• Useful?

    From Black Panther@21:1/186 to Avon on Wed Oct 21 20:54:56 2020
    Hi Paul,

    I'm not sure if this would be useful for you or fsxNet. I had been playing around with the code, and made some updates. It analyzes the nodelists.

    snip<=-

    NetStats 4.1(RCS) 21 Oct 2020

    INPUT NODELIST FILE : FSXNET.297
    File has a Date Stamp of : 10/18/2020
    File Size (uncompressed) : 30.18 KBytes.

    The Input Nodelist file has 219 Nodes in it
    and a total of 249 non-comment entries.

    The list has 1 Zones listed.
    1 Region Coordinators listed.
    5 Network Hosts listed.
    0 Hubs listed.
    2 DOWN Nodes listed.
    21 PRIVATE Nodes listed.
    0 HOLD Nodes listed.

    Administrative overhead = 7 ( 3.20 %)
    PRIVATE NODES overhead = 21 ( 9.59 %)

    Baud Rate Summary (or, BPS, for the die-hard technocrats):
    9600 = 0 ( 0.00 %)
    (HST's = 0 or 0.00 % of the 9600 baud modems.)
    (PEP's = 0 or 0.00 % " " " " )
    (MAX's = 0 or 0.00 % " " " " )
    (HAY's = 0 or 0.00 % " " " " )
    (V32's = 0 or 0.00 % " " " " )
    (V32B's = 1 or 0.00 % " " " " )
    (V42's = 0 or 0.00 % " " " " )
    (V42B's = 1 or 0.00 % " " " " )
    2400 = 0 ( 0.00 %)
    1200 = 0 ( 0.00 %)
    300 = 219 (100.00 %)

    ------------------------------------------------------
    IP Flags Protocol Number of systems
    IBN Binkp 213 ( 97.26 %)
    IFC Raw ifcico 2 ( 0.91 %)
    IFT FTP 1 ( 0.46 %)
    ITN Telnet 45 ( 20.55 %)
    IVM Vmodem 5 ( 2.28 %)
    IP Other 0 ( 0.00 %)
    INO4 IPv6 only 0 ( 0.00 %) ------------------------------------------------------

    CrashMail capable = 219 (100.00 %)
    MailOnly Nodes = 4 ( 1.83 %)

    [ This report produced by NETSTATS - Redesigned and Updated 1:317/3 ]
    [ NetStats 4.1(RCS) 21 Oct 2020 - Black Panther(RCS) - Castle Rock BBS ]


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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Black Panther on Sat Oct 24 21:03:11 2020
    On 21 Oct 2020 at 08:54p, Black Panther pondered and said...

    Hi Paul,

    I'm not sure if this would be useful for you or fsxNet. I had been
    playing around with the code, and made some updates. It analyzes the nodelists.

    Yes, this would be a great addition to have each week, much like they post to Fido (as far as I can tell?)

    The Input Nodelist file has 219 Nodes in it
    and a total of 249 non-comment entries.

    The list has 1 Zones listed.
    1 Region Coordinators listed.
    5 Network Hosts listed.

    Could the info be displayed in a different order?

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  • From Black Panther@21:1/186 to Avon on Sat Oct 24 02:12:02 2020
    On 24 Oct 2020, 09:03p, Avon said the following...

    Yes, this would be a great addition to have each week, much like they
    post toFido (as far as I can tell?)

    The source is from the same program that Bjorn modified. He has something similar that he posts in the Snooze...

    The list has 1 Zones listed.
    1 Region Coordinators listed.
    5 Network Hosts listed.

    Could the info be displayed in a different order?

    Yup. With the source code, I can do anything with it. :) I was thinking about removing the baud rates, as I think there is only a couple nodes with POTS.

    How would you like it arranged?


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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Black Panther on Sat Oct 24 21:36:28 2020
    On 24 Oct 2020 at 02:12a, Black Panther pondered and said...

    Yup. With the source code, I can do anything with it. :) I was thinking about removing the baud rates, as I think there is only a couple nodes with POTS.

