Echomail
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# Is there a need for separate BBS echos? Could they be merged to one?
(+1 agree, -2 disagree)

# Individual echos for different software is not a bad thing. It's good to
have separate places to discuss development etc. for specific software

Could use more echomail areas, not a huge number but more than we have at present where we can talk about other things (+1 nice to see gen echo split
up into a few more).

Could we have other echos to cover non-technical hobbies / projects?
Add a retro computing echo? (+1 agree).

Gaming related echos? (+1 agree).

Long names for echomail tags (+1 agree - 35 avail chars, let's use them).

Low echomail echos are OK, quite like the separation of BBS info, good idea
to keep them or at least the Mystic echo.

fsxNet seems largely technical and lacking an entertainment
sort of echo (+1 agree).

Better message threading for posts would be good. Is there a problem in
fsxNet FTN?

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OK here are my thoughts...

Generally, folks seem happy with what we have in the way of echomail areas
but would welcome some more to choose from and take part in. Ideally some
that are not so technically orientated but rather more general in their topics/subjects. I agree and would like to suggest a few echomail areas and will do so below.

For me the key is not to have so many as they sit inactive for a long time (a bad thing) but enough to allow more room to chat about other stuff outside BBSing. It's always going to be a balancing act and I tend to err on the side of caution in this area so will likely start with a smaller number of new echomail areas than others may wish for. That said if you feel strongly
there's a need for an echomail area on subject X then please post about it to this thread and lets as a community chat more about the need/desire for X.

There's a mix of views about the need for the current number of specific echomail areas for BBS software options. On balance more seem happy to keep
the status quo and retain the different echomail areas than others who would prefer to consolidate things. I tend to agree with keeping the status quo, let's leave those current echomail areas as they are and hope they continue
to be used for the reasons they were set up for, namely - focussed chat about the subject, support/help when asked for, a place for authors to engage in
and offer support/gain feedback should they wish to.

I agree that the three-hyphen-three echomail area tags I fsxNet started with are restrictive in conveying meaning and that there's no real reason (other than wanting to keep it simple from the get go) to retain this style of echomail tag formatting. So going forward we will start to look at using
longer echomail tag names. That said I do want to keep lengths reasonable and not strive to crack the 35-character length every time :)

Better message threading for posts I am at a bit of loss to know how best to progress this. I do think we could all be better at ensuing when we change
the subject/topic of something being discussed compared to what an original post made by an author was about we should all aim to update the subject of
our post before we press send. If it's something more technical that's amiss let me know and I and the HUB admins can attempt to debug things.

New echomail areas - here's some ideas for feedback based on what you have
told me. I have not fleshed out the correct descriptions yet but hopefully
you get the gist of what I am thinking. Do I have these mostly correct? What
is missing from this list? Are some a bad idea and should not be setup? Let
me know your thoughts.

FSX_GAMING - From action, adventure and role-playing, to simulations,
strategy, sports and puzzles games. Topics include MUDs to first-person shooters, real-time strategy to massively multiplayer online games and more. Xbox vs PlayStation vs Nintendo. Anything gaming related is on-topic here.

FSX_SPACE - If it's space or astronomy related you've come to the right
place. Topics include space industry activities (SpaceX, NASA, Blue Origin, Rocket Labs etc.) discussions about satellites, interplanetary missions, the science of space travel and more.

FSX_SPORTS - Do you like sport? Some of us play it while the rest of us surf the TV to watch it. No matter how you do sport, any discussion about it is on topic here. From Baseball to Basketball, Cricket to Golf, Diving to Darts, Hunting, Fishing, Tennis, Motorsport and even Dodgeball... talking sport just got easier. Just remember those 5Ds - dodge, duck, dip, dive and...

Next up I am not sure if it's best to set up a single echo or multiple echos for streaming platforms like Disney+, Amazon, Netflix etc. and the shows they carry? Or do we opt to split things out a little more like a Star Wars, Star Trek and Marvel (MCU) echo etc. Thoughts?

If we split them out along those lines, I'd suggest something like this..

FSX_MARVEL_DC - Captain America, Thor, Doctor Strange, the Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU) keep on expanding while Batman, Wonder Woman and Aquaman continue to shine in the DC Universe (DCU). Discuss your favourite
characters, films, comics, theories, spoilers here. Is Steve Rodgers alive
and living on the Moon? Which actor played Batman the best? I am Groot.

FSX_TREK - Archer, Kirk, Picard. so many captains so many ships. Which Trek rules them all? Original Star Trek, TNG, what about the new Kelvin timeline. Strap in, we're about to discuss, ships, episodes, actors and more. things may get bumpy as we hit warp 9! Tribbles not included.

FSX_STARWARS - This is the echo you have been looking for. If you know your Leia from your Lando you've come to the right Cantina! From the original trilogy to the latest Disney offerings, we discuss it all. Join us, but check your lightsaber at the door - it makes the Wookie nervous.

