• The Pascal Conference Rules

    From Moderator@1:230/150 to All on Sun Jun 3 10:55:06 2012
    RULES FOR THE PASCAL ECHO - THE DETAILS (updated February 1, 2012)

    The Pascal echo is an internationally distributed FidoNet echo devoted
    to the discussion and promotion of the Pascal programming language in
    all its variations.

    MODERATOR.

    The current moderator is Gert Koefoed Andersen. I can be reached by Netmail
    at 2:230/150 or by email at gert@kofo.org - Gert_k@andersen.tdcadsl.dk.

    RULES

    1. Leave moderation to the moderator. Self appointed "echo policemen"
    only waste echo space and create ill-feeling.

    2. NO FLAMING. If you feel that you have been insulted in some way by
    somebody, you have three options.
    (a) Complain by netmail to the person concerned.
    (b) Bring the matter to the moderator's notice - again by netmail.
    (c) Ignore it. (the preferred option!)

    3. Person-person messages that are not of general interest to other
    users are STRICTLY not permitted. Netmail these types of messages.

    4. When replying to messages try to do so "off-line" and quote some of
    the message being replied to, but don't go overboard with quoting.
    Quote just enough to enable the context of the reply to be fully
    understood and in particular DO NOT INCLUDE PARTS OF THE TEAR AND
    ORIGIN LINES.

    Try reading over your reply before you commit yourself to sending
    it. Try to anticipate the first question readers will ask, and add
    the answer to your message.

    5. When replying to questions with code examples, test them where
    possible by compiling and running them (or state that you have not
    done this). If possible always quote manual references, text
    references etc.

    6. If replying to a question where you are disagreeing with the other
    person's code or statements, support your viewpoint with working
    code examples or valid text references. This will be more
    productive than unsupported statements. If you are not prepared to
    do this then don't reply in the first place!

    7. Do not ENTER or REPLY TO off-topic messages. The subject matter is
    Pascal. Discussions on religion, politics, copyright, language
    wars and personal messages are OFF-TOPIC. Any subject that is
    illegal or undesirable in a responsible conference - eg discussion
    or tips on producing viruses or how to illegally obtain access to
    information that the user is unauthorised to obtain, is off-topic.

    Sometimes messages from other conferences become linked into
    another conference due to faulty software. Replying to, or
    commenting on, such messages is off-topic.

    The main point is to use common sense. Some light hearted banter
    can relieve the formality and brighten up one's day but do not
    carry this to the length where it becomes an extended thread. The
    object of the echo is to help, get help and enjoy communicating
    with like-minded people.

    8. No "thank-you" or "no content" or "rubbish" messages. Sysops spend
    a great deal of time and money to enable the distribution of echoes
    such as this. Please respect this and avoid messages such as "Thank
    you. Just what I needed" or "I agree" etc. By observing this
    etiquette you will be helping to ensure greater participation in
    the future. If you miss a message or code for some reason, make
    your own private arrangements to get it. Repeated postings of code
    are expensive and unnecessary.

    9. All messages are to be in the English language and must be in PLAIN
    TEXT. No encoding of any kind is permissible. As the aim of the
    conference is to help, discuss and demonstrate the Pascal language,
    no .OBJ, .EXE or .COM files of any description are permitted
    REGARDLESS of how they be constructed. The echo is NOT to be
    regarded as a file transfer or exchange channel.

    10. Limited, low key, on-topic advertising is permitted, provided that
    it is authorised by the sysop of the originating BBS and by the
    Moderator BEFORE it is posted here.

    11. When seeking assistance -
    a) If Turbo Pascal is your language, place the cursor on the key
    word and call the on-line help (Ctrl-F1 in the IDE) to see if
    the answer may be there.
    b) Double check the manual to see if the answer is there.
    c) When writing the message include enough code to allow would-be
    helpers to have a chance to determine what the problem might
    be. If possible condense the problem into a tiny working
    example and post that.
    d) This is a high volume echo so use a subject line in the message
    that is likely to gain attention from the experts who are often
    too busy to read every message. "Help wanted" or similar is a
    good way to be ignored. Something like "Exec procedure not
    working" is better.
    e) Remember that a reply of "RTFM" is not considered or meant as
    an insult. In fact it is considered a polite (in spite of the
    connotations) way of reminding someone that the answer they
    seek is in the manual.
    f) Remember also that your reply may come from anyone, of possibly
    unknown skill level. Don't be too upset if misled as it is
    probably unintentional and will almost certainly be corrected
    by another reader.
    g) Many BBSs carry a file - FAQ.TXT (or similar) - which contains
    the answers to frequently asked questions.
    h) Via Pascal-Net the SWAG files get distributed every 3 months.
    Most sources placed in this area, will make it to that
    collection. Check this file if it already has your answer in
    it, as most questions have been asked and aswered before.

    12. When offering advice or help -
    a) Do so in a helpful, polite manner. Don't be condescending -
    not everybody may have your experience or skills.
    b) Refer to the page in the manual where the answer is if your
    answer is "RTFM"! Better still, avoid using "RTFM" at all.

    13. Messages should comply with the FidoNet message requirements.
    Origin lines should not exceed 79 characters, tear lines must not
    exceed 25 characters and messages should not contain extended
    "internet" style signatures. No encoded text is permitted. Messages
    must be less than 200 lines, and less than 16K.

    14. Code posted should be in the public domain. No copyrighted code
    may be posted unless the copyright owner included permission for
    non-profit reproduction and use in the original code. Code posted
    without copyright claim will be regarded as in the Public Domain.

    15. Election of Moderator. Under a normal situation, if the moderator
    wishes to step aside, s/he will appoint a new moderator taking into
    account the wishes of the regular users where possible. In the
    event of a moderator ceasing to participate in the echo for a
    period of three months without prior notice being given of the
    absence, for whatever reason, then the ZEC (1:1/201) will conduct,
    or nominate a regular and senior echo participant to conduct an
    election for a new moderator.

    With kind regards,

    Gert Koefoed Andersen
    binkp.kofobbs.dk
    Moderator PASCAL
    Pascal-Net IC 115:115/0
    --- Posted by The Pascal Moderator
    * Origin: The given word from The Pascal-Net IC (1:230/150)
  • From Moderator@1:230/150 to All on Sun Jun 3 10:55:10 2012
    RULES FOR THE PASCAL ECHO - THE DETAILS (updated February 1, 2012)

    The Pascal echo is an internationally distributed FidoNet echo devoted
    to the discussion and promotion of the Pascal programming language in
    all its variations.

