I was thinking perhaps keeping FSX_BOT as a catch all, but splitting off some more topical bot posts into their own area, eg, bbs adds, file updates etc.
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I wouldn't mind this either. Also, I'd lovet for a rule of once per week
at most, or even once bi-weekly for BBS ads. I have mine set for one
week and it seems too much. Some I see every single day.
RE: FSX_BOTMaybe FX_ADS (such as advertising bbses/bbs products/stuff for sale)
BY: All
Hi
I'm wondering if it would be benificial to split up the bot area? I know
a lot
of people don't read it, but it seems to be a soup of BBS ads, Weather Reports, new file listings and anything else made by bots. Which I know
Others might like weather reports, who knows.
Just an idea, at present it feels like more of an area for people to experiment with bots, rather than something to be read.
I'm wondering if it would be benificial to split up the bot area? I know
a lot of people don't read it, but it seems to be a soup of BBS ads,
I know is what is intended, but as it gets more and more traffic, it's harder to find what you want to look at.
Personally, I like looking at BBS ads, especially ones that don't come
up very often - just because I like seeing what people are doing, new
ads for old bbses are cool too, the effort people put in etc.
I wouldn't mind this either. Also, I'd lovet for a rule of once per week atmost, or even once bi-weekly for BBS ads. I have mine set for one week and itseems too much. Some I see every single day.
I'm open to not posting those there.
I post them mostly for me, and I do look at them, but I can just as
easily setit to post locally rather than echoing them out.
I'm open to not posting those there.
I'm wondering if it would be benificial to split up the bot area? I know
a lot of people don't read it, but it seems to be a soup of BBS ads, Weather Reports, new file listings and anything else made by bots. Which
I know is what is intended, but as it gets more and more traffic, it's harder to find what you want to look at.
* new files hatched / received reports
* echomail area stats + network traffic stats (between zones, nodes etc.
* gated info like the weather reports or virus alerts etc.
Would an area for each of these three be the way forward also?
I confess I kinda still want to have something for echomail stats + networktraffic that is just fsxNet HUB data only... so perhaps we need another forthat?
Oh and I was wondering about a FSX_TST for all test posts and pointing thetest bot to that area instead? This was mooted some time back... that wouldremove most testing from GEN echo.
Would an area for each of these three be the way forward also?
In my opinion, we could start with adding of three echos. One could be
the FSX_ADS for BBS/Network Ads. One for echomail stats, FSX_STA? One
for file announcements, such as FSX_FIL. And the current FSX_BOT could remain for gated info, or other misc bot posts.
I confess I kinda still want to have something for echomail stats + networktraffic that is just fsxNet HUB data only... so perhaps we nee another forthat?
With the traffic being cut down by separating the above, couldn't those
go into the echo with the other echomail stats?
Oh and I was wondering about a FSX_TST for all test posts and pointin thetest bot to that area instead? This was mooted some time back... t wouldremove most testing from GEN echo.
That wouldn't be a bad idea. I've actually heard from a couple Sysops, that it can be difficult to follow message threads in FSX_GEN, as there can be so many different conversations going on at once. That could
reduce the 'noise' by a little bit.
I'm wondering if it would be benificial to split up the bot area? I know a lot of people don't read it, but it seems to be a soup of BBS ads, Weather Reports, new file listings and anything else made by
bots. Which I know is what is intended, but as it gets more and more traffic, it's harder to find what you want to look at.
The tension I have (as always) is not wanting to create any more echos
than is really necessary.
In my opinion, we could start with adding of three echos. One could be
the FSX_ADS for BBS/Network Ads. One for echomail stats, FSX_STA? One
for file announcements, such as FSX_FIL. And the current FSX_BOT could
remain for gated info, or other misc bot posts.
Yep seems fine to me, I'll wait for other to chime in with their thoughts also. It's important to me to offer clear descriptions / guidance in the FSXNET.TXT doc and on the website etc. as to what each echo contains. So will post something up later here to confirm my thinking is correct in that regard.
