• Re: [WINServer] New WcListServer wcladmi

    From Winserver.Support@Winserver.Com@1:124/5013 to All on Fri Jan 20 10:12:57 2023
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    Message-ID: <5BEDDA43.205@winserver.com>
    Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2018 15:42:43 -0500
    From: Hector Santos <winserver.support@winserver.com>
    Organization: Santronics Software, Inc
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    To: winserver list <winserver@winserver.com>
    Subject: Re: [WINServer] New WcListServer wcladmin Options
    References: <5BEDD7F4.1060001@winserver.com>
    In-Reply-To: <5BEDD7F4.1060001@winserver.com>
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    Who is this address? leeb@ss-bbs.com

    The mail constantly answers with a 454, which is a retry but it never
    goes thru.

    d:\wc5> wcrun -r html-wcsmq.wcx

    wcSmtpQue version: 2.6
    Connected Server : NTBBS
    Site Name : Santronics Online
    Primary Spool : \spool\santronics
    Smtp spool : \spool\santronics\smtp
    Total Emails : 7
    250-Begin Mail Queue Manager
    #0001 09613W 13 11/15/2018 03:41:28 PM leeb@ss-bbs.com
    454 (454 4.7.1 <leeb@ss-bbs.com>: Relay access denied)
    #0002 09801W 12 11/15/2018 04:06:27 PM leeb@ss-bbs.com
    454 (454 4.7.1 <leeb@ss-bbs.com>: Relay access denied)
    #0003 09909W 12 11/15/2018 04:16:08 PM leeb@ss-bbs.com
    454 (454 4.7.1 <leeb@ss-bbs.com>: Relay access denied)
    #0004 10017W 12 11/15/2018 04:38:07 PM leeb@ss-bbs.com
    454 (454 4.7.1 <leeb@ss-bbs.com>: Relay access denied)
    #0005 10202W 11 11/15/2018 04:04:47 PM leeb@ss-bbs.com
    454 (454 4.7.1 <leeb@ss-bbs.com>: Relay access denied)
    #0006 10309W 11 11/15/2018 04:06:27 PM leeb@ss-bbs.com
    454 (454 4.7.1 <leeb@ss-bbs.com>: Relay access denied)
    #0007 10459W 2 11/15/2018 03:38:50 PM leeb@ss-bbs.com
    454 (454 4.7.1 <leeb@ss-bbs.com>: Relay access denied)
    250 End Mail Queue Manager
    Total Tried : 7

    4yz means RETRY. I will need to consider some rule for a 4yz response
    that shortens the retries for these never make it cases.

    Running the new wcladmin to see what list this user is in:

    D:\wc5>wcladmin -s * leeb@ss-bbs.com
    Wildcat! ListServer Admin v7.0.454.6

    * ListName: *
    * All Subscribers: leeb@ss-bbs.com

    - Active leeb@ss-bbs.com in list winserver
    - Inactive leeb@ss-bbs.com in list list-wildcat-beta
    - Inactive leeb@ss-bbs.com in list announcements
    - Inactive leeb@ss-bbs.com in list list-fidonet
    - Total: 4 Active: 1 Inactive: 3

    I had reactivated all the subscribers in the "winserver" list early
    this week, but it never makes it for him. So I will use wcladmin new
    "-a-" option to deactivate him:

    D:\wc5>wcladmin -a- * leeb@ss-bbs.com
    Wildcat! ListServer Admin v7.0.454.6

    * ListName : *
    * Inactivate Subscribers: leeb@ss-bbs.com

    - Inactivated leeb@ss-bbs.com in list winserver
    - Total: 4 Inactivated: 1


    Cool! :)


    --
    Hector, Engineering & Technical Support
    Santronics Software, Inc.
    http://www.santronics.com (sales)
    http://www.winserver.com (support)
    http://www.winserver.com/AupInfo (Online AUP Help)
    Office: 305-248-3204

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    tel;work:305-248-3204
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    end:vcard

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  • From Tclbbs@Hotmail.Com@1:124/5013 to All on Fri Jan 20 10:12:57 2023
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    From: Frederick Burgess <tclbbs@hotmail.com>
    To: "WINServer@winserver.com" <winserver@winserver.com>
    Subject: RE: [WINServer] New WcListServer wcladmin Options
    Thread-Topic: [WINServer] New WcListServer wcladmin Options
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    Hector:



    Ss-bbs.com is a Chinese website selling (??) phones. They may have been hacked
    or they are trying to spam everybody.