    MODERATOR.

    The current moderator is Gert Koefoed Andersen. I can be reached by Netmail
    at 2:230/150 or by email at gert@kofo.org - Gert_k@andersen.tdcadsl.dk.

    RULES

    1. Leave moderation to the moderator. Self appointed "echo policemen"
    only waste echo space and create ill-feeling.

    2. NO FLAMING. If you feel that you have been insulted in some way by
    somebody, you have three options.
    (a) Complain by netmail to the person concerned.
    (b) Bring the matter to the moderator's notice - again by netmail.
    (c) Ignore it. (the preferred option!)

    3. Person-person messages that are not of general interest to other
    users are STRICTLY not permitted. Netmail these types of messages.

    4. When replying to messages try to do so "off-line" and quote some of
    the message being replied to, but don't go overboard with quoting.
    Quote just enough to enable the context of the reply to be fully
    understood and in particular DO NOT INCLUDE PARTS OF THE TEAR AND
    ORIGIN LINES.

    Try reading over your reply before you commit yourself to sending
    it. Try to anticipate the first question readers will ask, and add
    the answer to your message.

    5. When replying to questions with code examples, test them where
    possible by compiling and running them (or state that you have not
    done this). If possible always quote manual references, text
    references etc.

    6. If replying to a question where you are disagreeing with the other
    person's code or statements, support your viewpoint with working
    code examples or valid text references. This will be more
    productive than unsupported statements. If you are not prepared to
    do this then don't reply in the first place!

    7. Do not ENTER or REPLY TO off-topic messages. The subject matter is
    Pascal. Discussions on religion, politics, copyright, language
    wars and personal messages are OFF-TOPIC. Any subject that is
    illegal or undesirable in a responsible conference - eg discussion
    or tips on producing viruses or how to illegally obtain access to
    information that the user is unauthorised to obtain, is off-topic.

    Sometimes messages from other conferences become linked into
    another conference due to faulty software. Replying to, or
    commenting on, such messages is off-topic.

    The main point is to use common sense. Some light hearted banter
    can relieve the formality and brighten up one's day but do not
    carry this to the length where it becomes an extended thread. The
    object of the echo is to help, get help and enjoy communicating
    with like-minded people.

    8. No "thank-you" or "no content" or "rubbish" messages. Sysops spend
    a great deal of time and money to enable the distribution of echoes
    such as this. Please respect this and avoid messages such as "Thank
    you. Just what I needed" or "I agree" etc. By observing this
    etiquette you will be helping to ensure greater participation in
    the future. If you miss a message or code for some reason, make
    your own private arrangements to get it. Repeated postings of code
    are expensive and unnecessary.

    9. All messages are to be in the English language and must be in PLAIN
    TEXT. No encoding of any kind is permissible. As the aim of the
    conference is to help, discuss and demonstrate the Pascal language,
    no .OBJ, .EXE or .COM files of any description are permitted
    REGARDLESS of how they be constructed. The echo is NOT to be
    regarded as a file transfer or exchange channel.

    10. Limited, low key, on-topic advertising is permitted, provided that
    it is authorised by the sysop of the originating BBS and by the
    Moderator BEFORE it is posted here.

    11. When seeking assistance -
    a) If Turbo Pascal is your language, place the cursor on the key
    word and call the on-line help (Ctrl-F1 in the IDE) to see if
    the answer may be there.
    b) Double check the manual to see if the answer is there.
    c) When writing the message include enough code to allow would-be
    helpers to have a chance to determine what the problem might
    be. If possible condense the problem into a tiny working
    example and post that.
    d) This is a high volume echo so use a subject line in the message
    that is likely to gain attention from the experts who are often
    too busy to read every message. "Help wanted" or similar is a
    good way to be ignored. Something like "Exec procedure not
    working" is better.
    e) Remember that a reply of "RTFM" is not considered or meant as
    an insult. In fact it is considered a polite (in spite of the
    connotations) way of reminding someone that the answer they
    seek is in the manual.
    f) Remember also that your reply may come from anyone, of possibly
    unknown skill level. Don't be too upset if misled as it is
    probably unintentional and will almost certainly be corrected
    by another reader.
    g) Many BBSs carry a file - FAQ.TXT (or similar) - which contains
    the answers to frequently asked questions.
    h) Via Pascal-Net the SWAG files get distributed every 3 months.
    Most sources placed in this area, will make it to that
    collection. Check this file if it already has your answer in
    it, as most questions have been asked and aswered before.

    12. When offering advice or help -
    a) Do so in a helpful, polite manner. Don't be condescending -
    not everybody may have your experience or skills.
    b) Refer to the page in the manual where the answer is if your
    answer is "RTFM"! Better still, avoid using "RTFM" at all.

    13. Messages should comply with the FidoNet message requirements.
    Origin lines should not exceed 79 characters, tear lines must not
    exceed 25 characters and messages should not contain extended
    "internet" style signatures. No encoded text is permitted. Messages
    must be less than 200 lines, and less than 16K.

    14. Code posted should be in the public domain. No copyrighted code
    may be posted unless the copyright owner included permission for
    non-profit reproduction and use in the original code. Code posted
    without copyright claim will be regarded as in the Public Domain.

    15. Election of Moderator. Under a normal situation, if the moderator
    wishes to step aside, s/he will appoint a new moderator taking into
    account the wishes of the regular users where possible. In the
    event of a moderator ceasing to participate in the echo for a
    period of three months without prior notice being given of the
    absence, for whatever reason, then the ZEC (1:1/201) will conduct,
    or nominate a regular and senior echo participant to conduct an
    election for a new moderator.

    With kind regards,

    Gert Koefoed Andersen
    binkp.kofobbs.dk
    Moderator PASCAL
    Pascal-Net IC 115:115/0
    --- Posted by The Pascal Moderator
    * Origin: The given word from The Pascal-Net IC (1:230/150)
  • From Moderator@1:230/150 to All on Mon Feb 3 09:30:18 2014
    RULES FOR THE PASCAL ECHO - THE DETAILS (updated February 1, 2012)

    The Pascal echo is an internationally distributed FidoNet echo devoted
    to the discussion and promotion of the Pascal programming language in
    all its variations.

    MODERATOR.

    The current moderator is Gert Koefoed Andersen. I can be reached by Netmail
    at 2:230/150 or by email at gert@kofo.org - Gert_k@andersen.tdcadsl.dk.

