Not sure if it counts at retro computing, but it's GUI is very mid 90s:

"SerenityOS is a love letter to '90s user interfaces with a custom Unix-like core. It flatters with sincerity by stealing beautiful ideas from various other systems. Roughly speaking, the goal is a marriage between the aesthetic of late-1990s productivity software and the power-user accessibility of late-2000s *nix. This is a system by us, for us, based on the things we like."

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/08/not-a-linux-distro-review-serenityos-is-a-unix-y-love-letter-to-the-90s/


I never thought the Windows 95 / NT GUI was beautiful, but it reminds me how much I hate today's flat-style ever-changing user interfaces. What's your favorite desktop environment?

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Am 21.08.21 schrieb Oli@21:3/102 in FSX_RETRO:

Hallo Oli,

I never thought the Windows 95 / NT GUI was beautiful, but it reminds me
how much I hate today's flat-style ever-changing user interfaces. What's your favorite desktop environment?

I loved the Workplace Shell that OS/2 used, and OpenWindows on Solaris
(not to be confused with CDE) - OpenLook (the GUI toolkit) had many very clever widgets.

Regards,
Anna

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Oli wrote to All <=-

I never thought the Windows 95 / NT GUI was beautiful, but it reminds
me how much I hate today's flat-style ever-changing user interfaces. What's your favorite desktop environment?

IceWM.


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"SerenityOS is a love letter to '90s user interfaces with a custom Unix-like core. It flatters with sincerity by stealing beautiful ideas from various other systems. Roughly speaking, the goal is a marriage between the aesthetic of late-1990s productivity software and the power-user accessibility of late-2000s *nix. This is a system by us, for us, based on the things we like."

I saw this project a while ago, and it wasn't close to being ready to even try out or build... Somewhere I subscribed to videos of the developer showing updates that looked much different from where it sits today. Thanks for sharing, as these are the types of things I like to dig into... and it looks like its a bit more cooked than just a few months ago. :P I might have to play with it.

I never thought the Windows 95 / NT GUI was beautiful, but it reminds me how much I hate today's flat-style ever-changing user interfaces. What's your favorite desktop environment?

My current is KDE... but not because its perfect.

My all time is Windows 2000, or NT. :P

I also like MacOS - I think you can see why I landed on KDE today... as its a little of both, with 2020s styling...



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Hey paulie420;

paulie420 wrote to Oli <=-

My current is KDE... but not because its perfect.

Which KDE? I'm running TrinityDesktop which is a rewrite of KDE3 and still maintained. When KDE4 came out, it took me a while to get used to some of
it's new "toys" but eventually I came to embrace it quite a bit. The plasma desktops IMHO have a lot to be desired and are just excess resource hogs.

I started (linux wise) with WindowMaker and that was fine for a very long
time. Windows as a client - I prefer 2000's desktop. 95/98/Me seem to be
like the OS... incomplete. XP seems a bit too "cartoonish" out of the box,
and forget 10/11! Just raw bloatware at its finest. <G>

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Which KDE? I'm running TrinityDesktop which is a rewrite of KDE3 and
still maintained. When KDE4 came out, it took me a while to get used to some of it's new "toys" but eventually I came to embrace it quite a
bit. The plasma desktops IMHO have a lot to be desired and are just
excess resource hogs.

Gosh, I'm on the most current... 5.2? Something like that. :P

Yea, its 'resource hungry' but... I'm on a 12 year old laptop and - computers are so capable these days. :P

BTW, I did build Serenity... its fun. Its amazing that some guy wanting to overcome his vices [and the dev team] built this - but it is really basic still. I do like it; very Windows 2000 feeling... it was worth the 30 minutes and high temps. GO/GCC will use all your cores if you let it. LOL. I should have put a flag on that compile... it warmed up the whole room. :P



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acn wrote (2021-08-21):

What's your favorite desktop environment?

I loved the Workplace Shell that OS/2 used,

Visually my favourite was the the OS/2 2.x WPS. Best OS for a PC at that time. Maybe some day I try to run it a VM again. I wonder how it feels today.

and OpenWindows on Solaris (not to be confused with CDE) - OpenLook
(the GUI toolkit) had many very clever widgets.

Looks very retro. More practical than visually appealing (what I can tell from screenshots). I think the only short contact to a unix workstation I had was a SGI with Irix. Funny UI.

