A new version was released. it isnt 6.x, but its 5.9

--- WWIV 5.5.1.3261
* Origin: inland utopia * california * iutopia.duckdns.org:2023 (21:4/108)

Re: Winamp
By: Utopian Galt to All on Fri Jul 29 2022 09:30 am

A new version was released. it isnt 6.x, but its 5.9

It looks like it's a release candidate.

Nightfox
--- SBBSecho 3.15-Linux
* Origin: Digital Distortion: digdist.synchro.net (21:1/137)

Utopian Galt wrote to All <=-

A new version was released. it isnt 6.x, but its 5.9

Great, I still use WinAmp. It continues to kick the llama's ass.

I've used it so long, I have a *license* for it, before they went freeware!


... Adding on
--- MultiMail/DOS v0.52
* Origin: realitycheckBBS.org -- information is power. (21:4/122)

Great, I still use WinAmp. It continues to kick the llama's ass.

I've used it so long, I have a *license* for it, before they went freeware!

I still have a Winamp install on every system that it has compatibility for... and theres a complete Winamp Archive on 2o with every version from 2.6 to 5.66. :P



|07p|15AULIE|1142|07o
|08.........

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/07/15 (Linux/64)
* Origin: 2o for beeRS>>20ForBeers.com:1337 (21:2/150)

Great, I still use WinAmp. It continues to kick the llama's ass.

Whips. :)

It really WHIPS the llama's ass.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/03/02 (Windows/32)
* Origin: 8-Bit Boyz BBS! -=[ bbs.8bitboyz.com port:6502 ]=- (21:4/137)

Re: Re: Winamp
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Utopian Galt on Sat Jul 30 2022 09:36 am

Great, I still use WinAmp. It continues to kick the llama's ass.

I've used it so long, I have a *license* for it, before they went freeware!

I was using WinAmp since 1998 or so, and I thought it was always freeware.. I don't remember seeing any shareware notices or anything, but I could be remembering wrong.

One thing I noticed was that WinAmp doesn't scale its UI according to the Windows UI scaling settings. Currently I'm using a 4K monitor, and WinAmp's UI is tiny. I think WinAmp has a scaled-up skin, but I don't think it applies to everything (text and some buttons & things might still be fairly small).

Nightfox
--- SBBSecho 3.15-Linux
* Origin: Digital Distortion: digdist.synchro.net (21:1/137)

Whips. :)

It really WHIPS the llama's ass.

I use xmms, the x multi-media system. It's UI is designed to look like Winamp. It's been forgotten for the most part but I still have it and it still works.

--- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-6
* Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106)

I use xmms, the x multi-media system. It's UI is designed to look like Winamp. It's been forgotten for the most part but I still have it and it still works.

--- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-6

I used to use that for a long time. I now use Audacious, which can be configured to use the Winamp/XMMS style interface instead of the default GTK one. Audacious is, as a project, more active than XMMS.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)

I use xmms, the x multi-media system. It's UI is designed to look like

Yeah, xmms is pretty great. There used to be a kind-of-lightweight player
like it for Mac, but I think that's gone now. It'd be cool if xmms worked on Mac too.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/03/02 (Windows/32)
* Origin: 8-Bit Boyz BBS! -=[ bbs.8bitboyz.com port:6502 ]=- (21:4/137)

I use xmms, the x multi-media system. It's UI is designed to look like

Yeah, xmms is pretty great. There used to be a kind-of-lightweight player like it for Mac, but I think that's gone now. It'd be cool if xmms worked on Mac too.

I'm not really sure of the Mac build system but it is BSD based so it is possible.

I never built xmms myself, it ships with slackware but I could pass you the source and build script.

--- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-6
* Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106)

phigan wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

Great, I still use WinAmp. It continues to kick the llama's ass.

Whips. :)

It really WHIPS the llama's ass.

I blame coffee. The lack thereof.


... No appropriate tagline.
--- MultiMail/DOS v0.52
* Origin: realitycheckBBS.org -- information is power. (21:4/122)

Nightfox wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

I was using WinAmp since 1998 or so, and I thought it was always freeware.. I don't remember seeing any shareware notices or anything,
but I could be remembering wrong.

Back in 1997 or so they switched. I was working at a gaming company at the time - we did Tomb Raider. Our QA manager was a horse trader, we ended up swapping licenses of Tomb Raider for Microsoft Office licenses, WinZip, WinAMP, anything we needed. People wanted Tomb Raider in all of its'
polygonal goodness.