    RULES

    1. Leave moderation to the moderator. Self appointed "echo policemen"
    only waste echo space and create ill-feeling.

    2. NO FLAMING. If you feel that you have been insulted in some way by
    somebody, you have three options.
    (a) Complain by netmail to the person concerned.
    (b) Bring the matter to the moderator's notice - again by netmail.
    (c) Ignore it. (the preferred option!)

    3. Person-person messages that are not of general interest to other
    users are STRICTLY not permitted. Netmail these types of messages.

    4. When replying to messages try to do so "off-line" and quote some of
    the message being replied to, but don't go overboard with quoting.
    Quote just enough to enable the context of the reply to be fully
    understood and in particular DO NOT INCLUDE PARTS OF THE TEAR AND
    ORIGIN LINES.

    Try reading over your reply before you commit yourself to sending
    it. Try to anticipate the first question readers will ask, and add
    the answer to your message.

    5. When replying to questions with code examples, test them where
    possible by compiling and running them (or state that you have not
    done this). If possible always quote manual references, text
    references etc.

    6. If replying to a question where you are disagreeing with the other
    person's code or statements, support your viewpoint with working
    code examples or valid text references. This will be more
    productive than unsupported statements. If you are not prepared to
    do this then don't reply in the first place!

    7. Do not ENTER or REPLY TO off-topic messages. The subject matter is
    Pascal. Discussions on religion, politics, copyright, language
    wars and personal messages are OFF-TOPIC. Any subject that is
    illegal or undesirable in a responsible conference - eg discussion
    or tips on producing viruses or how to illegally obtain access to
    information that the user is unauthorised to obtain, is off-topic.

    Sometimes messages from other conferences become linked into
    another conference due to faulty software. Replying to, or
    commenting on, such messages is off-topic.

    The main point is to use common sense. Some light hearted banter
    can relieve the formality and brighten up one's day but do not
    carry this to the length where it becomes an extended thread. The
    object of the echo is to help, get help and enjoy communicating
    with like-minded people.

    8. No "thank-you" or "no content" or "rubbish" messages. Sysops spend
    a great deal of time and money to enable the distribution of echoes
    such as this. Please respect this and avoid messages such as "Thank
    you. Just what I needed" or "I agree" etc. By observing this
    etiquette you will be helping to ensure greater participation in
    the future. If you miss a message or code for some reason, make
    your own private arrangements to get it. Repeated postings of code
    are expensive and unnecessary.

    9. All messages are to be in the English language and must be in PLAIN
    TEXT. No encoding of any kind is permissible. As the aim of the
    conference is to help, discuss and demonstrate the Pascal language,
    no .OBJ, .EXE or .COM files of any description are permitted
    REGARDLESS of how they be constructed. The echo is NOT to be
    regarded as a file transfer or exchange channel.

    10. Limited, low key, on-topic advertising is permitted, provided that
    it is authorised by the sysop of the originating BBS and by the
    Moderator BEFORE it is posted here.

    11. When seeking assistance -
    a) If Turbo Pascal is your language, place the cursor on the key
    word and call the on-line help (Ctrl-F1 in the IDE) to see if
    the answer may be there.
    b) Double check the manual to see if the answer is there.
    c) When writing the message include enough code to allow would-be
    helpers to have a chance to determine what the problem might
    be. If possible condense the problem into a tiny working
    example and post that.
    d) This is a high volume echo so use a subject line in the message
    that is likely to gain attention from the experts who are often
    too busy to read every message. "Help wanted" or similar is a
    good way to be ignored. Something like "Exec procedure not
    working" is better.
    e) Remember that a reply of "RTFM" is not considered or meant as
    an insult. In fact it is considered a polite (in spite of the
    connotations) way of reminding someone that the answer they
    seek is in the manual.
    f) Remember also that your reply may come from anyone, of possibly
    unknown skill level. Don't be too upset if misled as it is
    probably unintentional and will almost certainly be corrected
    by another reader.
    g) Many BBSs carry a file - FAQ.TXT (or similar) - which contains
    the answers to frequently asked questions.
    h) Via Pascal-Net the SWAG files get distributed every 3 months.
    Most sources placed in this area, will make it to that
    collection. Check this file if it already has your answer in
    it, as most questions have been asked and aswered before.

    12. When offering advice or help -
    a) Do so in a helpful, polite manner. Don't be condescending -
    not everybody may have your experience or skills.
    b) Refer to the page in the manual where the answer is if your
    answer is "RTFM"! Better still, avoid using "RTFM" at all.

    13. Messages should comply with the FidoNet message requirements.
    Origin lines should not exceed 79 characters, tear lines must not
    exceed 25 characters and messages should not contain extended
    "internet" style signatures. No encoded text is permitted. Messages
    must be less than 200 lines, and less than 16K.

    14. Code posted should be in the public domain. No copyrighted code
    may be posted unless the copyright owner included permission for
    non-profit reproduction and use in the original code. Code posted
    without copyright claim will be regarded as in the Public Domain.

    15. Election of Moderator. Under a normal situation, if the moderator
    wishes to step aside, s/he will appoint a new moderator taking into
    account the wishes of the regular users where possible. In the
    event of a moderator ceasing to participate in the echo for a
    period of three months without prior notice being given of the
    absence, for whatever reason, then the ZEC (1:1/201) will conduct,
    or nominate a regular and senior echo participant to conduct an
    election for a new moderator.

    With kind regards,

    Gert Koefoed Andersen
    binkp.kofobbs.dk
    Moderator PASCAL
    Pascal-Net IC 115:115/0
    --- Posted by The Pascal Moderator
    * Origin: The given word from The Pascal-Net IC (1:230/150)
  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Moderator on Mon Feb 3 10:20:07 2014
    Hi Moderator,

    On 2014-02-03 09:30:18, you wrote to All:

    @MSGID: 1:230/150 52ef539c

    * Origin: The given word from The Pascal-Net IC (1:230/150)

    1:230/150 ? Did Benny move Danmark to Z1 ? ;)

    Bye, Wilfred.

