If you are waiting on me or would like for me to add you tothe For Honour, Galactic Dynasty or BRE inter-bbs games in fsxNet can you please reply to
this post with your wish list.

I have lost count of whom I still need to set up for what so just posting
this call out here and will endeavor to work on things tomorrow night after work.

Best, Paul

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On 26 Nov 2019 at 09:36a, Zarnock pondered and said...

Hey Paul! Could you put me down for an order of some time for yourself? You work too hard on this hobby. LOL.

Ha! Thanks you're very kind. Yeah my energy levels do go up/down a bit. Evenings seem to be full of 2-3 hours of nightly stuff related to fsxNet. For the most part that's fine but there are nights when I just take a bit of time off even if it's a for a day.

Stuff that I am working on trying to setup / test in the NET 1 HUB comes at
the expense of answering 5-6 emails asking for help or wanting to join
fsxNet etc. and that can be a juggle.

We'll get there.

I would hate to see you get yourself burnt out, you're a much needed fixture in BBS life. Thank you for all the work you do!

Thank you - I appreciate your kind feedback and support.

Best, Paul

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Re: Re: Calling all cars
By: Avon to Zarnock on Wed Nov 27 2019 02:11 pm

Stuff that I am working on trying to setup / test in the NET 1 HUB comes at the expense of answering 5-6 emails asking for help or wanting to join fsxNet etc. and that can be a juggle.

With all respect...

So over the year or so, I think Ive seen a couple of messages like this - which
I do not think is unusual, given that you have a real life outside of BBSing, but it does make me wonder why you are a bottleneck. IMHO, no single person should be a bottleneck in anything and it cannot end well in the long term.

While I believe FSX is your baby, sometimes its great to see your baby grow on their own, just like the joy you see when they start to walk, talk and no longer need nappies. (That joy may be confused with fear, when they leave the nest, but personally I'm not there yet...)

Like all hobbies, its fun to do, but that fun is only fun, when its not a chore. Workload stacking up will in time present itself as a chore.

So, I'd like to see this network scale itself to out do FN (that might be my disapointment of what I've seen FN turn into talking here as I rejoin years later after my nieve youthful days). For it to do that, I think you need to delegate, offload, give up (pick the right term?) some administrative functions
- I'm sure there are many here willing to help, myself included as I've offered in the past.
...ëîåã

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On 27 Nov 2019 at 01:24p, Alterego pondered and said...

With all respect...

Sure thing..

So over the year or so, I think Ive seen a couple of messages like this
- which I do not think is unusual, given that you have a real life
outside of BBSing, but it does make me wonder why you are a bottleneck. IMHO, no single person should be a bottleneck in anything and it cannot end well in the long term.

Not sure I'd use the term bottleneck as it implies restriction, unless that's what you're meaning? But what I think you are saying is watch out for single point dependency - am I right? Just checking so I clarify my understanding of your thoughts.

While I believe FSX is your baby, sometimes its great to see your baby grow on their own, just like the joy you see when they start to walk,

I don't feel I could walk away and let it move to Zanzibar if that's what you mean :)

Like all hobbies, its fun to do, but that fun is only fun, when its not a chore. Workload stacking up will in time present itself as a chore.

I agree.

So, I'd like to see this network scale itself to out do FN (that might
be my disapointment of what I've seen FN turn into talking here as I rejoin years later after my nieve youthful days). For it to do that, I

FN = Fidonet? Just checking. I initially misread this as FTN.

rejoin years later after my nieve youthful days). For it to do that, I think you need to delegate, offload, give up (pick the right term?) some administrative functions - I'm sure there are many here willing to help, myself included as I've offered in the past.

Thanks Deon - I really appreciate the candor and offers of help. I think I
need to feel my way though this and find things to delegate as they present
as comfortable to do so. It's certainly a much loved hobby/passion etc. to be active in BBSing and also to enjoy and nurture the community that fsxNet has become since late 2015. I agree there are likely any number of ways things could be run differently in the network. With the wisdom of the crowd and my gut intuition I hope to remain open to different ways of doing things, things that don't always involve me needing to be on point. I guess I realised that when we needed to spin up NET 2 then NET4, more recently the things we're now doing with you running NET 3 and Ruben picking up NET 5 for Wildcat systems etc.

Anyways that's a long winded way of saying thank you for posting this and keeping me thinking about different ways to do / structure stuff. I appreciate it.

Paul

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Re: Re: Calling all cars
By: Avon to Alterego on Wed Nov 27 2019 07:58 pm

Not sure I'd use the term bottleneck as it implies restriction, unless that's what you're meaning? But what I think you are saying is watch out for single point dependency - am I right? Just checking so I clarify my understanding of your thoughts.

So I was coming from the angle after I read your message that said "I havent done this, because I'm doing that". You've said that a couple of times now.

Doing "this" could be something fun that you want to do, but you cant get to it, because of all the "that" things that you need to do. Running a network has
a lot of "that" things, and in FSX they all depend on you. Joining games, getting connected, debugging (the infrastructure) problems, etc.

I know one of the "this" you wanted to do is build these servers you picked up a while ago - so I'm guessing that has been/was pre-empted by "that" things related to FSX and "that" things related to Avons personal life outside of BBSing.

Thus the downside is, folks are waiting on you, the chores build up and it wears away at the fun.

So if there were 2 or 3 or 4 "Avons", then things might get done quicker (thus the end user experience benefits), and you get more time for "this".

And when it gets to the size of FN (I always think big) - then you can look back and say - I started "this".

(And "this" is a friendlier place to be.)
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Calling all cars, anyone receiving? Over.

If you see this perhaps answer in Gen. I'm seeing nothing in this echo

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Calling all cars, anyone receiving? Over.

Yes!

If you see this perhaps answer in Gen. I'm seeing nothing in this echo

Ok.

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Calling all cars, anyone receiving? Over.

Yes!

Ta..


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Calling all cars, anyone receiving? Over.
If you see this perhaps answer in Gen. I'm seeing nothing in this echo

Will be kicking this over to Gen in a few.

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On 03-09-20 22:30, Spectre wrote to Anyone <=-

Calling all cars, anyone receiving? Over.

If you see this perhaps answer in Gen. I'm seeing nothing in this echo

I can see you. ;)


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