    I agree I'd remove

    Baud Rate Summary (or, BPS, for the die-hard technocrats):
    9600 = 0 ( 0.00 %)
    (HST's = 0 or 0.00 % of the 9600 baud modems.)
    (PEP's = 0 or 0.00 % " " " " )
    (MAX's = 0 or 0.00 % " " " " )
    (HAY's = 0 or 0.00 % " " " " )
    (V32's = 0 or 0.00 % " " " " )
    (V32B's = 1 or 0.00 % " " " " )
    (V42's = 0 or 0.00 % " " " " )
    (V42B's = 1 or 0.00 % " " " " )
    2400 = 0 ( 0.00 %)
    1200 = 0 ( 0.00 %)
    300 = 219 (100.00 %)

    There seems no need now.

    Can you explain to me these / and or how they are calculated?

    249 non-comment entries

    will have a quick play and post something soon...

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  • From Black Panther@21:1/186 to Avon on Sat Oct 24 02:46:34 2020
    On 24 Oct 2020, 09:36p, Avon said the following...

    I agree I'd remove

    Baud Rate Summary (or, BPS, for the die-hard technocrats):
    9600 = 0 ( 0.00 %)

    I'm removing that from the output righ now.

    Can you explain to me these / and or how they are calculated?

    249 non-comment entries

    That is just the total number of entries in the nodelist. There are 249 systems listed. Then it subtracts the 'overhead', which is the zone, region, hubs, hosts, down, private and hold.


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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Black Panther on Sat Oct 24 21:47:47 2020
    On 24 Oct 2020 at 02:12a, Black Panther pondered and said...

    How would you like it arranged?

    Perhaps something like this...

    [snip]

    NetStats 4.1(RCS) 21 Oct 2020

    INPUT NODELIST FILE : FSXNET.297

    File has a Date Stamp of : 10/18/2020
    File Size (uncompressed) : 30.18 KBytes

    Nodes : 219
    Non-comment entries : 249

    FSXNET.297 Analysis
    ===================

    Zones : 1
    Region Coordinators : 1
    Network Hosts : 5
    Hubs : 0
    DOWN Nodes : 2
    PRIVATE Nodes : 21 ( 9.59 %)
    HOLD Nodes : 0

    Admin Overhead : 7 ( 3.20 %)
    MailOnly Nodes : 4 ( 1.83 %)
    CrashMail Capable : 219 (100.00 %)

    Nodelist Flag Analysis
    ======================

    ------------------------------------------------------
    IP Flags Protocol Number of systems
    IBN Binkp 213 ( 97.26 %)
    IFC Raw ifcico 2 ( 0.91 %)
    IFT FTP 1 ( 0.46 %)
    ITN Telnet 45 ( 20.55 %)
    IVM Vmodem 5 ( 2.28 %)
    IP Other 0 ( 0.00 %)
    INO4 IPv6 only 0 ( 0.00 %) ------------------------------------------------------

    [ This report produced by NETSTATS - Redesigned and Updated 1:317/3 ]
    [ NetStats 4.1(RCS) 21 Oct 2020 - Black Panther(RCS) - Castle Rock BBS ]

    [snip]

    It would be good to see the % figures against the admin section, I added in
    the PVT one.

    Also good to understand what Flags the systems tracks individually, so we
    could add to this and put in some custom ones, for Onion addresses etc.

    :)

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  • From Black Panther@21:1/186 to Avon on Sat Oct 24 03:17:00 2020

    NetStats 4.2(RCS) 24 Oct 2020

    INPUT NODELIST FILE : FSXNET.297
    File has a Date Stamp of : 10/18/2020
    File Size (uncompressed) : 30.18 KBytes.

    Nodes : 219
    Non-comment entries : 249

    Analysis
    ===================

    Zones : 1 ( 0.46 %)
    Region Coordinators : 1 ( 0.46 %)
    Network Hosts : 5 ( 2.28 %)
    Hubs : 0 ( 0.00 %)
    DOWN nodes : 2 ( 0.91 %)
    PRIVATE Nodes : 21 ( 9.59 %)
    HOLD Nodes : 0 ( 0.00 %)

    Admin Overhead : 7 ( 3.20 %)
    MailOnly Nodes : 4 ( 1.83 %)
    CrashMail Capable : 219 (100.00 %)

