• Harris gets endorsement

    From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ALL on Wed Oct 2 08:54:00 2024
    Longtime Oklahoma Republican Mickey Edwards makes waves with Kamala Harris endorsement

    A longtime Republican Oklahoma legislator and Heritage Foundation trustee
    is making waves this week after he endorsed Democratic nominee Kamala
    Harris.

    https://www.oklahoman.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/09/16/heritage-foun
    dation-trustee-mickey-edwards-oklahoma-gop-republican-endorses-kamala-harris/752
    49204007/

    https://tinyurl.com/a2nujk26

    If the Heritage Foundation sounds familiar, they are the folks behind
    Project 2025. The Foundation has stated that Edwards had nothing to do
    with the writing of the document, but it is still interesting.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Mike Powell on Wed Oct 2 10:05:44 2024
    If the Heritage Foundation sounds familiar, they are the folks behind Project 2025. The Foundation has stated that Edwards had nothing to do with the writing of the document, but it is still interesting.

    What else does the Heritage Foundation do besides make fake documents to smear Trump? If they wrote a book about "Project 2025" it would become a best seller.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Thu Oct 3 10:27:00 2024
    What else does the Heritage Foundation do besides make fake documents to smear >Trump? If they wrote a book about "Project 2025" it would become a best seller.

    Wait, so now we've gone from "Project 2025 wasn't written by Trump or Vance
    but has a lot of good stuff in it" to "it is fake and written to smear
    Trump"?

    So, where'd the "good stuff" go? What is the next leap?


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Mike Powell on Thu Oct 3 10:01:22 2024
    On 03 Oct 2024, Mike Powell said the following...

    Wait, so now we've gone from "Project 2025 wasn't written by Trump or Vance but has a lot of good stuff in it" to "it is fake and written to smear Trump"?

    So, where'd the "good stuff" go? What is the next leap?


    Project 2025 was not written by the Trump team and has nothing to do with Trump et. al.

    Project 2025 was written by the Heritage Foundation and ALL the contributors are cited.. ALL...

    Though there are some "cool" ideas in there. There is some red meat for the Democrats to spread around... For example... Apparently in the document they say there should be a ban on abortion, stuff like that.

    Trump and Vance have repeatedly stated they have nothing to do with the project... But the left-media keep letting the Democrats push that narrative.

    If you want to know Trump's agenda it's on his site... Agenda 47...

    Put down the Kool Aide

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Mike Powell on Thu Oct 3 10:32:06 2024
    What else does the Heritage Foundation do besides make fake documents to >Trump? If they wrote a book about "Project 2025" it would become a best >seller.

    Wait, so now we've gone from "Project 2025 wasn't written by Trump or Vance but has a lot of good stuff in it" to "it is fake and written to smear Trump"?

    I still stand by both of those statements. It had some good stuff in it, some bad stuff too, but it was only made to smear Trump, and the evidence is in the fact that it wasn't written by Trump nor Vance, and also in that one of the members of the organization that credits itself for writing it is donating millions of dollars to Kamala.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to IB JOE on Fri Oct 4 09:51:00 2024
    Wait, so now we've gone from "Project 2025 wasn't written by Trump or Vance but has a lot of good stuff in it" to "it is fake and written to smear Trump"?

    So, where'd the "good stuff" go? What is the next leap?

    Project 2025 was not written by the Trump team and has nothing to do with Trum
    et. al.

    Project 2025 was written by the Heritage Foundation and ALL the contributors are cited.. ALL...

    I was not questioning that... I was questioning the shift from "has a lot of good stuff" to "stuff to smear Trump" which, IMHO, would indicate it doesn't contain any "good stuff."

    It is difficult to keep up with whatever today's version of "the Truth" is.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Fri Oct 4 09:52:00 2024
    Wait, so now we've gone from "Project 2025 wasn't written by Trump or Vance but has a lot of good stuff in it" to "it is fake and written to smear Trump"?

