• anyone uses FreeDOS?

    From mary4@21:1/166 to All on Fri Jun 28 11:08:05 2024
    i am curious if anyone uses this os on their old systems

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  • From kirkspragg@21:2/150 to mary4 on Thu Jun 27 18:46:22 2024
    i am curious if anyone uses this os on their old systems

    I tried it out a while back on a couple of XT class systems and dropped it for MS DOS 6.22 for a couple of reasons:
    1 - Conventional memory use was higher the DOS 6.22
    2 - I kept running into extra stuff the Freedos provides over MSDOS that wouldn't run due to needing a 386 to work & was just taking up space.
    3 - I have no idea why, but I just could not get anything that provided network drives to work. I tried XFS, Lantastic the novell netware client for DOS & none of them could successfully mount network drives when running in Freedos.

    I have not tried it on my 286 machine though. I am pretty happy with MS DOS, but I might give PC DOS 7 (IBM's dos) a go as it is supposed use even less conventional memory than MS DOS 6.

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  • From mary4@21:1/166 to kirkspragg on Fri Jun 28 12:21:26 2024
    i really hate the 386 only software like the bloody defragger and yeah the command.com uses a bunch of ram i stuck with 4dos which i think might use less ram

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  • From kirkspragg@21:2/150 to mary4 on Fri Jun 28 03:44:49 2024
    i really hate the 386 only software like the bloody defragger and yeah
    the command.com uses a bunch of ram i stuck with 4dos which i think
    might use less ram

    I know! The defragger of all things! How rude!

    I am not using 4dos ATM but its on my list of things to play with.

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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to mary4 on Fri Jun 28 22:47:00 2024
    i am curious if anyone uses this os on their old systems

    That's a negative. Actually never seen it.


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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to kirkspragg on Fri Jun 28 22:57:00 2024
    needing a 386 to work & was just taking up space. 3 - I have no idea
    why, but I just could not get anything that provided network drives
    to work. I tried XFS, Lantastic the novell netware client for DOS
    & none of them could successfully mount network drives when running
    in Freedos.

    I wonder if it would mount CD-drives. One would have to guess the system
    hooks for networking either don't work the same way or are in a different location. MSCDEX looks like a network driver to DOS.

    Spec


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  • From Ben Collver@21:2/101 to mary4 on Fri Jun 28 11:05:15 2024
    Re: anyone uses FreeDOS?
    By: mary4 to All on Fri Jun 28 2024 11:08:05

    i am curious if anyone uses this os on their old systems

    I am using FreeDOS on two systems.

    A 1995 desktop with a Pentium processor and 32 MB memory.

    A 2005 laptop with a Pentium-M processor and 512 MB memory.

    They are both networked through a serial port and sneakernet.

    I use FreeDOS because i like that it comes with source code.
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  • From mary4@21:1/166 to kirkspragg on Wed Jul 3 01:01:32 2024
    I know! The defragger of all things! How rude!

    i know right?

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  • From mary4@21:1/166 to Spectre on Wed Jul 3 01:07:10 2024
    That's a negative. Actually never seen it.

    try it out u can do some crazy stuff on it like fat 32 on 16bit computers

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  • From mary4@21:1/166 to Ben Collver on Wed Jul 3 01:10:30 2024
    I am using FreeDOS on two systems.

    A 1995 desktop with a Pentium processor and 32 MB memory.

    wow!!!
    A 2005 laptop with a Pentium-M processor and 512 MB memory.

    NICE!!
    They are both networked through a serial port and sneakernet.

    eh u can us2e serial port for networking!? how?
    I use FreeDOS because i like that it comes with source code.
    SAME! <3 <3 <3 <3

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  • From Ben Collver@21:2/101 to mary4 on Tue Jul 2 10:28:02 2024
    Re: Re: anyone uses FreeDOS?
    By: mary4 to Ben Collver on Wed Jul 03 2024 01:10:30

    They are both networked through a serial port and sneakernet.

    eh u can us2e serial port for networking!? how?

    I normally use kermit. In the 90's i used dosppp.

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  • From mary4@21:1/166 to Ben Collver on Wed Jul 3 02:26:50 2024
    They are both networked through a serial port and sneakernet.

    eh u can us2e serial port for networking!? how?

    I normally use kermit. In the 90's i used dosppp.


    kermit? dosapp?? sneakernet?

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  • From bbsing@21:1/172 to mary4 on Sat Sep 7 02:50:22 2024
    On 28 Jun 2024, mary4 said the following...

    i am curious if anyone uses this os on their old systems


    I just installed it on my HP t510.

    I have a ways to go to get networking up. Lots to learn there.

    I hope it can actually get online and make a connection to the internet.