    --- FMail-W32-1.67.0.46-B20140112
    * Origin: Amiga Offline BBS Lisse (2:280/464)
  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.71 to Wilfred van Velzen on Mon Feb 3 11:54:45 2014
    On Mon, 03 Feb 2014, Wilfred van Velzen wrote to Moderator:

    Hi Moderator,

    On 2014-02-03 09:30:18, you wrote to All:

    @MSGID: 1:230/150 52ef539c

    * Origin: The given word from The Pascal-Net IC (1:230/150)

    1:230/150 ? Did Benny move Danmark to Z1 ? ;)

    benny is not the pascal echo moderator... gert is ;)

    )\/(ark

    One of the great tragedies of life is the murder of a beautiful theory by a gang of brutal facts. --Benjamin Franklin

    --- FMail/Win32 1.60
    * Origin: (1:3634/12.71)
  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to mark lewis on Mon Feb 3 18:37:48 2014
    1:230/150 ? Did Benny move Danmark to Z1 ? ;)

    benny is not the pascal echo moderator... gert is ;)

    The echo moderator cannot move a node. The RC might. Guess who's RC23?

    --- Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; sv-SE; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20101125
    * Origin: news://felten.yi.org (2:203/2)
  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.71 to Björn Felten on Mon Feb 3 15:19:19 2014
    On Mon, 03 Feb 2014, Bj”rn Felten wrote to mark lewis:

    1:230/150 ? Did Benny move Danmark to Z1 ? ;)

    benny is not the pascal echo moderator... gert is ;)

    The echo moderator cannot move a node.

    who said they did?? benny is not the moderator but the poster i corrected (WvV)
    seemed to think he was since it was a moderator rules posting he was replying to...

    then, too, an echo moderator can move his node or the bbs he posts from anywhere he wants to and no one can stop him ;)

    The RC might. Guess who's RC23?

    who cares? it has nothing to do with this echo or the question(s) asked by WvV ;)

    )\/(ark

    One of the great tragedies of life is the murder of a beautiful theory by a gang of brutal facts. --Benjamin Franklin

    --- FMail/Win32 1.60
    * Origin: (1:3634/12.71)
  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to mark lewis on Mon Feb 3 18:11:44 2014
    Hi,

    On 2014-02-03 11:54:45, mark lewis wrote to Wilfred van Velzen:
    about: "The Pascal Conference Rules":

    @MSGID: 1:230/150 52ef539c

    * Origin: The given word from The Pascal-Net IC (1:230/150)

    1:230/150 ? Did Benny move Danmark to Z1 ? ;)

    benny is not the pascal echo moderator... gert is ;)

    I know, but Benny is the RC. Gert can't move his node number to Z1 without Benny's help... ;)

    Bye, Wilfred.


    --- FMail-W32-1.67.0.46-B20140112
    * Origin: Native IPv6 connectable node (2:280/464)
  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.71 to Wilfred van Velzen on Mon Feb 3 19:01:51 2014
    On Mon, 03 Feb 2014, Wilfred van Velzen wrote to mark lewis:

    @MSGID: 1:230/150 52ef539c

    * Origin: The given word from The Pascal-Net IC (1:230/150)

    1:230/150 ? Did Benny move Danmark to Z1 ? ;)

    benny is not the pascal echo moderator... gert is ;)

    I know, but Benny is the RC. Gert can't move his node number to Z1 without Benny's help... ;)

    sure he can but that's not a topic for this area... in looking back at the original post, i would have to say that there is a misconfiguration on gert's machine... if not that, then something between his system and others' (our's) is broken... the original post showed zone1 for all the places where it should have shown zone2... the question is where the problem lays... at the origin or somewhere after... we won't even mention all the systems passing the mail from a non existent node but if that were enforced, then new nodes not yet listed would also not have their messages propagated when they may need to be...

    )\/(ark

    One of the great tragedies of life is the murder of a beautiful theory by a gang of brutal facts. --Benjamin Franklin

    --- FMail/Win32 1.60
    * Origin: (1:3634/12.71)
  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to mark lewis on Tue Feb 4 09:26:26 2014
    Hi mark,

    On 2014-02-03 19:01:51, you wrote to me:

    benny is not the pascal echo moderator... gert is ;)

    I know, but Benny is the RC. Gert can't move his node number to Z1
    without Benny's help... ;)

    sure he can but that's not a topic for this area...

    Yeah, of course, but than he would get a totally different nodenumber. But we shouldn't look too much into the technicalities of a Zone change, it was just my "humorous" way of pointing Gert at a mistake in his configuration.

    in looking back at the original post, i would have to say that there
    is a misconfiguration on gert's machine...

    Of course there is. There were also 1 or 2 minor changes in the text of the moderator rules, so he obviously did some thinkering with his config...

    if not that, then something between his system and others' (our's) is broken... the original post showed zone1 for all the places where it should have shown zone2... the question is where the problem lays...
    at the origin or somewhere after... we won't even mention all the
    systems passing the mail from a non existent node

    The path from me to him wasn't that long:

    @PATH: 230/150 261/38 712/848 280/464

    I very much doubt Janis's or Scotts system caused this, because than we should see much more of those mistakes. (Although I wouldn't rule out that it's Janis's attempt at world domination ;)). And it arrived here in that state, so I can rule out my system...

    Bye, Wilfred.

    --- FMail-W32-1.67.0.46-B20140112
    * Origin: Amiga Offline BBS Lisse (2:280/464)
  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to mark lewis on Tue Feb 4 12:10:33 2014
    the original post, i would have to say that there is a misconfiguration
    on gert's machine...

    I think that's what Wilfred was trying to say -- in a humorous way.

    --- Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; sv-SE; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20101125
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  • From Gert Andersen@2:230/150 to Wilfred van Velzen on Sat Feb 8 10:47:24 2014
    Hello Wilfred!

    Mon Feb 03 2014, Wilfred van Velzen wrote to Moderator:

    Hi Moderator,

    On 2014-02-03 09:30:18, you wrote to All:

    @MSGID: 1:230/150 52ef539c

    * Origin: The given word from The Pascal-Net IC (1:230/150)

    1:230/150 ? Did Benny move Danmark to Z1 ? ;)

    It can be a little error in a script file. :)

    Take care,
    Gert

    - Get the best with linux -

    --- Msged/LNX 6.2.0 (Linux/2.6.39-gentoo-r1 (x86_64))
    * Origin: * The KofoBBS at http://www.kofobbs.dk * (2:230/150)
  • From Moderator@2:230/150 to All on Sat Feb 8 10:52:04 2014
    RULES FOR THE PASCAL ECHO - THE DETAILS (updated February 1, 2012)

    The Pascal echo is an internationally distributed FidoNet echo devoted
    to the discussion and promotion of the Pascal programming language in
    all its variations.

    MODERATOR.

    The current moderator is Gert Koefoed Andersen. I can be reached by Netmail
    at 2:230/150 or by email at gert@kofo.org - Gert_k@andersen.tdcadsl.dk.

