• Roses

    From Black Panther@21:1/186 to All on Fri May 28 11:48:06 2021
    Hi All,

    So, the house we live in had 8 very large rose bushes. 3 in the front of the house, and 4 in the back yard. I was told these have been there for years.

    When we moved in, the landlord asked if we could just water them once and awhile. We would water them when we thought about it, which usually turned out to be once a week, or every other week.

    After 4 years though, two of them were dead, and two others were not looking so good, so we decided to replace the dead ones. After going to the nursery to purchase the new rose bushes, we started talking to one of the people there about how much water a rose bush needs...

    We found out, that in the High Desert that we are in, we should be watering these roses at LEAST 4 times per week, perhaps more!

    We planted the new roses to replace the dead ones, and gave them all some 'root stabilizer', and started watering them every day for a couple weeks.

    Right now, we have a few rose bushes that are over 6 feet tall, and probably each have about 200 blooms! I have never seen so many rose blooms on one bush in my life!

    The new bushes seem to be doing pretty well, as they are now growing more leaves, along with starting to bloom as well.

    So, long story short, (too late) make sure you find out how to take care of the plants you have, in your particular climate. It looks like we were slowly killing these rose bushes, and didn't even know it...

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Black Panther on Sat May 29 12:40:51 2021
    On 28 May 2021 at 11:48a, Black Panther pondered and said...

    So, long story short, (too late) make sure you find out how to take care of the plants you have, in your particular climate. It looks like we
    were slowly killing these rose bushes, and didn't even know it...

    Here we have a quite a few roses too... but it's not as dry as where you
    live. I do water ours during summer, usually once a week but on the whole we have been lucky with ours and they have done OK without too much hassles.

    There's one we planted a few weeks back called a Chameleon Rose that we
    really like and it's done pretty well. https://bit.ly/3vyQqYr

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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to Black Panther on Sat May 29 11:48:00 2021
    After 4 years though, two of them were dead, and two others were not looking so good, so we decided to replace the dead ones. After going to

    I'm somewhat surprised. I've always found despite a reputation for requiring effort that roses tend to be pretty bullet proof. In the days of my youth we had roses down the fence side of the driveway which took a belting most of the day and were studiously ignored for years. While they didn't end up the best specimens none of them died.

    If you hadn't gone to the nursery you wouldn't have found you need to water more, but I'd be inclined to try some cuttings of the existing old roses. :) They take time to establish but will often grow well.

    Spec


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  • From The Godfather@21:1/165 to Black Panther on Mon May 31 22:24:30 2021
    We planted the new roses to replace the dead ones, and gave them all
    some 'root
    stabilizer', and started watering them every day for a couple weeks.

    Roses also like blood meal; or you can buy the shake and fertilize specifically for "Roses." If you think you have a lot of blooms now .. wait till you fertilize them :)

    After 3 years of waiting, my climbing roses are producing huge blooms, pretty excited. One is climing over our storage shed, two are trying to reach the top of my pergola, and the final two are going over the arbor entrance to my vegetable garden. Really looking forward to seeing them in full bloom this season.

    As for Vegi's .. we've had horrible luck starting ours in our green house this year. This entire spring has been mostly cold and overcast. We still have mornings in the high 40's and just had an overcast day at only 68 degrees (as a high) .. All our starts are very thin, light green, and leaning toward what little sun is available for them. I bought nursery heating pads for them, which keeps the soil temp at the correct setting per type of vegi .. but man .. it's looking like we might be without hatch chili's this year for sure, and unless we can find a bargin on 10 tomato plants, we might be without those also. It's been a very very odd spring for us in Indiana.

    -tG

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  • From Black Panther@21:1/186 to Spectre on Thu Jun 10 11:20:24 2021
    On 29 May 2021, 11:48a, Spectre said the following...

    I'm somewhat surprised. I've always found despite a reputation for requiring ef fort that roses tend to be pretty bullet proof. In the
    days of my youth we had roses down the fence side of the driveway which took a belting most of the day and were studiously ignored for years. While they didn't end up the best specim ens none of them died.

    I had always thought they were pretty bullet proof as well. When we lived in Wisconsin, we had roses that were ignored and just took over the entire area of the back yard. ;)

    I think it is due to the really dry climate we're in now. In the summer, we are usually around 1 - 10% humidity, with very little precipitation...

    If you hadn't gone to the nursery you wouldn't have found you need to water mor e, but I'd be inclined to try some cuttings of the existing
    old roses. :) They take time to establish but will often grow well.

    I may still try taking a cutting from the older roses. I even have a place picked out where I would plant it. :)

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  • From Black Panther@21:1/186 to The Godfather on Thu Jun 10 11:24:40 2021
    On 31 May 2021, 10:24p, The Godfather said the following...

    Roses also like blood meal; or you can buy the shake and fertilize specifically for "Roses." If you think you have a lot of blooms now .. wait till you fertili ze them :)

    I love having all of the blooms on them, until we need to dead-head them...