    I still stand by both of those statements. It had some good stuff in it, some bad stuff too, but it was only made to smear Trump, and the evidence is in the
    fact that it wasn't written by Trump nor Vance, and also in that one of the members of the organization that credits itself for writing it is donating millions of dollars to Kamala.

    The Heritage Foundation has stated that the individual in question had
    nothing to do with writing Project 2025.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Mike Powell on Fri Oct 4 11:58:20 2024
    I still stand by both of those statements. It had some good stuff in it, bad stuff too, but it was only made to smear Trump, and the evidence is the
    fact that it wasn't written by Trump nor Vance, and also in that one of members of the organization that credits itself for writing it is donati millions of dollars to Kamala.

    The Heritage Foundation has stated that the individual in question had nothing to do with writing Project 2025.

    I never heard of the Heritage Foundation until the Project 2025 nonsense. Are we supposed to believe that it's s legitimate foundation and that it makes sense for it to have millions to give to Kamala? My point is that they serve no other purpose other than their misinformation.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Mike Powell on Fri Oct 4 12:41:44 2024
    On 04 Oct 2024, Mike Powell said the following...

    It is difficult to keep up with whatever today's version of "the Truth" is.


    This is why we have fidonet

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Sat Oct 5 08:16:00 2024
    fact that it wasn't written by Trump nor Vance, and also in that one of
    members of the organization that credits itself for writing it is donat
    millions of dollars to Kamala.

    The Heritage Foundation has stated that the individual in question had nothing to do with writing Project 2025.

    I never heard of the Heritage Foundation until the Project 2025 nonsense. Are we supposed to believe that it's s legitimate foundation and that it makes sense for it to have millions to give to Kamala? My point is that they serve n
    other purpose other than their misinformation.

    The fondation didn't have money for Kamala. One of their members (possibly a founding one) did.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to IB JOE on Sat Oct 5 07:53:00 2024
    It is difficult to keep up with whatever today's version of "the Truth" is.

    This is why we have fidonet

    I would put fidonet above, but just barely, the sewer of misinformation
    known as "social media."


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Sat Oct 5 13:36:02 2024
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Mike Powell <=-

    I never heard of the Heritage Foundation until the Project 2025
    nonsense. Are we supposed to believe that it's s legitimate foundation
    and that it makes sense for it to have millions to give to Kamala? My point is that they serve no other purpose other than their
    misinformation.

    "Controlled opposition refers to a tactic where an individual, organization, or movement is covertly controlled or influenced by a third party, and their true purpose differs from their publicly stated goals. This strategy is used for mass deception, surveillance, and political/social manipulation."

    So the idea behind Project 2025 has been around for a long time.

    Is it any wonder why they don't teach this in schools anymore?


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Mike Powell on Sat Oct 5 12:12:10 2024
    I never heard of the Heritage Foundation until the Project 2025 nonsense we supposed to believe that it's s legitimate foundation and that it mak sense for it to have millions to give to Kamala? My point is that they s n
    other purpose other than their misinformation.

    The fondation didn't have money for Kamala. One of their members
    (possibly a founding one) did.

    That's ok, but notice the timing of the donation and the writing of Project 2025. They are happening at the same time. I read that they have an annual budget of $38 million dollars, so if electing Kamala was their ultimate goal, then they could do better than $7 million.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Sat Oct 5 12:19:58 2024
    I never heard of the Heritage Foundation until the Project 2025 nonsense. Are we supposed to believe that it's s legitimate foundatio and that it makes sense for it to have millions to give to Kamala? My point is that they serve no other purpose other than their misinformation.

    "Controlled opposition refers to a tactic where an individual, organization, or movement is covertly controlled or influenced by a
    third party, and their true purpose differs from their publicly stated goals. This strategy is used for mass deception, surveillance, and political/social manipulation."

    So the idea behind Project 2025 has been around for a long time.

    Misinformation might not have have been the original intention of the Heritage Foundation, but the Democrats/globalists have taken the opportunity to corrupt nearly every industry and every institution in existence, which may easily include the Heritage Foundation, which may or may not explain why one of their employees is spending $7 million from their $28 million dollar annual budget ton Harris' campaign.

