From your point of view, is the Wagner Group worse than Russian army
and why? Both are paid military?
That did not faze Mad Vlad.
He knows how to do things right.
Which is why he hired The Wagner Group.
From your point of view, is the Wagner Group worse than Russian army
and why? Both are paid military?
The idea of sending as many badly trained and badly armed men as
possible at the other side is not a winning tactic. And yet, it is
still done in today's modern world.
So who is to blame? Those who give the orders, or those who
follow the orders?
They voted for their own death.
Was Oskar Dirlewanger's group worse than Wehrmacht? :)
Founder of Wagner Group is neo-nazi himself, btw.
Fascists are those who tell other people how they must live, according
their idee fixe, using violence as a tool. Exactly these people came
to Kiev in 2014 and then from Kiev to Russian Donbass and started
these hell of violence.
The only thing why the West calls them "the fighters for democratic values" is their Hitler style hatred of Russia. That's why they
desecrate the memorials of those who fought Hitler.
Even totalitarian Putin or Wagers fighters don't use such methods.
Fascists are those who tell other people how they must live, according
their idee fixe, using violence as a tool.
Exactly these people came to Kiev in 2014 and then from Kiev to Russian Donbass and started these hell of violence.
The only thing why the West calls them "the fighters for democratic
values" is their Hitler style hatred of Russia. That's why they
desecrate the memorials of those who fought Hitler.
Even totalitarian Putin or Wagers fighters don't use such methods.
Fascists are those who tell other people how they must live, according their idee fixe, using violence as a tool. Exactly these people came to Kiev in 2014 and then from Kiev to Russian Donbass and started these
hell of violence.
This is how Russia is living at this moment.
Nobody in Russia tells me how I must live. I have limited freedoms, it
is true, but it is another matter. Don't mix fascism and
totalitarism. Lukashenko is another good example. Whatever
totalitarian he is he is not a fascist.
Violence started when Russia used it forces to take of Crimea.
At Putin lied in front of the cameras "this is not our army".
One lie makes many(c).
Violence had been stops by Russia in Crimea, which certainly would
It was possible to stop USSR expansion to Europe, give people
freedom, stop Cold war. But USSR decided to occupy them, started
mass repressions and moved them into the delusional way of
building communism (which now is a joke even in modern Russia).
Now it's time to pay the price. Nothing comes for free(c). Do
you know that? :)
Common fallen Soviet soldiers who fought Hitler could be considered by
enemy only by neo-Nazy -- no other variants can be. They died and
gave for that victory the utmost price. The memorials are for them,
(Soviet Ukrainians soldiers also among them), not for their ancestors.
The will do anything to keep their power. It's well known how
Russian stated payed to neo-nazis in Europe and invited them to
Saint Petersburg. At the same time talking about danger of the
Fascism.
I know that many people have different opinions who should be called a
Nazi or a fascist. But in Russian there is no question about it.
Ukrainian fascists dislodged a lawful President, they trampled the
Of course they think so. There is a simple test for true Russians --
if somebody desecrate the memory and memorials of the fallen Soviet
army soldiers they must be called a fucking Nazi. No other propaganda
PS: Protasov is not a Russian. He has no nationality.
Nobody went to Kiev in 2014. The people of Kiev wanted, and got
change.
You know little -- numerous groups of nationalistic militants (they form
now Azov nationalistic units) had been carried in Kiev from western
Ukraine. They were the main force of the coup.
The only thing why the West calls them "the fighters for
democratic values" is their Hitler style hatred of Russia. That's
why they desecrate the memorials of those who fought Hitler.
The people of Ukraine are indeed fighting for their freedom and
democracy.
But they trampled those who were not agree with them. Democracy had been trampled in the most impudent and outrageous way.
They were attacked by a fascist government in Russia and seem to
have the support of the Russian people, not entirely but a large
number of Russian people seem to think that "Putin must be right to
attack the people of Ukraine.
Of course they think so. There is a simple test for true Russians -- if somebody desecrate the memory and memorials of the fallen Soviet army soldiers they must be called a fucking Nazi. No other propaganda from
Putin's side is needed to persuade them in the opposite view, and make
them to have a smallest sympathy for the Ukrainians (and other nations)
who do such things.
PS: Protasov is not a Russian. He has no nationality.
Fascists are those who tell other people how they must live, according
their idee fixe, using violence as a tool. Exactly these people came to
Kiev in 2014 and then from Kiev to Russian Donbass and started these
hell of violence.
Fascism is a form of government where a political group will rise to power through elections and then abolish elections as they are not needed anymore
because the group in power has nothing but the best intentions, or so they claim.
The biggest fascist countries at the moment are:
* North Korea
* The People's Republic of China
* Russia
Hey, all one way or the other tie in to communism ...
This is how Russia is living at this moment.
