DIY rural telephone system, partially using bar as cable. I wonder if there ever was a BBS than ran over barbed
Whoa, that's cool. And I would guess that whenever someone was ringin someone else, a side effect would be that the barbed-wire fence becam an electric barbed=wire fence.
Hahaha! That would be funny as hell! "Hello?" BZZZZZT! "$#&@!!!"
Unfortunately, I don't think it's realistic. The amount of energy
wouldn't likely be high enough to be palpable.
Also, how's that $10 Pi-based BBS coming along, Jeffie? (^_^)/
Also, how's that $10 Pi-based BBS coming along, Jeffie? (^_^)/
Excellent, thanks for asking! It's going so well that I actually had a Pi left over!
Also, how's that $10 Pi-based BBS coming along, Jeffie? (^_^)/
Excellent, thanks for asking! It's going so well that I actually had left over!
Really? You built a Pi-based BBS for $10, and managed to somehow have a second Pi left over? I'm afraid the math doesn't add up on that one...unless you either didn't stay in-budget, or didn't actually use a Pi. It's okay, nobody's perfect.
Also, how's that $10 Pi-based BBS coming along, Jeffie? (^_
Excellent, thanks for asking! It's going so well that I actually left over!
Really? You built a Pi-based BBS for $10, and managed to somehow have second Pi left over? I'm afraid the math doesn't add up on that one...unless you either didn't stay in-budget, or didn't actually use Pi. It's okay, nobody's perfect.
Your nonsense means nothing here, I;m afraid.
Really? You built a Pi-based BBS for $10, and managed to somehow second Pi left over? I'm afraid the math doesn't add up on that one...unless you either didn't stay in-budget, or didn't actuall Pi. It's okay, nobody's perfect.
Your nonsense means nothing here, I;m afraid.
Whatever do you mean? The only nonsense is saying that one built a $10 Pi-based BBS, and then had a Pi left over.
Jeff wrote to McDoob <=-
On 18 Feb 2022, McDoob said the following...
Also, how's that $10 Pi-based BBS coming along, Jeffie? (^_^)/
Excellent, thanks for asking! It's going so well that I actually had left over!
Really? You built a Pi-based BBS for $10, and managed to somehow have a second Pi left over? I'm afraid the math doesn't add up on that one...unless you either didn't stay in-budget, or didn't actually use a Pi. It's okay, nobody's perfect.
Your nonsense means nothing here, I;m afraid.
I am able to follow it, just by what you have quoted. For some reason, his messages on the subject have not arrived. <shrugs>
Your nonsense means nothing here, I;m afraid.
Whatever do you mean? The only nonsense is saying that one built a $10
Pi-based BBS, and then had a Pi left over.
Plans change. It turns out that a Pi isn't even needed to deploy a sub-$10 BBS. I went into some detail about how to do it in another echo, on another
net, as I'm sure you're aware.
On 18 Feb 2022, McDoob said the following...
Also, how's that $10 Pi-based BBS coming along, Jeffie? (^_
Excellent, thanks for asking! It's going so well that I actually left over!
Really? You built a Pi-based BBS for $10, and managed to somehow have second Pi left over? I'm afraid the math doesn't add up on that one...unless you either didn't stay in-budget, or didn't actually use Pi. It's okay, nobody's perfect.
Your nonsense means nothing here, I;m afraid.
I am able to follow it, just by what you have quoted. For some reason, his messages on the subject have not arrived. <shrugs>
I am able to follow it, just by what you have quoted. For some reaso his messages on the subject have not arrived. <shrugs>
This conversation has been going on for the past three or four days now, but on Fidonet. When Jeffie lost that debate, he came here. I'm just trying to keep him honest. (o_-)
Plans change. It turns out that a Pi isn't even needed to deploy a su BBS. I went into some detail about how to do it in another echo, on another
net, as I'm sure you're aware.
Please can we not have this nonsense polluting this Echo as well?
"McDoob" is attempting to harass me by bringing another discussion, from another echo, on another net, here.