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paulie420 wrote (2021-08-21):

I saw this project a while ago, and it wasn't close to being ready to
even try out or build... Somewhere I subscribed to videos of the
developer showing updates that looked much different from where it sits today. Thanks for sharing, as these are the types of things I like to dig into... and it looks like its a bit more cooked than just a few months
ago. :P I might have to play with it.

I think I'll wait a bit longer. I hope they'll release a disk image to download.

What's your favorite desktop environment?

My current is KDE... but not because its perfect.

Yes, it's acceptable. I'm using it on my PC, but I like the Raspberry OS (LXDE) desktop better. Unfortunately Gnome/GTK seems to get more fucked up with every version. And KDE is dependent on Qt.

My all time is Windows 2000, or NT. :P

Used that too in-between OS/2,Win95 and Ubuntu.

I also like MacOS - I think you can see why I landed on KDE today... as
its a little of both, with 2020s styling...

classic Mac OS or macOS (OS X)?

I really loved the Mac OS 8 and 9 desktop. The OS was unstable and a bit shitty (despite its image), but usability and visual design were good. I also remember when I booted the leaked i386 version of OS X on my Laptop. I did run OS X for some time on my PC.

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N1uro wrote (2021-08-21):

My current is KDE... but not because its perfect.

Which KDE? I'm running TrinityDesktop which is a rewrite of KDE3 and still maintained.

I don't understand what people like about the KDE 3.x series? I despised it back in the days. I even tried Trinity recently - it still sucks. KDE 1 and 2 were great. KDE 3 was the time when GUIs became bright, colorful, animated and annoying. KDE 5 is still usable on older machines.

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Hello paulie420;

paulie420 wrote to N1uro <=-

Gosh, I'm on the most current... 5.2? Something like that. :P

Yea, its 'resource hungry' but... I'm on a 12 year old laptop and - computers are so capable these days. :P

I'm waiting for the dev team at Debian to come out with their ham-friendly version of BSD. That sounds like a very promising system.

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Hello Oli;

Oli wrote to N1uro <=-

I don't understand what people like about the KDE 3.x series? I
despised it back in the days. I even tried Trinity recently - it still sucks. KDE 1 and 2 were great. KDE 3 was the time when GUIs became
bright, colorful, animated and annoying. KDE 5 is still usable on older machines.

One I just could never get into was Gnome. I used it for a while and started
to get used to it but I still never grew fond of it.

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[SerenityOS]

I think I'll wait a bit longer. I hope they'll release a disk image to download.

Yea, it was a fun gcc build. And its pretty basic right now; basically just very core OS demos - not even real tools at this point. There IS some decent terminal level tools already, but ... well they're BUILDING the whole damn thing. Its much more impressive than TempleOS, lol...

Really neat, I wanna keep my eye on it - if this gets heavy development it could be neat for some things. I really don't NEED another OS, but it is as advertised.

I also like MacOS

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Oli wrote to All <=-

I never thought the Windows 95 / NT GUI was beautiful, but it reminds
me how much I hate today's flat-style ever-changing user interfaces. What's your favorite desktop environment?

Motif on UNIXWare, CDE on Solaris, NextStep, Litestep on Windows 95/98/2000. All sentimental favorites.




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Am 22.08.21 schrieb Oli@21:3/102 in FSX_RETRO:

Hallo Oli,

I don't understand what people like about the KDE 3.x series? I
despised it back in the days. I even tried Trinity recently - it still sucks. KDE 1 and 2 were great. KDE 3 was the time when GUIs became
bright, colorful, animated and annoying. KDE 5 is still usable on older machines.

Although I'm using KDE 5 today with the KDE Neon distribution, I really
liked KDE 3.

The main reason for me is, that in KDE 3 I really had the feeling that
almost all parts of the desktop worked together and could extend each
other. Konqueror, by that time the file manager (and much more), could be configured just like you wanted it to look and feel.
There were so much KIO plugins that just worked and were accessible
through Konqueror.
And there was KPrinter, a great frontend to all things printing that got
lost in time.

But most of all, it was a version that was developed for users that know
what they are doing and that wasn't 'dumbed-down' like many other systems.
You could change keyboard shortcuts everywhere, change toolbars, menus.
You also had many themes THAT WORKED (not only one which really works like today).

And I liked that icons etc. really had colors, it is annoyingly
compilcated to reconfigure this in modern KDE.
Humans can distinguish colors and it s*cks that today most toolbar icons
are only b/w with the thinnest lines possible.

I don't understand what you mean with "bright", as KDE 3 used gray as the main background - in contrast to a brighter white in todays Breeze theme.

Regards,
Anna

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