Nancy wrote --

And, it being a smallish lot, it's easy enough to actually recognize
people fairly quickly.... :)

I'll often be away from my post (at the gate) checking on things, mostly
who has what and where to start making my rounds) and a car pulls up I just wave in the ones I know.
I sometimes have visitors asking where parking is for them and direct
them.
There are two main ones. The six story parking garage, which is $20, a several hundred space surface lot further away is $10. Or if they are are early enough and lucky enough there is some free on street parking.
There are other lots here and there but with streets closed, some one
way, I try to steer them away from those, unless they are familiar with the street lay out.
Such as someone saying "I went here x years ago" I'll say "Remember where such and such was?" depending on the years mentioned. There's parking there
or near there.

came up saying she didn't think they would really tow. She found out

she was wrong. Others would complain as well and find out that yes, they would
be and were towed.

Surprise, surprise.... ;0

Some people like to think they are special.

And those are the lots where the unscrupulous security person might be

scalping spaces (and pocketing the proceeds)....?

Yep.

I trust he didn't get away with it....

Not for long.
I was beginning to wonder if there was anyone here any longer, days with
no messages.
Joe
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Quoting Joe Mackey to Nancy Backus on 03-25-20 07:26 <=-

And, it being a smallish lot, it's easy enough to actually recognize
people fairly quickly.... :)

I'll often be away from my post (at the gate) checking on things,
mostly who has what and where to start making my rounds) and a car
pulls up I just wave in the ones I know.

And if you don't recognize it, you might actually have to return to your post...?

I sometimes have visitors asking where parking is for them and
direct them.
There are two main ones. The six story parking garage, which is
$20, a several hundred space surface lot further away is $10. Or if
they are early enough and lucky enough there is some free on street parking. There are other lots here and there but with streets closed,
some one way, I try to steer them away from those, unless they are familiar with the street lay out.
Such as someone saying "I went here x years ago" I'll say "Remember
where such and such was?" depending on the years mentioned. There's parking there or near there.

Alumni would have a bit better idea where things might be.... :)

came up saying she didn't think they would really tow. She found
out she was wrong. Others would complain as well and find out
that yes, they would be and were towed.

Surprise, surprise.... ;0

Some people like to think they are special.

And look where it gets them... <G>

And those are the lots where the unscrupulous security person might be scalping spaces (and pocketing the proceeds)....?

Yep.

I trust he didn't get away with it....

Not for long.

That's good. :)

I was beginning to wonder if there was anyone here any longer, days
with no messages.

I'm still here, and grabbing a packet every night, just have been behind
on the answering part of it.... and with Daryl out of commission, that
doesn't leave anyone regular except you and me... Must be time for
those lurkers to uncloak again... <G>

ttyl neb

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Nancy wrote --

And if you don't recognize it, you might actually have to return to your

post...?

Yeah, and quickly swallow whatever I'm eating. :)

I was beginning to wonder if there was anyone here any longer, days with

no messages.

I'm still here, and grabbing a packet every night, just have been behind on

the answering part of it.... and with Daryl out of commission, that doesn't leave anyone regular except you and me... Must be time for those lurkers to uncloak again... <G>

Yep, without Daryl is is awfully quiet.
I get e-mails from him and he's having some problems with his board but noting major. He's working on that. But then he's concerned about storms
and all so no doing much about it currently.
One would think with people being urged to stay home they would spend
more time on the boards. :)
As for the above I fall under first responder and public safety and so
am an essential and still working. My concern is for those thrown out of
work.
Joe
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Re: Re: game permits
By: JOE MACKEY to NANCY BACKUS on Tue Mar 31 2020 06:33:28

One would think with people being urged to stay home
they would spend more time on the boards. :)

for most people in today's world, the "boards" are live streams or multiplayer interactive games... i've been watching several of my favorite streamers playing games or "just chatting" on twitch.tv while working on things in the background...

basically, streamers are like TV channels with some interaction with the audience... audience members type stuff in the chat window and the streamer may
read it and respond verbally... a lot of chat is between audience members, too... pretty much anything the streamer can see/do on their machine can be streamed to everyone watching their stream... sometimes one may catch old TV shows (eg: original Doctor Who) being streamed...