    RULES

    1. Leave moderation to the moderator. Self appointed "echo policemen"
    only waste echo space and create ill-feeling.

    2. NO FLAMING. If you feel that you have been insulted in some way by
    somebody, you have three options.
    (a) Complain by netmail to the person concerned.
    (b) Bring the matter to the moderator's notice - again by netmail.
    (c) Ignore it. (the preferred option!)

    3. Person-person messages that are not of general interest to other
    users are STRICTLY not permitted. Netmail these types of messages.

    4. When replying to messages try to do so "off-line" and quote some of
    the message being replied to, but don't go overboard with quoting.
    Quote just enough to enable the context of the reply to be fully
    understood and in particular DO NOT INCLUDE PARTS OF THE TEAR AND
    ORIGIN LINES.

    Try reading over your reply before you commit yourself to sending
    it. Try to anticipate the first question readers will ask, and add
    the answer to your message.

    5. When replying to questions with code examples, test them where
    possible by compiling and running them (or state that you have not
    done this). If possible always quote manual references, text
    references etc.

    6. If replying to a question where you are disagreeing with the other
    person's code or statements, support your viewpoint with working
    code examples or valid text references. This will be more
    productive than unsupported statements. If you are not prepared to
    do this then don't reply in the first place!

    7. Do not ENTER or REPLY TO off-topic messages. The subject matter is
    Pascal. Discussions on religion, politics, copyright, language
    wars and personal messages are OFF-TOPIC. Any subject that is
    illegal or undesirable in a responsible conference - eg discussion
    or tips on producing viruses or how to illegally obtain access to
    information that the user is unauthorised to obtain, is off-topic.

    Sometimes messages from other conferences become linked into
    another conference due to faulty software. Replying to, or
    commenting on, such messages is off-topic.

    The main point is to use common sense. Some light hearted banter
    can relieve the formality and brighten up one's day but do not
    carry this to the length where it becomes an extended thread. The
    object of the echo is to help, get help and enjoy communicating
    with like-minded people.

    8. No "thank-you" or "no content" or "rubbish" messages. Sysops spend
    a great deal of time and money to enable the distribution of echoes
    such as this. Please respect this and avoid messages such as "Thank
    you. Just what I needed" or "I agree" etc. By observing this
    etiquette you will be helping to ensure greater participation in
    the future. If you miss a message or code for some reason, make
    your own private arrangements to get it. Repeated postings of code
    are expensive and unnecessary.

    9. All messages are to be in the English language and must be in PLAIN
    TEXT. No encoding of any kind is permissible. As the aim of the
    conference is to help, discuss and demonstrate the Pascal language,
    no .OBJ, .EXE or .COM files of any description are permitted
    REGARDLESS of how they be constructed. The echo is NOT to be
    regarded as a file transfer or exchange channel.

    10. Limited, low key, on-topic advertising is permitted, provided that
    it is authorised by the sysop of the originating BBS and by the
    Moderator BEFORE it is posted here.

    11. When seeking assistance -
    a) If Turbo Pascal is your language, place the cursor on the key
    word and call the on-line help (Ctrl-F1 in the IDE) to see if
    the answer may be there.
    b) Double check the manual to see if the answer is there.
    c) When writing the message include enough code to allow would-be
    helpers to have a chance to determine what the problem might
    be. If possible condense the problem into a tiny working
    example and post that.
    d) This is a high volume echo so use a subject line in the message
    that is likely to gain attention from the experts who are often
    too busy to read every message. "Help wanted" or similar is a
    good way to be ignored. Something like "Exec procedure not
    working" is better.
    e) Remember that a reply of "RTFM" is not considered or meant as
    an insult. In fact it is considered a polite (in spite of the
    connotations) way of reminding someone that the answer they
    seek is in the manual.
    f) Remember also that your reply may come from anyone, of possibly
    unknown skill level. Don't be too upset if misled as it is
    probably unintentional and will almost certainly be corrected
    by another reader.
    g) Many BBSs carry a file - FAQ.TXT (or similar) - which contains
    the answers to frequently asked questions.
    h) Via Pascal-Net the SWAG files get distributed every 3 months.
    Most sources placed in this area, will make it to that
    collection. Check this file if it already has your answer in
    it, as most questions have been asked and aswered before.

    12. When offering advice or help -
    a) Do so in a helpful, polite manner. Don't be condescending -
    not everybody may have your experience or skills.
    b) Refer to the page in the manual where the answer is if your
    answer is "RTFM"! Better still, avoid using "RTFM" at all.

    13. Messages should comply with the FidoNet message requirements.
    Origin lines should not exceed 79 characters, tear lines must not
    exceed 25 characters and messages should not contain extended
    "internet" style signatures. No encoded text is permitted. Messages
    must be less than 200 lines, and less than 16K.

    14. Code posted should be in the public domain. No copyrighted code
    may be posted unless the copyright owner included permission for
    non-profit reproduction and use in the original code. Code posted
    without copyright claim will be regarded as in the Public Domain.

    15. Election of Moderator. Under a normal situation, if the moderator
    wishes to step aside, s/he will appoint a new moderator taking into
    account the wishes of the regular users where possible. In the
    event of a moderator ceasing to participate in the echo for a
    period of three months without prior notice being given of the
    absence, for whatever reason, then the ZEC (1:1/201) will conduct,
    or nominate a regular and senior echo participant to conduct an
    election for a new moderator.

    With kind regards,

    Gert Koefoed Andersen
    binkp.kofobbs.dk
    Moderator PASCAL
    Pascal-Net IC 115:115/0
    --- Posted by The Pascal Moderator
    * Origin: The given word from The Pascal-Net IC (2:230/150)
  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Gert Andersen on Sat Feb 8 11:55:24 2014
    Hi,

    On 2014-02-08 10:47:24, Gert Andersen wrote to Wilfred van Velzen:
    about: "Re: The Pascal Conference Rules":

    @MSGID: 1:230/150 52ef539c

    * Origin: The given word from The Pascal-Net IC (1:230/150)

    1:230/150 ? Did Benny move Danmark to Z1 ? ;)

    It can be a little error in a script file. :)

    Really? ;)

    Anyway I notice you fixed it! ...


    Bye, Wilfred.


    --- FMail-W32-1.67.0.46-B20140112
    * Origin: Native IPv6 connectable node (2:280/464)
  • From Gert Andersen@2:230/150 to Wilfred van Velzen on Sun Feb 9 09:43:48 2014
    * Reply to message originally in area CarbonArea

    Hello Wilfred!

