NET 1 has SSL BinkP polling NET 4 and vise versa

NET 2 has SSL BinkP polling NET 4

NET 2 has SSL BinkP polling NET 1

NET 2 is yet to open up port 24553 (I'm working with Solaris on that) to
enable BinkP SSL into NET 2

NET 2 and NET 1 have been unable to SSL BinkP NET 3 at this stage

No tests with NET 5 at this time.

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Re: Status
By: Avon to All on Mon Mar 02 2020 09:15 pm

NET 2 and NET 1 have been unable to SSL BinkP NET 3 at this stage

So, here is what I see:

3/2 07:09:00p 1216 BINKPS connection accepted from: 219.89.83.33 port 57416
3/2 07:09:01p 1216 BINKPS TLS WARNING 'Client sent obsolete handshake for the insecure SSLv2 protocol' (-13) setting session active
3/2 07:09:34p 1244 BINKPS connection accepted from: 219.89.83.33 port 57425
3/2 07:09:35p 1244 BINKPS TLS WARNING 'Client sent obsolete handshake for the insecure SSLv2 protocol' (-13) setting session active

I've put you on hold (with Taurus), and when I have some mail to send, I'll send it with SBBS BINKPS... (in fact I'll jump onto Hub 3 and generate a message).
...deon


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Re: Status
By: alter ego to Avon on Mon Mar 02 2020 08:41 pm

I've put you on hold (with Taurus), and when I have some mail to send, I'll send it with SBBS BINKPS... (in fact I'll jump onto Hub 3 and generate a message).

So, I'm loving that by the time I got to Hub 3 to post this test message, my message from 2/116 was already here... :)

Anyway, a test message to generate a message for Hub 1.
...deon
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Re: Status
By: alterego to Avon on Mon Mar 02 2020 08:43 pm

Anyway, a test message to generate a message for Hub 1.

So it looks like Hub 3 can talk to Hub 1 over SSL:

Sent M_ADR command
Got M_NUL command args: OPT CRAM-MD5-bfe82e6a530c6a6f0819a9da3d7593d2
Got M_NUL command args: SYS fsxHUB Risa [NET1]
Got M_NUL command args: ZYZ Avon
Got M_NUL command args: TIME Mon, 02 Mar 2020 22:44:10 +1300
Got M_NUL command args: VER Mystic/1.12A46 binkp/1.0
Peer version: Mystic/1.12A46 binkp/1.0
Got M_NUL command args: BUILD 2020/03/01 15:36:07 Windows/32
Got M_ADR command args: 21:1/100@fsxnet 21:1/3@fsxnet 21:1/2@fsxnet 21:1/0@fsxnet 21:0/0@fsxnet
Sending M_PWD command args: CRAM-MD5-de00ac3ebf5add75893b1f771959de39
Sent M_PWD command
Got M_OK command args: secure
Authentication successful: secure
Adding outbound files for 21:1/100@fsxnet
outbox file: /MAILER/BOX/00150001.064\5e5cd54f.pkt
Adding '/MAILER/BOX/00150001.064\5e5cd54f.pkt' as '5e5cd54f.pkt'
Sending file: /MAILER/BOX/00150001.064\5e5cd54f.pkt (0.9KB)
Sending M_FILE command args: 5e5cd54f.pkt 963 1583142223 0
Sent M_FILE command
Sending 963 bytes of data
Sent file: /MAILER/BOX/00150001.064\5e5cd54f.pkt (0.9KB)
Sending M_EOB command args:
Sent M_EOB command
Got M_NUL command args: QSIZE 0 files 0 bytes
Got M_EOB command args:
We got an M_EOB, but there are still 1 files pending M_GOT
Got M_GOT command args: 5e5cd54f.pkt 963 1583142223
Error in recv() of first byte of packet header
Deleted file: /MAILER/BOX/00150001.064\5e5cd54f.pkt
Unlocking C:/mailer/outbound.015\00010064.bsy.
C:\BBS\SBBS\exec\binkit.js executed in 10.49 seconds

Curious about this "error on recv()" - might have to ask DM about that, and I will when I confirm that test message did go out...
...deon
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Re: Status
By: alterego to Avon on Mon Mar 02 2020 08:46 pm

and I will when I confirm that test message did go out...