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Mark wrote --

One would think with people being urged to stay home
they would spend more time on the boards. :)

for most people in today's world, the "boards" are live streams or

multiplayer interactive games...

I was thinking more of the those in the echoes here.
I don't think many youngsters today even know (or care) what a bbs board
is. :/
Joe


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Re: Re: game permits
By: JOE MACKEY to MARK LEWIS on Wed Apr 01 2020 05:54:06

One would think with people being urged to stay home
they would spend more time on the boards. :)

for most people in today's world, the "boards" are live

streams or multiplayer interactive games...

I was thinking more of the those in the echoes here.

we're a pretty small group, these days...

I don't think many youngsters today even know
(or care) what a bbs board is. :/

you're probably right about that... i think you'd also be surprised at how many
of us "oldsters" are gamers, too... i mean, i remember laughing at the idea that anyone could make a living playing video games yet here we are today with many doing just that as their full time job...

i'm even doing what i can to try to save a couple of $$$ each time i get some so i can maybe get a better GPU (Graphic Processing Unit aka video card) so i can stream my (rarely broadcast) content better and possibly i can also start to make some $$$ from others watching my content and being a part of my community... i really have to work on verbalizing more, though... no one wants to watch someone play a game or do any programming without saying a word about what they are doing something or making certain decisions for the flow to follow a certain path... all my life i've had to work at not saying everything that comes into my head and now that's what needs to be done :lol:


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Mark wrote --

i remember laughing at the idea that anyone could make a living playing video

games yet here we are today with many doing just that as their full time job...

As Mark Twain wrote, paraphrasing, if someone does what they like for a living they will never work a day in their life.
I felt that way in parking. To me I was getting paid to play.
Of course there were days when the weather was nasty I wondered about my career choice. :)

all my life i've had to work at not saying everything
that comes into my head and now that's what needs to be done :lol:

I know how that goes. ==sigh== :)
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Quoting Joe Mackey to Nancy Backus on 03-31-20 06:33 <=-

And if you don't recognize it, you might actually have to return to
your post...?

Yeah, and quickly swallow whatever I'm eating. :)

So as to be able to talk semi-intelligibly, eh....? ;)

I was beginning to wonder if there was anyone here any longer,
days with no messages.

I'm still here, and grabbing a packet every night, just have been
behind on the answering part of it.... and with Daryl out of
commission, that doesn't leave anyone regular except you and me...
Must be time for those lurkers to uncloak again... <G>

Yep, without Daryl is is awfully quiet.
I get e-mails from him and he's having some problems with his board
but nothing major. He's working on that. But then he's concerned
about storms and all so not doing much about it currently.

That sounds somewhat normal for him, this time of year....

One would think with people being urged to stay home they would
spend more time on the boards. :)

Except that they probably are spending more time on the phone... <G>

As for the above I fall under first responder and public safety and
so am an essential and still working. My concern is for those thrown
out of work.

Is the University shut down, too...? Or are they also doing all the
classroom stuff online now...?

ttyl neb

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Quoting Mark Lewis to Joe Mackey on 03-31-20 09:20 <=-

Re: Re: game permits
By: JOE MACKEY to NANCY BACKUS on Tue Mar 31 2020 06:33:28

One would think with people being urged to stay home
they would spend more time on the boards. :)

for most people in today's world, the "boards" are live streams or multiplayer interactive games... i've been watching several of my
favorite streamers playing games or "just chatting" on twitch.tv while working on things in the background...

More technology to keep people occupied, I see.... I'm reminded of the
tagline below..... ;)

basically, streamers are like TV channels with some interaction with
the audience... audience members type stuff in the chat window and the streamer may read it and respond verbally... a lot of chat is between audience members, too... pretty much anything the streamer can see/do
on their machine can be streamed to everyone watching their stream... sometimes one may catch old TV shows (eg: original Doctor Who) being streamed...

