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    From Fernando Toledo@4:902/26 to Fidonet.POINTS on Thu Jan 20 12:29:06 2022
    I have mixed format on listing messages at date column, it very weird
    and get confused for me

    DD.MM (day and month) and MM/YY (month and year)

    360 07.02 Flavio Bessa Fernando Toledo -Listado de BBS Latinos
    372 13.02 Rodrigo Pelaez Fernando Toledo Re: Listado de BBS Lat!
    385 01/21 Flavio Bessa Fernando Toledo Daily Nodelist proceus
    532 04.02 Flavio Bessa Fernando Toledo Binkd para DOS
    585 04.02 Fernando Toledo Fernando Toledo Re: Binkd para DOS
    282 04.02 Fernando Toledo Flavio Bessa Re: Binkd para DOS
    228 04.02 Flavio Bessa THIERRY OLMEDO Binkd para DOS
    1243 01/21 Fernando Toledo Flavio Bessa Re: Husky
    1133 01/21 Angel Ripoll Fernando Toledo -file echos
    1221 01/21 Angel Ripoll Fernando Toledo -Husky
    883 01/21 Flavio Bessa Fernando Toledo -Husky
    1594 01/21 Fernando Toledo Angel Ripoll Re: Husky
    3188 01/21 Fernando Toledo Angel Ripoll Re: file echos
    1657 01/21 Fernando Toledo Angel Ripoll Re: Husky
    760 01/21 Angel Ripoll Fernando Toledo -Husky

    Please!!! can you add support for day, month and year??? (I dont care if
    will yyyymmdd or ddmmyyyy but almost complete date and optional time
    will be useful)

    I using openxp 5.0.51 on linux

    Thanks!!!!

    Abrazo!
    --- SBBSecho 3.14-Linux
    * Origin: Dock Sud BBS - http://bbs.docksud.com.ar (4:902/26)
  • From Martin Foster@2:310/31.3 to Fernando Toledo on Fri Jan 21 10:21:00 2022
    Hello Fernando!

    *** Thursday 20.01.22 at 12:29, Fernando Toledo wrote to Fidonet.POINTS:

    I have mixed format on listing messages at date column,

    Yeah, so have I.

    it very weird and get confused for me

    Considering how long I've been using OpenXP and its predecessor, even I
    tend to get confused occasionally. It's something I've learnt to live with over the years but never done anything about it. For now, let's say it's
    just a quirk.

    DD.MM (day and month) and MM/YY (month and year)

    360 07.02 Flavio Bessa Fernando Toledo -Listado de BBS Latinos
    372 13.02 Rodrigo Pelaez Fernando Toledo Re: Listado de BBS Lat!
    385 01/21 Flavio Bessa Fernando Toledo Daily Nodelist proceus
    532 04.02 Flavio Bessa Fernando Toledo Binkd para DOS
    585 04.02 Fernando Toledo Fernando Toledo Re: Binkd para DOS
    282 04.02 Fernando Toledo Flavio Bessa Re: Binkd para DOS
    228 04.02 Flavio Bessa THIERRY OLMEDO Binkd para DOS
    1243 01/21 Fernando Toledo Flavio Bessa Re: Husky
    1133 01/21 Angel Ripoll Fernando Toledo -file echos
    1221 01/21 Angel Ripoll Fernando Toledo -Husky
    883 01/21 Flavio Bessa Fernando Toledo -Husky
    1594 01/21 Fernando Toledo Angel Ripoll Re: Husky
    3188 01/21 Fernando Toledo Angel Ripoll Re: file echos
    1657 01/21 Fernando Toledo Angel Ripoll Re: Husky
    760 01/21 Angel Ripoll Fernando Toledo -Husky

    Please!!! can you add support for day, month and year??? (I dont care if will yyyymmdd or ddmmyyyy but almost complete date and optional time
    will be useful)

    *I* can't do anything about it, so I've passed your message on to the developer. As soon as he replies back, I'll let you know what he has to
    say.

