Once upon a time Fidonet sysops were "computer enthusiasts". Now theyhave
turned into "point and click"ers.
Everyone has to start somewhere. I've been working in the IT industry all my
life, and have programmed in everything from Assembler to C++ to Javascript
and
beyond. That doesn't mean that I can just sit down in front of any software
package and be an expert in it within minutes. Especially one that is not documented, or the documentation is hidden/horrendously out of date.
Many folks I know who are getting back into BBSing are doing it because they
want to tinker again -- homelabbers are popping up everywhere. But they all
need guidance. Someone to help them, not criticize everything they do. They
want and are looking for a community - not some rigid, unchanging, "Well wait
10 years and MAYBE we'll think about it" hierarchy.
Once upon a time Fidonet sysops were "computer enthusiasts". Now they have
turned into "point and click"ers.
The problem I noted when Windows came out was that it allowed people that shouldn't be allowed to be in the same room with a computer to use them - sort of
Maybe I should start publishing the magazine at fidonews.mine.nu
or news.fidonet.fi
I think Fidonews should be published whenever there is some actual
content to read, then people would actually read it.
Have you considered submitting an article?
When I have something close to being interesting to anyone to read I will consider it.
they haveOnce upon a time Fidonet sysops were "computer enthusiasts". Now
turned into "point and click"ers.
The problem I noted when Windows came out was that it allowed people that shouldn't be allowed to be in the same room with a computer to use them - sort of
I'll likely end up having to work for a long, long time.
Nobody should have to work. Ever.
In my view, everything ought to be free. That way, we would
all have the leisure to do whatever want, if and whenever we want.
Nobody would be forced to do a thing for anybody else, as that
would be a form of slavery or indentured servitude.
how is someone going to find out about the stats echo in the first
place? catch-22...
Not really.
1) Hook up to a JamNNTPd based BBS nearby.
2) Spend some time reading up on the echoes sounding relevant. And yes, I know that not all "moderators" are all too eager to name "their" echoes well. Their loss...
3) Register on said JamNNTPd based BBS and start asking questions.
The rest is a walk in the park, far from Catch-22.
Been there. Done that. But no STATS echo found.
Oh. There it is. Do I have to add it first before
I can read it?
The rest is a walk in the park, far from Catch-22.
you start with a double catch-22...
1. newbies to fidonet won't even know what a JAMNNTPd server/BBS
is...
2. where are they going to find these JAMNNTPd systems...
Do they need to know? Is it essential to know this to obtain a node number
and get connected to Fidonet? I think not.
 By: Tommi Koivula to mark lewis on Sun Mar 10 2019 08:36 pm
Read fidonews. The file, you know. :-D
fidonews.org - the first thing it shows me is newsletters from 1999.
Real helpful.
By: Tommi Koivula to mark lewis on Sun Mar 10 2019 08:36 pm >>
Read fidonews. The file, you know. :-D
fidonews.org - the first thing it shows me is newsletters from 1999. >>
Real helpful.
Indeed.
Maybe I should start publishing the magazine at fidonews.mine.nu or news.fidonet.fi
Kurt Weiske wrote to Dan Clough <=-
Very good point. Most Othernets that I've seen publish (usually
weekly) an "infopack.zip" or similar. It contains *GOOD*
instructions on how to apply for a node number (including *WHO* to
apply to!), a list of echos, a recent nodelist, and more. Really
very helpful in getting setup for a new network, regardless of previous/current Fido experience.
Contrast with Fidonet - "Find a regional coordinator, set up your
system with a /9999 address, poll them, and wait an indeterminate
time for instructions..."
"You want a list of echoes? Google Fidonet echoes, and hopefully
you'll find the updated web page."
Now, I'm liking the idea of a Fidonet infopack with as much
timely information as we can muster and clear instructions.
Maybe I should start publishing the magazine at fidonews.mine.nuor news.fidonet.fi
I think Fidonews should be published whenever there is some actual
content to read, then people would actually read it.
I think Fidonews should be published whenever there is some actual content
to read, then people would actually read it.
Indeed. Nowadays there's nothing much than all the same shit week by
week posted by a robot. Plan to support the current form of fidonews withdrawn.
Contrast with Fidonet - "Find a regional coordinator, set up your
system with a /9999 address, poll them, and wait an indeterminate
time for instructions..."
Careful, that's a little too clear and concise. I don't think we
should tell a n00b to use /9999, they should have to figure that
out for themselves, like our Grandpas did... :
On 11/03/2019 16:30, Joacim Melin -> Tommi Koivula wrote:
Maybe I should start publishing the magazine at fidonews.mine.nu
or news.fidonet.fi
I think Fidonews should be published whenever there is some actual
content to read, then people would actually read it.
Have you considered submitting an article?
David Drummond wrote to Dan Clough <=-
Contrast with Fidonet - "Find a regional coordinator, set up your
system with a /9999 address, poll them, and wait an indeterminate
time for instructions..."
Careful, that's a little too clear and concise. I don't think we
should tell a n00b to use /9999, they should have to figure that
out for themselves, like our Grandpas did... :
Could it be that Grandpa managed to read the Fidonet Policy which documented that procedure?
Once upon a time Fidonet sysops were "computer enthusiasts". Now they have turned into "point and click"ers.
On 2019 Mar 10 18:31:48, you wrote to me:
how is someone going to find out about the stats echo in the first
place? catch-22...
Not really.
yes, really...
1) Hook up to a JamNNTPd based BBS nearby.
how? how can yo find them? catch-22 from the start...
2) Spend some time reading up on the echoes sounding relevant. And
yes,
I know that not all "moderators" are all too eager to name "their" echoes
well. Their loss...
3) Register on said JamNNTPd based BBS and start asking questions.
The rest is a walk in the park, far from Catch-22.
you start with a double catch-22...
1. newbies to fidonet won't even know what a JAMNNTPd server/BBS
is...
2. where are they going to find these JAMNNTPd systems...
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