FSX_MOVIES - Seen a movie, old or new. Did it bark like a dog or make you
want to watch it another 10 times? Post your reviews, suggestions to watch
and more here. If it's Starwars, DC, MCU or Trek we have other echomail areas just for you. For anything else. Have at it!

Other ideas include...

FSX_RETRO - Retro computing and any old tech discussions. From early computer hardware and software, calculators, watches and more. if you have collected it, use it, need it fixed tell us about it here.

FSX_MOTORS - Petrol, diesel, electric - if it's got a motor in it let's
discuss it here. From cars and trains to boats, planes and bikes, fsxNet
Motors is open for business.

FSX_DIY - Who needs a professional when you an do it yourself! Discussions about all things DIY and how best to do them so that at end of the day your significant other is still smiling.

FSX_FOOD - Food glorious food! Share your favourite recipes, cooking tips and tricks etc.

FSX_GARDENING - Covering everything from indoor houseplants to outdoor vegetable plots. If you have green thumb or the secret to a successful lawn,
we need you here now!

FSX_ARTS - Painting, photography, drawing, modeling, wood turning,
sculpturing etc. If you have an artistic streak share it with others and/or
get help here.

I'll stop there for now... phew :)

Best, Paul

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New echomail areas - here's some ideas for feedback based on what you
have told me. I have not fleshed out the correct descriptions yet but hopefully you get the gist of what I am thinking. Do I have these
mostly correct? What is missing from this list? Are some a bad idea and should not be setup? Let me know your thoughts.

FSX_GAMING - From action, adventure and role-playing, to simulations, strategy, sports and puzzles games. Topics include MUDs to first-person shooters, real-time strategy to massively multiplayer online games and more. Xbox vs PlayStation vs Nintendo. Anything gaming related is
on-topic here.

Not one I'd use myself, but one I can see being quite popular. :)

FSX_SPACE - If it's space or astronomy related you've come to the right place. Topics include space industry activities (SpaceX, NASA, Blue Origin, Rocket Labs etc.) discussions about satellites, interplanetary missions, the science of space travel and more.

Count me in. :)

FSX_SPORTS - Do you like sport? Some of us play it while the rest of us surf the TV to watch it. No matter how you do sport, any discussion
about it is on topic here. From Baseball to Basketball, Cricket to
Golf, Diving to Darts, Hunting, Fishing, Tennis, Motorsport and even Dodgeball... talking sport just got easier. Just remember those 5Ds - dodge, duck, dip, dive and...

I'm in, as a participant. Actually, I'm in Queensland, on my way to Cairns for the Great Barrier Reef Masters Games. :)

Next up I am not sure if it's best to set up a single echo or multiple echos for streaming platforms like Disney+, Amazon, Netflix etc. and
the shows they carry? Or do we opt to split things out a little more
like a Star Wars, Star Trek and Marvel (MCU) echo etc. Thoughts?

This has the potential to balloon into a heap of echos. Could always start out with a DOVE-Net style "FSX_ENTERTAINMENT"or "FSX_MOVIESTV"" and see where things develop from there.

If we split them out along those lines, I'd suggest something like
this..

FSX_MARVEL_DC - Captain America, Thor, Doctor Strange, the Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU) keep on expanding while Batman, Wonder Woman
and Aquaman continue to shine in the DC Universe (DCU). Discuss your favourite characters, films, comics, theories, spoilers here. Is Steve Rodgers alive and living on the Moon? Which actor played Batman the
best? I am Groot.

FSX_TREK - Archer, Kirk, Picard. so many captains so many ships. Which Trek rules them all? Original Star Trek, TNG, what about the new Kelvin timeline. Strap in, we're about to discuss, ships, episodes, actors and more. things may get bumpy as we hit warp 9! Tribbles not included.

FSX_STARWARS - This is the echo you have been looking for. If you know your Leia from your Lando you've come to the right Cantina! From the original trilogy to the latest Disney offerings, we discuss it all.
Join us, but check your lightsaber at the door - it makes the Wookie nervous.

FSX_MOVIES - Seen a movie, old or new. Did it bark like a dog or make
you want to watch it another 10 times? Post your reviews, suggestions
to watch and more here. If it's Starwars, DC, MCU or Trek we have other echomail areas just for you. For anything else. Have at it!

Other ideas include...

FSX_RETRO - Retro computing and any old tech discussions. From early computer hardware and software, calculators, watches and more. if you have collected it, use it, need it fixed tell us about it here.

FSX_MOTORS - Petrol, diesel, electric - if it's got a motor in it let's discuss it here. From cars and trains to boats, planes and bikes,
fsxNet Motors is open for business.

FSX_DIY - Who needs a professional when you an do it yourself!
Discussions about all things DIY and how best to do them so that at end
of the day your significant other is still smiling.