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  • From Randall Schad@1:226/44 to Mike Powell on Sat Oct 5 17:22:06 2024
    On 05 Oct 2024, Mike Powell said the following...

    This is why we have fidonet

    I would put fidonet above, but just barely, the sewer of misinformation known as "social media."

    That's because you're here to set the bar high, Mike. :)

    RS

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Sun Oct 6 09:35:49 2024
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    So the idea behind Project 2025 has been around for a long time.

    Misinformation might not have have been the original intention of the Heritage Foundation,

    I haven't done any research on this yet, but I've heard that the Heritage Foundation is a relatively new organization. Sort of like that newly created "police organization" that promotes Kamala.

    In the case of the Heritage Foundation, it seems that it was created to be controlled opposition for the purpose of spreading misinformation.

    Elitists always like to use names that are the opposite of what they actually do.

    but the Democrats/globalists have taken the
    opportunity to corrupt nearly every industry and every institution in existence, which may easily include the Heritage Foundation,

    Which is certainly possible too. That's one of their long term plans: Take an organization that has already established trust and corrupt it.

    Doing a quick search for Heritage Foundation, it was established in 1973. That was after the big plan was put in place in the 1960's. So it could have been established for controlled opposition, or it could have been corrupted.

    But I'm also seeing many other "Heritage Foundations" out there too.

    Ahhh... confusion. Another tool of the Elitists.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Sun Oct 6 08:13:04 2024
    Doing a quick search for Heritage Foundation, it was established in
    1973. That was after the big plan was put in place in the 1960's. So
    it could have been established for controlled opposition, or it could
    have been corrupted.

    But I'm also seeing many other "Heritage Foundations" out there too.

    The media (and Democrats) always try to normalize idiotic things. They're goal here is to make sheeple think that The Heritage Foundation is relevant while none of us have ever heard of it.

    We've been talking about politics in this echo for decades already and we've never talked about The Hertiage Foundation before. Other newer topics include: climate change, AI, segregated communities, women and gulls, etc. They're catchy phrases that linger inside vacant minds. But for the people who have their own thoughts, the Heritage Foundation is as relative as the new Buffalo Bills drink at McDonalds.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Sun Oct 6 11:03:00 2024
    The fondation didn't have money for Kamala. One of their members (possibly a founding one) did.

    That's ok, but notice the timing of the donation and the writing of Project 2025. They are happening at the same time. I read that they have an annual budget of $38 million dollars, so if electing Kamala was their ultimate goal, then they could do better than $7 million.

    There again, that was from a member. To my knowledge, none of the
    foundation's $38 million went to her.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to RANDALL SCHAD on Sun Oct 6 10:12:00 2024
    This is why we have fidonet

    I would put fidonet above, but just barely, the sewer of misinformation known as "social media."

    That's because you're here to set the bar high, Mike. :)

    It might be time to send James Cameron back down in a submarine to raise the bar back up. I suspect it has slipped a lot since he last did so. :D


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Sun Oct 6 10:31:00 2024
    include the Heritage Foundation, which may or may not explain why one of their
    employees is spending $7 million from their $28 million dollar annual budget ton Harris' campaign.

    Unless you are implying that one of their trustees has their own $28
    million that they are donating $7 million out of, this statement is false.

    The person who made the donation is an individual. The foundation didn't
    make the donation.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Mike Powell on Sun Oct 6 13:44:58 2024
    That's ok, but notice the timing of the donation and the writing of Proj 2025. They are happening at the same time. I read that they have an annu budget of $38 million dollars, so if electing Kamala was their ultimate then they could do better than $7 million.

    There again, that was from a member. To my knowledge, none of the foundation's $38 million went to her.

    I assume a lot, but I assume that the member got their money from being one of those "hard-working Heritage Foundation workers" that we always hear about.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Mike Powell on Sun Oct 6 15:26:34 2024
    On 05 Oct 2024, Mike Powell said the following...