Did I mention I like the speed of delivery? (Yup, looks like messages from Hub3
got out via SSL - which would point to a problem with mystic sending to me?)

BTW: I can open up IPv6 to Hub 3, and it would be port 24553 - I'll do that and
send you that address to test - then we know its your port jiggery that's the problem.
...deon


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On Mon, 2 Mar 2020 21:15:39 +1300
"Avon -> All" <0@101.1.21> wrote:

NET 1 has SSL BinkP polling NET 4 and vise versa

which port number? I assumed 24553, but it failed.

+ 10:21 [9046] call to 21:1/100@fsxnet
+ 10:21 [9046] External command 'openssl s_client -quiet -alpn binkp -connect agency.bbs.nz:24553' started, pid 9047
+ 10:21 [9046] outgoing session with agency.bbs.nz:24556
depth=0 CN = agency.bbs.nz
verify error:num=66:EE certificate key too weak
verify return:1
depth=0 CN = agency.bbs.nz
verify error:num=18:self signed certificate
verify return:1
depth=0 CN = agency.bbs.nz
verify return:1
1996210192:error:141A318A:SSL routines:tls_process_ske_dhe:dh key too small:../ssl/statem/statem_clnt.c:2150:
? 10:21 [9046] recv: connection closed by foreign host
+ 10:21 [9046] done (to 21:1/100@fsxnet, failed, S/R: 0/0 (0/0 bytes))

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Re: Status
By: alter ego to Avon on Mon Mar 02 2020 08:49 pm

BTW: I can open up IPv6 to Hub 3, and it would be port 24553 - I'll do that and send you that address to test - then we know its your port jiggery that's the problem.

OK, IPv6 is w7-1-1.ipv6.leenooks.net port 24553...
...deon


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On Mon, 2 Mar 2020 20:46:10 +1100
"alterego -> Avon" <0@100.3.21> wrote:

Re: Status
By: alterego to Avon on Mon Mar 02 2020 08:43 pm

Anyway, a test message to generate a message for Hub 1.

So it looks like Hub 3 can talk to Hub 1 over SSL:

But a mailer that refuses to use obsoleted technology cannot talk to binkit or mystic. Now we have three variants that have problems talking to each other: mystic, binkit and openssl based mailers. The problems with binkit are known for a while and have not been fixed.

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Re: Status
By: Oli to alterego on Mon Mar 02 2020 11:31 am

each other: mystic, binkit and openssl based mailers. The problems with binkit are known for a while and have not been fixed.

What are they?
...deon


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On Mon, 2 Mar 2020 21:52:35 +1100
"alter ego -> Oli" <0@116.2.21> wrote:

Re: Status
By: Oli to alterego on Mon Mar 02 2020 11:31 am

each other: mystic, binkit and openssl based mailers. The
problems with binkit are known for a while and have not been
fixed.

What are they?

I should have written problem (singular). I guess it is just a problem with the
cert that binkit generates.

g00r00 wrote that mystic certs will be 2048 bits, maybe that is all that is needed.

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On Mon, 2 Mar 2020 21:52:35 +1100
"alter ego -> Oli" <0@116.2.21> wrote:

Re: Status
By: Oli to alterego on Mon Mar 02 2020 11:31 am

each other: mystic, binkit and openssl based mailers. The
problems with binkit are known for a while and have not been
fixed.

What are they?

I should have written problem (singular). I guess it is just a problem with the
cert that binkit generates.

+ 17:37 [12260] call to 21:2/116@fsxnet
+ 17:37 [12260] External command 'openssl s_client -quiet -alpn binkp -connect alterant.leenooks.net:24553' started, pid 12261
17:37 [12260] connected
+ 17:37 [12260] outgoing session with alterant.leenooks.net:24554
depth=0 C = ZZ, O = ALTERANT, CN = bbs.leenooks.net
verify error:num=66:EE certificate key too weak
verify return:1
depth=0 C = ZZ, O = ALTERANT, CN = bbs.leenooks.net
verify error:num=20:unable to get local issuer certificate
verify return:1
depth=0 C = ZZ, O = ALTERANT, CN = bbs.leenooks.net
verify error:num=21:unable to verify the first certificate
verify return:1
1996054544:error:141A318A:SSL routines:tls_process_ske_dhe:dh key too small:../ssl/statem/statem_clnt.c:2150:
? 17:37 [12260] recv: connection closed by foreign host
+ 17:37 [12260] done (to 21:2/116@fsxnet, failed, S/R: 0/0 (0/0 bytes))
17:37 [12260] session closed, quitting...


g00r00 wrote that certs generated by mystic will be 2048 bits, maybe that is all that is needed.