Internet on steroids...? ;)

ttyl neb

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Nancy wrote --

Yeah, and quickly swallow whatever I'm eating. :)

So as to be able to talk semi-intelligibly, eh....? ;)

Yeah about the way I usually talk, semi-intelligibly. :)
When I make my rounds checking out who has what and putting that in the
order I want to hit that table, I will limit myself to only something that is bite size.
It never failed early on nothing would be going but the minute I took a
bite of something someone drove up, had a question, etc. :)
I stay till half time and once the game starts I can make my rounds and
pile up the plate. :)
A lot of the tailgaters have people who don't go to the game, but hang
around keeping an eye on the food, grills, etc. Some people pack everything and put it away in their cars. Those are the ones I hit early.
I have my HQ at a tent near the gate where I can keep an eye on it and
eat there.
Its strange. Almost all the time the tailgaters will have the same
things: hamburgers one week, chili another, etc. I jokingly ask if they have meetings to plan their menu's. :)

Is the University shut down, too...? Or are they also doing all the classroom stuff online now...?

Yes to both.
The university shut down almost a month ago, a week before spring break,
so the students got two weeks instead of one. After break everything was on line.
The week before break all was set up by IT and during spring break instructors were taught how to use the system. (Students learned on line).
Some instructors like it, since they don't have to dress and leave home. Some dislike it saying there could be students without net access, or pc/laptop/tablet/phone.
I remind them this is 2020 not 1990 and being online all the time the students probably know more about this then the faculty (in general, not that one person).
I often get a distasteful look from faulty when I mention the kids
probably know more than they do about this stuff.
Some things there are able to be done remotely from home so things are
still getting done on the general business end. A lot of things were done online before this, such as registration, tuition payments, etc.
I've asked faculty how finals will be handled. No idea.
It could be the students will receive as their final grade whatever they
had before this.
Joe
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Quoting Joe Mackey to Nancy Backus on 04-07-20 06:38 <=-

Yeah, and quickly swallow whatever I'm eating. :)

So as to be able to talk semi-intelligibly, eh....? ;)

Yeah about the way I usually talk, semi-intelligibly. :)

Much better than unintelligibly... ;)

When I make my rounds checking out who has what and putting that in
the order I want to hit that table, I will limit myself to only
something that is bite size.
It never failed early on nothing would be going but the minute I
took a bite of something someone drove up, had a question, etc. :)

One of the variations of Murphy's Laws... ;) Similar to the waitress
always comes by to ask how your meal is when you've just put a mouthful
in... ;)

I stay till half time and once the game starts I can make my rounds
and pile up the plate. :)

And by then, the tailgaters are mostly disposing of what would be
leftovers anyway, so you are merely doing them a favor.... :)

A lot of the tailgaters have people who don't go to the game, but
hang around keeping an eye on the food, grills, etc. Some people pack everything and put it away in their cars. Those are the ones I hit
early. I have my HQ at a tent near the gate where I can keep an eye
on it and eat there.

You have a working system, obviously.... ;)

Its strange. Almost all the time the tailgaters will have the same things: hamburgers one week, chili another, etc. I jokingly ask if
they have meetings to plan their menu's. :)

If they are all regulars, they've probably long since learned what each
other is planning to bring each week... :)

Is the University shut down, too...? Or are they also doing all the classroom stuff online now...?

Yes to both.
The university shut down almost a month ago, a week before spring
break, so the students got two weeks instead of one. After break everything was on line.

Sounds like they'd done a bit of advance thinking/planning... saw the
writing on the wall and took heed... :)

The week before break all was set up by IT and during spring break instructors were taught how to use the system. (Students learned on line). Some instructors like it, since they don't have to dress
and leave home. Some dislike it saying there could be students without net access, or pc/laptop/tablet/phone.
I remind them this is 2020 not 1990 and being online all the time
the students probably know more about this then the faculty (in
general, not that one person).