    Nodelist Flag Analysis
    ======================

    ------------------------------------------------------
    IP Flags Protocol Number of systems ------------------------------------------------------
    IBN Binkp 213 ( 97.26 %)
    IFC Raw ifcico 2 ( 0.91 %)
    IFT FTP 1 ( 0.46 %)
    ITN Telnet 45 ( 20.55 %)
    IVM Vmodem 5 ( 2.28 %)
    IP Other 0 ( 0.00 %)
    INO4 IPv6 only 0 ( 0.00 %)
    PING Ping 1 ( 0.46 %) ------------------------------------------------------

    [ This report produced by NETSTATS - Redesigned and Updated 1:317/3 ]
    [ NetStats 4.2(RCS) 24 Oct 2020 - Black Panther(RCS) - Castle Rock BBS ]


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  • From Black Panther@21:1/186 to Avon on Sat Oct 24 03:18:26 2020
    On 24 Oct 2020, 09:47p, Avon said the following...

    It would be good to see the % figures against the admin section, I added inthe PVT one.

    It's in there. :)

    Also good to understand what Flags the systems tracks individually, so we could add to this and put in some custom ones, for Onion addresses etc.

    I think if we us the U. in the nodelist, we could basically do anything we want to. At that point, I can pull that from the nodelist as well.


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  • From Black Panther@21:1/186 to Avon on Sat Oct 24 03:23:16 2020

    NetStats 4.2(RCS) 24 Oct 2020

    INPUT NODELIST FILE : FSXNET.304
    File has a Date Stamp of : 10/24/2020
    File Size (uncompressed) : 30.38 KBytes.

    Nodes : 221
    Non-comment entries : 251

    Analysis
    ===================

    Zones : 1 ( 0.45 %)
    Region Coordinators : 1 ( 0.45 %)
    Network Hosts : 5 ( 2.26 %)
    Hubs : 0 ( 0.00 %)
    DOWN nodes : 2 ( 0.90 %)
    PRIVATE Nodes : 21 ( 9.50 %)
    HOLD Nodes : 0 ( 0.00 %)

    Admin Overhead : 7 ( 3.17 %)
    MailOnly Nodes : 4 ( 1.81 %)
    CrashMail Capable : 221 (100.00 %)

    Nodelist Flag Analysis
    ======================

    ------------------------------------------------------
    IP Flags Protocol Number of systems ------------------------------------------------------
    IBN Binkp 215 ( 97.29 %)
    IFC Raw ifcico 2 ( 0.90 %)
    IFT FTP 1 ( 0.45 %)
    ITN Telnet 46 ( 20.81 %)
    IVM Vmodem 5 ( 2.26 %)
    IP Other 0 ( 0.00 %)
    INO4 IPv6 only 0 ( 0.00 %)
    PING Ping 1 ( 0.45 %) ------------------------------------------------------

    [ This report produced by NETSTATS - Redesigned and Updated 1:317/3 ]
    [ NetStats 4.2(RCS) 24 Oct 2020 - Black Panther(RCS) - Castle Rock BBS ]


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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Black Panther on Sun Oct 25 07:46:08 2020
    On 24 Oct 2020 at 03:18a, Black Panther pondered and said...

    It's in there. :)

    Looks good.

    I think if we us the U. in the nodelist, we could basically do anything
    we want

    Yep, but can we use U for one thing only? If we wanted to implement flags not noted in FTSC docs could those be added to the tool as well. Picking yes, but asking as well :)

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Black Panther on Sun Oct 25 07:49:57 2020
    On 24 Oct 2020 at 03:23a, Black Panther pondered and said...

    NetStats 4.2(RCS) 24 Oct 2020

    INPUT NODELIST FILE : FSXNET.304
    File has a Date Stamp of : 10/24/2020
    File Size (uncompressed) : 30.38 KBytes.


    This looks nice Dan. I think it would also be good to have the local time the report was run as well, so if it's generated different times on the same day you can tell. Perhaps add that to the header too?

    This exercise also got me thinking about ways of using the nodelist to track numerically and graphically things like

    - number of nodes per net

    - week to week stats changes in nets as well as across a zone.

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  • From Black Panther@21:1/186 to Avon on Sat Oct 24 13:26:18 2020
    On 25 Oct 2020, 07:49a, Avon said the following...

    This looks nice Dan. I think it would also be good to have the local
    time thereport was run as well, so if it's generated different times on the same dayyou can tell. Perhaps add that to the header too?

    I've got the current RunTime date and time listed now. Although I would think this program would only be run once per week.

