gpggpg: WARNING: no command supplied. Trying to guess what you mean ...
gpggpg: WARNING: no command supplied. Trying to guess what you mean ...
Do you guys know how to use the gpg live editor?
I get:
-[begin screen output]-
Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
gpg
gpg: WARNING: no command supplied. Trying to guess what you mean ...
gpg: Go ahead and type your message ...
This is a private message...
^C
gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.
gpg: processing message failed: Unknown system error
So a cmd.exe is started here, with 'gpg' as command.
C: \>> gpg
Did you have the option to type arguments here, or was the
<enter> automatic?
gpg: WARNING: no command supplied. Trying to guess what you
mean... gpg: Go ahead and type your message...
This is a private message...
^C
To do something valid here you will have to enter or paste
something that gpg can understand. So either a ascii encoded
key or pgp message. Something
that starts with the usual "-----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE-----" etc...
(You can paste by right clicking in the window or the window
top bar, and selecting paste).
You pressed ctrl-c, I think, before entering anything that
would be meaningfull content for 'gpg'...
C: \>> gpg
Did you have the option to type arguments here, or was the
<enter> automatic?
I just type gpg + ENTER. Apparently that is an option. ;)
gpg: WARNING: no command supplied. Trying to guess what you
mean... gpg: Go ahead and type your message...
...and then it sits there waiting for the message to be typed.
I start to type my message, but there is no obvious way to save it.
To do something valid here you will have to enter or paste
something that gpg can understand. So either a ascii encoded
key or pgp message. Something
that starts with the usual "-----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE-----" etc...
(You can paste by right clicking in the window or the window
top bar, and selecting paste).
Nope. The gpg editor does not dump the contents that I have in clipboard.
You pressed ctrl-c, I think, before entering anything that
would be meaningfull content for 'gpg'...
Yes, ^C ultimately killed the session. But none of the --commands on a line by line basis did anything either.
The gpg editor is a mystery to me.
Doesn't your linux version have the live editor feature too?
But you just meant the 'gpg' command line util.
I start to type my message, but there is no obvious way to save it.
That's right. You have to tell it on the command line with the correct
options and commands what it needs to do with what you type.
Nope. The gpg editor does not dump the contents that I have in
clipboard.
It's what you tell cmd.exe to do with what's in the clipboard... Stop
calling it the 'gpg editor'! It's not an editor. It's a command line util
that gets its input from "stdin" that's provided to it by the shell
(cmd.exe) it's running in.
I can have it do something interactively without using input or output
files. (But it's not a "live editor"! ;))
For instance:
wilfred@wilnux5:~> gpg -sea -r 'August Abolins'
Use this key anyway? (y/N) y
Hi how are you doing?
After the message about the passphrase, I get a seperate window to enter
my passphrase. And I typed a ^d, after my "How are you doing?" line, to
end my input (to the shell it's running in).
This is a private message...
^C
I start to type my message, but there is no obvious way to save it.
After the message about the passphrase, I get a seperate window to enter
my passphrase.
And I typed a ^d, after my "How are you doing?" line, to end my input
(to the shell it's running in).
i don't know if this will help but i ran a quick search
https://www.google.com/search?q=windows+gpg+how+to+terminate+a+message
maybe they'll help? if not, i guess they at least point to a gpg
support group...
seems to me that the standard CTRL-Z should work as it has done
for the last 30+ years... i've never used the software in
question so that is definitely an eWAG
Tommi should be able to read it too.Â
Tommi should be able to read it too.
Yes I can read it, but not in Thunderbird. I had to copy/paste it
elsewhere to decrypt.
That's right. You have to tell it on the command line with the
correct options and commands what it needs to do with what you type.
Update: I *can* dump the contents of my clipboard in that area. But how do I save the results
and start the encryption process?
If gpg.exe is allowed without initial arguments/options, I am
surprised that it runs at all.
It's what you tell cmd.exe to do with what's in the clipboard...
Stop calling it the 'gpg editor'! It's not an editor. It's a command
line util that gets its input from "stdin" that's provided to it by
the shell (cmd.exe) it's running in.
