In the oven it went. 8 minutes later I took it out. Let it cool for about 45 minutes and then re-assembled the cooling
part/brackets etc. Placed it in my computer and viola! It worked and the display was clear of any artifacts!
So I've been building a (not quite yet) retro computer for circa 2004-2007 P games. Trying to get ahead of prices before this era becomes nostalgic lol. Anyway, the Nvidia 8800 GTX (a high end card for the time) arrived yesterday but had vertical lines on the display and crashed Windows (XP 32-bit) after or 15 minutes.
Being an older card (2006 I believe) but well into the Internet age there we many search results for that card and lines on the display. I started seein people claiming you could fix it by baking it in the oven. The cards get ver hot and the solder joints crack. But this is mostly surface mount components making it hard for someone with just a regular soldering iron to fix.
I was a bit skeptical that it would solve the problem but I had nothing to l (wasn't going to get a refund with shipping on this old card). So I removed giant heatsink/fan combo and cleaned the board (lint, thermal paste etc). Th I pre-heated the oven to 385F, place the card (GPU side up) on a baking shee I put four small tinfoil balls (about 3/4" in height) between the baking she and the card.
In the oven it went. 8 minutes later I took it out. Let it cool for about 45 minutes and then re-assembled the cooling part/brackets etc. Placed it in my computer and viola! It worked and the display was clear of any artifacts!
I wouldn't do this with older retro circuits as they tend to be rarer and without surface mounts you can re-flow the solder by hand. But I can see mor people baking circuits in the future!
That process is called "rebailing" and, as far as I have heard, it works in a pitch but the component so fixed won't last lont anyway.
I was a bit skeptical that it would solve the problem but I had nothing
to lose (wasn't going to get a refund with shipping on this old card).
So I removed the giant heatsink/fan combo and cleaned the board (lint, thermal paste etc). Then I pre-heated the oven to 385F, place the card (GPU side up) on a baking sheet. I put four small tinfoil balls (about 3/4" in height) between the baking sheet and the card.
In the oven it went. 8 minutes later I took it out. Let it cool for
about 45 minutes and then re-assembled the cooling part/brackets etc. Placed it in my computer and viola! It worked and the display was clear
of any artifacts
On 10 Feb 2022 at 09:12a, Arelor pondered and said...
That process is called "rebailing" and, as far as I have heard, it work in a pitch but the component so fixed won't last lont anyway.
Why do you say the component won't last long?
Why do you say the component won't last long?
Just what I have heard from people doing rebailing themselves.
But then, the people doing rebailing who I know are the sort that put the components to the limit. That is why they need rebailing in the first place.
By: tenser to Arelor on Fri Feb 11 2022 07:32 am
Why do you say the component won't last long?
Just what I have heard from people doing rebailing themselves.
On 02-10-22 09:12, Arelor wrote to Otto Reverse <=-
In the oven it went. 8 minutes later I took it out. Let it cool for about 45 minutes and then re-assembled the cooling part/brackets etc. Placed it in my computer and viola! It worked and the display was clear of any artifacts!
I wouldn't do this with older retro circuits as they tend to be rarer and without surface mounts you can re-flow the solder by hand. But I can see mor people baking circuits in the future!
That process is called "rebailing" and, as far as I have heard, it
works in a pitch but the component so fixed won't last lont anyway.
IN any case, enjoy it while it lasts \o/
On 02-11-22 05:15, Arelor wrote to tenser <=-
Why do you say the component won't last long?
Just what I have heard from people doing rebailing themselves.
Wow, what a way to resurrect a card. I've got a GTX 285 that might need to go in the oven!
Just curious, what OS are you going to run? I can see why someone might want a "retro" machine that can run DOS natively, with a SB compatible sound card, etc, but the early 2000s, I would imagine most of that software is still compatible with modern hardware?
XP. I wanted to run SP2 but needed SP3 for compatible GeForce drivers with my model of card. Kept strictly offline of course lol.
I was playing around with NHL 2004 Rebuilt (some people have been
modding this particular game continuously for nearly 2 decades now) and while it can be made to run on Win 10, it runs natively of course on XP. There are other issues to with some older games that won't work (without hacks) on wide screen monitors. Not that that has anything to do with
OS.
I just got started with this era, thinking I would get ahead of the
curve for a change with what is "retro" and highly sought after on eBay. That way I could avoid the high prices. The system is a little overkill for the era (early dual core cpu and the 8800 graphics card) but that allows me to run all the graphics maxed. Been fun so far.