    This is why we have fidonet

    I would put fidonet above, but just barely, the sewer of misinformation known as "social media."


    You sound like Hillary Clinton.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Mon Oct 7 07:13:50 2024
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    The media (and Democrats) always try to normalize idiotic things.
    They're goal here is to make sheeple think that The Heritage Foundation
    is relevant while none of us have ever heard of it.

    They've conditioned the sheeple to defer to the "experts", then they manufacture "experts" that are, in effect, propaganda sources.

    We've been talking about politics in this echo for decades already and we've never talked about The Hertiage Foundation before.

    That's why things like "Project 2025" and such raise red flags when the Propaganda Mininstry uses them.

    I don't know if it's just me or not, but when the Propaganda Ministry trots out some "expert" group that I've never heard before, I discount everything they say. I'm sure that they'd use other groups that aren't so new, but those groups lost all credibility over the years.

    Other newer
    topics include: climate change, AI, segregated communities, women and gulls, etc. They're catchy phrases that linger inside vacant minds.

    You hit the nail on the head there.

    I've seen plenty of "interviews" with activists who are for INSERT_TOPIC_HERE but can't explain why they are for it and how it's good.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Mon Oct 7 07:55:54 2024
    We've been talking about politics in this echo for decades already an we've never talked about The Hertiage Foundation before.

    That's why things like "Project 2025" and such raise red flags when the Propaganda Mininstry uses them.

    I don't know if it's just me or not, but when the Propaganda Ministry trots out some "expert" group that I've never heard before, I discount everything they say. I'm sure that they'd use other groups that aren't
    so new, but those groups lost all credibility over the years.

    I'm like that too, but I'll go as far as to say that there's no such thing as an "expert" because that's not even a real title. "Groups" and "experts" are not parts of our political system. "The Heritage Foundation" and "Project 2025" are just more synthetic stimulants that cause an intended reaction in idiots.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Mon Oct 7 10:10:00 2024
    There again, that was from a member. To my knowledge, none of the foundation's $38 million went to her.

    I assume a lot, but I assume that the member got their money from being one of
    those "hard-working Heritage Foundation workers" that we always hear about.

    He is/was a long-time politician in Oklahoma. I suspect that is the more likely source of his millions.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to IB JOE on Mon Oct 7 10:11:00 2024
    This is why we have fidonet

    I would put fidonet above, but just barely, the sewer of misinformation known as "social media."

    You sound like Hillary Clinton.

    If HRC said anything about social media being a sewer of misinformation,
    that is one of the *very few* things her and I agree on.

    I have been watching a documentary on FX about how addicted kids are to
    social media. I don't have much hope for most of them.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Tue Oct 8 07:24:49 2024
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    I'm like that too, but I'll go as far as to say that there's no such
    thing as an "expert" because that's not even a real title. "Groups" and "experts" are not parts of our political system. "The Heritage
    Foundation" and "Project 2025" are just more synthetic stimulants that cause an intended reaction in idiots.

    The problem with experts is that too many of them talk outside of their field of knowledge and the Elitists try to elevate them.

    Noam Chomsky is a great example. He's a linguist. In his field, he's considered an expert (I don't know if he actually is, since I've never been interested in linguistics). But when he pontificates on things like Foreign Policy, the Elitists elevate him because he's an "expert" (just not in anything other than linguistics) and because he says what they want.

    Then the Elitists perverted the education process and allowed incompetent to get degrees and titles that used to be reserved for those who actually learned the subject. Just another example of how the Elitist wreck everything they touch.

    So we used to have experts, and we probably still do, but because of the Elitists and their Propaganda Ministry, we don't trust any of them anymore.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Tue Oct 8 06:17:40 2024
    thing as an "expert" because that's not even a real title. "Groups" a "experts" are not parts of our political system. "The Heritage Foundation" and "Project 2025" are just more synthetic stimulants tha cause an intended reaction in idiots.

    The problem with experts is that too many of them talk outside of their field of knowledge and the Elitists try to elevate them.