FSX_FOOD - Food glorious food! Share your favourite recipes, cooking
tips and tricks etc.

FSX_GARDENING - Covering everything from indoor houseplants to outdoor vegetable plots. If you have green thumb or the secret to a successful lawn, we need you here now!

FSX_ARTS - Painting, photography, drawing, modeling, wood turning, sculpturing etc. If you have an artistic streak share it with others and/or get help here.

I'll stop there for now... phew :)

And some more good ideas in there. :)


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Hey Avon;

Avon wrote to All <=-

# Is there a need for separate BBS echos? Could they be merged to one?
(+1 agree, -2 disagree)

+1

Could we have other echos to cover non-technical hobbies / projects?
Add a retro computing echo? (+1 agree).

+1

Gaming related echos? (+1 agree).

+1 depending on how you define gaming.

Long names for echomail tags (+1 agree - 35 avail chars, let's use
them).

No comment :) I'm flexible... said the gymnast <G>

fsxNet seems largely technical and lacking an entertainment
sort of echo (+1 agree).

+1 Some good threads can be made in an entertainment echo area.

Better message threading for posts would be good. Is there a problem in fsxNet FTN?

Personally I think the threads are decent and the people here are all awesome from what I've seen and experienced! Deep civil discussions are also good
to have.

[snip]

FSX_ARTS - Painting, photography, drawing, modeling, wood turning, sculpturing etc. If you have an artistic streak share it with others and/or get help here.

This and all the others above +1

May I suggest FSX_PACKET? This would be for amateur packet radio. While it could fit into the HAM echo, packet is really a beast all it's own and with most hams that do packet now are more internet-based only it would bring in
a good mix of IP. AmprNet (44-net) could also be discussed along with the various softwares involved. I'd be happy to help get it going if need be.

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Avon wrote (2021-05-16):

Next up I am not sure if it's best to set up a single echo or multiple echos for streaming platforms like Disney+, Amazon, Netflix etc. and the shows they carry? Or do we opt to split things out a little more like a Star Wars, Star Trek and Marvel (MCU) echo etc. Thoughts?

I would start with a catch-all echo like FSX_VIDEO. Star Wars, Star Trek, Marvel/DC seems very specific and doesn't cover most other TV shows and movies out there. Why promote big franchises and streaming platforms even more?

Better to have FSX_MUSIC than FSX_SPOTIFY
Or FSX_BOOKS instead of FSX_KINDLE
FSX_ITUNES -> FSX_PODCASTS

FSX_MOTORS - Petrol, diesel, electric - if it's got a motor in it let's discuss it here. From cars and trains to boats, planes and bikes, fsxNet Motors is open for business.

My bikes don't have a motor. What about FSX_CYCLES?

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On 16 May 21 21:39:40, Avon said the following to All:

I'll stop there for now... phew :)

Dude you're overthinking things wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too much.

Do whatever you want but IMO your net is just fine the way it is.

Atreyu

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On 05-16-21 08:05, N1uro wrote to Avon <=-

May I suggest FSX_PACKET? This would be for amateur packet radio. While
it could fit into the HAM echo, packet is really a beast all it's own
and with most hams that do packet now are more internet-based only it would bring in a good mix of IP. AmprNet (44-net) could also be
discussed along with the various softwares involved. I'd be happy to
help get it going if need be.

I personally would rather keep all the ham chatter in the existing FSX_HAM echo, because this echo has a cross network gateway. And I think one ham echo is enough. It would make the content more varied. :)


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Am 16.05.21 schrieb Avon@21:1/101 in FSX_NET:

Hallo Avon,

Thank you for for consolidating the incoming messages and the following ideas!

Just some thoughts on the new echo ideas:

FSX_GAMING
FSX_SPACE
FSX_SPORTS

Good ideas!

FSX_MARVEL_DC
FSX_TREK
FSX_STARWARS
FSX_MOVIES

I would make one echo out of this, like FSX_MOVIES_AND_TV or something
like that.
If then the traffic goes way up for one of the topics, a new sub-echo
could be created.

FSX_RETRO
FSX_DIY
FSX_FOOD
FSX_GARDENING
FSX_MOTORS

Good ideas!

FSX_ARTS

Also nice. Does it include ANSI/ASCII art?

Thank you!

Regards,
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acn wrote (2021-05-17):

FSX_ARTS

Also nice. Does it include ANSI/ASCII art?

Only the one created and destroyed by Banksy ;).

I think this would be an interesting (meta) topic on FSX_ARTS. Is ANSI art art?

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Re: fsxNet Feedback (Echomail)
By: Oli to acn on Mon May 17 2021 10:07 am

I think this would be an interesting (meta) topic on FSX_ARTS. Is ANSI art art?