    I did have some fertilizer that I added this passed spring. When is the best time to do that?

    As for Vegi's .. we've had horrible luck starting ours in our green
    house this y ear. This entire spring has been mostly cold and overcast.

    We really haven't done much with veggies while in New Mexico. One year, we did try with some raised beds, and we had SO many insects eating the plants, we couldn't keep up with them. I think they were called squash bugs or something like that.

    There is an area in our back yard that I think was used as a garden at one point, but if we try using that for a garden, I'm afraid our dogs will try digging the plants up...

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  • From The Godfather@21:1/165 to Black Panther on Fri Aug 6 11:48:48 2021
    I did have some fertilizer that I added this passed spring. When is the best time to do that?

    Ummmmmmmm.... I forget, I always have to read the instructions when it comes to roses. However, beit right or wrong (again refer to instructions) I tend to give them the proper amount after the first blooming is complete, as I have found the heat of summer tends to deplete the nutrients you would have applied in spring. I avoid fall, as I don't want to spike growth prior to the first frost and damage the plant. Our first bloom was quite the spectacle this season, however since they've been dead headed (early junish?) I'm just now seeing tons of new stem growth (a few weeks after applying blood meal) and hoping for another round of blooms!

    -tG

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  • From N1uro@21:4/107 to All on Sat Aug 7 09:27:00 2021
    Thanks for reading this...

    I have 2 pots with Gazanias in them. One is 4 years old, the other 3. The 4 year old is full of buds this year but the 3 yr old one has nice dark green leaves but NO buds! Someone suggested it may have too much nitrogen in the soil. I suppose it's possible as I added some cow maneur into it however
    what does one do to neutralize it? It's getting a bit late in the season
    and I'd like for it to have at least 1 round of buds before fall.

    Thanks.


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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to N1uro on Fri Aug 20 11:40:49 2021
    On 07 Aug 2021 at 09:27a, N1uro pondered and said...

    Thanks for reading this...

    I have 2 pots with Gazanias in them. One is 4 years old, the other 3.
    The 4 year old is full of buds this year but the 3 yr old one has nice dark green leaves but NO buds! Someone suggested it may have too much nitrogen in the soil. I suppose it's possible as I added some cow maneur into it however what does one do to neutralize it? It's getting a bit
    late in the season and I'd like for it to have at least 1 round of buds before fall.

    This will be a 'I'll ask my wife question' :)

    Meantime I found this

    Name: treasure flower, gazania, Gazania rigens and varieties
    Height: ground-covering herbaceous perennial usually no more than 50cm high Foliage: green or grey-green, narrow, pointed leaves; some are downy; some
    have a light underside.
    Climate: sub-tropical to temperate; drought-hardy; frost-tolerant.
    Soil: well-drained; tolerant of poor soils; the better the soil, the better
    the plant will grow and flower.
    Position: full sun; tolerant of light shade, but too much shade inhibits flowering.
    Flowering: daisy flowers in bright colours and multi-colours, some with dark centres.
    Feeding: use a long-term, controlled-release fertiliser.
    Watering: water when conditions are hot and dry; good drainage is essential.

    Best, Paul

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  • From N1uro@21:4/107 to Avon on Fri Aug 20 08:38:00 2021
    Hey Avon;

    Avon wrote to N1uro <=-

    This will be a 'I'll ask my wife question' :)

    Not a green thumb either I see <G>

    Meantime I found this

    Name: treasure flower, gazania, Gazania rigens and varieties
    Height: ground-covering herbaceous perennial usually no more than 50cm high Foliage: green or grey-green, narrow, pointed leaves; some are
    downy; some have a light underside.
    Climate: sub-tropical to temperate; drought-hardy; frost-tolerant.
    Soil: well-drained; tolerant of poor soils; the better the soil, the better the plant will grow and flower.
    Position: full sun; tolerant of light shade, but too much shade
    inhibits flowering.
    Flowering: daisy flowers in bright colours and multi-colours, some with dark centres.
    Feeding: use a long-term, controlled-release fertiliser.
    Watering: water when conditions are hot and dry; good drainage is essential.

    Thanks, that much I already knew. The one pot that's not growing any buds
    has nice dark narrow pointy green leaves and they're quite firm so I know
    it's far from being dead. One lady suggested it has too much nitrogen in
    the soil - but didn't tell me how to neutralize it : \


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  • From Captain Obvious@21:1/157 to N1uro on Fri Aug 20 16:46:46 2021
    On 20 Aug 2021, N1uro said the following...

    has nice dark narrow pointy green leaves and they're quite firm so I know it's far from being dead. One lady suggested it has too much nitrogen in the soil - but didn't tell me how to neutralize it : \

    Woodchips or sawdust work. Regular old dyed mulch as well.

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to N1uro on Sat Aug 21 14:13:10 2021
    On 20 Aug 2021 at 08:38a, N1uro pondered and said...

