• Road Tripping

    From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Tue Sep 24 10:44:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    In other news I've got nine others to sign my petition to have my
    friend Les named as Springfield's "First Citizen". We're keeping our fingers crossed but we're also being realistic about it. The award
    always seems to go with the "money" crowd. And whilst Les is not
    "hurting" he's not in the "hire an accountant to minimise my taxes" category.

    Keep pushing it; you may be nicely surprised this year. And, if not
    this year, maybe next?

    It would be nice if the award were not posthumous. Les is 87 and his
    old ticker is getting shaky on him. His son nis a retired cardiac
    nurse and is thinking about re-locating to Springfield to take care
    of his dad.

    That would be nice for both of them. Steve's younger sister is a nurse
    but Mom is in an assisted living place, better for both of them.
    Neither of our daughters went into nursing sowe don't have any "next generation help" lined up.

    He keeps Les informed on what his doctors are really talking about. And
    advises him on what he can and can't "get away with" in his activities.
    Sadly Les has had to give up on cooking chilli for chill suppers. He
    still can supervise, though.

    At the end of the month the local college is putting on a "Chilli Event"
    using Les' recipe. He was a volunteer instructor there for several years
    The event will be held in the "Culinary Arts Center" where they train profeeionals in the culinary field.

    Today is our 49th anniversary so we're going out to one of our favorite local seafood places for supper. Can't get down on the coast where we
    used to live and even if we could, most of the places we used to to go
    to are long gone. We're also prepping the camper; next week is an

    Many of my favourites from when I wora a younger man's clothes have
    been victims of "development". Or bad business sense. Or simply retirement.

    And some have morphed into something different from what made them a regular stop on my agenda. One of the few remaining, Ritz's L'il
    Fryer, is going to our Sunday Breakfast Bunch stop this week.

    Most all the places morphed into something else. One place was still
    going as a restaurant last time we were there. Used to be one of our favorite "go to" places so we went there and were disappointed. It had changed hands, quality and quantity of the food had gone down hill.

    Of copurse you guys haven'r changed a bit. Bv)=

    RV/radio net rally in Pigeon Forge, TN. Got to make sure we have enough room to bring back some new cast iron pieces. (G)

    Are you visiting a foundry in Pigeon Forge? Or stopping at the Lodge factory outlet store in South Pittsburgh?. After Dollywood, of course.

    Stopping at a Lodge outlet store, not planning on going to Dollywood.
    Had thought about the Biltmore on our way out but base level entry fee
    was $90. per person, a bit too rich for us.

    I'm not big on theme parks, fairs and similar expositions. Part of that
    is the amount of walking involved. And another (big) part is the "Been
    there. Done that" syndrome of many older folks. Bv)=

    Still, though, I'm a fan of Ms. Parton. Not only is she easy on the
    eyes, she can sing. And better yet, she can cook.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Dolly Parton's "Stone Soup"
    Categories: Poultry, Potatoes, Vegetables, Pork
    Yield: 8 servings

    2 qt Chicken broth
    1 lb Russet potatoes; scrubbed,
    - peeled, diced
    14 1/2 oz Can diced tomatoes
    1 sm Head cabbage; coarse
    - chopped
    1 lb Turnips; peeled, diced
    2 lg Carrots; peeled. diced
    1 sm Onion; chopped
    4 cl Garlic; minced
    1 Smoked ham hock
    1 Very clean stone
    Salt & pepper

    Pour the chicken broth into a large stockpot. Add in the
    diced potatoes, diced tomatoes and their liquid, chopped
    cabbage, diced turnips, diced carrot, diced onions,
    minced garlic and ham hock.

    Bring the soup to a boil over medium-high heat. Reduce
    the heat to low and simmer it uncovered for about 2
    hours. Stir the soup occasionally during simmering.

    Scoop the ham hock from the soup and place it on a
    cutting board. Remove the skin and discard. Remove the
    meat and use a sharp knife to dice it. Add the diced
    meat back into the soup, discarding the bone or giving
    it to the dog.