    I using openxp 5.0.51 on linux

    Same problem with the Windows version.

    Regards,
    Martin

    --- OpenXP 5.0.51
    * Origin: OpenXP-Team (2:310/31.3)
  • From Martin Foster@2:310/31.3 to Fernando Toledo on Fri Jan 21 13:17:00 2022
    Hello Fernando!

    *** Friday 21.01.22 at 10:21, Martin Foster wrote to Fernando Toledo:

    I have mixed format on listing messages at date column,

    Yeah, so have I.

    it very weird and get confused for me

    Considering how long I've been using OpenXP and its predecessor, even I tend to get confused occasionally. It's something I've learnt to live
    with over the years but never done anything about it. For now, let's say it's just a quirk.

    DD.MM (day and month) and MM/YY (month and year)

    360 07.02 Flavio Bessa Fernando Toledo -Listado de BBS Latinos
    372 13.02 Rodrigo Pelaez Fernando Toledo Re: Listado de BBS Lat!
    385 01/21 Flavio Bessa Fernando Toledo Daily Nodelist proceus
    532 04.02 Flavio Bessa Fernando Toledo Binkd para DOS
    585 04.02 Fernando Toledo Fernando Toledo Re: Binkd para DOS
    282 04.02 Fernando Toledo Flavio Bessa Re: Binkd para DOS
    228 04.02 Flavio Bessa THIERRY OLMEDO Binkd para DOS
    1243 01/21 Fernando Toledo Flavio Bessa Re: Husky
    1133 01/21 Angel Ripoll Fernando Toledo -file echos
    1221 01/21 Angel Ripoll Fernando Toledo -Husky
    883 01/21 Flavio Bessa Fernando Toledo -Husky
    1594 01/21 Fernando Toledo Angel Ripoll Re: Husky
    3188 01/21 Fernando Toledo Angel Ripoll Re: file echos
    1657 01/21 Fernando Toledo Angel Ripoll Re: Husky
    760 01/21 Angel Ripoll Fernando Toledo -Husky

    Please!!! can you add support for day, month and year??? (I dont care if
    will yyyymmdd or ddmmyyyy but almost complete date and optional time
    will be useful)

    *I* can't do anything about it, so I've passed your message on to the developer. As soon as he replies back, I'll let you know what he has to say.

    Here's his reply .....

    ---------- 8< ----------
    The format DD.MM is used if the message was creatd in the last 12 months. Otherwise the format MM/YY is used.

    The weird sorting in the list results of the fact that messages
    aren't sorted by creation date, but by receive date.

    So the message created on 2021-02-13 "Rodrigo Pelaez Fernando Toledo Re: Listado de BBS Lat!" was received before the message created in Jan.2021 "Flavio Bessa Fernando Toledo Daily Nodelist proceusú".

    But anyway, i'll have a look at it to see what could be done.
    ---------- 8< ----------

    Regards,
    Martin

    --- OpenXP 5.0.51
    * Origin: OpenXP-Team (2:310/31.3)
  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Martin Foster on Fri Jan 21 09:25:00 2022
    Hello Martin Foster!

    ** On Friday 21.01.22 - 13:17, Martin Foster wrote to Fernando Toledo:

    Here's his reply .....

    ---------- 8< ----------
    The format DD.MM is used if the message was creatd in the last 12 months. Otherwise the format MM/YY is used.

    The weird sorting in the list results of the fact that messages
    aren't sorted by creation date, but by receive date.

    So the message created on 2021-02-13 "Rodrigo Pelaez Fernando Toledo Re: Listado de BBS Lat!" was received before the message created in Jan.2021 "Flavio Bessa Fernando Toledo Daily Nodelist proceusú".