One thing I noticed was that WinAmp doesn't scale its UI according to
the Windows UI scaling settings. Currently I'm using a 4K monitor, and WinAmp's UI is tiny. I think WinAmp has a scaled-up skin, but I don't think it applies to everything (text and some buttons & things might
still be fairly small).

Yeah, there's a way to double it using ctrl-D, but then it's too big.


... HACK THE PLANET!
--- MultiMail/DOS v0.52
* Origin: realitycheckBBS.org -- information is power. (21:4/122)

boraxman wrote to Al <=-

I used to use that for a long time. I now use Audacious, which can be configured to use the Winamp/XMMS style interface instead of the
default GTK one. Audacious is, as a project, more active than XMMS.

One of the first things I do with my Linux installs is to download the
Winamp Classic skin for Audacious.


... HACK THE PLANET!
--- MultiMail/DOS v0.52
* Origin: realitycheckBBS.org -- information is power. (21:4/122)

Re: Re: Winamp
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nightfox on Mon Aug 01 2022 08:04 am

Back in 1997 or so they switched. I was working at a gaming company at the time - we did Tomb Raider. Our QA manager was a horse trader, we ended up swapping licenses of Tomb Raider for Microsoft Office licenses, WinZip, WinAMP, anything we needed. People wanted Tomb Raider in all of its' polygonal goodness.

I remember seeing screenshots of the older Tomb Raider games, though those were a series of games I never played.

In the late 90s, I had heard of a German band called Die Artze, who used Lara Croft from Tomb Raider in one of their music videos:
https://youtu.be/404oPn6tudE

Nightfox
--- SBBSecho 3.15-Linux
* Origin: Digital Distortion: digdist.synchro.net (21:1/137)

Back in 1997 or so they switched. I was working at a gaming company at
the time - we did Tomb Raider. Our QA manager was a horse trader, we ended up swapping licenses of Tomb Raider for Microsoft Office
licenses, WinZip, WinAMP, anything we needed. People wanted Tomb Raider in all of its' polygonal goodness.

I love Tomb Raider to this day! Super cool.

I have a PC build with a dual GPU - one is a Voodoo 3 3500, the other a powervr pcx2. Tomb Raider is an awesome game to experiment with these.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/graphics-card-voodoo-3-3500-powervr-pcx2

Such a great game. Lots of replayability.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/07/11 (Linux/64)
* Origin: m O N T E R E Y b B S . c O M (21:4/173)

BY: poindexter FORTRAN(21:4/122)

swapping licenses of Tomb Raider for Microsoft Office licenses, WinZip, WinAMP, anything we needed. People wanted Tomb Raider in all of its' polygonal goodness.

I have an old dos cd-rom version of tomb raider. I could never learn how to play it.


--- WWIV 5.5.1.3261
* Origin: inland utopia * california * iutopia.duckdns.org:2023 (21:4/108)

I'm not really sure of the Mac build system but it is BSD based so it is possible.

Yeah I've built it from source in Linux plenty of times, but I'm not sure if it'd be possible on Mac without 'brew'... and I try to stay away from brew
:/. I should one of these days set up a Mac that I don't use specifically for building stuff that requires brew.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/03/02 (Windows/32)
* Origin: 8-Bit Boyz BBS! -=[ bbs.8bitboyz.com port:6502 ]=- (21:4/137)

esc wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

powervr pcx2. Tomb Raider is an awesome game to experiment with these.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/graphics-card-voodoo-3-3500-powervr-pc x2

Such a great game. Lots of replayability.

I should dig up an old copy. I'm still playing Quake 2!

:)


... Overtly resist change
--- MultiMail/DOS v0.52
* Origin: realitycheckBBS.org -- information is power. (21:4/122)

I should dig up an old copy. I'm still playing Quake 2!

I /love/ Quake 2! Probably my favorite classic FPS. Such an awesome game in every way.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/07/11 (Linux/64)
* Origin: m O N T E R E Y b B S . c O M (21:4/173)

I /love/ Quake 2! Probably my favorite classic FPS. Such an awesome game in every way.