In the case of ansi it's a technical art.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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ALl sound excellent - thank you Paul!

Much appreciat ethe fforts you are putting into this!

Steve K9ZW

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On 16 May 2021 at 09:53p, Vk3jed pondered and said...

FSX_GAMING - From action, adventure and role-playing, to simulations,

Not one I'd use myself, but one I can see being quite popular. :)

Yep. There's a few suggestions for this one.

FSX_SPACE - If it's space or astronomy related you've come to the rig

Count me in. :)

Noted,.

FSX_SPORTS - Do you like sport? Some of us play it while the rest of

I'm in, as a participant. Actually, I'm in Queensland, on my way to

Coolio.

like a Star Wars, Star Trek and Marvel (MCU) echo etc. Thoughts?

This has the potential to balloon into a heap of echos. Could always start out with a DOVE-Net style "FSX_ENTERTAINMENT"or "FSX_MOVIESTV""

I like this idea and agree.

FSX_RETRO - Retro computing and any old tech discussions. From early FSX_MOTORS - Petrol, diesel, electric - if it's got a motor in it let FSX_DIY - Who needs a professional when you an do it yourself! FSX_FOOD - Food glorious food! Share your favourite recipes, cooking FSX_GARDENING - Covering everything from indoor houseplants to outdoo FSX_ARTS - Painting, photography, drawing, modeling, wood turning,

And some more good ideas in there. :)

Thanks Tony :)

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On 16 May 2021 at 08:05a, N1uro pondered and said...

FSX_ARTS - Painting, photography, drawing, modeling, wood turning,

This and all the others above +1

Thanks good sir.

May I suggest FSX_PACKET? This would be for amateur packet radio. While

I think this may best best rested in the current amateur radio echo for now until such time as quantity of posts on the topic demanded it.

- Brian N1URO

Thanks Brian :)

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On 16 May 2021 at 02:30p, Oli pondered and said...

I would start with a catch-all echo like FSX_VIDEO. Star Wars, Star
Trek, Marvel/DC seems very specific and doesn't cover most other TV

Yep agreed

Better to have FSX_MUSIC than FSX_SPOTIFY
Or FSX_BOOKS instead of FSX_KINDLE
FSX_ITUNES -> FSX_PODCASTS

Yep all good points thanks Oli.

FSX_MOTORS - Petrol, diesel, electric - if it's got a motor in it let'

My bikes don't have a motor. What about FSX_CYCLES?

Hmm I thought of a motor one because of the wide range of powered vehicles... not sure I'd go down the cycle route just yet, probably too niche as per your thoughts mentioned above.

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On 16 May 2021 at 10:03a, Atreyu pondered and said...

Dude you're overthinking things wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too much.
Do whatever you want but IMO your net is just fine the way it is.

Thanks Nick. I appreciate your feedback. I tend to think of it as looking ahead vs over thinking it... but good to know your (and others) thoughts/feedback on it all.

Cheers!

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On 17 May 2021 at 10:16a, acn pondered and said...

Just some thoughts on the new echo ideas:

FSX_GAMING
FSX_SPACE
FSX_SPORTS

Good ideas!

Thanks :)

FSX_MARVEL_DC
FSX_TREK
FSX_STARWARS
FSX_MOVIES

I would make one echo out of this, like FSX_MOVIES_AND_TV or something

Thanks, yep a few others have made similar comments too - all noted :)

FSX_RETRO
FSX_DIY
FSX_FOOD
FSX_GARDENING
FSX_MOTORS

Good ideas!

Thanks :)

FSX_ARTS

Also nice. Does it include ANSI/ASCII art?

Yep it would

Thank you!
Anna

Thanks Anna, appreciate the reply.

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On 16 May 2021 at 08:25p, k9zw pondered and said...

ALl sound excellent - thank you Paul!
Much appreciat ethe fforts you are putting into this!
Steve K9ZW

Thanks Steve, appreciate the reply/feedback.

Best, Paul

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Avon wrote (2021-05-18):

FSX_MOTORS - Petrol, diesel, electric - if it's got a motor in
it let'

My bikes don't have a motor. What about FSX_CYCLES?

Hmm I thought of a motor one because of the wide range of powered vehicles... not sure I'd go down the cycle route just yet, probably too niche as per your thoughts mentioned above.

Sad world, where it's cool to talk about vehicles that fuck up the planet and other vehicles are niche (or sports) ;-P.

FSX_MOTORS is like FSX_PACKET without FSX_HAM, or FSX_MYS without FSX_BBS.

But I guess I'm overthinking it ... (or was triggered by "Petrol, diesel, ...")

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On 18 May 2021 at 06:19a, Oli pondered and said...

Sad world, where it's cool to talk about vehicles that fuck up the
planet and other vehicles are niche (or sports) ;-P.

I did suggest e powered vehicles.. but like all of the above it's only suggestions at this point..

