So I have this other BBS system I want to try to get working with FTN based networks. Only problem is it does not handle FTN style messaging at all. It does, however, handle Newsgroups. So I was thinking - is there a easy way to convert any FTN based messaging to news-style messaging for import to this BBS system and then back again for export?



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On Thu, 12 Dec 2019 15:52:47 GMT
"Joacim Melin -> All" <0@130.2.21> wrote:

So I have this other BBS system I want to try to get working with FTN based networks. Only problem is it does not handle FTN style
messaging at all. It does, however, handle Newsgroups. So I was
thinking - is there a easy way to convert any FTN based messaging to news-style messaging for import to this BBS system and then back
again for export?

I haven't used any of it, but I remember:

Soupgate
ifgate
Fidogate
GIGO
Watergate

I think Tommi (in Fidonet) uses Soupgate, but I might be wrong and it was someone else.

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On Thu, 12 Dec 2019 15:52:47 GMT
"Joacim Melin -> All" <0@130.2.21> wrote:

So I have this other BBS system I want to try to get working with FTN
based networks. Only problem is it does not handle FTN style
messaging at all. It does, however, handle Newsgroups. So I was
thinking - is there a easy way to convert any FTN based messaging to
news-style messaging for import to this BBS system and then back
again for export?

I haven't used any of it, but I remember:

Soupgate
ifgate
Fidogate
GIGO
Watergate

I think Tommi (in Fidonet) uses Soupgate, but I might be wrong and it
was
someone else.

Ok awesome. This is a FreeBSD system so Fidogate is available in the ports collection. Will check this out.


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On 12-12-19 16:52, Joacim Melin wrote to All <=-

So I have this other BBS system I want to try to get working with FTN based networks. Only problem is it does not handle FTN style messaging
at all. It does, however, handle Newsgroups. So I was thinking - is
there a easy way to convert any FTN based messaging to news-style messaging for import to this BBS system and then back again for export?

You could try using Synchronet as a message gateway, since it speaks both FTN and NNTP.

What BBS system is it? Perhaps I could run some experiments here, as I have Synchronet setup?


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On 12-12-19 16:52, Joacim Melin wrote to All <=-

So I have this other BBS system I want to try to get working with FTN based networks. Only problem is it does not handle FTN style messaging
at all. It does, however, handle Newsgroups. So I was thinking - is
there a easy way to convert any FTN based messaging to news-style messaging for import to this BBS system and then back again for export?

You could try using Synchronet as a message gateway, since it speaks
both FTN and NNTP.

What BBS system is it? Perhaps I could run some experiments here, as I have Synchronet setup?

For that matter, he could find a FIDO BBS that has NNTP that would be
willing to feed his NNTP-only system, so long as the NC of the network in question does not mind. IIRC, I think that one FTN network I am on (Micronet) allows for NNTP feeds.



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Re: nntp..
By: Joacim Melin to All on Thu Dec 12 2019 04:52 pm

So I have this other BBS system I want to try to get working with FTN based networks. Only problem is it does not handle FTN style messaging at all. It does, however, handle Newsgroups. So I was thinking - is there a easy way to convert any FTN based messaging to news-style messaging for import to this BBS system and then back again for export?

If you would like a feed FTN networks via NNTP, I'm happy to help you.

I've been meaning to play with it, and perhaps we can work it out together... ...deon


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On 12-13-19 19:00, Blue White wrote to Vk3jed <=-

For that matter, he could find a FIDO BBS that has NNTP that would be willing to feed his NNTP-only system, so long as the NC of the network
in question does not mind. IIRC, I think that one FTN network I am on (Micronet) allows for NNTP feeds.

For testing, yes, especially if he wants to carry Fidonet as well.

I'm not on Micronet, so I wouldnm't know. However, if I can host NNTP on VKRadio, I'd be happy to offer that as an alternative to FTN and QWK.


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On 12-12-19 16:52, Joacim Melin wrote to All <=-

So I have this other BBS system I want to try to get working with FTN
based networks. Only problem is it does not handle FTN style messaging
at all. It does, however, handle Newsgroups. So I was thinking - is
there a easy way to convert any FTN based messaging to news-style
messaging for import to this BBS system and then back again for export?

You could try using Synchronet as a message gateway, since it speaks
both FTN
and NNTP.

What BBS system is it? Perhaps I could run some experiments here, as
I have
Synchronet setup?

Well, it's based on FreeBSD and it's called Sklaffkom. It's a swedish BBS system which you can download here: http://www.sklaffkom.se/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/s132.tar.gz

It compiles with FreeBSD 8.4 as the latest (AFAIK). All instructions for compiling it are written in English but I totally understand if you aren't up for testing this. :)



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On 12-13-19 19:00, Blue White wrote to Vk3jed <=-

For that matter, he could find a FIDO BBS that has NNTP that would be
willing to feed his NNTP-only system, so long as the NC of the network
in question does not mind. IIRC, I think that one FTN network I am on
(Micronet) allows for NNTP feeds.

For testing, yes, especially if he wants to carry Fidonet as well.

I'm not on Micronet, so I wouldnm't know. However, if I can host NNTP
on
VKRadio, I'd be happy to offer that as an alternative to FTN and QWK.

