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    From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Dan Clough on Tue Apr 16 07:43:10 2024
    An AR-15 is *NOT* a military weapon, and never has been.

    You obviously don't know your weapons history. Even I, a Swede, know that the AR-15 was used in Vietnam by the thousands.

    (from Wikipedia)

    In January 1963, Secretary McNamara received reports that M14 production was insufficient to meet the needs of the armed forces and ordered a halt to M14 production. At the time, the AR-15 was the only rifle that could fulfill a requirement of a "universal" infantry weapon for issue to all services. McNamara ordered its adoption.



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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to All on Tue Apr 16 07:43:10 2024
    An AR-15 is *NOT* a military weapon, and never has been.

    You obviously don't know your weapons history. Even I, a
    Swede, know that the AR-15 was used in Vietnam by the thousands.

    You're wrong. Those rifles were AR-15 *style* rifles. Not
    AR-15's. When the military adopted that *style* of rifle, it was designated the M-16.

    The NRA is incorrect. The AR-15 was designed, and used, as
    a military weapon. Bj”rn cited Wikipedia for a very incomplete
    and shortened history of the AR-15. The AR-15 used in the
    military was *not* an AR-15 style rifle, as the NRA would like
    folks to believe.

    Here is the complete history of the AK-15, which soundly refutes
    the made-up story concocted by the NRA about the weapon.

    https://smallwarsjournal.com/jrnl/art/the-complete-history-of-
    the-ar-15-rifle

    (from Wikipedia)

    In January 1963, Secretary McNamara received reports that M14
    production was insufficient to meet the needs of the armed forces
    and ordered a halt to M14 production. At the time, the AR-15 was
    the only rifle that could fulfill a requirement of a "universal"
    infantry weapon for issue to all services. McNamara ordered its
    adoption.

    That's misleading. Try reading more here:

    That is *not* misleading, although it is incomplete due to shortened
    length.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AR-15_style_rifle#Comparison_to_military_versions

    I don't know how I can make it any more simple, so that you can
    understand it. An AR-15 rifle is a *civilian* firearm and is not
    used by *ANY* military.

    There are many AR-15 style rifles. None of them being the AR-15
    that was designed, tested, and used by the US military.

    The NRA does not want anybody to know that. Now they're busted.

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Björn Felten on Tue Apr 16 07:43:10 2024
    Hello Bj”rn,

    An AR-15 is *NOT* a military weapon, and never has been.

    You obviously don't know your weapons history. Even I, a Swede, know that the AR-15 was used in Vietnam by the thousands.

    Some gun nuts only listen to the NRA, which tells them only
    what they want to know. Not that any of what the NRA says or
    publishes is accurate, or even makes sense. Be that as it
    may, here is the complete history of the AR-15 that is beyond
    dispute -

    https://smallwarsjournal.com/jrnl/art/the-complete-history-of-
    the-ar-15-rifle

    (from Wikipedia)

    In January 1963, Secretary McNamara received reports that M14 production was
    insufficient to meet the needs of the armed forces and ordered a halt to M14 production. At the time, the AR-15 was the only rifle that could fulfill a requirement of a "universal" infantry weapon for issue to all services. McNamara ordered its adoption.

    Now you done it! You questioned the NRA! Now prepare for a
    rebuttal. By Wikepidea (written by the NRA).

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to All on Tue Apr 16 07:43:10 2024
    By the way, AR-15's are not used in war. By anybody.

    Ah, but they were. I carried one (but didn't fire it) when I was
    at Da Nang in 1965

    No, you didn't. Your memory is getting fuzzy.

    You carried either an M-14 or an M-16.

    An AR-15 is *NOT* a military weapon, and never has been. It also
    is *NOT* the same thing as an M14/M16. I would hope that you know
    the differences, and I'm wondering why you apparently do not.

    Yes, he did. And many others did, too.

    Complete history of the AR-15 rifle -

    https://smallwarsjournal.com/jrnl/art/the-complete-history-of-
    the-ar-15-rifle

    --Lee

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