You should have seen a test post on the news server from my MBSE setup.
Did it come through?
Hey Avon,
mighty leader and all round nice guy! #-)
You should have seen a test post on the news server from my MBSE setup. Did it come through?
@MSGID: 3:770/100@binkp ff925997
@TZUTC: 1100
@CHRS: CP437 2
@PID: MBSE-FIDO 1.0.7.21 (GNU/Linux-x86_64)
@TID: MBSE-FIDO 1.0.7.21 (GNU/Linux-x86_64)
@RFC-Organization: Agency BBS, Dunedin - New Zealand | bbs.nz @RFC-Content-Type: text/plain;
@RFC-Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
That's a test they said
It won't hurt they said
Hmmm
--- MBSE BBS v1.0.7.21 (GNU/Linux-x86_64)
* Origin: Agency BBS, Dunedin - New Zealand | bbs.nz
(3:770/100@binkp)
SEEN-BY: 633/0 280
@PATH: 633/280
Yes I see it on the NNTP server. Here's the detail.No MX or any other record for this domain.
[snip]
Path: news.bbs.nz!.POSTED.vorlon.activateit.net.au!ftn633.vk3heg.net!not-for-mail From: Stephen Walsh <Stephen.Walsh@f280.n633.z3.fidonet.org>
Newsgroups: nz.test^^^
Subject: Re: Just a test
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2021 11:48:53 +1100
Organization: Agency News - Dunedin, New Zealand
Message-ID: <1612054133@f280.n633.z3.fidonet.ftn>
Mime-Version: 1.0^^^^^
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ibm437
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Injection-Info: news.bbs.nz; posting-host="ePkgm7dWql+5pS8sevmfSbXfp3LbsQsAx4FZWHU/N/o";
logging-data="14882"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@news.bbs.nz" X-FTN-SEEN-BY: 633/0 280
REPLY: 3:770/100@binkp ff925997
X-FTN-PID: GED+LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
X-FTN-TID: MBSE-FIDO 1.0.7.21 (GNU/Linux-x86_64)
X-FTN-CHRS: CP437 2
X-Origin-Newsgroups: nz.test
X-Comment-To: "Paul Hayton" <>
X-FTN-MSGID: 3:633/280@fidonet 6015fe8f
X-FTN-AREA: NZ.TEST
X-Newsreader: GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5 (Linux 4.19.0-12-amd64 CPU UNKNOWN) X-FTN-TZUTC: 1100
X-FTN-PATH: 633/280
29 Jan 21 18:43, Paul Hayton wrote to all:^^^^^
@MSGID: 3:770/100@binkp ff925997
proper RFC lines as kludge lines.@RFC-Organization: Agency BBS, Dunedin - New Zealand | bbs.nz
@RFC-Content-Type: text/plain;
@RFC-Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
^^^^^^* Origin: Agency BBS, Dunedin - New Zealand | bbs.nz
(3:770/100@binkp)
wrong wrong wrong :). Should be X-FTN-REPLY. Can someone file a bug report?
Re: NZ.TEST
By: vorlon to Avon on Mon Feb 01 2021 11:40 am
You should have seen a test post on the news server from my
MBSE setup.
Did it come through?
NZ_TEST you mean? I haven't seen anything recently but I'll keep an
eye out.
Hey Avon,
mighty leader and all round nice guy! #-)
Careful I may start blushing :)
You should have seen a test post on the news server from my
MBSE setup. Did it come through?
Yes I see it on the NNTP server. Here's the detail.
On 01 Feb 2021 at 10:24a, Oli pondered and said...
wrong wrong wrong :). Should be X-FTN-REPLY. Can someone file a bug
report?
Thanks for the info. The first thing I want to do is get HPT working and
my other systems migrated. But thereafter more than happy to circle back
to what should/shouldn't be in/out of kludge lines etc.
Yes I see it on the NNTP server. Here's the detail.
Great. MBSE is a option for you if you can't get soupgate doing what you want. Although it's a full BBS package, you could just use it to do the news gating.
Is there anything you can do about it? Isn't it a MBSE bug?
Great. MBSE is a option for you if you can't get soupgate doing what you want. Although it's a full BBS package, you could just use it to do the news gating.
Is there anything you can do about it? Isn't it a MBSE bug?
I'm not sure.. I didn't pay close attention as to all the kludges you quoted etc... but if it all came out of MBSE then I guess no, not
anything I can look at / tackle right now.
At the moment I'm nailing down *.msg files and how to process them and
file attachments in HPT... nearly there on that count, phew :)
At the moment I'm nailing down *.msg files and how to process them and file attachments in HPT... nearly there on that count, phew :)
Good luck. If it's done, hpt should be good enough for the next couple of decades until FTN goes full 5D (or fades away).
