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    From Al@21:4/106 to All on Mon Apr 13 13:55:54 2020
    Hello All,

    g00r00 posted in MYSTIC that there is a new prealpha up at mysticbbs.com.

    I only passed one message through it so far but it looks good to me.

    Messages from a pkt with long lines look good in Mystic when reading and replying and outgoing .pkt's look good.

    I think this prealpha is looking good but more testing is needed.

    This is a big change and there may be any number of other details to be sorted yet.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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    * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106)
  • From Avon@21:1/100 to Al on Tue Apr 14 19:50:04 2020
    On 13 Apr 2020, Al said the following...

    I think this prealpha is looking good but more testing is needed.


    OK Al

    NET 1 updated to v1.12 A46 Windows/32 Compiled 2020/04/13 14:57:58

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/04/13 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: fsxNet HUB (21:1/100)
  • From Al@21:4/106 to Avon on Tue Apr 14 00:53:18 2020
    Hello Avon,

    I think this prealpha is looking good but more testing is needed.

    NET 1 updated to v1.12 A46 Windows/32 Compiled 2020/04/13 14:57:58

    Once I see hub 4 is updated I'll drop a little text file in here.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

    --- GoldED+/LNX
    * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106)
  • From Oli@21:3/102 to Avon on Tue Apr 14 10:06:07 2020
    Avon wrote (2020-04-14):

    On 13 Apr 2020, Al said the following...

    I think this prealpha is looking good but more testing is needed.


    OK Al

    NET 1 updated to v1.12 A46 Windows/32 Compiled 2020/04/13 14:57:58

    copy'n'pasting some text for testing:

    The Yes Men are back. Early this morning, the pair of pranksters and their henchpeople hit the streets of Manhattan to hand out copies of a climate change-themed New York Post spoof with the blaring headline: “WE’RE SCREWED.” The cover story explains, “It’s official. It’s getting hot down here. And if we don’t stop burning oil and coal, the Big Apple will be cooked.”

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    * Origin: (21:3/102)
  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Oli on Tue Apr 14 20:18:27 2020
    On 14 Apr 2020 at 10:06a, Oli pondered and said...

    @PATH: 3/102 100 1/100
    copy'n'pasting some text for testing:

    The Yes Men are back. Early this morning, the pair of pranksters and
    their henchpeople hit the streets of Manhattan to hand out copies of a climate change-themed New York Post spoof with the blaring headline: “WE’RE SCREWED.” The cover story explains, “It’s official. It’s getting hot down here. And if we don’t stop burning oil and
    coal, the Big Apple will be cooked.”

    ---
    * Origin: (21:3/102)

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/04/13 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Oli on Tue Apr 14 20:18:52 2020
    On 14 Apr 2020 at 10:06a, Oli pondered and said...

    @PATH: 3/102 100 2/100 1/100
    copy'n'pasting some text for testing:

    The Yes Men are back. Early this morning, the pair of pranksters and
    their henchpeople hit the streets of Manhattan to hand out copies of a climate change-themed New York Post spoof with the blaring headline: “WE’RE SCREWED.” The cover story explain
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    * Origin: (21:3/102)

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/04/13 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
  • From Oli@21:3/102 to Avon on Tue Apr 14 10:41:22 2020
    Avon wrote (2020-04-14):

    On 14 Apr 2020 at 10:06a, Oli pondered and said...

    @PATH: 3/102 100 1/100
    copy'n'pasting some text for testing:

    The Yes Men are back. Early this morning, the pair of pranksters and
    their henchpeople hit the streets of Manhattan to hand out copies
    of a climate change-themed New York Post spoof with the blaring
    headline: GammÇ£WEGammÇÖRE SCREWED.GammÇ¥ The cover story explains,
    GammÇ£ItGammÇÖs official. ItGammÇÖs getting hot down here. And if
    we donGammÇÖt stop burning oil and coal, the Big Apple will be
    cooked.Gammǥ

    Cool, no more truncation.

    I wonder where the GammC is coming from. Maybe it's locally on my machine.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/04/13 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)

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    * Origin: (21:3/102)
  • From Al@21:4/106 to Avon on Tue Apr 14 01:27:42 2020
    Hello Avon,

    On 14 Apr 2020 at 10:06a, Oli pondered and said...

    @PATH: 3/102 100 1/100
    copy'n'pasting some text for testing:

    The Yes Men are back. Early this morning, the pair of pranksters
    and their henchpeople hit the streets of Manhattan to hand out
    copies of a climate change-themed New York Post spoof with the
    blaring headline: “WE’RE SCREWED.” The cover story
    explains, “It’s official. It’s getting hot down here. And
    if we don’t stop burning oil and coal, the Big Apple will be
    cooked.”

