Well I got Winpoint running at least, but I installed it on my 32bit emulator, checked for 64 bit and it works but to no avail of traffic.

I guess I will have to wait for traffic.

Very fast setup and tons of German, since I am a huge VW fan I guess I can live
with some German for now.

I like how huge everything is The text is awful small though.

will look into it cheers.

Alan

--- WinPoint Beta 5 (359.1)
* Origin: WinPoint (1:229/426.36)

Hello Alan!

** 20.04.20 - 20:08, Alan Beck wrote to all:

Well I got Winpoint running at least, but I installed it on my 32bit
emulator, checked for 64 bit and it works but to no avail of traffic.

When I discovered WinPoint, I was almost convinced that I would stick with it. <g>

Very fast setup and tons of German, since I am a huge VW fan I guess I can
live with some German for now.

WinPoint is an odd mix of English/German for sure. I received a tonne of help with it in the last year or so. Maybe try to get a rescan of the
POINTS echo and look for the WinPoint threads. You can also dig up old threads at the echomail archive here:

https://www.ipingthereforeiam.com/bbs/msgs/

iptia is a great resource because you can actually S)earch for messages
and follow a thread.

I like how huge everything is The text is awful small though.

The icon toolbar design is very good and quite modern. But you can adjust some font characteristics from Extras/Options/Display.



../|ug

--- OpenXP 5.0.43
* Origin: ----------Do Not Fold, Spindle or Mutilate.---------- (2:221/1.58)

Hello Alan!

*** Monday 20.04.20 at 20:08, Alan Beck wrote to all:

Well I got Winpoint running at least, but I installed it on my 32bit emulator, checked for 64 bit and it works but to no avail of traffic.

I guess I will have to wait for traffic.

Very fast setup and tons of German, since I am a huge VW fan I guess I
can live with some German for now.

If you haven't already got a copy, you may find this useful .....

https://stargate.org.uk/winpoint/winpoint_guide.pdf

Regards,
Martin

--- OpenXP 5.0.43
* Origin: Bitz-Box - Bradford - UK (2:310/31.3)

Thanks

https://stargate.org.uk/winpoint/winpoint_guide.pdf

--- WinPoint Beta 5 (359.1)
* Origin: WinPoint (1:229/426.36)

Hi Alan!

20 Apr 20 20:08, you wrote to all:

Well I got Winpoint running..

[snip]

Very fast setup and tons of German, since I am a huge VW fan I guess I
can live with some German for now.

If you have knowledge of the German language then the more sophisticated areas of the program should be easy to work with. Power to you.

It got confusing in the file requests and message templates sections.



--- GoldED+/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: ----> Point Of VeleNo BBs (http://www.velenobbs.net) (2:333/808.7)

What's wrong with Google translate?

Terry

On Apr 26, 2020 07:10am, August Abolins wrote to Alan Beck:

Hi Alan!

20 Apr 20 20:08, you wrote to all:

Well I got Winpoint running..

[snip]

Very fast setup and tons of German, since I am a huge VW fan I guess I
can live with some German for now.

If you have knowledge of the German language then the more
sophisticated areas of the program should be easy to work with. Power
to you.

It got confusing in the file requests and message templates sections.

--- GoldED+/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: ----> Point Of VeleNo BBs (http://www.velenobbs.net)
(2:333/808.7)

... Platinum Xpress & Wildcat!..... Nice!!!!
--- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v7.0
* Origin: The File Bank BBS! (3:640/1321)

Google helps

adb

Hi Alan!

20 Apr 20 20:08, you wrote to all:

Well I got Winpoint running..

[snip]

Very fast setup and tons of German, since I am a huge VW fan I guess I
can live with some German for now.

If you have knowledge of the German language then the more sophisticated areas of the program should be easy to work with. Power to you.

It got confusing in the file requests and message templates sections.

-+- GoldED+/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-b20180707
@ ORIGINAL: ----> Point Of VeleNo BBs (http://www.velenobbs.net)
@ ORIGINAL: (2:333/808.7)

--- WinPoint Beta 5 (359.1)
* Origin: WinPoint (1:229/426.36)

Hello Terry!

Winpoint is a windows-gui program. It is not possible to copy-paste into goggle translate. The "words" are part of the button/graphic.