Well I have a nntp feed already from Thundernews so that's covered but I would like FSXNet and the like on it too.


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Joacim Melin wrote to All <=-

So I have this other BBS system I want to try to get working with FTN based networks. Only problem is it does not handle FTN style messaging
at all. It does, however, handle Newsgroups. So I was thinking - is
there a easy way to convert any FTN based messaging to news-style messaging for import to this BBS system and then back again for export?

If you're running Synchronet, you could import/export email via FTN, then allow gating to other networks, and use the NNTP server to feed your other BBS.


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On 12-14-19 11:05, Joacim Melin wrote to Vk3jed <=-

It compiles with FreeBSD 8.4 as the latest (AFAIK). All instructions
for compiling it are written in English but I totally understand if you aren't up for testing this. :)

Ahh, OK. I'll need to get some sort of VM going, as I don't have FreeBSD handy here. :( The OS itself doesn't phase me, I've used Linux for a very long time, and have dabbled with FreeBSD in the past. Shouldn't take too much to relearn, then just have to study the FreeBSD specifics.

I'm also no stranger to compiling from source. :) The VM is the biggest barrier, not sure what VMM I have available since my Windows 10 upgrade. :)


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On 12-14-19 11:16, Joacim Melin wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Well I have a nntp feed already from Thundernews so that's covered but
I would like FSXNet and the like on it too.

Looks like some experimentation to come. :D


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On 12-14-19 11:16, Joacim Melin wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Well I have a nntp feed already from Thundernews so that's covered but
I would like FSXNet and the like on it too.

Looks like some experimentation to come. :D

Well, the holidays are coming up fast... gotta have a project. :)


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On 12-15-19 10:45, Joacim Melin wrote to Vk3jed <=-

On 12-14-19 11:16, Joacim Melin wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Well I have a nntp feed already from Thundernews so that's covered but
I would like FSXNet and the like on it too.

Looks like some experimentation to come. :D

Well, the holidays are coming up fast... gotta have a project. :)

Haha so is the business end of track season and the fire brigade competition season, not to mention a bad fire season too. :/


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On 12-15-19 10:45, Joacim Melin wrote to Vk3jed <=-

On 12-14-19 11:16, Joacim Melin wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Well I have a nntp feed already from Thundernews so that's covered but
I would like FSXNet and the like on it too.

Looks like some experimentation to come. :D

Well, the holidays are coming up fast... gotta have a project. :)

Haha so is the business end of track season and the fire brigade competition
season, not to mention a bad fire season too. :/

That blows.

Technically I'm on two weeks holiday but my work, where I'm the technical account manager for a number of pretty high profile customers, doesn't exactly require me to be on call as such but my employer requires me to be "available",
whatever that means. In my case it means keeping my work phone on 24/7 but mostly keep it in silent mode and in my work bag somewhere in the house. I never wake up for any phone anyway...


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On 12-15-19 13:11, Joacim Melin wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Haha so is the business end of track season and the fire brigade competition
season, not to mention a bad fire season too. :/

That blows.

The competition stuff is good. :) The fire season, not so good. Just saw a new forecast that predicts an above average season for here. Hope I don't spend too much time on a big red truck. :/

Technically I'm on two weeks holiday but my work, where I'm the
technical account manager for a number of pretty high profile
customers, doesn't exactly require me to be on call as such but my employer requires me to be "available",
whatever that means. In my case it means keeping my work phone on
24/7 but mostly keep it in silent mode and in my work bag somewhere in
the house. I never wake up for any phone anyway...

My phone automatically goes to silent between 10PM and 7AM. :) Well, technically, i'm out of work (today was my last on the job), but I do have some private stuff on the side that will keep me going for a few months. With 35C+ temperature for the next week at least, this will keep me busy watering the garden where I'm working.


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On Thu, 12 Dec 2019 15:52:47 GMT
"Joacim Melin -> All" <0@130.2.21> wrote:

So I have this other BBS system I want to try to get working with FTN
based networks. Only problem is it does not handle FTN style
messaging at all. It does, however, handle Newsgroups. So I was
thinking - is there a easy way to convert any FTN based messaging to
news-style messaging for import to this BBS system and then back
again for export?

I haven't used any of it, but I remember:

Soupgate
ifgate
Fidogate
GIGO
Watergate

I think Tommi (in Fidonet) uses Soupgate, but I might be wrong and it
was
someone else.

I've started to mess around with this some more but I'm having trouble finding a Linux (or FreeBSD) nntp client that can pull and push news from Thundernews. I tried fetchmail on CentOS 7 but that doesn't work:

[root@binkd leafnode]# fetchnews
WARNING: found no server with posting permission!

(the error message means that fetchnews can login but it never fetches any nntp
group list).

Any ideas?


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I've started to mess around with this some more but I'm having trouble finding a Linux (or FreeBSD) nntp client that can pull and push news
from Thundernews. I tried fetchmail on CentOS 7 but that doesn't work:

Not sure if you've heard of it, but I set up NNTP on my BBS and use
Claws-Mail as my news client... not sure if it will work for Thundernews, but gotta be worth a shot if you haven't tried it?

Hope this helps.

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