    Saying the right words seems very important to the elitists. They know that they are being observed, and saying the right words on camera probably gets them the recognition they need from higher-level elitists.

    Noam Chomsky is a great example. He's a linguist. In his field, he's considered an expert (I don't know if he actually is, since I've never been interested in linguistics). But when he pontificates on things
    like Foreign Policy, the Elitists elevate him because he's an "expert" (just not in anything other than linguistics) and because he says what they want.

    That reminds me of Yuval Noah Harari, the author and senior member of the WEF, who one day creepily appeared on the Stephen Colbert Show. Now he's an author, historian, philosopher, AI engineer, and WEF senior member. With titles like those, anything that spews from his mouth is enough to convince the ultra-ignorant.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Tue Oct 8 08:19:00 2024
    Saying the right words seems very important to the elitists. They know that they are being observed, and saying the right words on camera probably gets them the recognition they need from higher-level elitists.

    It is very important to MAGA Republicans, too. Say the wrong words and you
    are a RINO.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Mike Powell on Tue Oct 8 10:53:04 2024
    Saying the right words seems very important to the elitists. They know t they are being observed, and saying the right words on camera probably g them the recognition they need from higher-level elitists.

    It is very important to MAGA Republicans, too. Say the wrong words and you are a RINO.

    When I was at the Indiana, PA Trump rally, I was a front-row Joe, and we were all chatting about politics openly. I accidentally said "Obama wasn't even this bad."

    A lady said "What do you mean by that?"

    Oops! I had to quickly correct myself by saying "I mean, Obama wasn't openly trashing our country like Joe and Kamala are!"

    (Saved myself)

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  • From Randall Schad@1:226/44 to Ron L. on Tue Oct 8 14:37:32 2024
    On 08 Oct 2024, Ron L. said the following...

    The problem with experts is that too many of them talk outside of their field of knowledge and the Elitists try to elevate them.

    I keep seeing this "Elitists" word (capitalized). What's the definition of an Elitist? I can't get enough from context, and am left with some ambiguous form of ad hominem.

    Noam Chomsky is a great example. He's a linguist. In his field, he's considered an expert (I don't know if he actually is, since I've never been interested in linguistics). But when he pontificates on things
    like Foreign Policy, the Elitists elevate him because he's an "expert" (just not in anything other than linguistics) and because he says what they want.

    I would definitely consider Chomsky a leading expert in linguistics. (I am certainly not a formally edumacated linguist, but I do a lot of armchair study, and his work and theory are among the most prominent in the material I consume.)

    As for the remainder of his "contributions" to other fields (economics, politics, foreign policy, etc), I would argue that someone who has spent more than 50 years studying and writing (in the public eye, subject to peer review and criticism) on those topics as core components of his framework could easily be considered an expert.

    RS

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Wed Oct 9 07:31:38 2024
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Saying the right words seems very important to the elitists. They know that they are being observed, and saying the right words on camera probably gets them the recognition they need from higher-level
    elitists.

    Most of the Elitists' operatives were some sort of english major in college (hence why they can't get a good paying job anywhere else). So the Elitists put their operatives to good use by creating propaganda. The Elitists know that they must hide their agenda because they can never get elected running on it.

    That reminds me of Yuval Noah Harari, the author and senior member of
    the WEF, who one day creepily appeared on the Stephen Colbert Show. Now he's an author, historian, philosopher, AI engineer, and WEF senior member. With titles like those, anything that spews from his mouth is enough to convince the ultra-ignorant.

    Titles like that remind me of the saying "Jack of all trades. Master of none."

    So to me, he's an expert of nothing.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Randall Schad on Wed Oct 9 07:31:38 2024
    Randall Schad wrote to Dr. What <=-

    I keep seeing this "Elitists" word (capitalized). What's the definition
    of an Elitist? I can't get enough from context, and am left with some ambiguous form of ad hominem.

    That's because you are one of them. And people like you have no self-awareness.

