Thanks for the reply digital man.

The answer.* file is displayed before login.js is executed, so you might want your answer.asc a blank/0-byte file (your >answer.ans could contain ANSI since it'll only be displayehd to ANSI-detected terminals).

I did try something similar to this previously, however if a person logs on with their BBC Micro (and a Mode 7 .asc file has been created) as they haven't got to the logon prompt where it loads up their terminal preferences it just shows them the un-formatted file.

You could check the server port in your login.js and take a different control path based on that.

This sound like what I'd like to do, ideally I'd like when they login on port 6502 it sets their formatting as extended ascii on and utf8 and ansi off...but I'm at a loss on how to do that.
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Re: Setting a default terminal type for a specific port
By: vela025 to Digital Man on Wed Feb 14 2024 01:05 pm

Thanks for the reply digital man.

The answer.* file is displayed before login.js is executed, so you might want your answer.asc a blank/0-byte file (your >answer.ans could contain ANSI since it'll only be displayehd to ANSI-detected terminals).

I did try something similar to this previously, however if a person logs on with their BBC Micro (and a Mode 7 .asc file has been created) as they haven't got to the logon prompt where it loads up their terminal preferences it just shows them the un-formatted file.

I'm suggesting a blank/0-byte answer.asc file. Have your login.js file display something to these non-ANSI users if you like, but don't make it an answer.* file.

You could check the server port in your login.js and take a different control path based on that.

This sound like what I'd like to do, ideally I'd like when they login on port 6502 it sets their formatting as extended ascii on and utf8 and ansi off...but I'm at a loss on how to do that.

Something like this in your exec/login.js:

if(client.socket.local_port == 6502) {
console.autoterm = 0;
console.printfile("somefile");
// etc.
}
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Something like this in your exec/login.js:

Ahh OK I think that might be something I could manage, thank you.

I'm currently playing with msglist.js so that it presents nicely in mode 7, however this breaks the ANSI version...could I have two versions of msglist.js (e.g. msglist.js and msglist7.js) and use a similar logic to above to direct the user to the correct version? Or would it be best to instead have an extra menu entry for the adapted msglist.js from the main menu?
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On Wed, 14 Feb 2024 13:46:12 -0800
"Digital Man" (VERT) <VERT!Digital.Man@endofthelinebbs.com> wrote:

Re: Setting a default terminal type for a specific port
By: vela025 to Digital Man on Wed Feb 14 2024 01:05 pm

Thanks for the reply digital man.

The answer.* file is displayed before login.js is executed, so
you might

want your answer.asc a blank/0-byte file (your >answer.ans could
contain ANSI since it'll only be displayehd to ANSI-detected
terminals).

I did try something similar to this previously, however if a
person logs on with their BBC Micro (and a Mode 7 .asc file has
been created) as they haven't got to the logon prompt where it
loads up their terminal preferences it just shows them the
un-formatted file.

I'm suggesting a blank/0-byte answer.asc file. Have your login.js
file display something to these non-ANSI users if you like, but don't
make it an answer.* file.

You could check the server port in your login.js and take a
different

control path based on that.

This sound like what I'd like to do, ideally I'd like when they
login on port 6502 it sets their formatting as extended ascii on
and utf8 and ansi off...but I'm at a loss on how to do that.

Something like this in your exec/login.js:

if(client.socket.local_port == 6502) {
console.autoterm = 0;
console.printfile("somefile");
// etc.
}

He might have to specifically set the terminal type to accept IBM
extended ASCII (CP437) otherwise SBBS will filter out the BBC Mode 7
control codes also./sbbs/exec/load/termdesc.js may help with that.
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On Wed, 14 Feb 2024 14:34:17 -0800
"vela025" (VERT) <VERT!vela025@endofthelinebbs.com> wrote:

Something like this in your exec/login.js:

Ahh OK I think that might be something I could manage, thank you.

I'm currently playing with msglist.js so that it presents nicely in
mode 7, however this breaks the ANSI version...could I have two
versions of msglist.js (e.g. msglist.js and msglist7.js) and use a
similar logic to above to direct the user to the correct version? Or
would it be best to instead have an extra menu entry for the adapted msglist.js from the main menu?

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Rather than trying to get the original to fit, I'd create a new one for
Mode 7 though there's no reason why you couldn't check console.term_supports(USER_ANSI) I suppose and then decide what to do
from there. Keep in mind, if you change anything in exec then you
should move it to mods and if they're ever updated, you'll have to
manually make changes accordingly. That might be why it could be easier
to just create a new version for Mode 7.
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Re: Setting a default terminal type for a specific port
By: vela025 to Digital Man on Wed Feb 14 2024 02:34 pm

Something like this in your exec/login.js:

Ahh OK I think that might be something I could manage, thank you.