Eg:

[1] http://pics.rsh.ru/img/wp-1_8tf5jx5h.jpg
[2] http://pics.rsh.ru/img/wp-2_qkqa7x44.jpg
[3] http://pics.rsh.ru/img/wp-3_0jm9slva.jpg

And.. by the time I commit some of the words to memory and reach
translate, I forget the proper spelling.

Only a few places in Windows have icons with the words, so the function is easier to figure out. Eg [1] above.

But somethig like [2] and [3] is harder to work with.

If I were to use Winpoint more often, something like Abschicken is funny enough and easy enough to remember, so.. it wouldn't be that bad afterall.


../|ug



** On 26.04.20 - 17:28, Terry Roati wrote to August Abolins:

What's wrong with Google translate?

On Apr 26, 2020 07:10am, August Abolins wrote to Alan Beck:

If you have knowledge of the German language then the more
sophisticated areas of the program should be easy to work with. Power
to you.

It got confusing in the file requests and message templates sections.

--- OpenXP 5.0.43
* Origin: ----------Do Not Fold, Spindle or Mutilate.---------- (2:221/1.58)

Hello Alan!

Not if I can't copy-paste it into google translate. ;)

BTW.. Top-posting is not working for me very well. Most of my replies
will be the conventional bottom method.

..A


** On 26.04.20 - 07:22, Alan Beck wrote to August Abolins:

Google helps

adb

Hi Alan!

20 Apr 20 20:08, you wrote to all:

Well I got Winpoint running..

[snip]

Very fast setup and tons of German, since I am a huge VW fan I guess I
can live with some German for now.

If you have knowledge of the German language then the more sophisticated
areas of the program should be easy to work with. Power to you.

It got confusing in the file requests and message templates sections.

-+- GoldED+/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-b20180707
@ ORIGINAL: ----> Point Of VeleNo BBs (http://www.velenobbs.net)
@ ORIGINAL: (2:333/808.7)

-+- WinPoint Beta 5 (359.1)
+ Origin: WinPoint (1:229/426.36)

--- OpenXP 5.0.43
* Origin: ----------Do Not Fold, Spindle or Mutilate.---------- (2:221/1.58)

Hello mark!

** On 26.04.20 - 11:07, mark lewis wrote to August Abolins:

frankly, top posting stinks worse than dead rotten skunk carcasses...

I concur. I find that most top posters include the whole original post
and don't bother to remove the irrelevant (stinky) parts. But then I
guess each person has their own sense of smell. :(

bottom posting is ok but in-line is much preferred since it is a more
conversational presentation and allows the reader to understand the flow
of the conversation much much better...

By bottom-posting I meant/include in-line, that is writing *after* the relevant text.

In-line is a fine fidonet original style.

Have you ever tried to modify internet email messages to in-line? I would use a combination of indent, bullets, italic, bold. It freaks out some people that you reply to! :)

Some "devices" would be inconsistent on how they handle bullets, then it
is hard to understand who wrote what.


../|ug

--- OpenXP 5.0.43
* Origin: ----------Do Not Fold, Spindle or Mutilate.---------- (2:221/1.58)

Re: winpoint
By: August Abolins to Alan Beck on Sun Apr 26 2020 10:20:00

BTW.. Top-posting is not working for me very well. Most of my replies will be the conventional bottom method.

frankly, top posting stinks worse than dead rotten skunk carcasses... bottom posting is ok but in-line is much preferred since it is a more conversational presentation and allows the reader to understand the flow of the conversation much much better...


)\/(ark
--- SBBSecho 3.10-Linux
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Hello August!

*** Sunday 26.04.20 at 11:52, August Abolins wrote to mark lewis:

frankly, top posting stinks worse than dead rotten skunk carcasses...

I concur.

I also concur.

Regards,
Martin

--- OpenXP 5.0.43
* Origin: Bitz-Box - Bradford - UK (2:310/31.3)

So, I have been trying to get WinPoint working on my 64 bit windows, to no avail.

Now I am running it on my 32 bit machine via LM Manager, a tcp KVM. That works OK.

Guess I will use this one for my point work.

I want more NETS, such as SCINET and others.

Can Winpoint be used to be a point off of other Nets?

Cheers,

Alan


--- WinPoint Beta 5 (359.1)
* Origin: (1:229/426.36)

Hello Alan,

On Tuesday 29.03.22, you wrote to all:

So, I have been trying to get WinPoint working on my 64 bit windows, to
no avail.