    But anyway, i'll have a look at it to see what could be done.
    ---------- 8< ----------


    I suspected that's what was happening all along. Personally, I
    like the mixed use of DD.MM and MM/YY It clearly helps to
    eyeball the messages that are clearly older than 12 months.

    --
    ../|ug

    --- OpenXP 5.0.51
    * Origin: The ONLY point that matters! --> . <-- (2:221/1.58)
  • From Martin Foster@2:280/464.27 to August Abolins on Fri Jan 21 14:36:00 2022
    Hello August!

    *** Friday 21.01.22 at 14:25:00, August Abolins wrote to Martin Foster:

    Here's his reply .....

    ---------- 8< ----------
    The format DD.MM is used if the message was creatd in the last 12
    months. Otherwise the format MM/YY is used.

    The weird sorting in the list results of the fact that messages aren't
    sorted by creation date, but by receive date.

    So the message created on 2021-02-13 "Rodrigo Pelaez Fernando Toledo Re:
    Listado de BBS Lat!" was received before the message created in Jan.2021
    "Flavio Bessa Fernando Toledo Daily Nodelist proceusú".

    But anyway, i'll have a look at it to see what could be done.
    ---------- 8< ----------


    I suspected that's what was happening all along. Personally, I
    like the mixed use of DD.MM and MM/YY It clearly helps to
    eyeball the messages that are clearly older than 12 months.

    Well yes, there is that about it but it still tends to confuse me occasionally, must be my age 8-/

    Regards,
    Martin

    --- WinPoint 394.0
    * Origin: WinPoint Test Rig - UK - (2:280/464.27)
  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Martin Foster on Sat Jan 22 08:30:00 2022
    Hello Martin!

    ** On Friday 21.01.22 - 14:36, your wrote to me:

    ..Personally, I like the mixed use of DD.MM and MM/YY
    It clearly helps to eyeball the messages that are clearly
    older than 12 months.

    Well yes, there is that about it but it still tends to confuse me occasionally, must be my age 8-/

    In retrospect, I thought that the use of DD.MM and MM/YY (for
    older than 12 months) was very clever. It's really not unlike
    what I see what some email programs try to do to help sort
    messages in a larger visual way. Besides, we (OXP users) also
    have the option to use the wonderful S)earch features to
    identify messages within a date range.

    If there were a change in the DD.MM vs MM/YY, I would rather
    have the option to retain that presentation as a config setting
    instead of replacing it with something to "fix" it.

    --
    ../|ug

    --- OpenXP 5.0.51
    * Origin: The ONLY point that matters! --> . <-- (2:221/1.58)
  • From Martin Foster@2:280/464.27 to August Abolins on Sun Jan 23 08:23:06 2022
    Hello August!

    *** Saturday 22.01.22 at 13:30:00, August Abolins wrote to Martin Foster:

    ..Personally, I like the mixed use of DD.MM and MM/YY It clearly helps
    to eyeball the messages that are clearly older than 12 months.

    Well yes, there is that about it but it still tends to confuse me
    occasionally, must be my age 8-/

    [snip]
    If there were a change in the DD.MM vs MM/YY, I would rather have the option to retain that presentation as a config setting instead of replacing it with something to "fix" it.

    Yes, I tend to agree.

    Regards,
    Martin

    --- WinPoint 394.0
    * Origin: WinPoint Test Rig - UK - (2:280/464.27)
  • From Fernando Toledo@4:902/26 to Martin Foster on Mon Jan 24 13:33:17 2022
    El 21/1/22 a las 07:21, Martin Foster escribió:
    Hello Fernando!

    *** Thursday 20.01.22 at 12:29, Fernando Toledo wrote to Fidonet.POINTS:

    FT> I have mixed format on listing messages at date column,

    Yeah, so have I.

    FT> it very weird and get confused for me

    Considering how long I've been using OpenXP and its predecessor, even I
    tend to get confused occasionally. It's something I've learnt to live with over the years but never done anything about it. For now, let's say it's
    just a quirk.