Avon wrote to All <=-
On 20 Oct 2020 at 12:31p, Apam pondered and said...
I'm wondering if it would be benificial to split up the bot area? I know
a lot of people don't read it, but it seems to be a soup of BBS ads, Weather Reports, new file listings and anything else made by bots. Which
I know is what is intended, but as it gets more and more traffic, it's harder to find what you want to look at.
Good thread and thought starter.
I also agree with the sentiments expressed too.
The tension I have (as always) is not wanting to create any more echos than is really necessary.
I'm wondering if it would be benificial to split up the bot area? I
Good thread and thought starter.
I missed the start of this thread, so if the issue is that we don't need the 'Weather Alert' posts, I can always stop posting them. Let me know, thanks!
I missed the start of this thread, so if the issue is that we don't need the 'Weather Alert' posts, I can always stop posting them. Let me know, thanks!
Avon wrote to Blue White <=-
No need to stop posting them, we're just trying to figure out where
they should go if we were to split up the BOT posts into different
echos etc... working to make finding / reading things easier or more focused :)
Will keep you posted, feel free to read the thread and chime in with
any thoughts / ideas... they are most welcome! :)
Yep seems fine to me, I'll wait for other to chime in with their thoughts also. It's important to me to offer clear descriptions / guidance in the FSXNET.TXT doc and on the website etc. as to what each echo contains. So will post something up later here to confirm my thinking is correct in that regard.
Hi team. Your feedback welcome :) Anything need tweaking? Too much, too little?
Hi team. Your feedback welcome :) Anything need tweaking? Too much, too little?
Hi team. Your feedback welcome :) Anything need tweaking? Too much, too little?
Hi team. Your feedback welcome :) Anything need tweaking? Too much, too little?
Looks good to me.
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Hi team. Your feedback welcome :) Anything need tweaking? Too much, too little?
Looks good to me.
That looks just about right to me. If you guys get that all setup I'll
get connected and move my bot stuff around.
I like it! When ready, I'll add all the new ones. (With the exception of FSX_ESP, only because I don't speak the language).
Looks good! Please let us know when the new areas are ready to be connected! =)
Which ones should be "posting by fsxNet SysOps only"?
Guessing on at least FSX_BOT, FSX_DAT, FSX_FIL, FSX_NET and FSX_STA.
Perhaps FSX_STA should be kept read-only to non-hub (etc.) nodes?
Looks good to me.
+1
Looks good. Let me know when they are 'live', and I'll change by bots.
Looks good to me.
+1
Let's call it 372 votes for now... I was never that good with math
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Let's call it 372 votes for now... I was never that good with math :)
Will be updating infopack with the following today:
Deon - could you kindly shift the test bot from FSX_GEN to it's new home of FSX_TST please and update your echo descriptions for 3/100 please :)
Hub 3 updated, and areafix sent everybody a %LIST.
Hub 3 folks you can subscribe to these areas, and if you have any
trouble, just send me a netmail and I can do it for you...
I leaning towards yes.. thoughts?
I leaning towards yes.. thoughts?
Maybe, not all software supports auto adding of Areas though.
I was wondering if for the BOT echos we should just sub all nodes?
I leaning towards yes.. thoughts?
Maybe, not all software supports auto adding of Areas though.
Yup, I dont read it - but I know there are some good things in there - I
That wouldn't be a bad idea. I've actually heard from a couple Sysops, that it can be difficult to follow message threads in FSX_GEN, as there
There seems to be duplicate versions for some items that come with
both an [ASCII] and [ANSI] tag. The weather postings for general
forecasts don't serve me much purpose personally but might be
useful for others.
The one that is still "breaking" my system (synchronet) is the ANSI Melbourne weather forecast.
Maybe, not all software supports auto adding of Areas though.
It's just these are echos that (will) contain the same data posted to
the BOTecho now and I'm 99% sure most systems take a feed of the BOT echo... so Iworry they may miss file announcements etc and BBS ads over time as folksmigrate.