Win or Linux?

I want more NETS, such as SCINET and others.
Can Winpoint be used to be a point off of other Nets?

Absolutely! That's what it's designed for.

--- WinPoint Beta 5 (359.1)

^^^^^^^^^^^^^

And.. you should seriously consider getting a much later version. You will be glad you did! ;)

../|ug
--- WinPoint 398.2
* Origin: Please write your complaint in this box [ ] - Legibly (2:221/1.59)

So, I have been trying to get WinPoint working on my 64 bit
windows, to no avail.

What did it happen? Works perfect for me, win10 home 64 bits.

I want more NETS, such as SCINET and others. Can Winpoint be used
to be a point off of other Nets?

Indeed. Not sure about the old version, but with the recent releases you can.

I suggest you get connected to the WINPOINT echo.


--
Carlos
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Hello Alan!

*** Tuesday 29.03.22 at 12:43:21, Alan Beck wrote to all:

So, I have been trying to get WinPoint working on my 64 bit windows, to
no avail.

There shouldn't be any problems running it on 64-Bit Windows. If you could tell us what the problems are, perhaps we could help?

Regards,
Martin

--- WinPoint 407.0
* Origin: WinPoint Test Rig - UK - (2:280/464.27)

Hello August!

*** Tuesday 29.03.22 at 22:31:41, August Abolins wrote to Alan Beck:

[snip]

--- WinPoint Beta 5 (359.1)

^^^^^^^^^^^^^

And.. you should seriously consider getting a much later version. You
will be glad you did! ;)

Yes, he should and yes, he will :-)

Regards,
Martin

--- WinPoint 407.0
* Origin: WinPoint Test Rig - UK - (2:280/464.27)

Hello Carlos!

*** Wednesday 30.03.22 at 15:22:23, Carlos Navarro wrote to Alan Beck:

So, I have been trying to get WinPoint working on my 64 bit windows, to
no avail.

What did it happen? Works perfect for me, win10 home 64 bits.

Works perfect for me also, on Win10 64-Bit Home Edition.

I want more NETS, such as SCINET and others. Can Winpoint be used to be
a point off of other Nets?

Indeed. Not sure about the old version, but with the recent releases you can.

The old version supports "othernets".

I suggest you get connected to the WINPOINT echo.

Yep, the developer is active in there :)

Regards,
Martin

--- WinPoint 407.0
* Origin: WinPoint Test Rig - UK - (2:280/464.27)

Hello Alan!

*** Tuesday 29.03.22 at 12:43:21, Alan Beck wrote to all:

So, I have been trying to get WinPoint working on my 64 bit windows, to
no avail.

There shouldn't be any problems running it on 64-Bit Windows. If you
could tell us what the problems are, perhaps we could help?

it crashes on startup due to likely multiple installation attempts. MSG button is greyed out. Attempt to poll does not work.

I am using winpoint on my 32 bit machine and it works, just means I have to use my TCP/IP KVM to use it.

The problem is that I have the underling impulse to want to fix it and make it do what I want.

Man this gets hard on the head after a while.

Alan

Regards, Martin

-+- WinPoint 407.0
@ ORIGINAL: WinPoint Test Rig - UK - (2:280/464.27)

--- WinPoint Beta 5 (359.1)
* Origin: WinPoint (1:229/426.36)

Hello Alan!

*** Monday 04.04.22 at 13:28:13, Alan Beck wrote to Martin Foster:

So, I have been trying to get WinPoint working on my 64 bit windows, to
no avail.

There shouldn't be any problems running it on 64-Bit Windows. If you
could tell us what the problems are, perhaps we could help?

it crashes on startup due to likely multiple installation attempts. MSG button is greyed out. Attempt to poll does not work.

I am using winpoint on my 32 bit machine and it works, just means I have to use my TCP/IP KVM to use it.

The problem is that I have the underling impulse to want to fix it and make it do what I want.

Man this gets hard on the head after a while.

Sorry but I have no idea what the problem could be, so I've forwarded your message into the WINPOINT echo in the hope that somebody can help. If you're not linked into the WINPOINT echo, may I suggest that you link in right away.

Regards,
Martin

--- WinPoint 407.0
* Origin: WinPoint Test Rig - UK - (2:280/464.27)

Hello Alan!