I just use Proton for Windows games, and most I want to play have Linux ports. What I miss the most is the CRT screen, THAT makes a difference,
a CRT feels retro. I do have a couple of them.
Good idea, second hard PC's are a bit harder to find than they used to
be. I have one or two that were picked up from the roadside years ago.
My newest "retro" PC is an AMD Duron 700MHz with 768M RAM, GeForce 2 graphics card and SB Awe64, running Windows 98. It can run DOS games
just fine with sound and has a 3 1/2 and 5 1/4 inch drives. The older ones are 486's and an XT, but that is missing parts.
My current system will run anything after that era with Wine/Proton
which is good enough now. I'm really only interested in older games,
not older software (I don't feel the need to run Office 2003 or eDonkey) and for me Wine/Proton is basically the same as having that slightly
older PC because the hardware is the same.
I have a 17" CRT but the thing takes up a ton of space ("back in the
day" I had a 19" ViewSonic) and I'd rather a 14" or 15" at this point.
But they just don't show up for sale locally.
Roadside pickups haven't been a thing here (Nova Scotia) for a decade or more. The provincial government made "recycling" mandatory. The thrift shops avoided them like the plague after that as they would be
responsible for recycling if a donation was unsellable. The recycling depots won't let you take anything that someone has dropped off either. So from about 2010 or so onwards all these older PC's just ended up
being shipped off to some third world nation. The thrift stores are starting to take older PC's now. Pentium 4 and up it seems. But still, there aren't many.
Nice. I bought a GeForce 2 online recently but it has lines and needs baking lol. A project for another time.
lol, c'mon. eDonkey via Proton is a must have!
I had a 20inch Trintro flat screen CRT. 1600x1200. It weighed as much
as the desk, but was quite an awesome screen. Sadly it died and I moved
In Melbourne, Australia, it's against council regulation to pick up hard rubbish from the street. Another one of the stupid laws we have here. People will dump garbage on the street to go into landfill, but you're
not allowed to take it to give it a second life. The same people who
ban this will talk about sustainability etc. Still, we pick stuff up
but computers are rare now.
Annoying, some people would cut the cables off their monitors. Don't
know why. Maybe the wanted to salvage a small bit of copper, or maybe they were petty knobs who didn't want other people being able to use it.
That must have been one sweet monitor. Those Trinitrons were some of the best tubes (tv or monitor) out there.
From the "Hi, we're from the government and we're hear to help" file. Seems to be universal the world over.
Yeah I've seen that here too. I always thought it was businesses
disposing of them and because they were once depreciable assets that
they got zero bucks for when they "disposed" of them, they cut the cords to prevent a "scrounger" from getting any value out of it. Petty indeed.
In Melbourne, Australia, it's against council regulation to pick up hard rubbish from the street. Another one of the stupid laws we have here. People will dump garbage on the street to go into landfill, but you'reTalk to your councilors to see about having a swap shop to get certain unwanted technology a second life to have some sustainablity. Call your Lord Mayor and let her know what you feel.
not allowed to take it to give it a second life. The same people who
ban this will talk about sustainability etc. Still, we pick stuff up
but computers are rare now.
In Melbourne, Australia, it's against council regulation to pick up har rubbish from the street. Another one of the stupid laws we have here. People will dump garbage on the street to go into landfill, but you're not allowed to take it to give it a second life. The same people who ban this will talk about sustainability etc. Still, we pick stuff up but computers are rare now.Talk to your councilors to see about having a swap shop to get certain unwanted technology a second life to have some sustainablity. Call your Lord Mayor and let her know what you feel.
boraxman wrote to Utopian Galt <=-
We do have computer swap meets where this can happen, but COVID restrictions have severely limited the number of those swap meets.
They've only just started back upon, and only in some places.
On 02-27-22 07:42, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to boraxman <=-
I miss those days - back in the late '80s computer swap meets were a
great place to get computer parts. Lots of suspect used parts, lots of haggling.
I upgraded an XT clone to an AT clone and bought a new motherboard, keyboard, memory, multi-io card and put it all together over a weekend. First time opening a computer, ever.
I miss those days - back in the late '80s computer swap meets were a
great place to get computer parts. Lots of suspect used parts, lots of haggling.
I upgraded an XT clone to an AT clone and bought a new motherboard, keyboard, memory, multi-io card and put it all together over a weekend. First time opening a computer, ever.
boraxman wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
I'm envious of those large warehouses you have in the US full of old stuff. I desperately want to get missing parts for my XT system. That
was the Cadillac of PC's.
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