OK, I get that. But I launch gpg.exe, it runs and is "Waiting for
input". It does not fail. It sits there waiting for the message
content. Fine. Then, how do I finish that process?
If it expects all parameters/arguments at the command-line, then I am surprised that it runs at all. If using it without arguments makes not sense then I would expect it to issue a warning and exit immediately.
I can have it do something interactively without using input or output
files. (But it's not a "live editor"! ;))
It behaves like a very basic editor. Backspace works. Insert works. IT continues a "message line" until I press enter. Then, I can continue on another line.
OK. I started gpg with -->C:\gpg -sea -r wilfred
Then I got the key prompt like above.
Then I start typing a message.
But how do I tell the program I am done?
When I perform a ^d, it just sits there.
I don't know how to trigger the prompt for a passphrase.
After the message about the passphrase, I get a seperate window to
enter my passphrase. And I typed a ^d, after my "How are you doing?"
line, to end my input (to the shell it's running in).
I guess I need to see someone doing it.
I know how to use gpg with pre-written message files, and produce
armoured output files. But I want to understand why the live, type as
you go method does not work for me.
Sample session:
C:\Documents and Settings\User>gpg -sea -r wilfred
gpg: 3AC0573E2D3482F3: There is no assurance this key belongs to the
named user
sub rsa4096/3AC0573E2D3482F3 2017-10-25 Wilfred van Velzen <wvvelzen@gmail.com>
Primary key fingerprint: D50E CD4F 514B 75DC 0A06 4F89 3BB3 7DA8 4A97 932B
Subkey fingerprint: E2C3 89A4 BA14 0E9D 7ABF E46D 3AC0 573E 2D34 82F3
It is NOT certain that the key belongs to the person named
in the user ID. If you *really* know what you are doing,
you may answer the next question with yes.
Use this key anyway? (y/N) y
will this work?
^D
^D
will this work?
--done
/quit
-exit
Arggghhhh!
What am I missing?
This is a private message...
^C
I start to type my message, but there is no obvious way to save it.
seems to me that the standard CTRL-Z should work as it has done for the last 30+ years... i've never used the software in question so that is definitely an eWAG ;)
After the message about the passphrase, I get a seperate window to
enter my passphrase. And I typed a ^d, after my "How are you doing?"
line, to end my input (to the shell it's running in).
THANKS! That as a good lead.
And here is my answer.
Tommi should be able to read it too. (How I did that is a secret!) :)
-----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE-----
You wrote in the ecrypted part:
And I typed a ^d, after my "How are you
doing?" line, to end my input (to the shell it's running in).
Ah.. that's a little closer to what I needed.
Maybe in unix you can do this:
How are you doing?^d
But I can't.
Maybe in the unix world it works as above.
But I am Win32/DOS
I have to do it this way:
How are you doing<Enter>^z
Hitting the <Enter> key is essential, and ^z seems to be the Win/DOS equivalent to end the stdin properly.
And.. sometimes it seems there is no response. There is a long delay
before the passphrase window pops up.
The first time I used pgp way back in 1992-1994 it *was* on a unix
machine.
But it seems to me that if gpg is launched without any parameters, it should output a message "Missing options" or something like that and
then terminate.
When it detects valid parameters/options, and spits out:
gpg: Go ahead and type your message ...
...it should also include something like "When finished with your
message, enter ^Z" to complete.
 AA> Tommi should be able to read it too.
Yes I can read it, but not in Thunderbird. I had to copy/paste it
elsewhere to decrypt.
Do you mean the outter one? That worked at both of my TB installations.
I've keys from 1993 of which I forgot the passphrase. :-(
But I do have a working key from 1994! ;)
last 30+ years... i've never used the software in question so that is definitely an eWAG ;)I start to type my message, but there is no obvious way to save it.
seems to me that the standard CTRL-Z should work as it has done for the
When I type Ctrl-Z in my linux shell it has the same effect as Ctrl-C: gpgends
and I back at the shell prompt.
Let's see if I can use them. ;-)But I do have a working key from 1994! ;)
I just found some 20+ years old PGP keyring files from my OS/2 machine.