FSX_MOTORS is like FSX_PACKET without FSX_HAM, or FSX_MYS without
FSX_BBS.

But I guess I'm overthinking it ... (or was triggered by "Petrol,
diesel, ...")

I understand and know what's it like... it's been suggested I am over
thinking it too... perhaps we start a club?

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Hello Paul;

Avon wrote to N1uro <=-

Thanks good sir.

Anytime Grand Poobah of FSX :)

I think this may best best rested in the current amateur radio echo for now until such time as quantity of posts on the topic demanded it.

See what happens. Packet really is a world unto itself in the amateur world.
I know the ARRL wishes it would simply vanish - a wish they've had for decades. They won't even feed any of their bulletins over radio. Years ago
they fed me their bulletins direct via 220Mhz. Now they want me to find a
way to robotically convert internet email to packet - which I can and do
but I won't do it when an RF path exists!

Packet has so many takes to it: Classic, 802.11ham/HamWan/HamNet, APRS, Pactor... not to mention the various systems... which was my suggestion for it's own echo however if there's not much chatter about it then no need :)

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Avon wrote (2021-05-18):

But I guess I'm overthinking it ... (or was triggered by "Petrol,
diesel, ...")

I understand and know what's it like... it's been suggested I am over thinking it too... perhaps we start a club?

FSX_OVERTHINKING? … Or should we start a network for the club? … OverThink is already 9 characters … wasn't there a 8 char limit for the domain in FTN? … But Binkd works fine with longer domains. … The overthink[ing|ers].club domains are still available. … I have to think it over carefully …

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*** Quoting Avon from a message to Oli ***

I understand and know what's it like... it's been suggested I am over thinking it too... perhaps we start a club?

I saw a t-shirt online that I'd love to get. It was a black t-shirt with white writing which said:

"Hold on. Let me overthink this."

Wasn't this site, but same shirt:

https://www.crazydogtshirts.com/products/hold-on-let-me-overthink-this-mens-ts hirt


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Warpslide wrote to Avon <=-

"Hold on. Let me overthink this."

I sooo often do that when I'm coding!.. drives me nuts when I do.
Guess I should start coding in rooms with rubber padding? <G>

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On 18 May 2021 at 10:19a, N1uro pondered and said...

See what happens. Packet really is a world unto itself in the amateur world. I know the ARRL wishes it would simply vanish - a wish they've

I'm a HAM myself (ZL4PH) but have not played much with packet and to be
honest not that active at present as I'm far to engrossed in BBS as a hobby
:) That said feel free to have at it in the current HAM echo. It just takes a few keen folks to strike up a chat and others seem to appear from the
woodwork :)

Packet has so many takes to it: Classic, 802.11ham/HamWan/HamNet, APRS, Pactor... not to mention the various systems... which was my suggestion for it's own echo however if there's not much chatter about it then no need :)

We did have a packet echo at one stage but it was largely gated content from
a chap in Argentina.

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On 18 May 2021 at 04:09p, Oli pondered and said...

FSX_OVERTHINKING? … Or should we start a network for the club? …

..and we need a theme tune... I'm over... thinking... la la la

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On 18 May 2021 at 11:23a, Warpslide pondered and said...

"Hold on. Let me overthink this."

Wasn't this site, but same shirt:

https://www.crazydogtshirts.com/products/hold-on-let-me-overthink-this-men hirt

If my wife sees this I'm done for :)

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Avon wrote to N1uro <=-

On 18 May 2021 at 10:19a, N1uro pondered and said...

Shhh... I'm still pondering <G>

I'm a HAM myself (ZL4PH) but have not played much with packet and to be honest not that active at present as I'm far to engrossed in BBS as a hobby :) That said feel free to have at it in the current HAM echo. It just takes a few keen folks to strike up a chat and others seem to
appear from the woodwork :)

There's one fellow in NZ who's using my packet softwares. ZL2AQY, been using
it for quite a few years. I don't think he's ever had any issues with them.

We did have a packet echo at one stage but it was largely gated content from a chap in Argentina.

Gated stuff usually fails from what I've noticed. It seems too robotic in nature and echos need humans to be successful.

- N1uroBot <G>

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Hi all.

My intention is to wrap up this thread over the coming day or so and then
move forward on getting some new echos spun up.

Once done I'm going to tackle the files thread then move on to other topics raised.

I think it's a bit easier to deal with one topic at time and progress stuff
for that topic and then move on to the next.

Echomail areas and file bases are the low hanging fruit to progress so
starting with those first then will move on to the other themes/topics raised (security, moderation, privacy etc.)

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On 05-18-21 16:21, Avon wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Not one I'd use myself, but one I can see being quite popular. :)

Yep. There's a few suggestions for this one.

I'm not surprised, and I would certainly carry it on my boards.

