Hi guys

I'm keen to release v0.5 soonish, but wondering how people feel about the frequency of updates?

While I don't imagine keeping up this frequency, I am thinking hatching
out too often could be annoying for people. So I'm thinking of putting a minimum time between update to say a week?

Does that sound ok? It might be longer than a week, but no sooner, unless
there is some emergency security bug?

Stuff that's coming in v0.5: full screen editor, interbbs oneliners,
inter-node messaging and some more tweaks :)

Andrew


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On 20 Nov 2020 at 11:50a, apam pondered and said...

I'm keen to release v0.5 soonish, but wondering how people feel about the frequency of updates?

While I don't imagine keeping up this frequency, I am thinking hatching out too often could be annoying for people. So I'm thinking of putting a minimum time between update to say a week?

I think the freq will depend on when you feel there's new stuff to share /
fix. If it's urgent send it out sooner, else if not urgent but changes
reflect a fairly significant change then I'd work to something less demanding in the way of any timetable. Probably best not to have a timetable :)

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fix. If it's urgent send it out sooner, else if not urgent but changes reflect a fairly significant change then I'd work to something less demanding
in the way of any timetable. Probably best not to have a timetable :)

Agree, the best software is pushed out "when it's ready". :)

-rushfan


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Stuff that's coming in v0.5: full screen editor, interbbs oneliners, inter-node messaging and some more tweaks :)

If signifigant things happen make it 0.6 and onwards, if its a minor fix maybe call it 0.51.


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I think the freq will depend on when you feel there's new stuff to
share /
fix. If it's urgent send it out sooner, else if not urgent but changes reflect a fairly significant change then I'd work to something less demanding
in the way of any timetable. Probably best not to have a timetable :)

Yeah, I wasn't really suggesting a timetable, just that for usual new
features and such if i do a bunch of new features in a short while I'll
sit on them until at least a week passed since the last one, usually I
imagine it will be a lot longer than a week. I just don't want to give
people update fatigue or clog peoples inboxes.

I'm certainly not suggesting an update every week. That would be burnout
coming quickly I imagine.

Andrew


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Agree, the best software is pushed out "when it's ready". :)

Yep, I just don't want to flood people with a new release every other
day. With magicka, I let people have access to the git repo - while I
could do that this time, I decided not to because I often commit stuff
when it is broken, because it's easier for me to git push from my
development machine then git pull on my testing machine.

With "releases" people get a snapshot where i'm pretty sure it works.

Just writing this, I'm actually pretty pleased with myself about this
editor.. sure breaks lines at 75 columns, but it's not crashed yet...

(Famous last words??)

Lol

Nope still didn't crash....

Hehe. I'm pushing it...

Andrew


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If signifigant things happen make it 0.6 and onwards, if its a minor
fix maybe c
all it 0.51.

I've got it set up as v0.x for minor changes vx.0 for major, I do also
have v0.5-xxx where xxx is a string (i'm using "dev" for now, but could
be a build number I suppose if I was doing lots of minor updates.

Andrew


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RE: Re: Update Frequency
BY: apam(21:1/126)

I'm keen to release v0.5 soonish, but wondering how people feel about
the
frequency of updates?

MOAR MOAR MOAR

Seriously, keep 'em, coming.



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apam wrote to All <=-

Does that sound ok? It might be longer than a week, but no sooner,
unless there is some emergency security bug?

I can deal with that. Weekly works with my schedule anyway.

Stuff that's coming in v0.5: full screen editor, interbbs oneliners, inter-node messaging and some more tweaks :)

Looking forward to this!

Shawn

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Stuff that's coming in v0.5: full screen editor, interbbs

oneliners,

inter-node messaging and some more tweaks :)

Looking forward to this!

Well there's definitley some bugs in the full screen editor. I've managed
to trigger them today, but not sure how I did I think it was deleting
long paragraphs...

Also when getting to the end of screen, sometimes it doesn't refresh
right..

I'll get it eventually I guess.

Andrew


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Hi guys
I'm keen to release v0.5 soonish, but wondering how people feel about the frequency of updates?

I'm a user who's poking around with Talisman but not running it facing the internet. I'm OK with whatever you decide, but more releases don't bother me since I'm not really RUNNING Talisman.

I'm thankful for all you do, apam.
PS, I dig that you call into my board to see what I'm doing. Thanks.



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I'm a user who's poking around with Talisman but not running it facing
the inter
net.