    This exercise also got me thinking about ways of using the nodelist to tracknumerically and graphically things like

    - number of nodes per net

    That can be added. It wouldn't be too difficult to count each net individually.

    - week to week stats changes in nets as well as across a zone.

    This is something I'm already working on. The program right now, is also generating a comma delimited file with the information. I still need to update the fields. There could be an addition to the program which could generate numbers over time using that file.


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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Black Panther on Sun Oct 25 08:29:15 2020
    On 24 Oct 2020 at 01:26p, Black Panther pondered and said...

    I've got the current RunTime date and time listed now. Although I would think this program would only be run once per week.

    Thanks :) Yes, or when the nodelist was updated as well?

    - number of nodes per net

    That can be added. It wouldn't be too difficult to count each net individually.

    I figured not, but it would be an interesting stat to watch ebb and flow.

    - week to week stats changes in nets as well as across a zone.

    This is something I'm already working on. The program right now, is also generating a comma delimited file with the information. I still need to update the fields. There could be an addition to the program which could generate numbers over time using that file.

    sounds good :)

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  • From Black Panther@21:1/186 to Avon on Sat Oct 24 13:29:30 2020
    On 25 Oct 2020, 07:46a, Avon said the following...

    Yep, but can we use U for one thing only? If we wanted to implement
    flags notnoted in FTSC docs could those be added to the tool as well. Picking yes, butasking as well :)

    I can add any fields you want into this program. :)

    I'm just curious though, as to how the FTSC has any say in how things are done here? As long as the nodelist can be processed by software, it shouldn't be a problem what we add to it. I would think that the U fields would be ignored by any processing, as they are not a consistent source for data.


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  • From Black Panther@21:1/186 to Avon on Sat Oct 24 13:34:30 2020
    On 25 Oct 2020, 08:29a, Avon said the following...

    I've got the current RunTime date and time listed now. Although I wou think this program would only be run once per week.

    Thanks :) Yes, or when the nodelist was updated as well?

    I guess an event could be triggered by BinkD when a new nodelist comes in. :)

    That can be added. It wouldn't be too difficult to count each net individually.

    I figured not, but it would be an interesting stat to watch ebb and flow.

    Let me work on that. As I said, it wouldn't be too difficult to add.


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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Black Panther on Sun Oct 25 08:37:50 2020
    On 24 Oct 2020 at 01:29p, Black Panther pondered and said...

    I can add any fields you want into this program. :)

    HR:+2 <--- the sysop of this system has gained an extra two hours of BBS time!

    While the above is intended as a joke, I actually wonder if there is any
    merit in trying to enshrine timezone data in the nodelist? Probably not as
    the messages carry the kludge.

    I'm just curious though, as to how the FTSC has any say in how things
    are done here? As long as the nodelist can be processed by software, it shouldn't be a problem what we add to it. I would think that the U
    fields would be ignored by any processing, as they are not a consistent source for data.

    'say in things' - MMmm we'll if we run the nodelist for Fidonet I'd say quite
    a bit but if it's running in and Othernet zone I'd suggest far less... but I agree ideally it's going to have flags that legacy software can use and
    others that it will ignore. Seems flags have just sorta evolved over time and some that stuck got documented in FTSC docs...

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  • From Black Panther@21:1/186 to Avon on Sat Oct 24 14:05:34 2020
    On 25 Oct 2020, 08:37a, Avon said the following...

    While the above is intended as a joke, I actually wonder if there is any merit in trying to enshrine timezone data in the nodelist? Probably not asthe messages carry the kludge.

    While it could be done, I'm not sure there's any reason to. As you said, it's already in the message kludge lines.

    'say in things' - MMmm we'll if we run the nodelist for Fidonet I'd say quitea bit but if it's running in and Othernet zone I'd suggest far less... but Iagree ideally it's going to have flags that legacy software can use andothers that it will ignore. Seems flags have just sorta
    evolved over time andsome that stuck got documented in FTSC docs...

    Also need to keep in mind, how many systems are actually processing a nodelist? I know that Mystic does, but it's more for sending to nodes that aren't set up. I don't think that Synchronet *needs* to have a nodelist set up. BinkD doesn't need it... There may be a few that do use it...


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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Black Panther on Sun Oct 25 10:10:02 2020
    On 24 Oct 2020 at 02:05p, Black Panther pondered and said...
    While it could be done, I'm not sure there's any reason to. As you said, it's already in the message kludge lines.