An article about DIY rural telephone system, partially using
barbed w as cable. I wonder if there ever was a BBS than ran
over barbed wire
Whoa, that's cool. And I would guess that whenever someone was
ringing someone else, a side effect would be that the barbed-wire
fence became an electric barbed=wire fence.
Hahaha! That would be funny as hell! "Hello?" BZZZZZT! "$#&@!!!"
Unfortunately, I don't think it's realistic. The amount of energy wouldn't likely be high enough to be palpable.
Unfortunately, I don't think it's realistic. The amount of energy woul likely be high enough to be palpable.
Are you sure?
"A ring generator or ringing voltage generator is a device which outputs 20 cycle sinusoidal AC at up to 110 volts peak to power bells or annunciators in one or more telephone extensions." (from Wikipedia)
"A ring generator or ringing voltage generator is a device which outputs 20 cycle sinusoidal AC at up to 110 volts peak to power bells or annunciators in one or more telephone extensions." (from Wikipedia)
It won't hurt badly, but it's not nothing. Also we don't know what
device they used for ringing, but it needed enough power to ring all the phones.
Unfortunately, I don't think it's realistic. The amount of energy
wouldn't likely be high enough to be palpable.
Unfortunately, I don't think it's realistic. The amount of energy wouldn't likely be high enough to be palpable.
Do a search for, "the phone only rings when the dog barks."
I had this crazy notion...
I'm running a BBS... on a computer!
*waits for minds to be blown*
phigan wrote to McDoob <=-
I'm running a BBS... on a computer!
We were all REAL SYSOPS when I started out. My first BBS ran on anI ran mine on a 386/33 in 1996.
abacus I
had mounted on the wall in my trophy room.
I had this crazy notion...
I'm running a BBS... on a computer!
*waits for minds to be blown*
As opposed to... what? What else would you run a BBS on?
As opposed to... what? What else would you run a BBS on?
An article about DIY rural telephone system, partially using barbed wire a cable. I wonder if there ever was a BBS than ran over barbed wire ;)
"Before Ma Bell came to town, and long before DSL, it was barbed wire, of things, that brought rural communities together. A Sears telephone hooked barbed wire - miles of which were already conveniently strung along fences connected far-flung ranches in the recently settled American west. Thus an ingenious and unregulated telephone system sprung up a hundred years ago.
hyjinx wrote to Oli <=-
I mean, that's awesome and all, but if the phone system in USA is
anything like the UK phone system, then standard volage is +50volts and ringer is 100V, so you wouldn't want to be touching it when a call was being established!
But yes, great ingenuity is often spurned out of
necessity. It was for this very reason that I used to use a 'cantenna'
for my early internet access in Edinburgh. I set up a dipole antenna
with a pringles can and got reasonably good (say 128k in 1999/2000) bandwidth, stealing it courtesy of some rebels at Edinburgh University. This was in the days that even achieving 56K V90 was pretty much impossible in most exchanges in the area.
for my early internet access in Edinburgh. I set up a dipole antenna
with a pringles can and got reasonably good (say 128k in 1999/2000) bandwidth, stealing it courtesy of some rebels at Edinburgh
University. This was in the days that even achieving 56K V90 was
Strickly speeking, the ol' pringles can be a waveguide antenna less I be sadly 'staken. Do you guys have different pringles containers to us? Ours are just cardboard tubes with a metal cap on one end, and lined
with metallic ink liner... nothing much to guide any wayward waves in...
I messed around with cans for a bit, and then gave it away in favour of kitchen equipment, like the collander... got much better results.
I mean, that's awesome and all, but if the phone system in USA is
anything like the UK phone system, then standard volage is +50volts and ringer is 100V, so you wouldn't want to be touching it when a call was being established!
I mean, that's awesome and all, but if the phone system in USA is anything like the UK phone system, then standard volage is +50volts a ringer is 100V, so you wouldn't want to be touching it when a call wa being established!
Blah, we prolly suck there too - electric kettles are slow and suck @ 110V. :P
Oh, is *that* why most of you 'mericans don't know what a Kettle is?!