As am I. I play it online from time to time. Would be good to organise some games with Australian players.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)

I /love/ Quake 2! Probably my favorite classic FPS. Such an awesome game

Agreed.. Especially if the server has a good mod that includes the grappling hook. I forget the name of the mod I really liked back then... I want to say the name had something to do with jewels/stones or something.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/03/02 (Windows/32)
* Origin: 8-Bit Boyz BBS! -=[ bbs.8bitboyz.com port:6502 ]=- (21:4/137)

Agreed.. Especially if the server has a good mod that includes the grappling hook. I forget the name of the mod I really liked back
then... I want to say the name had something to do with jewels/stones or something.

I remember loving those old quake servers. It was really the first (and only) time I had fun with 3D FPS game servers.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/07/11 (Linux/64)
* Origin: m O N T E R E Y b B S . c O M (21:4/173)

Re: Re: Winamp
By: esc to phigan on Fri Aug 12 2022 10:49 am

I remember loving those old quake servers. It was really the first (and only) time I had fun with 3D FPS game servers.

I thought Quake 2 was cool and fun, though it wasn't my favorite of the 3D shooters. I like 3D shooters, but I feel like my favorite for multiplayer is the Unreal Tournament series. The first Unreal Tournament was fun, and I've also played Unreal Tournament 2004 and Unreal Tournament 3, as recent as a couple years ago. For a while, there were some Unreal Tournament 3 servers online that I liked to play on, but I don't think they're running anymore.

Now that I think about it, I wonder what the system requirements are of running an Unreal Tournament server, and if I hosted one myself, I wonder if it would get much use. I wouldn't mind doing that, and finding some of the mods that were used on some of the servers I used to play on.
--- SBBSecho 3.15-Linux
* Origin: Digital Distortion: digdist.synchro.net (21:1/137)

I thought Quake 2 was cool and fun, though it wasn't my favorite of the
3D shooters. I like 3D shooters, but I feel like my favorite for multiplayer is the Unreal Tournament series. The first Unreal
Tournament was fun, and I've also played Unreal Tournament 2004 and
Unreal Tournament 3, as recent as a couple years ago. For a while,
there were some Unreal Tournament 3 servers online that I liked to play on, but I don't think they're running anymore.

I never got into those games but I did recently build an XP gaming machine as well as a W98/DOS gaming machine. Perhaps I should give these a look. Hopefully my rigs are performant enough while being era appropriate for some of these :)

Alternatively I am working on an OG XBOX build.

Now that I think about it, I wonder what the system requirements are of running an Unreal Tournament server, and if I hosted one myself, I
wonder if it would get much use. I wouldn't mind doing that, and
finding some of the mods that were used on some of the servers I used to play on. --- SBBSecho 3.15-Linux

I did this with DOOM not long ago and a bunch of us deathmatched for a while. It was great fun until I got motion sick lol.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/07/11 (Linux/64)
* Origin: m O N T E R E Y b B S . c O M (21:4/173)

On 08-12-22 10:49, esc wrote to phigan <=-

I remember loving those old quake servers. It was really the first (and only) time I had fun with 3D FPS game servers.

Only think I ever did with Quake was run a server at work, and the office gamers loved me when I moved the server from Windows to Linux, because it ran heaps faster with no lag on Linux. ;)


... The number you have dailed...Nine-one-one...has been changed.
=== MultiMail/Win v0.52
--- SBBSecho 3.10-Linux
* Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (21:1/109)

I thought Quake 2 was cool and fun, though it wasn't my favorite of the
3D shooters. I like 3D shooters, but I feel like my favorite for multiplayer is the Unreal Tournament series. The first Unreal
Tournament was fun, and I've also played Unreal Tournament 2004 and
Unreal Tournament 3, as recent as a couple years ago. For a while,
there were some Unreal Tournament 3 servers online that I liked to play on, but I don't think they're running anymore.

Now that I think about it, I wonder what the system requirements are of running an Unreal Tournament server, and if I hosted one myself, I
wonder if it would get much use. I wouldn't mind doing that, and
finding some of the mods that were used on some of the servers I used to play on. --- SBBSecho 3.15-Linux

I preferred Quake 2 in the day, and I STILL occasionally hop on a server every now and then, though the only ones with activity are overseas so ping times suck. But the Unreal series was more interesting in where they took their design. iD made great engines, but were quite conservative in gameplay and design. The levels were rarely "out there" the way the Unreal levels were.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)

Re: Re: Winamp
By: esc to Nightfox on Fri Aug 12 2022 01:19 pm

Alternatively I am working on an OG XBOX build.