    As for the remainder of his "contributions" to other fields (economics, politics, foreign policy, etc),

    He's constributed nothing because he knows nothing in those other fields.

    I would argue that someone who has
    spent more than 50 years studying and writing (in the public eye,
    subject to peer review and criticism) on those topics as core
    components of his framework could easily be considered an expert.

    And more proof of your Ignorant Elitist status.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Wed Oct 9 08:15:00 2024
    It is very important to MAGA Republicans, too. Say the wrong words and you are a RINO.

    When I was at the Indiana, PA Trump rally, I was a front-row Joe, and we were all chatting about politics openly. I accidentally said "Obama wasn't even thi
    bad."

    A lady said "What do you mean by that?"

    Oops! I had to quickly correct myself by saying "I mean, Obama wasn't openly trashing our country like Joe and Kamala are!"

    (Saved myself)

    Yep, you set off her RINO radar big time! Quick thinking is probably what saved you head from being stuffed and mounted over her fireplace. :O :D


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Mike Powell on Wed Oct 9 12:01:56 2024
    Oops! I had to quickly correct myself by saying "I mean, Obama wasn't op trashing our country like Joe and Kamala are!"

    (Saved myself)

    Yep, you set off her RINO radar big time! Quick thinking is probably
    what saved you head from being stuffed and mounted over her fireplace.

    She was a nice lady from upstate NY. She bought my wife a water without even asking first, and they are expensive there. MAGA is my cult. She's right in knowing that all Democrats are bad. She sat next to us in the 10th row. I think I embarassed her when I gave Lee Zeldin thumbs down.

    And I'm being serious, Lee Zeldin did a double-take while I thumbs-downed him. He was pissed. Nobody else at the event had a problem with him except me but
    nobody hassled me about heckling him either.

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  • From Randall Schad@1:226/44 to Ron L. on Wed Oct 9 15:50:28 2024
    On 09 Oct 2024, Ron L. said the following...

    Randall Schad wrote to Dr. What <=-

    I keep seeing this "Elitists" word (capitalized). What's the definiti of an Elitist? I can't get enough from context, and am left with some ambiguous form of ad hominem.

    That's because you are one of them. And people like you have no self-awareness.

    At the risk of welcoming further insults...

    What would the opposite of an Elitist be, then?

    As for the remainder of his "contributions" to other fields (economic politics, foreign policy, etc),

    He's constributed nothing because he knows nothing in those other fields.

    If he's someone who knows nothing, then who does fill the role?

    I would argue that someone who has
    spent more than 50 years studying and writing (in the public eye, subject to peer review and criticism) on those topics as core components of his framework could easily be considered an expert.

    And more proof of your Ignorant Elitist status.

    I'm getting serious J.R. Bob Dobbs vibes here.

    Who are the people that you consider experts, or who at least know enough about something to have their opinions considered worth consideration?

    RS

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to RANDALL SCHAD on Thu Oct 10 08:43:00 2024
    Who are the people that you consider experts, or who at least know enough about
    something to have their opinions considered worth consideration?

    In this echo, best as I can tell...

    Expert = someone "qualified" who agrees with you and validates your
    opinions.

    Not an Expert = someone, who might or might not be "qualified," who does
    not agree with your point of view.

    Hope that helps.


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  • From Randall Schad@1:226/44 to Mike Powell on Thu Oct 10 11:02:54 2024
    On 10 Oct 2024, Mike Powell said the following...

    Who are the people that you consider experts, or who at least know enough >about something to have their opinions considered worth consideration?

    In this echo, best as I can tell...

    Oh, I don't think it's limited to just this echo. I hear pretty much "more of the same" from my own friends in our group text.

    Expert = someone "qualified" who agrees with you and validates your opinions.

    Not an Expert = someone, who might or might not be "qualified," who does not agree with your point of view.

    Yep, that tracks. I was hoping he would have named specifics, though. Maybe a little compare and contrast on selection criteria and methodology.

    Or... maybe I just get into a name-calling contest. Because I'm pretty good at that, too.

    RS

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