    Sat Feb 08 2014, Wilfred van Velzen wrote to Gert Andersen:


    @MSGID: 1:230/150 52ef539c

    * Origin: The given word from The Pascal-Net IC (1:230/150)

    1:230/150 ? Did Benny move Danmark to Z1 ? ;)

    It can be a little error in a script file. :)

    Really? ;)

    Anyway I notice you fixed it! ...

    Yes, I took a look in the scripts files and saw the little error and changed from 1: to 2: so it now works to the right aka or zone.


    Take care,
    Gert

    - Get the best with linux -

    --- Msged/LNX 6.2.0 (Linux/2.6.39-gentoo-r1 (x86_64))
    * Origin: KofoBBS at ftp://ftp.kofobbs.dk (2:230/150)
  • From Moderator@2:230/150 to All on Tue Sep 1 10:14:22 2015
    RULES FOR THE PASCAL ECHO - THE DETAILS (updated February 1, 2012)

    The Pascal echo is an internationally distributed FidoNet echo devoted
    to the discussion and promotion of the Pascal programming language in
    all its variations.

    MODERATOR.

    The current moderator is Gert Koefoed Andersen. I can be reached by Netmail
    at 2:230/150 or by email at gert@kofo.org - Gert_k@andersen.tdcadsl.dk.

    RULES

    1. Leave moderation to the moderator. Self appointed "echo policemen"
    only waste echo space and create ill-feeling.

    2. NO FLAMING. If you feel that you have been insulted in some way by
    somebody, you have three options.
    (a) Complain by netmail to the person concerned.
    (b) Bring the matter to the moderator's notice - again by netmail.
    (c) Ignore it. (the preferred option!)

    3. Person-person messages that are not of general interest to other
    users are STRICTLY not permitted. Netmail these types of messages.

    4. When replying to messages try to do so "off-line" and quote some of
    the message being replied to, but don't go overboard with quoting.
    Quote just enough to enable the context of the reply to be fully
    understood and in particular DO NOT INCLUDE PARTS OF THE TEAR AND
    ORIGIN LINES.

    Try reading over your reply before you commit yourself to sending
    it. Try to anticipate the first question readers will ask, and add
    the answer to your message.

    5. When replying to questions with code examples, test them where
    possible by compiling and running them (or state that you have not
    done this). If possible always quote manual references, text
    references etc.

    6. If replying to a question where you are disagreeing with the other
    person's code or statements, support your viewpoint with working
    code examples or valid text references. This will be more
    productive than unsupported statements. If you are not prepared to
    do this then don't reply in the first place!

    7. Do not ENTER or REPLY TO off-topic messages. The subject matter is
    Pascal. Discussions on religion, politics, copyright, language
    wars and personal messages are OFF-TOPIC. Any subject that is
    illegal or undesirable in a responsible conference - eg discussion
    or tips on producing viruses or how to illegally obtain access to
    information that the user is unauthorised to obtain, is off-topic.

    Sometimes messages from other conferences become linked into
    another conference due to faulty software. Replying to, or
    commenting on, such messages is off-topic.

    The main point is to use common sense. Some light hearted banter
    can relieve the formality and brighten up one's day but do not
    carry this to the length where it becomes an extended thread. The
    object of the echo is to help, get help and enjoy communicating
    with like-minded people.

    8. No "thank-you" or "no content" or "rubbish" messages. Sysops spend
    a great deal of time and money to enable the distribution of echoes
    such as this. Please respect this and avoid messages such as "Thank
    you. Just what I needed" or "I agree" etc. By observing this
    etiquette you will be helping to ensure greater participation in
    the future. If you miss a message or code for some reason, make
    your own private arrangements to get it. Repeated postings of code
    are expensive and unnecessary.

    9. All messages are to be in the English language and must be in PLAIN
    TEXT. No encoding of any kind is permissible. As the aim of the
    conference is to help, discuss and demonstrate the Pascal language,
    no .OBJ, .EXE or .COM files of any description are permitted
    REGARDLESS of how they be constructed. The echo is NOT to be
    regarded as a file transfer or exchange channel.

    10. Limited, low key, on-topic advertising is permitted, provided that
    it is authorised by the sysop of the originating BBS and by the
    Moderator BEFORE it is posted here.

    11. When seeking assistance -
    a) If Turbo Pascal is your language, place the cursor on the key
    word and call the on-line help (Ctrl-F1 in the IDE) to see if
    the answer may be there.
    b) Double check the manual to see if the answer is there.
    c) When writing the message include enough code to allow would-be
    helpers to have a chance to determine what the problem might
    be. If possible condense the problem into a tiny working
    example and post that.
    d) This is a high volume echo so use a subject line in the message
    that is likely to gain attention from the experts who are often
    too busy to read every message. "Help wanted" or similar is a
    good way to be ignored. Something like "Exec procedure not
    working" is better.
    e) Remember that a reply of "RTFM" is not considered or meant as
    an insult. In fact it is considered a polite (in spite of the
    connotations) way of reminding someone that the answer they
    seek is in the manual.
    f) Remember also that your reply may come from anyone, of possibly
    unknown skill level. Don't be too upset if misled as it is
    probably unintentional and will almost certainly be corrected
    by another reader.
    g) Many BBSs carry a file - FAQ.TXT (or similar) - which contains
    the answers to frequently asked questions.
    h) Via Pascal-Net the SWAG files get distributed every 3 months.
    Most sources placed in this area, will make it to that
    collection. Check this file if it already has your answer in
    it, as most questions have been asked and aswered before.

    12. When offering advice or help -
    a) Do so in a helpful, polite manner. Don't be condescending -
    not everybody may have your experience or skills.
    b) Refer to the page in the manual where the answer is if your
    answer is "RTFM"! Better still, avoid using "RTFM" at all.

    13. Messages should comply with the FidoNet message requirements.
    Origin lines should not exceed 79 characters, tear lines must not
    exceed 25 characters and messages should not contain extended
    "internet" style signatures. No encoded text is permitted. Messages
    must be less than 200 lines, and less than 16K.

    14. Code posted should be in the public domain. No copyrighted code
    may be posted unless the copyright owner included permission for
    non-profit reproduction and use in the original code. Code posted
    without copyright claim will be regarded as in the Public Domain.