    FT> DD.MM (day and month) and MM/YY (month and year)

    FT> 360 07.02 Flavio Bessa Fernando Toledo -Listado de BBS Latinos
    FT> 372 13.02 Rodrigo Pelaez Fernando Toledo Re: Listado de BBS Lat!
    FT> 385 01/21 Flavio Bessa Fernando Toledo Daily Nodelist proceus
    FT> 532 04.02 Flavio Bessa Fernando Toledo Binkd para DOS
    FT> 585 04.02 Fernando Toledo Fernando Toledo Re: Binkd para DOS
    FT> 282 04.02 Fernando Toledo Flavio Bessa Re: Binkd para DOS
    FT> 228 04.02 Flavio Bessa THIERRY OLMEDO Binkd para DOS
    FT> 1243 01/21 Fernando Toledo Flavio Bessa Re: Husky
    FT> 1133 01/21 Angel Ripoll Fernando Toledo -file echos
    FT> 1221 01/21 Angel Ripoll Fernando Toledo -Husky
    FT> 883 01/21 Flavio Bessa Fernando Toledo -Husky
    FT> 1594 01/21 Fernando Toledo Angel Ripoll Re: Husky
    FT> 3188 01/21 Fernando Toledo Angel Ripoll Re: file echos
    FT> 1657 01/21 Fernando Toledo Angel Ripoll Re: Husky
    FT> 760 01/21 Angel Ripoll Fernando Toledo -Husky

    FT> Please!!! can you add support for day, month and year??? (I dont care if
    FT> will yyyymmdd or ddmmyyyy but almost complete date and optional time
    FT> will be useful)

    *I* can't do anything about it, so I've passed your message on to the developer. As soon as he replies back, I'll let you know what he has to
    say.

    hi Martin Thanks you!
    I think that this kind of setting should be customized from the user.
    --- SBBSecho 3.14-Linux
    * Origin: Dock Sud BBS - http://bbs.docksud.com.ar (4:902/26)
  • From Fernando Toledo@4:902/26 to August Abolins on Mon Jan 24 13:35:34 2022
    El 22/1/22 a las 10:30, August Abolins escribió:
    Hello Martin!

    ** On Friday 21.01.22 - 14:36, your wrote to me:

    AA>> ..Personally, I like the mixed use of DD.MM and MM/YY
    AA>> It clearly helps to eyeball the messages that are clearly
    AA>> older than 12 months.

    MF> Well yes, there is that about it but it still tends to confuse me
    MF> occasionally, must be my age 8-/

    In retrospect, I thought that the use of DD.MM and MM/YY (for
    older than 12 months) was very clever. It's really not unlike
    what I see what some email programs try to do to help sort
    messages in a larger visual way. Besides, we (OXP users) also
    have the option to use the wonderful S)earch features to
    identify messages within a date range.

    If there were a change in the DD.MM vs MM/YY, I would rather
    have the option to retain that presentation as a config setting
    instead of replacing it with something to "fix" it.

    I agree, I do not consider it an error but a possible option to configure
    --- SBBSecho 3.14-Linux
    * Origin: Dock Sud BBS - http://bbs.docksud.com.ar (4:902/26)
  • From Martin Foster@2:310/31.3 to Fernando Toledo on Tue Jan 25 12:11:00 2022
    Hello Fernando!

    *** Monday 24.01.22 at 13:33, Fernando Toledo wrote to Martin Foster:

    [snip]
    *I* can't do anything about it, so I've passed your message on to the
    developer. As soon as he replies back, I'll let you know what he has to
    say.

    hi Martin Thanks you!

    You're welcome.

    I posted his reply in here, have you seen it?

    I think that this kind of setting should be customized from the user.

    Yes indeed and it *will* be customisable in the next release ;-)

    Regards,
    Martin

    --- OpenXP 5.0.51
    * Origin: OpenXP-Team (2:310/31.3)