    Agreed.

    Also need to keep in mind, how many systems are actually processing a nodelist? I know that Mystic does, but it's more for sending to nodes

    I would think any system that wants to send netmail should want to process
    it.. but yeah take you point on the above...

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  • From Utopian Galt@21:4/108 to Black Panther on Sat Oct 24 14:22:02 2020
    BY: Black Panther(21:1/186)


    Also need to keep in mind, how many systems are actually processing a nodelist? I know that Mystic does, but it's more for sending to nodes
    that aren't set up. I don't think that Synchronet *needs* to have a nodelist set up. BinkD doesn't need it... There may be a few that do use it...
    I dont think Ive been actively processing a nodelist for 15+ years.


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  • From deon@21:2/116 to Black Panther on Sun Oct 25 10:00:09 2020
    Re: Re: Useful?
    By: Avon to Black Panther on Sat Oct 24 2020 09:47 pm

    Howdy,

    Perhaps something like this...

    I think it would be great, if we could plug out the city/country from the nodelist and do some stats based on that too...

    So, if there was a standard format in the nodelist, eg: Melbourne_AU (IIRC mostly it is this way), it would be nice to know the distribution of where folks are from (country wise).

    ...лоеп

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to deon on Sun Oct 25 12:31:01 2020
    On 25 Oct 2020 at 10:00a, deon pondered and said...

    I think it would be great, if we could plug out the city/country from the nodelist and do some stats based on that too...

    So, if there was a standard format in the nodelist, eg: Melbourne_AU
    (IIRC mostly it is this way), it would be nice to know the distribution
    of where folks are from (country wise).

    Good suggestion :)

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  • From Black Panther@21:1/186 to Avon on Sat Oct 24 18:40:10 2020
    On 25 Oct 2020, 10:10a, Avon said the following...

    Also need to keep in mind, how many systems are actually processing a nodelist? I know that Mystic does, but it's more for sending to nodes

    I would think any system that wants to send netmail should want to processit.. but yeah take you point on the above...

    The nodelist is only needed if the netmail is being sent direct. If it's routed, the system only has to connect to the hub...


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  • From Black Panther@21:1/186 to Utopian Galt on Sat Oct 24 18:41:34 2020
    On 24 Oct 2020, 02:22p, Utopian Galt said the following...

    Also need to keep in mind, how many systems are actually processing a nodelist? I know that Mystic does, but it's more for sending to nodes that aren't set up. I don't think that Synchronet *needs* to have a nodelist set up. BinkD doesn't need it... There may be a few that do u it...

    I dont think Ive been actively processing a nodelist for 15+ years.

    I haven't either. Well, I take that back. Mystic does process the nodelists here, but it's really only used for the nodelist lookup, and BBS listings...


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  • From Black Panther@21:1/186 to deon on Sat Oct 24 18:48:46 2020
    On 25 Oct 2020, 10:00a, deon said the following...

    I think it would be great, if we could plug out the city/country from the nodelist and do some stats based on that too...

    Oh, sure, add more work to the project... ;) j/k

    So, if there was a standard format in the nodelist, eg: Melbourne_AU (IIRCmostly it is this way), it would be nice to know the distribution
    of wherefolks are from (country wise).

    That shouldn't be too difficult. Let me get the layout set up better, and then clean up this disaster code that's happening... Whoever wrote this, has some tabs at 1 space, others are at 5. My OCD is kicking in... :)

    Great idea though! Let me see what I can do to get it implemented. Do you think trying to incorporate this into the existing report, or maybe have it on a separate report would be better? I'm kinda thinking a separate report, as this one is getting a lot of information on it already.

    I'm open to any suggestions. :)


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  • From Black Panther@21:1/186 to deon on Sun Oct 25 22:47:14 2020
    On 25 Oct 2020, 10:00a, deon said the following...

    I think it would be great, if we could plug out the city/country from the nodelist and do some stats based on that too...

    So, if there was a standard format in the nodelist, eg: Melbourne_AU (IIRCmostly it is this way), it would be nice to know the distribution
    of wherefolks are from (country wise).

    Ok, so with a bit of work, I was able to generate a country report based on the nodelist. I'm not sure if you're using MakeNL for the nodelist segments or not, but perhaps you could take a look at Net 3 segment, and make sure the three letter country code is at the end of the city/state section. I did manually change them in my test nodelist.