    Fred



    Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10



    ________________________________
    From: listadmin-winserver@winserver.com <listadmin-winserver@winserver.com> on behalf of Hector Santos <winserver.support@winserver.com>
    Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2018 3:42:43 PM
    To: winserver list
    Subject: Re: [WINServer] New WcListServer wcladmin Options

    Who is this address? leeb@ss-bbs.com

    The mail constantly answers with a 454, which is a retry but it never
    goes thru.

    d:\wc5> wcrun -r html-wcsmq.wcx

    wcSmtpQue version: 2.6
    Connected Server : NTBBS
    Site Name : Santronics Online
    Primary Spool : \spool\santronics
    Smtp spool : \spool\santronics\smtp
    Total Emails : 7
    250-Begin Mail Queue Manager
    #0001 09613W 13 11/15/2018 03:41:28 PM leeb@ss-bbs.com
    454 (454 4.7.1 <leeb@ss-bbs.com>: Relay access denied)
    #0002 09801W 12 11/15/2018 04:06:27 PM leeb@ss-bbs.com
    454 (454 4.7.1 <leeb@ss-bbs.com>: Relay access denied)
    #0003 09909W 12 11/15/2018 04:16:08 PM leeb@ss-bbs.com
    454 (454 4.7.1 <leeb@ss-bbs.com>: Relay access denied)
    #0004 10017W 12 11/15/2018 04:38:07 PM leeb@ss-bbs.com
    454 (454 4.7.1 <leeb@ss-bbs.com>: Relay access denied)
    #0005 10202W 11 11/15/2018 04:04:47 PM leeb@ss-bbs.com
    454 (454 4.7.1 <leeb@ss-bbs.com>: Relay access denied)
    #0006 10309W 11 11/15/2018 04:06:27 PM leeb@ss-bbs.com
    454 (454 4.7.1 <leeb@ss-bbs.com>: Relay access denied)
    #0007 10459W 2 11/15/2018 03:38:50 PM leeb@ss-bbs.com
    454 (454 4.7.1 <leeb@ss-bbs.com>: Relay access denied)
    250 End Mail Queue Manager
    Total Tried : 7

    4yz means RETRY. I will need to consider some rule for a 4yz response
    that shortens the retries for these never make it cases.

    Running the new wcladmin to see what list this user is in:

    D:\wc5>wcladmin -s * leeb@ss-bbs.com
    Wildcat! ListServer Admin v7.0.454.6

    * ListName: *
    * All Subscribers: leeb@ss-bbs.com

    - Active leeb@ss-bbs.com in list winserver
    - Inactive leeb@ss-bbs.com in list list-wildcat-beta
    - Inactive leeb@ss-bbs.com in list announcements
    - Inactive leeb@ss-bbs.com in list list-fidonet
    - Total: 4 Active: 1 Inactive: 3

    I had reactivated all the subscribers in the "winserver" list early
    this week, but it never makes it for him. So I will use wcladmin new
    "-a-" option to deactivate him:

    D:\wc5>wcladmin -a- * leeb@ss-bbs.com
    Wildcat! ListServer Admin v7.0.454.6

    * ListName : *
    * Inactivate Subscribers: leeb@ss-bbs.com

    - Inactivated leeb@ss-bbs.com in list winserver
    - Total: 4 Inactivated: 1


    Cool! :)


    --
    Hector, Engineering & Technical Support
    Santronics Software, Inc.
    http://www.santronics.com (sales)
    http://www.winserver.com (support)
    http://www.winserver.com/AupInfo (Online AUP Help)
    Office: 305-248-3204



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    From: Terry Roati <terryroati@outlook.com>
    To: "WINServer@winserver.com" <WINServer@winserver.com>
    Subject: RE: [WINServer] New WcListServer wcladmin Options
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    Hello Hector,

    I am working on the security issues with the VM running XP you mentioned.