*** Monday 04.04.22 at 13:28:13, Alan Beck wrote to Martin Foster:

So, I have been trying to get WinPoint working on my 64 bit windows,
to no avail.

There shouldn't be any problems running it on 64-Bit Windows. If you
could tell us what the problems are, perhaps we could help?

it crashes on startup due to likely multiple installation attempts. MSG
button is greyed out. Attempt to poll does not work.

I am using winpoint on my 32 bit machine and it works, just means I have
to use my TCP/IP KVM to use it.

The problem is that I have the underling impulse to want to fix it and
make it do what I want.

Man this gets hard on the head after a while.

Sorry but I have no idea what the problem could be, so I've forwarded
your message into the WINPOINT echo in the hope that somebody can help.
If you're not linked into the WINPOINT echo, may I suggest that you link in right away.

I tried to link in but nothing happened.

I will have to do a list to see if it is there.

Alan

Regards, Martin

-+- WinPoint 407.0
@ ORIGINAL: WinPoint Test Rig - UK - (2:280/464.27)

--- WinPoint Beta 5 (359.1)
* Origin: WinPoint (1:229/426.36)

Hello, Alan Beck.
On 05.04.22 10:33 you wrote:

Hello Alan! *** Monday 04.04.22 at 13:28:13, Alan Beck wrote to
Martin Foster:

it crashes on startup due to likely multiple installation
attempts. MSG button is greyed out. Attempt to poll does not
work. I am using winpoint on my 32 bit machine and it works,
just means I have to use my TCP/IP KVM to use it. The problem is
that I have the underling impulse to want to fix it and make it
do what I want. Man this gets hard on the head after a while.

Sorry but I have no idea what the problem could be, so I've
forwarded your message into the WINPOINT echo in the hope that
somebody can help. If you're not linked into the WINPOINT echo,
may I suggest that you link in right away.

I tried to link in but nothing happened. I will have to do a list
to see if it is there. Alan

Regards, Martin -+- WinPoint 407.0 @ ORIGINAL: WinPoint Test Rig
- UK - (2:280/464.27)

--- WinPoint Beta 5 (359.1) * Origin: WinPoint (1:229/426.36)

First I'll propose you update your installation to winpoint Version 407
plz Download newest Version from winpoint.org

--
Regards, Uli ;-)

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Hello, Alan Beck. On 05.04.22 10:33 you wrote:

Hello Alan! *** Monday 04.04.22 at 13:28:13, Alan Beck wrote to Martin
Foster:

it crashes on startup due to likely multiple installation attempts.
MSG button is greyed out. Attempt to poll does not work. I am using
winpoint on my 32 bit machine and it works, just means I have to use
my TCP/IP KVM to use it. The problem is that I have the underling
impulse to want to fix it and make it do what I want. Man this gets
hard on the head after a while.

Sorry but I have no idea what the problem could be, so I've forwarded
your message into the WINPOINT echo in the hope that somebody can
help. If you're not linked into the WINPOINT echo, may I suggest that
you link in right away.

I tried to link in but nothing happened. I will have to do a list to
see if it is there. Alan

Regards, Martin -+- WinPoint 407.0 @ ORIGINAL: WinPoint Test Rig - UK
- (2:280/464.27)

-+- WinPoint Beta 5 (359.1) * Origin: WinPoint (1:229/426.36)

First I'll propose you update your installation to winpoint Version 407 plz Download newest Version from winpoint.org

Please explain how I exactly upgrade it.

I need to know how to completly remove it from other Windows 10 machine I use.

Alan

-- Regards, Uli ;-)

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--- WinPoint Beta 5 (359.1)
* Origin: WinPoint (1:229/426.36)

Hi Alan,

10 Apr 22 09:31, from Alan Beck -> Ulrich Schroeter, in URL area://POINTS?msgid=1:229/426.36+5b3a2881:

Hello, Alan Beck. On 05.04.22 10:33 you wrote:

...