    Thanks, that much I already knew. The one pot that's not growing any buds has nice dark narrow pointy green leaves and they're quite firm so I know it's far from being dead. One lady suggested it has too much nitrogen in the soil - but didn't tell me how to neutralize it : \

    My wife says just leave it, it may not flower this year but you should get a crop of flowers next year.

    I did do a google search on them and there were some comments about the nitrogen promoting healthy flowering at the expense of flowering.

    Watering seems to be key to getting good flowering too from what I can tell.

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to N1uro on Sat Aug 21 14:13:44 2021
    On 20 Aug 2021 at 08:38a, N1uro pondered and said...

    This will be a 'I'll ask my wife question' :)

    Not a green thumb either I see <G>

    Nope but also learning and to be fair learning more in the last few years
    than prior when I was less interested in such things :)

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  • From N1uro@21:4/107 to Captain Obvious on Sat Aug 21 10:07:00 2021
    Hello Captain Obvious;

    Captain Obvious wrote to N1uro <=-

    Woodchips or sawdust work. Regular old dyed mulch as well.

    If I can find some sawdust maybe I'll sprinkle some in the pot and see if
    that does the trick, thanks!

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  • From N1uro@21:4/107 to Avon on Sat Aug 21 10:09:00 2021
    Hello Avon;

    Avon wrote to N1uro <=-

    My wife says just leave it, it may not flower this year but you should
    get a crop of flowers next year.

    That was my thought as well. It's quite healthy that I know.

    I did do a google search on them and there were some comments about the nitrogen promoting healthy flowering at the expense of flowering.

    Watering seems to be key to getting good flowering too from what I can tell.

    Interesting. With the rain we've had this year and about 6" coming this weekend from Hurricane Henri, that's not an issue. I just hope it doesn't
    get blown away!

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  • From N1uro@21:4/107 to Avon on Sat Aug 21 10:09:00 2021
    Hello Avon;

    Avon wrote to N1uro <=-

    Nope but also learning and to be fair learning more in the last few
    years than prior when I was less interested in such things :)

    You're never too old to learn :)

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to N1uro on Sun Aug 22 16:56:27 2021
    On 21 Aug 2021 at 10:09a, N1uro pondered and said...

    Nope but also learning and to be fair learning more in the last few years than prior when I was less interested in such things :)

    You're never too old to learn :)

    Today it was learning to prune roses. I got a basic 101 lesson from my wife then let a poor hapless rose that she knew could take my hacking :)

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  • From N1uro@21:4/107 to Avon on Sun Aug 22 18:05:00 2021
    Hey Avon;

    Avon wrote to N1uro <=-

    Today it was learning to prune roses. I got a basic 101 lesson from my wife then let a poor hapless rose that she knew could take my hacking
    :)

    Now you'll have to keep us all informed as to it's life status <G>

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to N1uro on Mon Aug 23 19:26:13 2021
    On 22 Aug 2021 at 06:05p, N1uro pondered and said...

    Today it was learning to prune roses. I got a basic 101 lesson from m wife then let a poor hapless rose that she knew could take my hacking :)

    Now you'll have to keep us all informed as to it's life status <G>

    Well I hacked at it for about 30 mins and did a lot of anguishing as to if I was giving it the correct haircut or not :)

    I probably over thought it a bit to be fair :)

    Tomorrow it gets a proper haircut with the expert barber in our house.

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  • From N1uro@21:4/107 to Avon on Mon Aug 23 21:05:00 2021
    Hello Avon;

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    Tomorrow it gets a proper haircut with the expert barber in our house.

    It's a good thing I don't prune flowers. If I gave them haircuts as I do my own they'd be shaven down to the soil :)

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to N1uro on Tue Aug 24 14:23:12 2021
    On 23 Aug 2021 at 09:05p, N1uro pondered and said...

    It's a good thing I don't prune flowers. If I gave them haircuts as I
    do my own they'd be shaven down to the soil :)

    I can do similar things with my lawnmower set to a low catcher setting :)

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  • From N1uro@21:4/107 to Avon on Tue Aug 24 09:17:00 2021
    Hey Avon;

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    I can do similar things with my lawnmower set to a low catcher setting
    :)

    I have a couple of dead trees I wish I could do that to. They're just a bit
    too big.

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to N1uro on Wed Aug 25 15:19:16 2021
    On 24 Aug 2021 at 09:17a, N1uro pondered and said...

    I can do similar things with my lawnmower set to a low catcher settin :)

    I have a couple of dead trees I wish I could do that to. They're just a bit too big.

    It's the rocks and other solid lumps you have to watch out for, oh and adults and kids too :)

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  • From N1uro@21:4/107 to Avon on Wed Aug 25 11:34:00 2021
    Hey Avon;

    Avon wrote to N1uro <=-

    It's the rocks and other solid lumps you have to watch out for, oh and adults and kids too :)

    Sometimes it's difficult to determine lumps from adults <G>

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