I could put on my marketing hat and run a bit of an advertising blitz I guessacross GEN and in the BOT echo for a while just to let it be known
re thechanges... I guess..
Well, I actually thought it best that folks subscribe to what they want
(I know all systems dont get the previous "BOT" echo).
I'm also thinking it would be goot to "unsub" everybody from the old
bot, and have them re-sub as a "active" action - hopefully also making them to move their "BBS ads" to the right echo.
FSX_Trivia? Has anyone tried coming up with an interactive Trivia Bot
that canpost scores once a week or something?
It's just these are echos that (will) contain the same data posted to
the BOT
echo now and I'm 99% sure most systems take a feed of the BOT echo... so
I
worry they may miss file announcements etc and BBS ads over time as
folks
migrate.
FSX_Trivia? Has anyone tried coming up with an interactive
Trivia Bot that can post scores once a week or something?
That's actually a work in progress here. I'm working on an Inter-BBS
door that would receive the questions, and the users could answer
them and have scores sent back.
That surprises me. I modified the script to post the simpler ansi version. Its only got 3 colour changes on a per line basis I think
off hand. Whats it blowing up on now? Previously it appeared to be the associated icon that I cut from the end.
Yeah, it messes me up to.
In that posting, there are some non color ANSI CSI codes (somebody
Let's call it 372 votes for now... I was never that good with math :)
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After a couple of weeks we could delink all nodes from BOT then folks who post the weather data, earthquake reports etc. could resub and carry on.
My devils advocate voice does wonder aloud though if were making it unnecessarily complicated by dropping subbed nodes and asking/expecting themto resub again to the same echo?
The one that is still "breaking" my system (synchronet) is the ANSI Melbourne weather forecast.
That surprises me. I modified the script to post the simpler ansi version. Its only got 3 colour changes on a per line basis I think off hand. Whats it blowing up on now? Previously it appeared to be the associated icon that I cut from the end.
My devils advocate voice does wonder aloud though if were making it unnecessarily complicated by dropping subbed nodes and asking/expecti themto resub again to the same echo?
I'm thinking this may be overkill. We shouldn't have to remove anyone
from that echo. If we do have systems that are still posting
announcements into the incorrect echo, we can try to contact them individually to get it corrected, but I don't think delinking everyone
is necessary.
That was one of the suggestions I asked to Rushfan for wwiv. Maybe you could think of a solution. either via wwivutil or a seperate external utility.I leaning towards yes.. thoughts?
Maybe, not all software supports auto adding of Areas though.
Andrew
That was one of the suggestions I asked to Rushfan for wwiv. Maybe you could think of a solution. either via wwivutil or a seperate external utility.
On 10-26-20 11:24, Avon wrote to All <=-
Will be updating infopack with the following today:
[snip]
On 10-26-20 16:41, Avon wrote to deon <=-
On 26 Oct 2020 at 12:42p, deon pondered and said...
Hub 3 updated, and areafix sent everybody a %LIST.
Brill thanks!
Hub 3 folks you can subscribe to these areas, and if you have any
trouble, just send me a netmail and I can do it for you...
I was wondering if for the BOT echos we should just sub all nodes?
I leaning towards yes.. thoughts?
On 10-26-20 15:56, deon wrote to Avon <=-
I am forseeing that some folks dont change their BBS ads posts and they continue on the BOT echo.
On 10-26-20 20:44, Avon wrote to deon <=-
My devils advocate voice does wonder aloud though if were making it unnecessarily complicated by dropping subbed nodes and asking/expecting them to resub again to the same echo?
On 10-26-20 01:47, Black Panther wrote to Spectre <=-
On 26 Oct 2020, 05:30p, Spectre said the following...
FSX_Trivia? Has anyone tried coming up with an interactive Trivia Bot
that canpost scores once a week or something?
That's actually a work in progress here. I'm working on an Inter-BBS
door that would receive the questions, and the users could answer them
and have scores sent back.
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