    15. Election of Moderator. Under a normal situation, if the moderator
    wishes to step aside, s/he will appoint a new moderator taking into
    account the wishes of the regular users where possible. In the
    event of a moderator ceasing to participate in the echo for a
    period of three months without prior notice being given of the
    absence, for whatever reason, then the ZEC (1:1/201) will conduct,
    or nominate a regular and senior echo participant to conduct an
    election for a new moderator.

    With kind regards,

    Gert Koefoed Andersen
    binkp.kofobbs.dk
    Moderator PASCAL
    Pascal-Net IC 115:115/0
    --- Posted by The Pascal Moderator
    * Origin: The given word from The Pascal-Net IC (2:230/150)
  • From Moderator@2:230/150 to All on Thu Mar 1 09:38:50 2018
    RULES FOR THE PASCAL ECHO - THE DETAILS (updated February 1, 2012)

    The Pascal echo is an internationally distributed FidoNet echo devoted
    to the discussion and promotion of the Pascal programming language in
    all its variations.

    MODERATOR.

    The current moderator is Gert Koefoed Andersen. I can be reached by Netmail
    at 2:230/150 or by email at gert@kofo.org - Gert_k@andersen.tdcadsl.dk.

    RULES

    1. Leave moderation to the moderator. Self appointed "echo policemen"
    only waste echo space and create ill-feeling.

    2. NO FLAMING. If you feel that you have been insulted in some way by
    somebody, you have three options.
    (a) Complain by netmail to the person concerned.
    (b) Bring the matter to the moderator's notice - again by netmail.
    (c) Ignore it. (the preferred option!)

    3. Person-person messages that are not of general interest to other
    users are STRICTLY not permitted. Netmail these types of messages.

    4. When replying to messages try to do so "off-line" and quote some of
    the message being replied to, but don't go overboard with quoting.
    Quote just enough to enable the context of the reply to be fully
    understood and in particular DO NOT INCLUDE PARTS OF THE TEAR AND
    ORIGIN LINES.

    Try reading over your reply before you commit yourself to sending
    it. Try to anticipate the first question readers will ask, and add
    the answer to your message.

    5. When replying to questions with code examples, test them where
    possible by compiling and running them (or state that you have not
    done this). If possible always quote manual references, text
    references etc.

    6. If replying to a question where you are disagreeing with the other
    person's code or statements, support your viewpoint with working
    code examples or valid text references. This will be more
    productive than unsupported statements. If you are not prepared to
    do this then don't reply in the first place!

    7. Do not ENTER or REPLY TO off-topic messages. The subject matter is
    Pascal. Discussions on religion, politics, copyright, language
    wars and personal messages are OFF-TOPIC. Any subject that is
    illegal or undesirable in a responsible conference - eg discussion
    or tips on producing viruses or how to illegally obtain access to
    information that the user is unauthorised to obtain, is off-topic.

    Sometimes messages from other conferences become linked into
    another conference due to faulty software. Replying to, or
    commenting on, such messages is off-topic.

    The main point is to use common sense. Some light hearted banter
    can relieve the formality and brighten up one's day but do not
    carry this to the length where it becomes an extended thread. The
    object of the echo is to help, get help and enjoy communicating
    with like-minded people.

    8. No "thank-you" or "no content" or "rubbish" messages. Sysops spend
    a great deal of time and money to enable the distribution of echoes
    such as this. Please respect this and avoid messages such as "Thank
    you. Just what I needed" or "I agree" etc. By observing this
    etiquette you will be helping to ensure greater participation in
    the future. If you miss a message or code for some reason, make
    your own private arrangements to get it. Repeated postings of code
    are expensive and unnecessary.

    9. All messages are to be in the English language and must be in PLAIN
    TEXT. No encoding of any kind is permissible. As the aim of the
    conference is to help, discuss and demonstrate the Pascal language,
    no .OBJ, .EXE or .COM files of any description are permitted
    REGARDLESS of how they be constructed. The echo is NOT to be
    regarded as a file transfer or exchange channel.

    10. Limited, low key, on-topic advertising is permitted, provided that
    it is authorised by the sysop of the originating BBS and by the
    Moderator BEFORE it is posted here.

    11. When seeking assistance -
    a) If Turbo Pascal is your language, place the cursor on the key
    word and call the on-line help (Ctrl-F1 in the IDE) to see if
    the answer may be there.
    b) Double check the manual to see if the answer is there.
    c) When writing the message include enough code to allow would-be
    helpers to have a chance to determine what the problem might
    be. If possible condense the problem into a tiny working
    example and post that.
    d) This is a high volume echo so use a subject line in the message
    that is likely to gain attention from the experts who are often
    too busy to read every message. "Help wanted" or similar is a
    good way to be ignored. Something like "Exec procedure not
    working" is better.
    e) Remember that a reply of "RTFM" is not considered or meant as
    an insult. In fact it is considered a polite (in spite of the
    connotations) way of reminding someone that the answer they
    seek is in the manual.
    f) Remember also that your reply may come from anyone, of possibly
    unknown skill level. Don't be too upset if misled as it is
    probably unintentional and will almost certainly be corrected
    by another reader.
    g) Many BBSs carry a file - FAQ.TXT (or similar) - which contains
    the answers to frequently asked questions.
    h) Via Pascal-Net the SWAG files get distributed every 3 months.
    Most sources placed in this area, will make it to that
    collection. Check this file if it already has your answer in
    it, as most questions have been asked and aswered before.

    12. When offering advice or help -
    a) Do so in a helpful, polite manner. Don't be condescending -
    not everybody may have your experience or skills.
    b) Refer to the page in the manual where the answer is if your
    answer is "RTFM"! Better still, avoid using "RTFM" at all.

    13. Messages should comply with the FidoNet message requirements.
    Origin lines should not exceed 79 characters, tear lines must not
    exceed 25 characters and messages should not contain extended
    "internet" style signatures. No encoded text is permitted. Messages
    must be less than 200 lines, and less than 16K.

    14. Code posted should be in the public domain. No copyrighted code
    may be posted unless the copyright owner included permission for
    non-profit reproduction and use in the original code. Code posted
    without copyright claim will be regarded as in the Public Domain.

    15. Election of Moderator. Under a normal situation, if the moderator
    wishes to step aside, s/he will appoint a new moderator taking into
    account the wishes of the regular users where possible. In the
    event of a moderator ceasing to participate in the echo for a
    period of three months without prior notice being given of the
    absence, for whatever reason, then the ZEC (1:1/201) will conduct,
    or nominate a regular and senior echo participant to conduct an
    election for a new moderator.