    ---
    * Origin: (21:3/102)

    This one looks intact. The next one was through 2/100 and was cut off.

    Was the one via 2/100 in your FSX_NET msg area or the dupe base?

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

    --- GoldED+/LNX
    * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106)
  • From Blue White@21:4/134 to Oli on Tue Apr 14 13:34:08 2020
    Oli wrote to Avon <=-

    The Yes Men are back. Early this morning, the pair of pranksters and
    their henchpeople hit the streets of Manhattan to hand out copies of a climate change-themed New York Post spoof with the blaring headline: “WE’RE SCREWED.” The cover story explains, “It’s official. It’s getting hot down here. And if we don’t stop burning oil and
    coal, the Big Apple will be cooked.”




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  • From Oli@21:3/102 to Blue White on Tue Apr 14 22:56:34 2020
    Blue wrote (2020-04-14):

    Oli wrote to Avon <=-

    The Yes Men are back. Early this morning, the pair of pranksters and
    their henchpeople hit the streets of Manhattan to hand out copies
    of a climate change-themed New York Post spoof with the blaring
    headline: GammÇ£WEGammÇÖRE SCREWED.GammÇ¥ The cover story explains,
    GammÇ£ItGammÇÖs official. ItGammÇÖs getting hot down here. And if
    we donGammÇÖt stop burning oil and coal, the Big Apple will be
    cooked.Gammǥ

    That happens if Mystic doesn't set the CHRS kludge for a quoted UTF-8 mail, jamnntpd reads the mail as CP437, converts it to ISO 8859-1 and the newsreader has to deal with unexpected characters. Or something like this.

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    * Origin: (21:3/102)
  • From Al@21:4/106 to Oli on Tue Apr 14 14:40:58 2020
    Hello Oli,

    That happens if Mystic doesn't set the CHRS kludge for a quoted UTF-8 mail, jamnntpd reads the mail as CP437, converts it to ISO 8859-1 and
    the newsreader has to deal with unexpected characters. Or something
    like this.

    If we could drop all this CHRS this, CHRS that and just go with UTF-8 this would all be some much simpler.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

    --- GoldED+/LNX
    * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106)
  • From Oli@21:3/102 to Al on Wed Apr 15 08:05:39 2020
    Al wrote (2020-04-14):

    Hello Oli,

    That happens if Mystic doesn't set the CHRS kludge for a quoted
    UTF-8 mail, jamnntpd reads the mail as CP437, converts it to ISO
    8859-1 and the newsreader has to deal with unexpected characters.
    Or something like this.

    If we could drop all this CHRS this, CHRS that and just go with UTF-8
    this would all be some much simpler.

    OK, now my messages are always UTF-8 and my jamnntpd assumes UTF-8, if no CHRS is set. I'm not sure that it works well, but let's try.

    But what about older software that cannot display UTF-8 properly? Like

    --- GoldED+/LNX

    The charset translation configuration in some fidonet software is scary stuff ...

    P.S.: If we want simplify things, how about using UTC for the date/time field? ;)

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    * Origin: (21:3/102)
  • From Al@21:4/106.1 to Oli on Wed Apr 15 13:13:18 2020
    On 15 Apr 2020, Oli said the following...

    But what about older software that cannot display UTF-8 properly? Like

    --- GoldED+/LNX

    Yep, maybe we should just hang on a bit? ;)

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/04/13 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106.1)
  • From Blue White@21:4/134 to Oli on Wed Apr 15 17:50:18 2020
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    Oli wrote to Blue White <=-

    That happens if Mystic doesn't set the CHRS kludge for a quoted UTF-8 mail, jamnntpd reads the mail as CP437, converts it to ISO 8859-1 and
    the newsreader has to deal with unexpected characters. Or something
    like this.

    I was actually just quoting it back so you'd know it made it through.
    Also, I am not running mystic, but nodes between you and I are.


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  • From Oli@21:3/102 to Blue White on Sat Apr 18 10:22:01 2020
    Blue wrote (2020-04-15):

    Oli wrote to Blue White <=-

    That happens if Mystic doesn't set the CHRS kludge for a quoted
    UTF-8 mail, jamnntpd reads the mail as CP437, converts it to ISO
    8859-1 and the newsreader has to deal with unexpected characters.
    Or something like this.

    I was actually just quoting it back so you'd know it made it through. Also, I am not running mystic, but nodes between you and I are.

    You are right, that had nothing to do with Mystic. I received your quoted message with "CHRS: CP437 2" and my Newsreader displayed that weird Gamma?? stuff. I thought you saw that too, but I guess it looked fine in your reader. I




















































































































































    have no idea how charset stuff works with QWK and Multimail.

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