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On 02 Mar 2020, Avon said the following...

NET 2 and NET 1 have been unable to SSL BinkP NET 3 at this stage

NET 4 has SSL BinkP connections with NET 3... Well, at least it did... What
did you do to HUB 3? :)

Now I'm getting:

--------------------- POLL v1.12 A46 2020/03/01 Mon, Mar 02 2020 (loglevel 2) + 2020.03.02 18:58:28 Poll BINKP node via address lookup: 21:3/100
+ 2020.03.02 18:58:28 Queued 117 files (501,142 bytes) for 21:3/100
+ 2020.03.02 18:58:28 1-Polling 21:3/100 on slot 1 via BINKP
+ 2020.03.02 18:58:28 1-Connecting to alterant.leenooks.net on port 24553
+ 2020.03.02 18:58:29 1-Connected by IPV4 SSL to 101.186.5.106
+ 2020.03.02 18:58:30 1-System Alterant
+ 2020.03.02 18:58:30 1-SysOp Alter Ego
+ 2020.03.02 18:58:30 1-Location Parkdale, VIC
+ 2020.03.02 18:58:30 1-Info NDL 115200,TCP,BINKP
+ 2020.03.02 18:58:30 1-Info TIME Tue Mar 03 2020 12:58:26 GMT+1100 (AEDT)
+ 2020.03.02 18:58:30 1-Mailer BinkIT/2.28,JSBinkP/1.122,sbbs3.17c/Linux binkp/1.1
+ 2020.03.02 18:58:30 1-Sending: 01356130.pkt (59,327 bytes)
+ 2020.03.02 18:58:30 1-Connection lost
+ 2020.03.02 18:58:30 1-Session ended (0 sent, 0 rcvd, 0 skip)
+ 2020.03.02 18:58:31 Polled 1 systems

snip<=-

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Re: Re: Status
By: Black Panther to Avon on Mon Mar 02 2020 07:01 pm

NET 2 and NET 1 have been unable to SSL BinkP NET 3 at this stage

What did you do to HUB 3? :)
+ 2020.03.02 18:58:28 1-Connecting to alterant.leenooks.net on port 24553

Nothin'? :)

Hub 3 is on port 24556.

But if you have IPv6, you can use port 24553 (if you have to because mystic isnt letting you change that port).

The IPv6 address is w7-1-1.ipv6.leenooks.net
...deon


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But if you have IPv6, you can use port 24553 (if you have to because mystic isnt letting you change that port).

What?

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On 02 Mar 2020 at 07:01p, Black Panther pondered and said...

NET 4 has SSL BinkP connections with NET 3... Well, at least it did... What did you do to HUB 3? :)

I'm just in the process of backing up NET 4 before I apply the latest
updates. Good lord... 39,201 files to back up.. I count PKT after PKT after
PKT :)

I'm picking there's a few nodes that may have some outstanding files? :)

Anywhoo I'll finish this backup and then test SSL to NET 1 2 and 3 and report back here when done.

I think the EchoNodeTracker function will be very helpful for us.

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Re: Re: Status
By: g00r00 to alter ego on Tue Mar 03 2020 01:41 pm

But if you have IPv6, you can use port 24553 (if you have to because
mystic isnt letting you change that port).

What?

Was wondering if I would loose folks.

Hub 3 via IPv4 is on port 24556 (I use 24553 for another system on IPv4, so NAT
on 24556 sends it to the hub 3 host using 24553).

However, on IPv6, Hub 3 can be connected to directly on port 24553.

Make sense?
...deon


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On 03 Mar 2020, Avon said the following...

I'm just in the process of backing up NET 4 before I apply the latest updates. Good lord... 39,201 files to back up.. I count PKT after PKT after PKT :)

Yup, there are a few files in there...

I'm picking there's a few nodes that may have some outstanding files? :)

There are. I should try emailing again and see if I get any responses.

I think the EchoNodeTracker function will be very helpful for us.

I do have it set up in the nightly maintenance on Hub 4. So far, it hasn't
done anything... :(

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