FSX_SPORTS - Do you like sport? Some of us play it while the rest of

I'm in, as a participant. Actually, I'm in Queensland, on my way to

Coolio.

And now I'm at 40000 feet cruising altitude, heading further north to Cairns, where the games are being held. Gotta love offline mail. Saved up a bit of mail, so I had something to read on the plane. :)

This has the potential to balloon into a heap of echos. Could always start out with a DOVE-Net style "FSX_ENTERTAINMENT"or "FSX_MOVIESTV""

I like this idea and agree.

Cool. :)

And some more good ideas in there. :)

Thanks Tony :)

You're welcome. :)


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On 05-18-21 16:23, Avon wrote to N1uro <=-

May I suggest FSX_PACKET? This would be for amateur packet radio. While

I think this may best best rested in the current amateur radio echo for now until such time as quantity of posts on the topic demanded it.

Agreed, and the existing ham echo spans two networks. :)


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Oli wrote to Avon <=-

FSX_OVERTHINKING?

I don't think you've thought this through.


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On 19 May 2021 at 01:39p, Avon pondered and said...

Hi all.

My intention is to wrap up this thread over the coming day or so and then move forward on getting some new echos spun up.

OK folks here's my suggested final version of pending new echomail areas to
add (for now) to fsxNet.

Your final thoughts to help shape/tweak these are welcome. I've tried to
modify a few from the first iteration and broaden them out as per feedback received.

What do you guys think?

[snip]

FSX_GAMING - Anything gaming related is on-topic here. From electronic to
board games, action, adventure and role-playing, to simulations, strategy, sports and puzzles. This forum covers everything gaming related including
MUDs, first-person shooters, real-time strategy, massively multiplayer online games, console wars, hints, tips and tricks and more.

FSX_SPACE - If it's space or astronomy related you've come to the right
place. Topics include space industry activities (SpaceX, NASA, Blue Origin, Rocket Labs etc.) discussions about satellites, interplanetary missions, the science of space travel and more.

FSX_SPORTS - Do you like sport? Some of us play it while the rest of us surf the TV to watch it. No matter how you do sport, any discussion about it is on topic here. From Baseball to Basketball, Cricket to Golf, Diving to Darts, Hunting, Fishing, Tennis, Motorsport and even Dodgeball... talking sport just got easier. Just remember those 5Ds - dodge, duck, dip, dive and...

FSX_RETRO - Retro computing and any old tech discussions. From early computer hardware and software, calculators, watches and more. if you have collected it, use it, need it fixed tell us about it here.

FSX_TRANSPORT - Petrol, diesel, electric, human powered - if it gets you from
A to B let's chat about it here. From cars and trains to boats, planes and bikes, fsxNet Transport will get you there.

FSX_VIDEO - Watched a good movie? Seen an awesome TV show? Found a cool
series on Disney+, Netflix etc? If it's something you've seen or wish you could, or you just want to tell others to check it out - share your thoughts here. Reviews are welcome. Please preface posts containing spoilers with [spoilers] in your subject heading.

FSX_MUSIC - This forum covers anything to do with music. From the instruments performers play to the artists and bands they play in. All formats, genres
and eras are welcome.

FSX_DIY - Who needs a professional when you can do it yourself! Discussions about all things DIY and how best to do them are welcome. At the end we want you to come home and find your significant other still smiling :)

FSX_FOOD - Food glorious food! Share your favourite recipes, cooking tips and tricks etc.

FSX_GARDENING - Covering everything from indoor houseplants to outdoor vegetable plots. If you have green thumb or the secret to a successful lawn,
we need you here now!

FSX_ARTS - Painting, photography, drawing, modelling, wood turning, sculpturing, ANSI/ASCII art etc. If you have an artistic streak share it with others and/or get help here.

[snip]

Best, Paul

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Hello Avon!

On 22 May 2021, Avon said the following...

OK folks here's my suggested final version of pending new echomail areas to add (for now) to fsxNet.

Looks great! :)

And you've done a great job with the descriptions, too, I think!

Best regards
Zip

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Avon wrote to All <=-

[snip]

Excellente el Bosso :) You should ask the founder for double your salary!
Looks like you've put a lot of effort into this to help improve an already great net!


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Avon wrote to All <=-

OK folks here's my suggested final version of pending new
echomail areas to add (for now) to fsxNet.

Your final thoughts to help shape/tweak these are welcome. I've
tried to modify a few from the first iteration and broaden them
out as per feedback received.

What do you guys think?

<SNIP>

Excellent!!!



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On 05-22-21 15:11, Avon wrote to All <=-

On 19 May 2021 at 01:39p, Avon pondered and said...

Hi all.

My intention is to wrap up this thread over the coming day or so and then move forward on getting some new echos spun up.

<snip>

Looks pretty good. :)


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OK folks here's my suggested final version of pending new echomail ar to add (for now) to fsxNet.