I tried to link in but nothing happened. I will have to do a
list to see if it is there. Alan

Regards, Martin -+- WinPoint 407.0 @ ORIGINAL: WinPoint Test
Rig - UK - (2:280/464.27)

-+- WinPoint Beta 5 (359.1) * Origin: WinPoint (1:229/426.36)

First I'll propose you update your installation to winpoint
Version 407 plz Download newest Version from winpoint.org

Please explain how I exactly upgrade it.
I need to know how to completly remove it from other Windows 10
machine I use.

there are two options .. both are selected within the setup ...

so download the new package
http://winpoint.org/WP_407.zip
and extract the zip package into a temp directory
from there start winpoint setup.exe
run the setup.exe with administrative privileges
select the language (eg English)
Next - Next - Accept the License Agreement - next
select the installation directory ...
if you've installed a previous release, you'll probably get
the installation path presented in the destination field
Next

the next window is essential:
[ ] Overwrite existing configuration

Option 1:
set the checkbox starts a fresh clean install and overwrites
the previous installation.

Option 2:
let the checkbox unchecked installs the new executable and
merges the "old" installation parameters with addtl. new parameters to an updated
installation. So if you still have echo folders configured, the old echo folders
keeps intact; your point configuration keeps intact (sysop name, bossnode info)


continue with the setup option 1 or option 2

Alan

-- Regards, Uli ;-)
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@ ORIGINAL: (2:240/1120.2)

--- WinPoint Beta 5 (359.1)
* Origin: WinPoint (1:229/426.36)

regards, uli ;-)
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* Originally in POINTS
* Crossposted in WINPOINT

Hello Alan!

*** Sunday 10.04.22 at 6:31:36, Alan Beck wrote to Ulrich Schroeter:

[snip]

I need to know how to completly remove it from other Windows 10 machine I use.

To completely remove WinPoint, do the following(AT YOUR OWN RISK) .....

[1] Delete the following registry key: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\New.Vision.Software\Winpoint

[2] Delete "C:\Users\<your username>\AppData\Roaming\WinPoint"

[3] Delete "C:\Program Files (x86)\WinPoint"

[4] Delete any/all WinPoint shortcuts you may have

[5] If there's any WinPoint stuff on your Windows Start Menu, delete it all

Regards,
Martin

--- WinPoint 407.0
* Origin: WinPoint Test Rig - UK - (2:280/464.27)

Sorry I could not find WinPoint on the BBS.

My problem after installing 4.07 on my fresh Windows 10 64 bit machine
is that it keeps wanting 2: for the first addressing while writing a
letter and it does not go out.

NOW it comes up with "List Index out of bounds:
Language is German.

Could someone punt this one to WinPoint for me.

I am in a BBS editor (Doc's Place). Will ask him for Winpoint.

Alan
--- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.0pr5
* Origin: Fidonet Since 1991 www.doccyber.org bbs.docsplace.org (1:135/392)

Hello Alan!

*** Monday 16.05.22 at 13:36, Alan wrote to ALL:

Sorry I could not find WinPoint on the BBS.

My problem after installing 4.07 on my fresh Windows 10 64 bit machine
is that it keeps wanting 2: for the first addressing while writing a
letter and it does not go out.

NOW it comes up with "List Index out of bounds:
Language is German.

Could someone punt this one to WinPoint for me.

I am in a BBS editor (Doc's Place). Will ask him for Winpoint.

Alan
-+- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.0pr5
+ Origin: Fidonet Since 1991 www.doccyber.org bbs.docsplace.org (1:135/392)

As requested, I've forwarded your message into WINPOINT.

Regards,
Martin

--- OpenXP 5.0.56
* Origin: Bitz-Box - Bradford - UK (2:310/31.3)

Hah!

Hi Martin

Hello Alan!

*** Monday 16.05.22 at 13:36, Alan wrote to ALL:

Sorry I could not find WinPoint on the BBS.

My problem after installing 4.07 on my fresh Windows 10 64 bit machine is
that it keeps wanting 2: for the first addressing while writing a letter
and it does not go out.

NOW it comes up with "List Index out of bounds: Language is German.

Could someone punt this one to WinPoint for me.

I am in a BBS editor (Doc's Place). Will ask him for Winpoint.

Alan
-+- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.0pr5
+ Origin: Fidonet Since 1991 www.doccyber.org bbs.docsplace.org
(1:135/392)

As requested, I've forwarded your message into WINPOINT.

Regards, Martin

-+- OpenXP 5.0.56
@ ORIGINAL: Bitz-Box - Bradford - UK (2:310/31.3)

--- WinPoint Beta 5 (359.1)
* Origin: WinPoint (1:229/426.36)