I'm currently playing with msglist.js so that it presents nicely in mode 7, however this breaks the ANSI version...could I have two versions of msglist.js (e.g. msglist.js and msglist7.js) and use a similar logic to above to direct the user to the correct version? Or would it be best to instead have an extra menu entry for the adapted msglist.js from the main menu?

It'd be better if you didn't have to break the ANSI "version". Anyway, your msglist.js could detect a "mode 7" terminal somehow and then run msglist7.js (nested). But that's certainly not an ideal design.
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Re: Re: Setting a default terminal type for a specific port
By: nelgin to All on Wed Feb 14 2024 04:29 pm

On Wed, 14 Feb 2024 13:46:12 -0800
"Digital Man" (VERT) <VERT!Digital.Man@endofthelinebbs.com> wrote:

Re: Setting a default terminal type for a specific port
By: vela025 to Digital Man on Wed Feb 14 2024 01:05 pm

Thanks for the reply digital man.

The answer.* file is displayed before login.js is executed, so
you might

want your answer.asc a blank/0-byte file (your >answer.ans could contain ANSI since it'll only be displayehd to ANSI-detected terminals).

I did try something similar to this previously, however if a
person logs on with their BBC Micro (and a Mode 7 .asc file has
been created) as they haven't got to the logon prompt where it
loads up their terminal preferences it just shows them the
un-formatted file.

I'm suggesting a blank/0-byte answer.asc file. Have your login.js
file display something to these non-ANSI users if you like, but don't
make it an answer.* file.

You could check the server port in your login.js and take a
different

control path based on that.

This sound like what I'd like to do, ideally I'd like when they
login on port 6502 it sets their formatting as extended ascii on
and utf8 and ansi off...but I'm at a loss on how to do that.

Something like this in your exec/login.js:

if(client.socket.local_port == 6502) {
console.autoterm = 0;
console.printfile("somefile");
// etc.
}

He might have to specifically set the terminal type to accept IBM
extended ASCII (CP437) otherwise SBBS will filter out the BBC Mode 7
control codes also./sbbs/exec/load/termdesc.js may help with that.

For terminal output, CP437 is the default charset, so no 8th bit filtering should be happening.

When you say "accept IBM extended ASCII", it sounds like you're talking about input (from the user's keyboard), but I think you're talking about output (from the server).
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On Wed, 14 Feb 2024 15:42:40 -0800
"Digital Man" (VERT) <VERT!Digital.Man@endofthelinebbs.com> wrote:

For terminal output, CP437 is the default charset, so no 8th bit
filtering should be happening.

When you say "accept IBM extended ASCII", it sounds like you're
talking about input (from the user's keyboard), but I think you're
talking about output (from the server).

If going through a terminal setup through Default User Settings,
there's an option:

Does your terminal support IBM extended ASCII (CP437)?

If you select No, then the BBS will not send mode 7 characters. This
has to be selected as yes.
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Re: Re: Setting a default terminal type for a specific port
By: nelgin to All on Wed Feb 14 2024 06:07 pm

On Wed, 14 Feb 2024 15:42:40 -0800
"Digital Man" (VERT) <VERT!Digital.Man@endofthelinebbs.com> wrote:

For terminal output, CP437 is the default charset, so no 8th bit
filtering should be happening.

When you say "accept IBM extended ASCII", it sounds like you're
talking about input (from the user's keyboard), but I think you're
talking about output (from the server).

If going through a terminal setup through Default User Settings,
there's an option:

Does your terminal support IBM extended ASCII (CP437)?

If you select No, then the BBS will not send mode 7 characters. This
has to be selected as yes.

Right and "yes" is the default.
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On Wed, 14 Feb 2024 16:25:35 -0800
"Digital Man" (VERT) <VERT!Digital.Man@endofthelinebbs.com> wrote:

Re: Re: Setting a default terminal type for a specific port
By: nelgin to All on Wed Feb 14 2024 06:07 pm

On Wed, 14 Feb 2024 15:42:40 -0800
"Digital Man" (VERT) <VERT!Digital.Man@endofthelinebbs.com> wrote:

For terminal output, CP437 is the default charset, so no 8th bit filtering should be happening.

When you say "accept IBM extended ASCII", it sounds like you're
talking about input (from the user's keyboard), but I think
you're talking about output (from the server).

If going through a terminal setup through Default User Settings,
there's an option:

Does your terminal support IBM extended ASCII (CP437)?

If you select No, then the BBS will not send mode 7 characters.
This has to be selected as yes.

Right and "yes" is the default.

Cool. That should do it then.
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