    Here is a rough draft of the output at this point. It does need to be beautified a bit though. :)

    snip<=-

    USA ******************************* 151 60.16%
    CAN ****** 26 10.36%
    AUS **** 20 7.97%
    NZL *** 12 4.78%
    GBR ** 6 2.39%
    GER * 5 1.99%
    SWE * 5 1.99%
    NLD * 4 1.59%
    ARG * 4 1.59%
    ITA * 3 1.20%
    BRA * 3 1.20%
    ESP * 2 0.80%
    FRA * 1 0.40%
    IRL * 1 0.40%
    AUT * 1 0.40%
    PHL * 1 0.40%
    GRC * 1 0.40%
    CZE * 1 0.40%
    FIN * 1 0.40%
    XXX * 1 0.40%
    SVK * 1 0.40%
    ROU * 1 0.40%
    FRA * 1 0.40%
    =====================================================================
    Totals 251 100.00%


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  • From Black Panther@21:1/186 to Avon on Sun Oct 25 22:51:22 2020
    On 25 Oct 2020, 10:47p, Black Panther said the following...

    Ok, so with a bit of work, I was able to generate a country report based on thenodelist. I'm not sure if you're using MakeNL for the nodelist segments or not,but perhaps you could take a look at Net 3 segment, and make sure the threeletter country code is at the end of the city/state section. I did manuallychange them in my test nodelist.

    Here is a rough draft of the output at this point. It does need to be beautified a bit though. :)

    Hi Paul,

    The previous message contains where I'm at with the country report from the nodelist. Before you ask, the 'XXX' was added to the listing you have for 1/999.

    This report is showing the last three characters of the city/state field of the nodelist, so we will need to double check to make sure they are all set up in that format. When I originally ran it, I had a node in 'NLD', and another one in 'Netherlands'.

    I'll keep you posted as to making it look better. :)


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  • From deon@21:2/116 to Black Panther on Mon Oct 26 15:58:23 2020
    Re: Re: Useful?
    By: Black Panther to deon on Sun Oct 25 2020 10:47 pm

    Howdy,

    Ok, so with a bit of work, I was able to generate a country report based on the nodelist. I'm not sure if you're using MakeNL for the nodelist segments or not, but perhaps you could take a look at Net 3 segment, and make sure the three letter
    country code is at the end of the city/state section. I did manually change them in my test nodelist.

    I do use makenl, but not sure that Avon takes my segment as received (yet at least)...

    Are settling on ISO 2 char or 3 char country names? (I've always used 2, but see that you have 3... :)

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  • From Black Panther@21:1/186 to deon on Sun Oct 25 23:08:08 2020
    On 26 Oct 2020, 03:58p, deon said the following...

    I do use makenl, but not sure that Avon takes my segment as received
    (yet atleast)...

    I'm not sure if he is or not. I've been sending updated segments via MakeNL.

    Are settling on ISO 2 char or 3 char country names? (I've always used 2, butsee that you have 3... :)

    I've always used the 2 char, but Paul has been using 3, so I went with that instead of changing all of them. :)


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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Black Panther on Mon Oct 26 20:30:36 2020
    On 25 Oct 2020 at 10:47p, Black Panther pondered and said...

    AUS **** 20 7.97%
    NZL *** 12 4.78%

    Darn beaten by the Aussies again - sigh :)

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Black Panther on Mon Oct 26 20:37:01 2020
    On 25 Oct 2020 at 10:51p, Black Panther pondered and said...

    the nodelist. Before you ask, the 'XXX' was added to the listing you
    have for 1/999.

    Ahh..

    This report is showing the last three characters of the city/state field of the nodelist, so we will need to double check to make sure they are
    all set up in that format. When I originally ran it, I had a node in 'NLD', and another one in 'Netherlands'.

    My reference guide for using country codes in the fsxNet nodelist has been
    this web page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3166-1#Current_codes
    I use the Alpha 3 codes - hope that helps.

    Your comment made me realise as we get closer to having regular segments
    being incorporated into the nodelist from HUBs it's important we are all
    using the same song sheet.