    Taste the soup; it will have some saltiness from the
    stock and ham hock, but you can add more if it needs
    some, along with black pepper to taste. Remove the stone
    from the soup. (You can wash the stone and save it for
    the next batch.) Serve the soup while it's hot. Serve
    your soup along with this pecan chicken salad.

    Dolly Parton, Dollywood, Tennessee

    Makes: 6 - 8 servings

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.tasteofhome.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Dolly Parton's Pecan Chicken Salad
    Categories: Poultry, Nuts, Vegetables, Sauces
    Yield: 4 servings

    3 c Diced, cooked chicken
    3 Celery ribs
    1 sm Onion
    3/4 c Pecan halves
    1/2 c Mayonnaise
    1 tb Dijon mustard
    Salt & pepper
    Watercress or greens for
    - plating

    Dice the celery ribs and small onion. Add to a large
    bowl.

    Add the following ingredients to the celery and onions:
    diced chicken, pecans, mayonnaise and mustard. Mix well
    with a spatula, then use two forks to shred the chicken
    a bit.

    As you're shredding it, the chicken will incorporate the
    mayonnaise and mustard better. The more it's shredded,
    the less chance of a dry bite.

    Season with salt and pepper. Serve immediately or store
    for later. It will be good for up to one week.

    Dolly Parton, Dollywood, Tennessee

    Makes: 6 servings

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.tasteofhome.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM


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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Tue Sep 24 13:54:30 2024
    Hi Dave,


    It would be nice if the award were not posthumous. Les is 87 and his
    old ticker is getting shaky on him. His son nis a retired cardiac
    nurse and is thinking about re-locating to Springfield to take care
    of his dad.

    That would be nice for both of them. Steve's younger sister is a nurse
    but Mom is in an assisted living place, better for both of them.
    Neither of our daughters went into nursing sowe don't have any "next generation help" lined up.

    He keeps Les informed on what his doctors are really talking about.
    And advises him on what he can and can't "get away with" in his activities. Sadly Les has had to give up on cooking chilli for chill suppers. He still can supervise, though.

    Sad that he had to give up the cooking but good to know his recipe is
    still going strong in the community. Does the town have a "home of Les's
    (last name) famous chili" sign at the town limits along each highway
    entrance? If not, why not?

    At the end of the month the local college is putting on a "Chilli
    Event" using Les' recipe. He was a volunteer instructor there for
    several years The event will be held in the "Culinary Arts Center"
    where they train DD> profeeionals in the culinary field.

    Trained anybody famous so far?

    And some have morphed into something different from what made them a regular stop on my agenda. One of the few remaining, Ritz's L'il
    Fryer, is going to our Sunday Breakfast Bunch stop this week.

    Most all the places morphed into something else. One place was still
    going as a restaurant last time we were there. Used to be one of our favorite "go to" places so we went there and were disappointed. It had changed hands, quality and quantity of the food had gone down hill.

    Of copurse you guys haven'r changed a bit. Bv)=

    Not a bit! (G)


    RV/radio net rally in Pigeon Forge, TN. Got to make sure we have enough room to bring back some new cast iron pieces. (G)

    Are you visiting a foundry in Pigeon Forge? Or stopping at the Lodge factory outlet store in South Pittsburgh?. After Dollywood, of course.

    There's an outlet store in Pigeon Forge, stopped there today and got an
    8 compartment scone pan, a 6 cup muffin pan and several small
    accessories--with a military discount spent less than $90.

    Stopping at a Lodge outlet store, not planning on going to Dollywood.
    Had thought about the Biltmore on our way out but base level entry fee
    was $90. per person, a bit too rich for us.

    I'm not big on theme parks, fairs and similar expositions. Part of
    that is the amount of walking involved. And another (big) part is the "Been
    there. Done that" syndrome of many older folks. