Hej August!

that part with the "�" isn't critical to the message! :D

Says you! Tell that to the Dutch.

Het leven is goed,
Maurice

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On Sun, 3 Mar 2024 23:35:14 GMT
"Maurice Kinal -> August Abolins" <113@464.280.2> wrote:

that part with the "�" isn't critical to the message! :D

Says you! Tell that to the Dutch.

As far as I'm concerned, that part wasn't in the official body of the commuicative message. :D A tagline string is an optional decoration completely separate.

Bet.. kad man būtu jāizpaužas latviski, man būtu jāveic pasākumi Silfeņa/NNTP izmantošanai.

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Hej August!

<Esc>:read !trans -b -no-ansi -s lv -t en "kad man būtu jāizpaužas latviski, man būtu jāveic pasākumi Silfeņa/NNTP izmantošanai."
Did you mean: kad man būtu jāizpaužas latviski, man būtu jāveic pasākumi Siliņa/NNTP izmantošanai.
when I would have to express myself in Latvian, I would have to take measures to use Silfenis/NNTP.

It looks like 'trans' didn't care much for "Silfeņa". Other than that it looks to be accurate.

Het leven is goed,
Maurice

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On Mon, 4 Mar 2024 00:56:16 GMT
"Maurice Kinal -> August Abolins" <113@464.280.2> wrote:

It looks like 'trans' didn't care much for "Silfeņa". Other than that
it looks to be accurate.

Yeah.. I kinda mispelled Sylpheed, as Silfeņa ..but even the correct spelling (perhaps, Silfeda) would have been an untranslatable thing anyway.

So... what is this trans that you are using? Is it just a commandline-based translation function where you just copy-paste the text into it in a linux terminal?

I did a little hunting around on the internet and found a shell called trans, but that would be a different beast, right?

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Hej August!

So... what is this trans that you are using?

<Esc>:read !trans -V -no-ansi | sed 's/^/ > /'

Translate Shell 0.9.7.1

platform Linux
terminal type linux
bi-di emulator [N/A]
gawk (GNU Awk) 5.3.0
fribidi (GNU FriBidi) 1.0.12
audio player [NOT INSTALLED]
terminal pager less
web browser xdg-open
user locale en_CA.utf8 (English)
host language en
source language auto
target language en
translation engine auto
proxy [NONE]
user-agent Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/104.0.0.0 Safari/537.36 Edg/104.0.1293.54
ip version [DEFAULT]
theme default
init file [NONE]

Report bugs to: https://github.com/soimort/translate-shell/issues

I got the above version from github which I created a v0.9.7.1 tarball from. I have been toying with it using vim's drop to shell command (!) and was thinking it would make an interesting internetted BBS door but haven't really done anything that dramatic ... yet. Looking at the 'user-agent:' line I get the impression it will play nicely with the correct versions of many web browsers. As you can tell from my call from vim that I am turing off ansi support, but it does work on the 'linux' terminal, which in this case is a full sized 1080p terminal capable of framebuffer graphics if that is something of interest. Also works in 'tmux' which I use to split the terminal into smaller terminals that I can bounce around. No need for a GUI which I currently don't bother with on the EuroPoint.

Anyhow it works great for creating text documents in other languages which is how I've been testing utf-8 capabilities. At the moment it looks like right-to-left languages (eg Hebrew) are displaying some proper word wrapping issues which is my latest test as you have witnessed. I am not sure I'll be taking 'trans' out for a spin other than with vim. Also note I don't have audio turned on the EuroPoint. I haven't tested that functionality but I might on my main system that has all the toys including xorg and firefox, which it *should* play nicely with ... I think. I am not a big fan of GUI apps so I have my doubts it'll get that far. The BBS door idea has a much better chance of actually happening.

Het leven is goed,
Maurice

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