There is at least a slim chance that some students might not have the
full resources needed, but since nowadays generally comupters are pretty ubiquitous on campus, and a needed accessory, not all that likely..
plus, as you say, the kids probably learned it all before even getting
to college.... ;)

I got a letter from the school in the Philly area at which I spent most
of my high school years... they mobilized their resources such that,
when the schools were declared closed, within 15 minutes they were able
to distribute Chromebooks to the middle and high schoolers, along with assignments... and they had packets of schoolwork to send home with the elementary students... Had the students all on the buses for home at
3pm... They took a couple of days (Friday and Monday, IIRC) to get their
online teaching in place, and then it was back to school for them all,
just done online.... pretty amazing... :)

I often get a distasteful look from faculty when I mention the kids probably know more than they do about this stuff.

It's only true... :) Today's kids were practically weaned on
electronics of one sort or another... even my son (now in his mid40s)
was doing computer stuff in 7th and 8th grade... writing programs in
BASIC, for instance...

Some things there are able to be done remotely from home so things
are still getting done on the general business end. A lot of things
were done online before this, such as registration, tuition payments,
etc.

So there wouldn't be a lot of disruption there... and the staff could
work from home, as long as they have the proper tools there.... :)

I've asked faculty how finals will be handled. No idea.
It could be the students will receive as their final grade whatever
they had before this.

I'd heard that there were provisions for doing tests and such online...
one would just have to make them open book tests, and on the honor
system that the students aren't working together... or plan it so it IS
a group project.... Or maybe it will become a pass/fail instead of a letter/numeric grade.... I'm sure that at this point in time, the tech
is such that there could be individual papers/tests handed in to the
teacher via the internet, though...

ttyl neb

... I can't really argue with that although I know someone who will.

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Nancy wrote --

One of the variations of Murphy's Laws... ;) Similar to the waitress
always comes by to ask how your meal is when you've just put a mouthful
in... ;)

Ain't that the truth!
Every time. Every time!

And by then, the tailgaters are mostly disposing of what would be
leftovers anyway, so you are merely doing them a favor.... :)

I do it as a service.
After all, as I always say, someone has planned the menu, bought the
food, prepared it with love and care, and brought it to offer to others. If its
not eaten the cook/host feelings will be hurt. So I eat to spare them this. :)
Besides, there's a little voice in my head from my childhood of all the
poor starving children in Germany, Japan and Korea. :)
(Never have understood how my eating helps them).

The university shut down almost a month ago, a week before spring
break, so the students got two weeks instead of one. After break everything was on line.

Sounds like they'd done a bit of advance thinking/planning... saw the
writing on the wall and took heed... :)

I can see in less than 20 years for students in liberal arts, will seldom
see a campus and a lot of buildings will be redundant.
Some classes will need to be on campus such as chemistry, and other
hands-on classes. But for things like history, English, etc will be on line.

There is at least a slim chance that some students might not have the
full resources needed

I would imagine the odds of that today is pretty slim.
If they can spend time on their smartphones checking their social media accounts every two minutes, they can have access to learning.

when the schools were declared closed, within 15 minutes they were able
to distribute Chromebooks to the middle and high schoolers,

Marshall has free (well, paid for somewhere in fees I'm sure) tablets for
all students, that are assigned at the start of the semester.
I think, don't quote me, even for those who already have one.

I'd heard that there were provisions for doing tests and such online...
one would just have to make them open book tests,

To me an open book test doesn't test if the student knows the answer but
how to look up the answer.
Joe
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On 14 Apr 2020, JOE MACKEY said the following...

To me an open book test doesn't test if the student knows the answer
but how to look up the answer.

Which can be a very important skill. When my new folks finish their week of training the certification test is open book. I tell the new employees that I don't expect them to know 90% of the answers after just a few days but that I do expect them to know where to find those answers.

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Hello JOE!

** 14.04.20 - 06:07, JOE MACKEY wrote to NANCY BACKUS:

If its not eaten the cook/host feelings will be hurt. So I eat to spare
them this. :)
Besides, there's a little voice in my head from my childhood of all the
poor starving children in Germany, Japan and Korea. :)
(Never have understood how my eating helps them).

You are not eating *for* them or to help *them*. Your eating is a lesson
of privilege, good fortune, humility and possibly humbleness? Then, hopefully down the line it would create a person who would share their
good fortune or meal with others. Just saying..