Nobody in Russia tells me how I must live. I have limited freedoms, it
is true, but it is another matter. Don't mix fascism and totalitarism. Lukashenko is another good example. Whatever totalitarian he is he is
not a fascist.
to Kiev in 2014 and then from Kiev to Russian Donbass and started
these hell of violence.
Violence started when Russia used it forces to take of Crimea. At
Putin lied in front of the cameras "this is not our army". One lie
makes many(c).
Violence had been stops by Russia in Crimea, which certainly would have followed a Donbass scenario in other case. So your statement is a lie.
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desecrate the memorials of those who fought Hitler.
It was possible to stop USSR expansion to Europe, give people
freedom, stop Cold war. But USSR decided to occupy them, started
mass repressions and moved them into the delusional way of building
communism (which now is a joke even in modern Russia). Now it's
time to pay the price. Nothing comes for free(c). Do you know
that? :)
Common fallen Soviet soldiers who fought Hitler could be considered by enemy only by neo-Nazy -- no other variants can be. They died and gave
for that victory the utmost price. The memorials are for them, (Soviet Ukrainians soldiers also among them), not for their ancestors.
Even totalitarian Putin or Wagers fighters don't use such methods.
The will do anything to keep their power. It's well known how
Russian stated payed to neo-nazis in Europe and invited them to
Saint Petersburg. At the same time talking about danger of the
Fascism.
I know that many people have different opinions who should be called a Nazi or a fascist. But in Russian there is no question about it.
Fascists are those who tell other people how they must live,
according their idee fixe, using violence as a tool.
Fascism is different from your description.
Yes, the Korean leader also thinks so. ;)
Exactly these people came to Kiev in 2014 and then from Kiev to
Russian Donbass and started these hell of violence.
Nobody went to Kiev in 2014. The people of Kiev wanted, and got
change.
You know little -- numerous groups of nationalistic militants (they form now Azov nationalistic units) had been carried in Kiev from western Ukraine. They were the main force of the coup.
The only thing why the West calls them "the fighters for
democratic values" is their Hitler style hatred of Russia. That's
why they desecrate the memorials of those who fought Hitler.
The people of Ukraine are indeed fighting for their freedom and
democracy.
But they trampled those who were not agree with them. Democracy had been trampled in the most impudent and outrageous way.
They were attacked by a fascist government in Russia and seem to
have the support of the Russian people, not entirely but a large
number of Russian people seem to think that "Putin must be right to
attack the people of Ukraine.
Of course they think so. There is a simple test for true Russians -- if somebody desecrate the memory and memorials of the fallen Soviet army soldiers they must be called a fucking Nazi.
No other propaganda from Putin's side is needed to persuade them in the opposite view, and make them to have a smallest sympathy for the Ukrainians
(and other nations) who do such things.
PS: Protasov is not a Russian. He has no nationality.
Violence started when Russia used it forces to take of Crimea.
At Putin lied in front of the cameras "this is not our army".
One lie makes many(c).
I repeat you if you read poorly -- violence in Crimea had not
happened, like it had happened in Donbass, only because of Russian
military in Crimea. And, BTW, If Russian troops entered Donbass in
2014 there would not had been any violence there too.
Justs rememeber how many Ukranian died in 30s when Stalin and
his colleagues took all the food to sell to the west. USSR was a
nightmare to live in. And it brought that nightmare all around.
Soviet soldiers fallen in the WW2 are not connected with it. I hope
you will not connect Catholic Church and inquisition killings.
Only if you are pro-putin's far-right supporter. In Russia we
have many opinions, just most of the people cannot say them
publicly because they will be punished. I am also Russian and
most of my friends would same that you are just repeating
low-level propaganda.
During the war the situation in Ukraine and Russia is similar - all
the opinions against the official doctrine are punishable. Don't
a lie and the truth in their disposal. And when Russian media were
totally banned from TV satellites it is profoundly bad. Unless you
It better to say this hate looks like a fear for a strong Russia.
There is no such things in Ukraine after 2014, at least for eastern
is fighting for democracy. In reality Ukrainians want to create a
single nationality state as Israel has done -- a very poor example of democracy.
Again I have a feeling that you write from Mars. ;-)
So, where do you want to go today?
Violence started when Russia used it forces to take of Crimea. At
Putin lied in front of the cameras "this is not our army". One
lie makes many(c).
I repeat you if you read poorly -- violence in Crimea had not happened, like it had happened in Donbass, only because of Russian military in Crimea. And, BTW, If Russian troops entered Donbass in 2014 there would not had been any violence there too.
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(Soviet Ukrainians soldiers also among them), not for their
ancestors.
Justs rememeber how many Ukranian died in 30s when Stalin and his
colleagues took all the food to sell to the west. USSR was a
nightmare to live in. And it brought that nightmare all around.
Soviet soldiers fallen in the WW2 are not connected with it. I hope you will not connect Catholic Church and inquisition killings.