    On the mail issue, was it one user that caused your problems or a combination with you domain being added to a blacklist. I would like to understand this better.

    One solution I see might help is a mobile phone verifier in combination with a web / telnet verifier so that there is a two step verification used for validation being an email address and a mobile phone number. This way a user on
    WINS can use an alias on the BBS and the sysop can be fairly certain of the user. In most countries now mobile phone numbers are now secure and traceable by authorities if required.

    Terry

    From: listadmin-winserver@winserver.com <listadmin-winserver@winserver.com> On Behalf Of Frederick Burgess
    Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 11:10 AM
    To: WINServer@winserver.com
    Subject: Re: [WINServer] New WcListServer wcladmin Options

    No problem Hector, we do a Lee in here, but ss-bbs is a spam site



    Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S7, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone


    -------- Original message --------
    From: Hector Santos <winserver.support@winserver.com<mailto:winserver.support@winserver.com>>
    Date: 11/15/18 16:32 (GMT-05:00)
    To: WINServer@winserver.com<mailto:WINServer@winserver.com>
    Subject: Re: [WINServer] New WcListServer wcladmin Options


    On 11/15/2018 3:57 PM, Frederick Burgess wrote:

    Hector asked:
    Who is this address? leeb@ss-bbs.com<mailto:leeb@ss-bbs.com>

    Ss-bbs.com is a Chinese website selling (??) phones. They may have
    been hacked or they are trying to spam everybody.

    Finally finished translating it. It is not a "Sale" site unless you
    want "Pretty girls doing things"

    Fred


    Oh really?

    So whoever was "Lee" was, was using this domain? Interesting. OK, so
    I can delete the "lee@ss-bbs.com<mailto:lee@ss-bbs.com>" address from the wcListServe
    database and black list the ss-bbs.com domain.

    D:\wc5>wcladmin -d * leeb@ss-bbs.com<mailto:leeb@ss-bbs.com>
    Wildcat! ListServer Admin v7.0.454.6

    * ListName : *
    * Delete Subscribers : leeb@ss-bbs.com<mailto:leeb@ss-bbs.com>

    * Press Y to Continue or ESC to exit: Y
    - Deleted leeb@ss-bbs.com<mailto:leeb@ss-bbs.com> in list winserver
    - Deleted leeb@ss-bbs.com<mailto:leeb@ss-bbs.com> in list list-wildcat-beta
    - Deleted leeb@ss-bbs.com<mailto:leeb@ss-bbs.com> in list announcements
    - Deleted leeb@ss-bbs.com<mailto:leeb@ss-bbs.com> in list list-fidonet

    Cool. Thanks for the info, Fred.

    --
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    Santronics Software, Inc. http://www.santronics.com<https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=h ttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.santronics.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C83652c2acb39493f377e08d64c299d 78%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636780138954764380&sdata=fp7q5m mKMix96Ju208%2FKp4zBf3G8WNT8Oua%2Fa6vAHDE%3D&reserved=0> (sales) http://www.winserver.com<https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=ht tp%3A%2F%2Fwww.winserver.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C83652c2acb39493f377e08d64c299d78 %7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636780138954764380&sdata=p7CrEsd4 TrN8f0WilTVGqJROxIVLl5Js4xKwPmXZqfc%3D&reserved=0> (support) http://www.winserver.com/AupInfo<https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com /?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.winserver.com%2FAupInfo&data=02%7C01%7C%7C83652c2acb3949 3f377e08d64c299d78%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636780138954764 380&sdata=kkR%2Fc1I5rhTLTMtGjxkKN9bIOg0Sn3BMobAZfV4Ey0I%3D&reserved=0> (Online AUP Help)
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    The easiest and fastest solution, is to change your DNS with a new ip. I had to
    do that back in the early 2000s. I know Hector has multiple static ips if not,
    assign santronics ip to winserver and vice versa problem solved. Unless the domain is black listed, it is usually the ip address.