I can see in less than 20 years for students in liberal arts, will
seldom see a campus and a lot of buildings will be redundant.
Some classes will need to be on campus such as chemistry, and other
hands-on classes. But for things like history, English, etc will be on
line.

In the liberal arts, actual "Art" would still need a building: painting, sculture, etc..

Same thing with medicine. They would still need labs.

Same thing with the natural sciences category (physics, chemistry, astronomy): they would still need buildings for labs.

So.. even if some of the other things like math, english.. may not need buildings, they make up a small portion.

I'd heard that there were provisions for doing tests and such online...
one would just have to make them open book tests,

To me an open book test doesn't test if the student knows the answer but
how to look up the answer.

How to "look up" could be a fine skill to have! Or.. it could be a lesson
of integrity thrown in there.


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Quoting Joe Mackey to Nancy Backus on 04-14-20 06:07 <=-

One of the variations of Murphy's Laws... ;) Similar to the waitress
always comes by to ask how your meal is when you've just put a mouthful in... ;)

Ain't that the truth!
Every time. Every time!

And one is reduced to merely nodding one's head... and maybe an
unintelligble mumble.... ;)

And by then, the tailgaters are mostly disposing of what would be
leftovers anyway, so you are merely doing them a favor.... :)

I do it as a service.
After all, as I always say, someone has planned the menu, bought the
food, prepared it with love and care, and brought it to offer to
others. If its not eaten the cook/host feelings will be hurt. So I
eat to spare them this. :)

One certainly should show appreciation for all that hard work and
planning, for sure... :)

Besides, there's a little voice in my head from my childhood of all
the poor starving children in Germany, Japan and Korea. :)
(Never have understood how my eating helps them).

Maybe by not wasting food, one will have extra funds to send to provide
food for them...? ;) (and I remember it as the poor starving children
in Africa and China... ;) ) I'm sure the intent was to try to guilt us
into being grateful for what we had....

The university shut down almost a month ago, a week before spring break, so the students got two weeks instead of one. After break everything was on line.

Sounds like they'd done a bit of advance thinking/planning... saw the writing on the wall and took heed... :)

I can see in less than 20 years for students in liberal arts, will
seldom see a campus and a lot of buildings will be redundant.

20 years ago, some classes/degrees were mostly online already... Library Science, which was morphing into Information Services at the time, could
be done online almost entirely, should one wish to...

Some classes will need to be on campus such as chemistry, and other hands-on classes. But for things like history, English, etc will be
on line.

Distance learning already happens in most fields... supplemented by the
labs and such on campus... Even history and English and other liberal
arts benefit from having at least some of the discussions and
interactions in person....

There is at least a slim chance that some students might not have the
full resources needed

I would imagine the odds of that today is pretty slim.
If they can spend time on their smartphones checking their social
media accounts every two minutes, they can have access to learning.

Not everyone has a smartphone, even of the younger set.... but
admittedly, it is becoming less and less likely that there'd be no
online access at all...

when the schools were declared closed, within 15 minutes they were able
to distribute Chromebooks to the middle and high schoolers,

Marshall has free (well, paid for somewhere in fees I'm sure)
tablets for all students, that are assigned at the start of the
semester. I think, don't quote me, even for those who already have
one.

If what they are doing is trying to standardize what the kids are using,
that does make sense... In times past, the student would have to
purchase it, just like getting the books for all the courses... probably
had some sort of discount from the manufacturer passed along to the
students...

I'd heard that there were provisions for doing tests and such online...
one would just have to make them open book tests,

To me an open book test doesn't test if the student knows the answer
but how to look up the answer.

The student would have to know at least the basic idea of the answer to
be able to look it up in any sort of reasonable time... And some things, knowing how to look it up is also a good thing... Even back when I was
in college, certain exams were always open book... knowing how to use
the info looked up was part of what was being tested.... One still
needed to make the right calculations, and know which equation(s)
applied to the problem (and this was in the science and math courses)...

ttyl neb

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