Looks great! :)
And you've done a great job with the descriptions, too, I think!

Much agreed! Look forward to upcoming conversations.

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Re: Re: fsxNet Feedback (Echomail)
By: Avon to All on Sat May 22 2021 03:11 pm

On 19 May 2021 at 01:39p, Avon pondered and said...

Hi all.

My intention is to wrap up this thread over the coming day or so and then move forward on getting some new echos spun up.

OK folks here's my suggested final version of pending new echomail areas to add (for now) to fsxNet.

Your final thoughts to help shape/tweak these are welcome. I've tried to modify a few from the first iteration and broaden them out as per feedback received.

What do you guys think?

The topics look good to me. Something to consider is that echolists usually have both a 'tag' (echotag, a.k.a. areatag, up to 35 characters) and a 'title' (up to 55 characters) for each area, so having official area descriptions (titles) that fit that limitation would be good.
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On 23 May 2021 at 05:01p, Digital Man pondered and said...

The topics look good to me. Something to consider is that echolists usually have both a 'tag' (echotag, a.k.a. areatag, up to 35 characters) and a 'title' (up to 55 characters) for each area, so having official
area descriptions (titles) that fit that limitation would be good.

Thanks DM. Appreciate the feedback. I'll certainly keep that in mind as I work to update the NA file later tonight my time.

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Am 22.05.21 schrieb Avon@21:1/101 in FSX_NET:

Hallo Avon,

OK folks here's my suggested final version of pending new echomail areas to add (for now) to fsxNet.

[...]

This reads great! Thank you very much!
+1

Regards,
Anna

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On 23 May 2021 at 05:01p, Digital Man pondered and said...

and a 'title' (up to 55 characters) for each area, so having official
area descriptions (titles) that fit that limitation would be good.

Area descriptions are not as quick and easy to do as I thought ;-)

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Avon wrote (2021-05-25):

On 23 May 2021 at 05:01p, Digital Man pondered and said...

and a 'title' (up to 55 characters) for each area, so having
official area descriptions (titles) that fit that limitation would
be good.

Area descriptions are not as quick and easy to do as I thought ;-)

"I'm over... thinking... la la la"

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On 25 May 2021 at 08:56a, Oli pondered and said...

Area descriptions are not as quick and easy to do as I thought ;-)

"I'm over... thinking... la la la"

Keeping it simple yet informational... with a hint of expression...

FSX_GAMING Games/Gaming Chat
FSX_SPACE Space/Astronomy Chat
FSX_SPORTS Sports Chat (All Codes)
FSX_RETRO Retro Computing/Tech Chat
FSX_TRANSPORT Transportation (All Modes)
FSX_VIDEO Movies/TV/Streaming Chat
FSX_MUSIC Music Chat (Artists/Songs/Genres Etc.)
FSX_DIY D.I.Y Chat, Tips + Tricks
FSX_FOOD Food + Cooking Chat (Inc. Recipes + Help)
FSX_GARDENING Gardening Chat. Green Thumbs Wanted!
FSX_ARTS Arts + Artistic Chat/Support


Seem about right?

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Avon wrote (2021-05-25):

FSX_SPORTS Sports Chat (All Codes)

What does "All Codes" mean?

FSX_ARTS Arts + Artistic Chat/Support

Support?

Seem about right?

+1

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On 25 May 2021 at 10:03a, Oli pondered and said...

FSX_SPORTS Sports Chat (All Codes)

What does "All Codes" mean?

It's trying to convey all sports... so Baseball to Basketball, Cricket to Golf, Diving to Darts, Hunting, Fishing, Tennis, Motorsport etc.

FSX_ARTS Arts + Artistic Chat/Support

Support?

If you have an artistic streak share it with others and/or get help here.

Perhaps leave out support?

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On 25 May 2021 at 07:27p, Avon pondered and said...

On 23 May 2021 at 05:01p, Digital Man pondered and said...

and a 'title' (up to 55 characters) for each area, so having official area descriptions (titles) that fit that limitation would be good.

Area descriptions are not as quick and easy to do as I thought ;-)

OK I have settled on the following.. even after creating and posting to these echos with slightly different titles.

[snip]

FSX_GAMING Games/Gaming Chat
FSX_SPACE Space/Astronomy Chat
FSX_SPORTS Sports Chat (All Codes)
FSX_RETRO Retro Computing/Tech Chat
FSX_TRANSPORT Transportation Chat (All Modes)
FSX_VIDEO Movies/TV/Streaming Chat
FSX_MUSIC Music Chat (Artists,Songs Etc)
FSX_DIY D.I.Y Chat, Tips + Tricks
FSX_FOOD Food + Cooking Chat
FSX_GARDENING Gardening Chat
FSX_ARTS Arts + Artistic Chat

[snip]

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Re: Re: fsxNet Feedback (Echomail)
By: Avon to Oli on Tue May 25 2021 09:48 pm

On 25 May 2021 at 10:03a, Oli pondered and said...