On 07 Jun 2022, paulie420 said the following...
I mean, that's awesome and all, but if the phone system in USA i anything like the UK phone system, then standard volage is +50vo ringer is 100V, so you wouldn't want to be touching it when a ca being established!
Blah, we prolly suck there too - electric kettles are slow and suck @ 110V. :P
Oh, is *that* why most of you 'mericans don't know what a Kettle is?!
Oh, is *that* why most of you 'mericans don't know what a Kettle is?! Seriously I watched a YT video the other day where this guy asked random Americans what a kettle was and they all had no idea. I just find it completely bizarre!
k9zw wrote to hyjinx <=-
When our British house was restored we included in our budget, mostly
for grins, a line item for Builder's Tea
I mean, that's awesome and all, but if the phone system in USA is anything like the UK phone system, then standard volage is +50volts a ringer is 100V, so you wouldn't want to be touching it when a call wa being established!
Blah, we prolly suck there too - electric kettles are slow and suck @ 110V. :P
Oh, is *that* why most of you 'mericans don't know what a Kettle is?!
Where I come from.. a kettle is something that you fill with water, and bang on the stove, or another heat source to boil and 95% of the time
has a whistle on it so you know its boiled.
The leccy thing on the other hand is usually a Jug... with all the usual leccy things going on, turns itself off.. in the days of my youth there wa the odd electric kettle around... The last one I saw was my grandmothers.. looked like a traditional kettle, with a whistle no less... I don't think actually turned itself off either, but... its got to be the better part 45 years or more since I saw it.
Oh, is *that* why most of you 'mericans don't know what a Kettle is?! Seriously I watched a YT video the other day where this guy asked ran Americans what a kettle was and they all had no idea. I just find it
I saw a similar (maybe the same) video recently. But one must remember that coffee is the dominant hot drink in North America, not tea. Almost everyone here has a coffee maker, but not a tea kettle.
So slow. So inefficient. So noisy ;) The civilised world got rid of them some 50-60 years ago <g>.
Some (generally Northern English) people also say 'put the jug on', but I
Imagine a world without Kettles... whoa!
I saw a similar (maybe the same) video recently. But one must remember that coffee is the dominant hot drink in North America, not tea. Almost everyone here has a coffee maker, but not a tea kettle.
hyjinx wrote to McDoob <=-
Yeah, but I also use my kettle for making hot water for stock, for
cooking rice and noodles, or for other non tea-drinks that require hot water. It's a lot faster than boiling it on the stove. My kettle
probably gets used minimum 4-5 times a day. If I'm in a UK household, where tea is properly going, it's probably like 10 times a day lol.
Spectre wrote to hyjinx <=-
Some would say the world lost some of its civilisation... :P Speaking
of my grandmother... she had ye olde standard kettle that she'd put on
the wood stove... the "leccy kettle" looks the same, save its powered
by spare electrons.
Spectre wrote to McDoob <=-
Civilisation is slipping.. but one must ask the more critical question, one can make hot water in a kettle, jug, or even a pot, but who has a teapot. There is no tea like the tea you get out of a good teapot. :)
On Mon Jun 20 09:36:00 2022, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Spectre <=-
Some would say the world lost some of its civilisation... :P Speaking of my grandmother... she had ye olde standard kettle that she'd put on the wood stove... the "leccy kettle" looks the same, save its powered by spare electrons.
One sleep-deprived morning, as my infant daughter had kept us awake multiple
times over the night, I took the electric kettle, filled it with water, then
placed it on the stove. :(
Yeah, but I also use my kettle for making hot water for stock, for
cooking rice and noodles, or for other non tea-drinks that require hot water. It's a lot faster than boiling it on the stove. My kettle
probably gets used minimum 4-5 times a day. If I'm in a UK household, where tea is properly going, it's probably like 10 times a day lol.
Hot tea for my English wife, iced tea for me - we use ours heavily, too.