    I'll keep you posted as to making it look better. :)

    You're doing great :)

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  • From Black Panther@21:1/186 to Avon on Mon Oct 26 01:39:00 2020
    On 26 Oct 2020, 08:30p, Avon said the following...

    AUS **** 20 7.97
    NZL *** 12 4.78

    Darn beaten by the Aussies again - sigh :)

    Want me to play with some numbers here? ;)


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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to Black Panther on Mon Oct 26 18:09:00 2020
    Also need to keep in mind, how many systems are actually processing a nodelist? I know that Mystic does, but it's more for sending to nodes that

    FrontDoor still needs a nodelist... but in actuality only to get it up and running. I think I'm still using the original list I got, I've hand edited the few changes needed to keep it functional. If you were going to stay on top of it for netmail purposes or something then it'd need be done more often.

    Spec


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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Black Panther on Mon Oct 26 20:45:44 2020
    On 25 Oct 2020 at 11:08p, Black Panther pondered and said...

    Are settling on ISO 2 char or 3 char country names? (I've always used butsee that you have 3... :)

    I've always used the 2 char, but Paul has been using 3, so I went with that instead of changing all of them. :)

    Yep 3 is the way please, it means I can decode by Bahamas from Bahrain :)

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  • From Black Panther@21:1/186 to Avon on Mon Oct 26 01:45:08 2020
    On 26 Oct 2020, 08:37p, Avon said the following...

    the nodelist. Before you ask, the 'XXX' was added to the listing you have for 1/999.

    Ahh..

    I knew you'd see it and ask. :)

    My reference guide for using country codes in the fsxNet nodelist has beenthis web page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3166-1#Current_codes
    I use the Alpha 3 codes - hope that helps.

    That's not a problem. It actually worked out well, as I was able to pull just that part of the field and make it look good.

    Your comment made me realise as we get closer to having regular segments being incorporated into the nodelist from HUBs it's important we are all using the same song sheet.

    Be careful, I might be on the same song sheet, but I'm really out of tune. :)

    I'll keep you posted as to making it look better. :)

    You're doing great :)

    I wouldn't say great, but doing alright. :)

    I do have the programs both set up on CRBBS. When a new nodelist comes in, it *should* run them and post the messages into a local base here. Once I know it's working properly, being automated, I'll start posting them into the FSX_STA echo.


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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Black Panther on Mon Oct 26 20:46:28 2020
    On 26 Oct 2020 at 01:39a, Black Panther pondered and said...

    Want me to play with some numbers here? ;)

    in the interests of international harmony - nope :)

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  • From Warpslide@21:3/110 to Avon on Mon Oct 26 10:24:01 2020
    On 26 Oct 2020, Avon said the following...

    I've always used the 2 char, but Paul has been using 3, so I went wit that instead of changing all of them. :)

    Yep 3 is the way please, it means I can decode by Bahamas from Bahrain :)

    3 does make things a lot easier.

    I always get my US states mixed up using the two letter state codes. You would *think* that MO should be Montana, but nooooo... it's actually Missouri. Montana is MT. Then there's ME... Maine. Yup, makes total sense...

    At least here in Canada we only have 10 provinces & 3 territories to worry about & they'll all fairly straightforward.


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  • From Black Panther@21:1/186 to Avon on Mon Oct 26 10:26:22 2020
    On 26 Oct 2020, 01:45a, Black Panther said the following...

    I do have the programs both set up on CRBBS. When a new nodelist comes
    in, it*should* run them and post the messages into a local base here.
    Once I knowit's working properly, being automated, I'll start posting
    them into theFSX_STA echo.

    Well, test 1 failed... I had the entry in the binkd.cfg file to run after the tic processing, so the file was already processed and didn't run. I've adjusted that, so with the next nodelist it *should* run... :)


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  • From Oli@21:3/102 to Avon on Tue Oct 27 13:09:37 2020
    Avon wrote (2020-10-25):

    On 24 Oct 2020 at 03:18a, Black Panther pondered and said...

    It's in there. :)

    Looks good.

    I think if we us the U. in the nodelist, we could basically do
    anything we want

    Yep, but can we use U for one thing only?

    No, you can have multiple U flags, like: ....,IBN,U,INO:deadbeef2313453.onion,BBS:NOPE,XYZ:WHATEVER,...

    I think there was some 32 character limit mentioned somewhere, but this might some historical wording without any practical relevance. We will see if things break.

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