    Johnny
    ________________________________
    From: listadmin-winserver@winserver.com <listadmin-winserver@winserver.com> on behalf of Terry Roati <terryroati@outlook.com>
    Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 10:51 PM
    To: WINServer@winserver.com
    Subject: RE: [WINServer] New WcListServer wcladmin Options


    Hello Hector,



    I am working on the security issues with the VM running XP you mentioned.



    On the mail issue, was it one user that caused your problems or a combination with you domain being added to a blacklist. I would like to understand this better.



    One solution I see might help is a mobile phone verifier in combination with a web / telnet verifier so that there is a two step verification used for validation being an email address and a mobile phone number. This way a user on
    WINS can use an alias on the BBS and the sysop can be fairly certain of the user. In most countries now mobile phone numbers are now secure and traceable by authorities if required.



    Terry



    From: listadmin-winserver@winserver.com <listadmin-winserver@winserver.com> On Behalf Of Frederick Burgess
    Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 11:10 AM
    To: WINServer@winserver.com
    Subject: Re: [WINServer] New WcListServer wcladmin Options



    No problem Hector, we do a Lee in here, but ss-bbs is a spam site







    Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S7, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone





    -------- Original message --------

    From: Hector Santos <winserver.support@winserver.com<mailto:winserver.support@winserver.com>>

    Date: 11/15/18 16:32 (GMT-05:00)

    To: WINServer@winserver.com<mailto:WINServer@winserver.com>

    Subject: Re: [WINServer] New WcListServer wcladmin Options



    On 11/15/2018 3:57 PM, Frederick Burgess wrote:

    Hector asked:
    Who is this address? leeb@ss-bbs.com<mailto:leeb@ss-bbs.com>

    Ss-bbs.com is a Chinese website selling (??) phones. They may have
    been hacked or they are trying to spam everybody.

    Finally finished translating it. It is not a €Sale€ site unless you
    want €Pretty girls doing things€

    Fred


    Oh really?

    So whoever was "Lee" was, was using this domain? Interesting. OK, so
    I can delete the "lee@ss-bbs.com<mailto:lee@ss-bbs.com>" address from the wcListServe
    database and black list the ss-bbs.com domain.

    D:\wc5>wcladmin -d * leeb@ss-bbs.com<mailto:leeb@ss-bbs.com>
    Wildcat! ListServer Admin v7.0.454.6

    * ListName : *
    * Delete Subscribers : leeb@ss-bbs.com<mailto:leeb@ss-bbs.com>

    * Press Y to Continue or ESC to exit: Y
    - Deleted leeb@ss-bbs.com<mailto:leeb@ss-bbs.com> in list winserver
    - Deleted leeb@ss-bbs.com<mailto:leeb@ss-bbs.com> in list list-wildcat-beta
    - Deleted leeb@ss-bbs.com<mailto:leeb@ss-bbs.com> in list announcements
    - Deleted leeb@ss-bbs.com<mailto:leeb@ss-bbs.com> in list list-fidonet

    Cool. Thanks for the info, Fred.

    --
    Hector, Engineering & Technical Support
    Santronics Software, Inc. http://www.santronics.com<https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=h ttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.santronics.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C83652c2acb39493f377e08d64c299d 78%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636780138954764380&sdata=fp7q5m mKMix96Ju208%2FKp4zBf3G8WNT8Oua%2Fa6vAHDE%3D&reserved=0> (sales) http://www.winserver.com<https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=ht tp%3A%2F%2Fwww.winserver.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C83652c2acb39493f377e08d64c299d78 %7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636780138954764380&sdata=p7CrEsd4 TrN8f0WilTVGqJROxIVLl5Js4xKwPmXZqfc%3D&reserved=0> (support) http://www.winserver.com/AupInfo<https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com /?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.winserver.com%2FAupInfo&data=02%7C01%7C%7C83652c2acb3949 3f377e08d64c299d78%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636780138954764 380&sdata=kkR%2Fc1I5rhTLTMtGjxkKN9bIOg0Sn3BMobAZfV4Ey0I%3D&reserved=0> (Online AUP Help)
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