What is an OG XBOX? And by "build", do you mean you're building your own X-Box?

Nightfox
--- SBBSecho 3.15-Linux
* Origin: Digital Distortion: digdist.synchro.net (21:1/137)

Re: Re: Winamp
By: Vk3jed to esc on Sat Aug 13 2022 11:24 am

Only think I ever did with Quake was run a server at work, and the office gamers loved me when I moved the server from Windows to Linux, because it ran heaps faster with no lag on Linux. ;)

Speaking of lag, one thing that annoyed me about Quake 2 was that it seemed like it was the worst with lag.. There were many Quake 2 games I joined online that were very laggy - It would keep repeating the last movement I had done, etc., and it was really annoying.

Nightfox
--- SBBSecho 3.15-Linux
* Origin: Digital Distortion: digdist.synchro.net (21:1/137)

What is an OG XBOX? And by "build", do you mean you're building your own X-Box?

OG = original. The oldschool one.

And by "build" I mean disassembling and modifying one :) Not build as in, from scratch.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/07/11 (Linux/64)
* Origin: m O N T E R E Y b B S . c O M (21:4/173)

I thought Quake 2 was cool and fun, though it wasn't my favorite of

I never got into those games but I did recently build an XP gaming machine as well as a W98/DOS gaming machine. Perhaps I should give these a look. Hopefully my rigs are performant enough while being era appropriate for some of these :)

Most of those era games will be happy so long as you have any kind of 3D capable video card. Right back to the venerable Voodoo.

Spec


*** THE READER V4.50 [freeware]
--- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval)
* Origin: The future's uncertain, the end is always near. (21:3/101)

I /love/ Quake 2! Probably my favorite classic FPS. Such an awesome

As am I. I play it online from time to time. Would be good to organise some games with Australian players.

I was never a fan of Q1 or Q2, I think I played them LAN with the handbrake briefly.. it was Q3 that grabbed me, and from time to time I pop up a Q3 server.

Spe


*** THE READER V4.50 [freeware]
--- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval)
* Origin: The future's uncertain, the end is always near. (21:3/101)

Most of those era games will be happy so long as you have any kind of 3D capable video card. Right back to the venerable Voodoo.

Yep! My Win98 rig has a voodoo 3 3500 so I am in good shape :)

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/07/11 (Linux/64)
* Origin: m O N T E R E Y b B S . c O M (21:4/173)

On 08-13-22 09:18, Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Speaking of lag, one thing that annoyed me about Quake 2 was that it seemed like it was the worst with lag.. There were many Quake 2 games
I joined online that were very laggy - It would keep repeating the last movement I had done, etc., and it was really annoying.

I can't speak to the player's PoV, I never actually played any of the Quake series. :)


... I do not think it means what you think it means.
=== MultiMail/Win v0.52
--- SBBSecho 3.10-Linux
* Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (21:1/109)

Re: Re: Winamp
By: esc to Nightfox on Sun Aug 14 2022 12:12 am

OG = original. The oldschool one.

So that's the O, but what about the G? :P

Nightfox
--- SBBSecho 3.15-Linux
* Origin: Digital Distortion: digdist.synchro.net (21:1/137)

OG = original. The oldschool one.

So that's the O, but what about the G? :P

OG = Original Gangster. It's a colloquial term in gang culture to represent someone that has been in a gang for a long time, typically since its inception. This has transcended into meaning "original" in terms of products...like I used to have an OG Beetle which basically meant not the new Beetle, the original one from the 50s.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/07/11 (Linux/64)
* Origin: m O N T E R E Y b B S . c O M (21:4/173)

multiplayer is the Unreal Tournament series. The first Unreal
Tournament was fun, and I've also played Unreal Tournament 2004 and

Quake 2 was also the only FPS game I've ever really liked, but I do remember that Unreal Tournament was also good. The problem was that I never had good enough hardware at the time to play those games. With Quake 2 I could stick
it in software 640x480 mode and be good to go!

running an Unreal Tournament server, and if I hosted one myself, I
wonder if it would get much use. I wouldn't mind doing that, and

I'd try it once :)

This is probably the wrong base for all this. We could chat on IRC about it.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/03/02 (Windows/32)
* Origin: 8-Bit Boyz BBS! -=[ bbs.8bitboyz.com port:6502 ]=- (21:4/137)