FSX_SPORTS Sports Chat (All Codes)

What does "All Codes" mean?

It's trying to convey all sports... so Baseball to Basketball, Cricket to Golf, Diving to Darts, Hunting, Fishing, Tennis, Motorsport etc.

To an American, it would be unusual to refer to those as "codes". Maybe "all kinds" instead?
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On 25 May 2021 at 11:18a, Digital Man pondered and said...

To an American, it would be unusual to refer to those as "codes". Maybe "all kinds" instead?

Yeah language is bedeviling at a global level :) Yep I could change it.

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Hello Avon!

** On Wednesday 19.05.21 - 09:24, Avon wrote to Oli:

On 18 May 2021 at 04:09p, Oli pondered and said...

FSX_OVERTHINKING? … Or should we start a network for the club? …

..and we need a theme tune... I'm over... thinking... la la la

https://kolico.ca/tmp/iwasthinking.mp3


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On 26 May 2021, Ogg said the following...

..and we need a theme tune... I'm over... thinking... la la la

https://kolico.ca/tmp/iwasthinking.mp3

This reminds me of flipping through the FM stations when I was a kid.


Jay

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On 05-25-21 10:03, Oli wrote to Avon <=-

Avon wrote (2021-05-25):

FSX_SPORTS Sports Chat (All Codes)

Sounds very football centric. :)


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On 05-25-21 21:48, Avon wrote to Oli <=-

On 25 May 2021 at 10:03a, Oli pondered and said...

FSX_SPORTS Sports Chat (All Codes)

What does "All Codes" mean?

It's trying to convey all sports... so Baseball to Basketball, Cricket
to Golf, Diving to Darts, Hunting, Fishing, Tennis, Motorsport etc.

But you forgot to RUN! :D


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On 05-25-21 11:18, Digital Man wrote to Avon <=-

To an American, it would be unusual to refer to those as "codes". Maybe "all kinds" instead?

Similar on my side of the ditch, "codes" is used to refer mainly to the multiple types of "football" (AFL, rugby league, rugby union, gridiron (American football), soccer (Association football), Gaelic football, etc).
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Hello Warpslide!

** On Wednesday 26.05.21 - 15:27, Warpslide wrote to Ogg:

..and we need a theme tune... I'm over... thinking... la la la

https://kolico.ca/tmp/iwasthinking.mp3

This reminds me of flipping through the FM stations when I was a kid.

That one wasn't the best edit/mashup I've ever done, but I
couldn't resist urge to posit a response for a theme tune.

In highschool, I created a music-based interview along the
lines of Mr Jaws by Dickie Goodman:

We are here on the beach
Where a giant shark has
Just eaten a girl swimmer
Well, Mr. Jaws, how was it?

'Dynomite'

And what did she say
When you grabbed her?

'Please, Mr., please'

I know sharks are stupid
But what did you think when
You took that first bite?

'How sweet it is'

Mr. Jaws, before you
Swim out to sea
Have you anything else to say?

'Why can't we be friends
Why can't we be friends'

My "interview" was with the teachers. The answers were taken
from tunes that were very familiar or from popular tunes that
people were to have likely heard on hit radio.

I can assure you, I made sure to poke a lot of fun (and perhaps
embarassment) at the teachers, principal and vice principal.

It was a bigger hit with the kids than I thought. People were
laughing so hard that I had to make sure I stopped the tape
long enough for the laughing to die down so that everyone could
hear the next interview question properly.

I made two more "episodes" in subsequent years.

I transferred the originals from reel-to-reel to cassette. A
number of years later, I made copies to .mp3. Maybe if I can
find them, I'm post them.

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On 27 May 2021 at 11:57a, Vk3jed pondered and said...

To an American, it would be unusual to refer to those as "codes". May "all kinds" instead?

Similar on my side of the ditch, "codes" is used to refer mainly to the multiple types of "football" (AFL, rugby league, rugby union, gridiron (American football), soccer (Association football), Gaelic football,

I've opted to remove (All Codes) and just leave it as Sports Chat :)

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On 05-27-21 19:11, Avon wrote to Vk3jed <=-

I've opted to remove (All Codes) and just leave it as Sports Chat :)

Works for me. ;)


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On 27 May 2021, 11:55a, Vk3jed said the following...

But you forgot to RUN! :D

Run, Forest, Run! ;)


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On 05-28-21 11:51, Black Panther wrote to Vk3jed <=-

On 27 May 2021, 11:55a, Vk3jed said the following...

But you forgot to RUN! :D

Run, Forest, Run! ;)

Haha probably the most common community sport, either standalone or as a component of other sports. :D


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