The will do anything to keep their power. It's well known how
Russian stated payed to neo-nazis in Europe and invited them to
Saint Petersburg. At the same time talking about danger of the
Fascism.
I know that many people have different opinions who should be
called a Nazi or a fascist. But in Russian there is no question
about it.
Only if you are pro-putin's far-right supporter. In Russia we have
many opinions, just most of the people cannot say them publicly
because they will be punished. I am also Russian and most of my
friends would same that you are just repeating low-level
propaganda.
During the war the situation in Ukraine and Russia is similar - all the opinions against the official doctrine are punishable. Don't pretend you don't know it.
Nobody went to Kiev in 2014. The people of Kiev wanted, and got
change.
You know little -- numerous groups of nationalistic militants
(they form now Azov nationalistic units) had been carried in Kiev
from western Ukraine. They were the main force of the coup.
Azov nationalistic units? That is just a lie.
You believe only Ukrainian propaganda, I know. ;-)
But believing in black-and-white world is a sign of narrow-mindedness. Both
sides have a lie and the truth in their disposal.
And when Russian media were totally banned from TV satellites it is profoundly bad.
Unless you consider (as Borrel in EC)) that people in general are fools and
cannot tell what is a lie and you should act as a doctor for their brains.
But no western TV will show hospitals, kindergartens and houses bombed by Ukrainians fighter for democracy.
The only thing why the West calls them "the fighters for
democratic values" is their Hitler style hatred of Russia.
That's why they desecrate the memorials of those who fought
Hitler.
The west does not hate Russia, they hate what Russian has done and
is doing.
It better to say this hate looks like a fear for a strong Russia.
The people of Ukraine are indeed fighting for their freedom and
democracy.
There is no such things in Ukraine after 2014, at least for eastern part and southern part of it. Nationalists had made democracy for themselves only.
But they trampled those who were not agree with them. Democracy
had been trampled in the most impudent and outrageous way.
They trampled no one. They wanted and got change. They meant it.
You've got a stamp in your brain that everyone who is against Russia is fighting for democracy. In reality Ukrainians want to create a single nationality state as Israel has done -- a very poor example of democracy.
They were attacked by a fascist government in Russia and seem to
have the support of the Russian people, not entirely but a large
number of Russian people seem to think that "Putin must be right
to attack the people of Ukraine.
Of course they think so. There is a simple test for true
Russians -- if somebody desecrate the memory and memorials of the
fallen Soviet army soldiers they must be called a fucking Nazi. No
other propaganda from Putin's side is needed to persuade them in
the opposite view, and make them to have a smallest sympathy for
the Ukrainians (and other nations) who do such things.
They know so. This desecration of memorials of fallen soviet
soldiers is another lie. It has no basic in reality.
Again I have a feeling that you write from Mars. ;-)
Azov nationalistic units? That is just a lie.
You believe only Ukrainian propaganda, I know. ;-)
But believing in black-and-white world is a sign of narrow-mindedness. Both sides have a lie and the truth in their disposal.
And when Russian media were totally banned from TV satellites it is profoundly bad.
Unless you consider (as Borrel in EC)) that people in general are fools and cannot tell what is a lie and you should act as a doctor for their brains.
But no western TV will show hospitals, kindergartens and houses bombed by Ukrainians fighter for democracy.
The west does not hate Russia, they hate what Russian has done and
is doing.
It better to say this hate looks like a fear for a strong Russia.
The people of Ukraine are indeed fighting for their freedom and
democracy.
There is no such things in Ukraine after 2014, at least for eastern part
and southern part of it. Nationalists had made democracy for themselves
only.
But they trampled those who were not agree with them. Democracy
had been trampled in the most impudent and outrageous way.
They trampled no one. They wanted and got change. They meant it.
You've got a stamp in your brain that everyone who is against Russia is fighting for democracy. In reality Ukrainians want to create a single nationality state as Israel has done -- a very poor example of democracy.
They know so. This desecration of memorials of fallen soviet
soldiers is another lie. It has no basic in reality.
Again I have a feeling that you write from Mars. ;-)
You've got a stamp in your brain that everyone who is
against Russia is fighting for democracy. In reality
Ukrainians want to create a single nationality state as
Israel has done -- a very poor example of democracy.
Russia doesn't come into the thinking of western people as
you seem to think.
Russia doesn't come into the thinking of western people as
you seem to think.
P's latest speech to the nation painted "the west" as a corrupt
society. So.. that is what his people ARE thinking. That's the
official message that they get.
It is interesting that P doesn't mention the corruption and
heavy-handedness of his own regime on Ru's people.
It better to say this hate looks like a fear for a strong Russia.
It better to say this hate looks like a fear for a strong Russia.
Define strong. Do you just think in terms of military power?
What's so great about living in Russia?
True, it's not really a war, it's a special military operation. Don't ask me what it is so special about it, I'm guessing the way it sucks?
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