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  • Ten Years Ago

    From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to All on Tue Apr 16 07:43:10 2024
    Hello Everybody,

    Ten years ago (12 June 2009) U.S. television stations
    ended analog broadcasts in favor of digital transmission.
    When will FidoNet sysops decide to end IPv4 in favor of
    IPv6 as their standard?

    --Lee

    --
    Our Nuts, Your Mouth

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  • From David Drummond@3:640/305 to Lee Lofaso on Tue Apr 16 07:43:10 2024
    On 13/06/2019 13:31, Lee Lofaso -> All wrote:
    Hello Everybody,

    Ten years ago (12 June 2009) U.S. television stations
    ended analog broadcasts in favor of digital transmission.
    When will FidoNet sysops decide to end IPv4 in favor of
    IPv6 as their standard?

    It won't be before IP6 is available to everyone.

    --

    Gang warily
    David

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Nick Andre on Tue Apr 16 07:43:10 2024
    Hello Nick,

    Ten years ago (12 June 2009) U.S. television stations
    ended analog broadcasts in favor of digital transmission.
    When will FidoNet sysops decide to end IPv4 in favor of
    IPv6 as their standard?

    Oh wise one, please entertain and enlighten all of us as to how any of this
    has to do with the nodelist.

    Michiel van der Vlist expained it all to us a good while back -
    in the Fidonews. Basically, IPv4 is a dinosaur, and its days are
    done. IPv6 is the new kid on the block, with everyone jumping
    on board. At some point, nobody will have a choice, as IPv6
    will be the only game in town.

    That is what this has to do with the nodelist.

    Being a conscientious wannabe sysop, I plan to fully heed
    Michiel's advice by going whole hog with IPv6. The only question
    is when ...

    --Lee

    --
    We Make Your Wet Dreams Come True

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Dale Shipp on Tue Apr 16 07:43:10 2024
    Hello Dale,

    Ten years ago (12 June 2009) U.S. television stations
    ended analog broadcasts in favor of digital transmission.
    When will FidoNet sysops decide to end IPv4 in favor of
    IPv6 as their standard?

    So far as I know, the decision is not up to me, but to my ISP.

    Publishers will be forced to go to IPv6 in the near future.
    In which case you will have no choice.
    Unless you want to use your system as a boat anchor.

    .. Shipwrecked on Hesperus in Columbia, Maryland. 02:46:48, 14 Jun 2019

    At least you are on land rather than water ...

    --Lee

    --
    I Take A Sheet In The Pool

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Tony Langdon on Tue Apr 16 07:43:10 2024
    Hello Tony,

    On Saturday June 15 2019 11:24, you wrote:

    I don't have one of those nowadays, though sometimes, I'm tempted to
    put up a modem on VoIP as an experiment. But I seriously doubt it
    will get any callers.

    When I ran Irex in combination with InterMail, I had a POTS modem connected to the VOIP port of the Motorrola surfboard cable modem provided by my ISP. It worked but milage varied. I usually got around 20K with and occasional 24K and sometimes dropping to 2400 Bps. Other than the few I provoked for testing I didn't get any incoming calls for a period of five years and so when I converted my system from Frodo style to BSO, I didn't bother to reinstall the POTS stuff. That was about ten years ago. Since then I am IP only. I don't miss POTS.


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Dale Shipp on Tue Apr 16 07:43:10 2024
    Hello Dale,

    On Saturday June 15 2019 02:58, you wrote to Tony Langdon:

    You can always get a tunnel, which is independent of your ISP, or
    switch ISPs, if netive IPv6 is important to you (and someone in
    your area offers it).

    My real question is why should I?

    How about exploring new technology? What happened to that pioneer spirit that made Fidonet such a great a success?

    At the moment I can do anything I want to do using what my ISP
    provides, which is IPv4.

    It will not last forever. How about avoiding surprises and get yourself familiar with the new technology so that when you find your IPv4 behind CGNAT, you don't have to panic?

    How about fixing the roof when the sun is still shining?


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Fabio Bizzi on Tue Apr 16 07:43:10 2024
    Hello Fabio,

    On Sunday June 16 2019 15:31, you wrote to me:

    reserved range. 10.0.0.0/8, 172.16.0.0/12, 192.168.0.0/16 or
    100.64.0.0/10.

    The last class 100.64.0.0/10 is reserved for the internal connections (like p2p) of the provider's devices and it shoudn't be used for the customer's network (like for the end user ip address, neither for the
    nat of this one)

    I deliberately wrote "reserved range" instead of "private range". The range 100.64.0.0/10 (RFC6598) should indeed not be used for local adresses in the customers network. (RFC1918) But they ARE used as addresses handed out to CPE'. On my 3G internet dongle I often get an RFC1918 address. Using RFC6598 addresses for the WAN address in the CPE avoids conflicts with RFC1918 addresses in the LAN part of the CPE.


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Michiel van der Vlist on Tue Apr 16 07:43:10 2024
    On 2019 Jun 16 11:25:48, you wrote to Dale Shipp:

    When ISP's run out of IPv4 addresses, they can revert to CGNAT to
    share one public address among many subscribers. Those subscribers no longer get a public address, but an address in a reserved range. 10.0.0.0/8, 172.16.0.0/12, 192.168.0.0/16 or 100.64.0.0/10.

    If your ISP does that to you, you no longer can run servers.

    that is wrong... you can still run servers... you just have a limited audience... the type of address you have has absolutely no bearing on whether you can run servers or not...

    )\/(ark

    Always Mount a Scratch Monkey
    Do you manage your own servers? If you are not running an IDS/IPS yer doin' it wrong...
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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to mark lewis on Tue Apr 16 07:43:10 2024
    Hello mark,

    On Sunday June 16 2019 10:14, you wrote to me:

    reserved range. 10.0.0.0/8, 172.16.0.0/12, 192.168.0.0/16 or
    100.64.0.0/10.

    If your ISP does that to you, you no longer can run servers.

    that is wrong... you can still run servers... you just have a limited audience... the type of address you have has absolutely no bearing on whether you can run servers or not...

    Yeah, ok mr Knowitall, I was totally wrong and you are totally absolutely right. Yes, one can run a server. Even without any Internet connection. When your ISP puts you on CGNAT I hope you enjoy running a server that no one outside your LAN can reach. Good luck.


    Cheers, Michiel

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