I'm actually not sure who is, I think Alpha may still be and I am, but
that's all I know of. But yeah, cool that you're having a play :)

I'm thankful for all you do, apam.

Thanks :)

PS, I dig that you call into my board to see what I'm doing. Thanks.

You've put a lot of work into it. I dial around a bit, though I often
lose my dialling directory when I switch OS/Computers. Have a few on my
list I call when I'm bored.

Andrew


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apam wrote to Tiny <=-

Also when getting to the end of screen, sometimes it doesn't refresh right..
I'll get it eventually I guess.

I'm sure you will. Too bad you couldn't just use Magiedit but
I guess that was never written for windows.

Shawn

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I'm sure you will. Too bad you couldn't just use Magiedit but
I guess that was never written for windows.

You can use magiedit on the linux version, I was using it here to start
with. Magiedit has it's own problems though, and the code was getting to
be a big mess.

I think I've fixed most of the bugs, they were just little off by ones,
but there is still a problem when pressing backspace and the next line
appends to the one your on.

Little things like that.. haven't had a crash in a while though, so
that's good :)

Andrew


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apam wrote to Tiny <=-

You can use magiedit on the linux version, I was using it here to start with. Magiedit has it's own problems though, and the code was getting
to be a big mess.

Gotcha. If I have time I may try to cram a dos message editor in there
as a door... think it would work?

Little things like that.. haven't had a crash in a while though, so
that's good :)

Very good!

Shawn

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Gotcha. If I have time I may try to cram a dos message editor in
there
as a door... think it would work?

Yeah, it should. I guess you'd have to use netfoss etc.

It is supposed to use QuickBBS style for the external editor, and it puts
the MSGTMP / MSGINF in the temp/[node]/ folder.

So you'd just have your external editor line in the talisman ini to point
to a batch file that loads up netfoss and the dos editor.

Andrew


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You can use magiedit on the linux version, I was using it here to sta with. Magiedit has it's own problems though, and the code was getting to be a big mess.

This maybe a dumb question... could one use the old (or current, I think.) iceEdit? I always liked that editor and if it would plugin with TALISMAN that would be cool.



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This maybe a dumb question... could one use the old (or current, I
think.) iceEd
it? I always liked that editor and if it would plugin with TALISMAN
that would b
e cool.

You might be able to on Windows 32 bit, but not on a pi. The dosbox
method I mentioned earlier won't work too well if someone's trying to
write a message on 2 nodes at a time, which is more likely than running
the same door.

Andrew


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You might be able to on Windows 32 bit, but not on a pi. The dosbox
method I mentioned earlier won't work too well if someone's trying to write a message on 2 nodes at a time, which is more likely than running the same door.

Shows what I know, about IceEdit and using it with TALISMAN - I didn't even think about how it would be 'a door'... understood..



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apam wrote to Tiny <=-

Yeah, it should. I guess you'd have to use netfoss etc.
It is supposed to use QuickBBS style for the external editor, and it
puts the MSGTMP / MSGINF in the temp/[node]/ folder.
So you'd just have your external editor line in the talisman ini to
point to a batch file that loads up netfoss and the dos editor.

I'll have a play with this over the next three days. Will also start
moving some ANSI's over and see if I can break it good and proper. ;)

EDIT: Just upgraded. Didn't think and overwrote the message area config
LOL. Need to rebuild that first. hahahahahaha

Shawn

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So you'd just have your external editor line in the talisman ini to
point
to a batch file that loads up netfoss and the dos editor.

I've looked everywhere for an example of this.... ? LOL Sorry I admit
to being dense at times. :)

Shawn


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I've looked everywhere for an example of this.... ? LOL Sorry I
admit
to being dense at times. :)

I'm not sure how the netfoss part works, but the batchfile is called just
like a door, ie with %1 being node number and %2 being socket.

Andrew


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apam wrote to Tiny <=-

I'm not sure how the netfoss part works, but the batchfile is called
just like a door, ie with %1 being node number and %2 being socket.

Sorry I wasn't clear. in talisman.ini what is the keyword? is it
editor = "batchfile" ?

Shawn

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Sorry I wasn't clear. in talisman.ini what is the keyword? is it
editor = "batchfile" ?

Sigh, today I saw it in the docs on the website. I think my browser
hadn't refreshed or something.

Shawn

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Sorry I wasn't clear. in talisman.ini what is the keyword? is it
editor = "batchfile" ?

Under paths, you put

external editor = batchfile

Andrew


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