I've started writing a soupgate replacement*. Tried several mail
libraries for constructing / reading RFC5322 mails. The one in Python
did weird things, Mail in Ruby has a bug that is an unfixed open issue
in the repo. Now I'm stuck at some point to get Gnome Evolution's Camel lib working with Vala. I'm not sure if it's a weird bug or I just don't get it ...
* don't expect that it will ever get finished
vorlon wrote (2021-02-02):
Yes I see it on the NNTP server. Here's the detail.
Great. MBSE is a option for you if you can't get soupgate doing
what you want. Although it's a full BBS package, you could just
use it to do the news gating.
It's also not doing the gating right (see my the reply to Avon's
first reply), better than soupgate though.
On 02 Feb 2021 at 11:39a, vorlon pondered and said...
Great. MBSE is a option for you if you can't get soupgate
doing what you want. Although it's a full BBS package, you
could just use it to do the news gating.
Thanks! Good to have many irons in the fire. :)
Thanks! Good to have many irons in the fire. :)
MBSE talks to Leafnode (Filtering features), and leafnode talks to the NNTP server (In this case it's Avon's).
Yep seems to be working tonight the debug gods are on my side.
I've started writing a soupgate replacement*.
Now I'm stuck at some point to get Gnome
Evolution's Camel lib working with Vala. I'm not sure if it's a
weird bug or I just don't get it ...
* don't expect that it will ever get finished
Well if/when you want a tester lemme know :)
It turned out the problem with Vala and Camel is a bug in the language bindings. Whenever I use software I discover bugs. Back to bug reporting and waiting (hoping) for a fix.
Great. MBSE is a option for you if you can't get soupgate doing
what you want. Although it's a full BBS package, you could just
use it to do the news gating.
It's also not doing the gating right (see my the reply to Avon's
first reply), better than soupgate though.
The advantage to MBSE if Avon wanted to go down that route, is that the code is maintained to this day and is in active dev.
My setup for news groups is like this:
MBSE talks to Leafnode (Filtering features), and leafnode talks to the
NNTP server (In this case it's Avon's).
MBSE talks to Leafnode (Filtering features), and leafnode
talks to the NNTP server (In this case it's Avon's).
What kind of filters are you running? I just started bringing in
Usenet and its so full of garbage that I'm having to drop entire newsgroups. I'm currently filtering out messages which are
crossposted more then 4 times, but you still get the psychopaths
that post these crazy long rants 20 times every day into individual groups.
It's so discourgaing how spam has ruined usenet.
vorlon wrote (2021-02-04):
Great. MBSE is a option for you if you can't get soupgate
doing what you want. Although it's a full BBS package, you
could just use it to do the news gating.
It's also not doing the gating right (see my the reply to
Avon's first reply), better than soupgate though.
The advantage to MBSE if Avon wanted to go down that route, is
that the code is maintained to this day and is in active dev.
AFAIK the original developer doesn't work on it anymore and the new[...]
repo doesn't even include the commit history from the original
by it's original author). What I didn't like was that it created an
OS user account for every BBS user. I only would run it in a
separate container.
My setup for news groups is like this:
MBSE talks to Leafnode (Filtering features), and leafnode talks
to the NNTP server (In this case it's Avon's).
I remember MBSE had everything included (BBS, Tosser, Mailer, NNTP
and more). Is it possible to use MBSE as a gateway that processes
mail without running the complete system? (I don't remember in
detail how MBSE worked).
The mails gated by MBSE look somewhat better than the ones from
soupgate, but there are still many problems. What would be the
advantage of MBSE over e.g. Synchronet?
I still would love to see something that is as simple to use as
soupgate (without being a complete BBS+everything package) and as competent as fidogate.
If you want to look at the filter file it's here: http://vk3heg.net/filters
Great. MBSE is a option for you if you can't get soupgate
doing what you want. Although it's a full BBS package, you
could just use it to do the news gating.
It's also not doing the gating right (see my the reply to
Avon's first reply), better than soupgate though.
Send in a pacth then. #-)
I still would love to see something that is as simple to use as
soupgate (without being a complete BBS+everything package) and as
competent as fidogate.
The quickest way would be to fix the bugs in soupgate.
On 04 Feb 2021 at 08:50a, Oli pondered and said...
It turned out the problem with Vala and Camel is a bug in the
language bindings. Whenever I use software I discover bugs. Back to
bug reporting and waiting (hoping) for a fix.
well you've found your niche :)
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