    I've recently built an mgetty system with a modem through an ATA, but I don't have to use the modem to get my FreeDOS system online.

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  • From bbsing@21:1/172 to Ben Collver on Sat Sep 7 02:55:51 2024
    On 28 Jun 2024, Ben Collver said the following...

    Re: anyone uses FreeDOS?
    By: mary4 to All on Fri Jun 28 2024 11:08:05


    I am using FreeDOS on two systems.

    A 1995 desktop with a Pentium processor and 32 MB memory.

    A 2005 laptop with a Pentium-M processor and 512 MB memory.

    They are both networked through a serial port and sneakernet.

    I use FreeDOS because i like that it comes with source code.

    Hi Ben,

    Do your systems have network cards?

    Did you attempt to get tcp/ip working with them with FreeDOS?

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  • From hollowone@21:2/150 to bbsing on Sat Nov 2 11:57:48 2024
    i am curious if anyone uses this os on their old systems
    I just installed it on my HP t510.

    I have it on my old iMac2011. It worked fine but I haven't used it on daily basis for a long time.. like 5 years or so.. But when I did, I liked to call it HackinDOS ;)

    -h1

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  • From bbsing@21:1/172 to hollowone on Sun Nov 3 23:59:01 2024
    On 02 Nov 2024, hollowone said the following...

    i am curious if anyone uses this os on their old systems
    I just installed it on my HP t510.

    I have it on my old iMac2011. It worked fine but I haven't used it on daily basis for a long time.. like 5 years or so.. But when I did, I
    liked to call it HackinDOS ;)

    i think its a nice OS and i like some of the features. I gave up on the networking part of it for a bit and went to MSDOS. I was pretty confused on how to use FreeDOS and the documentation just wasn't saying enough for me. Now that I learned a bit more about how to make MSDOS use ethernet I think I may give it a try again. MSDOS documentation is gone now days, but I found enough online with an OK example to get my system online.

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  • From hollowone@21:2/150 to bbsing on Mon Nov 4 06:29:15 2024
    MSDOS documentation is gone
    now days, but I found enough online with an OK example to get my system online.

    With the concept of Shadow Libraries plus AO's books there is a lot of forgotten knowledge available again and because those were once commercially published books, quality and structure is very well thought out usually.

    I relearned TASM's IDEAL mode thanks to one of those books.

    I've learned about packet drivers and custom TCP stack solutions purely from online resources still being actively maintained by various individuals.

    If you have any specific question, shoot, maybe I have found the answer already. I've been playing with DOS on almost daily basis for 3-4 years already. Staying loyal to 6.22 as my basis.

    -h1

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  • From bbsing@21:1/172 to hollowone on Tue Nov 12 00:08:58 2024
    With the concept of Shadow Libraries plus AO's books there is a lot of
    I've never heard of Shadow Libraries, or AO's books. Are AD's books meaning 1980's books?

    forgotten knowledge available again and because those were once
    commercially published books, quality and structure is very well thought
    out usually.

    Yes back before computers were everywhere the books were a lot more detailed.

    I relearned TASM's IDEAL mode thanks to one of those books.
    If you have any specific question, shoot, maybe I have found the answer already. I've been playing with DOS on almost daily basis for 3-4 years already. Staying loyal to 6.22 as my basis.

    Hard to find those books, and knowledge.

    What are your favorite resources?

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  • From hollowone@21:2/150 to bbsing on Tue Nov 12 12:31:11 2024
    With the concept of Shadow Libraries plus AO's books there is a lot o
    I've never heard of Shadow Libraries, or AO's books. Are AD's books meaning 1980's books?

    Re: Shadow Libraries

    https://greycoder.com/a-list-of-the-largest-shadow-libraries/

    Best equipped today is Anna's Archive. I liked Z-Library before but now it's full of scam.

    AO => Archive Online (www.archive.org) of course.

    If you search both, you can find a lot of interesting books for free (of course legality of such download can be discussed on per country's local laws/interpretations.

    -h1

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  • From bbsing@21:1/172 to hollowone on Sat Nov 23 01:42:21 2024
    On 12 Nov 2024, hollowone said the following...

    With the concept of Shadow Libraries plus AO's books there is a
    I've never heard of Shadow Libraries, or AO's books. Are AD's books meaning 1980's books?

    Re: Shadow Libraries

    https://greycoder.com/a-list-of-the-largest-shadow-libraries/

    Best equipped today is Anna's Archive. I liked Z-Library before but now
    What an awesome resource!
    Thank you.



    it's full of scam.

    AO => Archive Online (www.archive.org) of course.

    If you search both, you can find a lot of interesting books for free (of course legality of such download can be discussed on per country's local laws/interpretations.

    I'm going to try and get the MS-DOS Bible :)

    See whats in that about the networking and memory management.

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