    With kind regards,

    Gert Koefoed Andersen
    binkp.kofobbs.dk
    Moderator PASCAL
    Pascal-Net IC 115:115/0
    --- Posted by The Pascal Moderator
    * Origin: The given word from The Pascal-Net IC (2:230/150)
  • From Moderator@2:230/150 to All on Fri Jun 1 10:38:12 2018
    RULES FOR THE PASCAL ECHO - THE DETAILS (updated February 1, 2012)

    The Pascal echo is an internationally distributed FidoNet echo devoted
    to the discussion and promotion of the Pascal programming language in
    all its variations.

    MODERATOR.

    The current moderator is Gert Koefoed Andersen. I can be reached by Netmail
    at 2:230/150 or by email at gert@kofo.org - Gert_k@andersen.tdcadsl.dk.

    RULES

    1. Leave moderation to the moderator. Self appointed "echo policemen"
    only waste echo space and create ill-feeling.

    2. NO FLAMING. If you feel that you have been insulted in some way by
    somebody, you have three options.
    (a) Complain by netmail to the person concerned.
    (b) Bring the matter to the moderator's notice - again by netmail.
    (c) Ignore it. (the preferred option!)

    3. Person-person messages that are not of general interest to other
    users are STRICTLY not permitted. Netmail these types of messages.

    4. When replying to messages try to do so "off-line" and quote some of
    the message being replied to, but don't go overboard with quoting.
    Quote just enough to enable the context of the reply to be fully
    understood and in particular DO NOT INCLUDE PARTS OF THE TEAR AND
    ORIGIN LINES.

    Try reading over your reply before you commit yourself to sending
    it. Try to anticipate the first question readers will ask, and add
    the answer to your message.

    5. When replying to questions with code examples, test them where
    possible by compiling and running them (or state that you have not
    done this). If possible always quote manual references, text
    references etc.

    6. If replying to a question where you are disagreeing with the other
    person's code or statements, support your viewpoint with working
    code examples or valid text references. This will be more
    productive than unsupported statements. If you are not prepared to
    do this then don't reply in the first place!

    7. Do not ENTER or REPLY TO off-topic messages. The subject matter is
    Pascal. Discussions on religion, politics, copyright, language
    wars and personal messages are OFF-TOPIC. Any subject that is
    illegal or undesirable in a responsible conference - eg discussion
    or tips on producing viruses or how to illegally obtain access to
    information that the user is unauthorised to obtain, is off-topic.

    Sometimes messages from other conferences become linked into
    another conference due to faulty software. Replying to, or
    commenting on, such messages is off-topic.

    The main point is to use common sense. Some light hearted banter
    can relieve the formality and brighten up one's day but do not
    carry this to the length where it becomes an extended thread. The
    object of the echo is to help, get help and enjoy communicating
    with like-minded people.

    8. No "thank-you" or "no content" or "rubbish" messages. Sysops spend
    a great deal of time and money to enable the distribution of echoes
    such as this. Please respect this and avoid messages such as "Thank
    you. Just what I needed" or "I agree" etc. By observing this
    etiquette you will be helping to ensure greater participation in
    the future. If you miss a message or code for some reason, make
    your own private arrangements to get it. Repeated postings of code
    are expensive and unnecessary.

    9. All messages are to be in the English language and must be in PLAIN
    TEXT. No encoding of any kind is permissible. As the aim of the
    conference is to help, discuss and demonstrate the Pascal language,
    no .OBJ, .EXE or .COM files of any description are permitted
    REGARDLESS of how they be constructed. The echo is NOT to be
    regarded as a file transfer or exchange channel.

    10. Limited, low key, on-topic advertising is permitted, provided that
    it is authorised by the sysop of the originating BBS and by the
    Moderator BEFORE it is posted here.

    11. When seeking assistance -
    a) If Turbo Pascal is your language, place the cursor on the key
    word and call the on-line help (Ctrl-F1 in the IDE) to see if
    the answer may be there.
    b) Double check the manual to see if the answer is there.
    c) When writing the message include enough code to allow would-be
    helpers to have a chance to determine what the problem might
    be. If possible condense the problem into a tiny working
    example and post that.
    d) This is a high volume echo so use a subject line in the message
    that is likely to gain attention from the experts who are often
    too busy to read every message. "Help wanted" or similar is a
    good way to be ignored. Something like "Exec procedure not
    working" is better.
    e) Remember that a reply of "RTFM" is not considered or meant as
    an insult. In fact it is considered a polite (in spite of the
    connotations) way of reminding someone that the answer they
    seek is in the manual.
    f) Remember also that your reply may come from anyone, of possibly
    unknown skill level. Don't be too upset if misled as it is
    probably unintentional and will almost certainly be corrected
    by another reader.
    g) Many BBSs carry a file - FAQ.TXT (or similar) - which contains
    the answers to frequently asked questions.
    h) Via Pascal-Net the SWAG files get distributed every 3 months.
    Most sources placed in this area, will make it to that
    collection. Check this file if it already has your answer in
    it, as most questions have been asked and aswered before.

    12. When offering advice or help -
    a) Do so in a helpful, polite manner. Don't be condescending -
    not everybody may have your experience or skills.
    b) Refer to the page in the manual where the answer is if your
    answer is "RTFM"! Better still, avoid using "RTFM" at all.

    13. Messages should comply with the FidoNet message requirements.
    Origin lines should not exceed 79 characters, tear lines must not
    exceed 25 characters and messages should not contain extended
    "internet" style signatures. No encoded text is permitted. Messages
    must be less than 200 lines, and less than 16K.

    14. Code posted should be in the public domain. No copyrighted code
    may be posted unless the copyright owner included permission for
    non-profit reproduction and use in the original code. Code posted
    without copyright claim will be regarded as in the Public Domain.

    15. Election of Moderator. Under a normal situation, if the moderator
    wishes to step aside, s/he will appoint a new moderator taking into
    account the wishes of the regular users where possible. In the
    event of a moderator ceasing to participate in the echo for a
    period of three months without prior notice being given of the
    absence, for whatever reason, then the ZEC (1:1/201) will conduct,
    or nominate a regular and senior echo participant to conduct an
    election for a new moderator.

    With kind regards,

    Gert Koefoed Andersen
    binkp.kofobbs.dk
    Moderator PASCAL
    Pascal-Net IC 115:115/0
    --- Posted by The Pascal Moderator
    * Origin: The given word from The Pascal-Net IC (2:230/150)