 AA> Tommi should be able to read it too.Â
Yes I can read it, but not in Thunderbird. I had to copy/paste it
elsewhere to decrypt.
I've keys from 1993 of which I forgot the passphrase. :-(
But I do have a working key from 1994! ;)
I just found some 20+ years old PGP keyring files from my OS/2 machine. Let's see if I can use them. ;-)
processWhen I type Ctrl-Z in my linux shell it has the same effect as Ctrl-C:
gpg ends and I back at the shell prompt.
yeah, i thought about that after i sent the message but it was aimed at a win/DOS user so no problems there...
on my linux CTRL-Z doesn't terminate the program... it suspends the
but leaves it in memory... you can then use the fg command to bring thejob
back to living action in the foreground... if you have more than one process you have done CTRL-Z on, you can bring them back by "fg x" where 'x' is job number found by running the "jobs" command...
on my linux CTRL-Z doesn't terminate the program... it suspends the
process but leaves it in memory... you can then use the fg command
to bring the job back to living action in the foreground... if you
have more than one process you have done CTRL-Z on, you can bring
them back by "fg x" where 'x' is job number found by running the
"jobs" command...
Actually that was what happend in my shell too. But I didn't notice
what was happening. I could actually find the gpg job where I
tested Ctrl-Z a couple of days back. It was still in the background
of my shell. ;-)
I've killed it now. Thanks for the learning experience! ;)
I've keys from 1993 of which I forgot the passphrase. :-(
But I do have a working key from 1994! ;)
I just found some 20+ years old PGP keyring files from my OS/2 machine.
Let's see if I can use them. ;-)
Yeah, more keys! ;)
I just found some 20+ years old PGP keyring files from my OS/2
machine. Let's see if I can use them. ;-)
Yeah, more keys! ;)
Yeah! :D :D
I found some DSA keys for email addresses that are not is use. :)
I found some DSA keys for email addresses that are not is use. :)
And can you use them or revoke them? (aka do you know their passphrases?)
Tommi should be able to read it too.
Yes I can read it, but not in Thunderbird. I had to copy/paste
it elsewhere to decrypt.
Do you mean the outter one? That worked at both of my TB
installations.
Yes. I just tried again with this TB 68.2.2 in Linux, but the
result is still the same.
Yes. I just tried again with this TB 68.2.2 in Linux, but the
result is still the same.
Just to confirm, are we talking about the same test, the one with:
X-JAM-MSGID: 2:221/360.0 5e16299e
If so, it works here. I'll email you pictures of what I see.
I have Enigmail configured for Automatical Decrypt/Verify.
BTW.. When I am viewing that message in a fresh session, there is a bit
of a delay (maybe 5 seconds) before the passphrase pops up. Maybe
you're not waiting long enough, or another window is sitting on top of it?
--- Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101Thunderbird/60.9.1
--- Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101
Thunderbird/60.9.1
But maybe there is the reason. I updated my TB's to 68.x.x.
This 17.0.11 ESR has no problems. :)
--- Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20131118 Thunderbird/17.0.11
********* *BEGIN ENCRYPTED or SIGNED PART* *********
--- Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101
Thunderbird/60.9.1
But maybe there is the reason. I updated my TB's to 68.x.x.
This 17.0.11 ESR has no problems. :)
--- Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20131118 Thunderbird/17.0.11
VERY interesting. TB reminds me that there is a 68.3.1 version
available. I'll stick with 60.9.1 thank you very much!
It's disappointing when a feature you are familiar with is suddenly
broken in the "latest and greatest" version. That's not so great.
VERY interesting. TB reminds me that there is a 68.3.1 version
available. I'll stick with 60.9.1 thank you very much!
Now I updated to 68.4.1. And once again it works. WTF?!
The old truth is still there: if it works, dont try to fix it.
Now I updated to 68.4.1. And once again it works. WTF?!
The old truth is still there: if it works, dont try to fix it.
Is the problem with loading ng messages working better?… I am referring
to when you select one of the subscribed areas in rbb.bbs.fi, go to a
new header that hasn't been read, and the body of the message is blank, UNLESS you close TB and reload it.
It's still an occasional problem with this 60.9.1
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