One sleep-deprived morning, as my infant daughter had kept us awake multiple times over the night, I took the electric kettle, filled
it with water, then placed it on the stove. :(
My wife and her friends all make builders tea. Get the biggest mugs we have, make it strong, add milk and sugar. Repeat as necessary.
PG Tips or Yorkshire gold, only.
ACMEBBS wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
Hate to ask this...but am going to. Did you turn on the burner under
the kettle or plug it in? Curious minds want to know. ;)
Turned the heat on, melted a perfectly good kettle. :(
Ford Prefect wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
Re: Re: barbed wire telephony
By: poindexter FORTRAN to ACMEBBS on Tue Jun 21 2022 06:19 am
Turned the heat on, melted a perfectly good kettle. :(
We have a number of heat resistant spatulas. Apparently, when
left on the heating surface of the stove, they are not as heat
resistant as labeled. :)
On Tue Jun 21 06:19:00 2022, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to ACMEBBS <=-
Hate to ask this...but am going to. Did you turn on the burner under the kettle or plug it in? Curious minds want to know. ;)
Turned the heat on, melted a perfectly good kettle. :(
Ford Prefect wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
Re: Re: barbed wire telephony
By: poindexter FORTRAN to ACMEBBS on Tue Jun 21 2022 06:19 am
We have a number of heat resistant spatulas. Apparently, when left on
the heating surface of the stove, they are not as heat resistant as labeled. :)
Civilisation is slipping.. but one must ask the more critical question, one can make hot water in a kettle, jug, or even a pot, but who has a teapot. There is no tea like the tea you get out of a good teapot. :)
My wife and her friends all make builders tea. Get the biggest mugs we have, make it strong, add milk and sugar. Repeat as necessary.
PG Tips or Yorkshire gold, only.
Spectre wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
I don't know Yorkshire gold or it turns out after investigation PG Tips either... here we have the standard pretty much as Liptons, although
the missus has struck a liking for Twinings Strong English Breakfast.
Used to be a lot more brands once... my mother would buy packets of
tea, they came with collector cards, a bit like ye olde cigarette cards
in them. Tynee Tips, comes to mind.. most seem to have disappeared now though.
Ford Prefect wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
We have a number of heat resistant spatulas. Apparently, when left on
the heating surface of the stove, they are not as heat resistant as labeled. :)
ACMEBBS wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
Sounds like something I might do when I'm not paying attention. Sorry
to hear that about any appliance.
Grimpen wrote to Poindexter Fortran <=-
Builder's style tea for my wife as well. I usually use one of those
tea mugs with the built in strainer and use leaf tea. Just had some Yorkshire Gold a couple of hours ago! Typhoo Extra Strong is the next
box of bagged tea. Actually got a box of "Builder's Tea" branded tea
once. Decent. Lipton's, not so much, you might sayau| it wasn't my
cup of tea.
Gamgee wrote to Ford Prefect <=-
We have a number of heat resistant spatulas. Apparently, when
left on the heating surface of the stove, they are not as heat
resistant as labeled. :)
Have you tried it with a non-heat-resistant spatula? ;-)
I spent last week at Russian River, near the Napa valley wine region in California. A quaint little town called Duncan's Mills has a great little tea shop, with a web site aptly named duncansmillsteashop.com.
We bought a lot of tea there - I bought some lapsang souchong and black current black tea, my daughter bought a citrus green tea and a lavender citrus herbal tea.
I should have picked up some Irish breakfast tea while I was there.
We have a number of heat resistant spatulas. Apparently, when left
on the heating surface of the stove, they are not as heat resistant
as labeled. :)
Time to load up the kids in the car and take a trip to SPATULA CITY!
Time to load up the kids in the car and take a trip to SPATULA CITY!
On Thu Jun 23 08:27:00 2022, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to ACMEBBS <=-
Sounds like something I might do when I'm not paying attention. Sorry to hear that about any appliance.Thanks, it was a nice Breville kettle, too. We replaced it with a no-name cheapie (this was in 2010) which just failed, to be replaced with another no-name kettle.
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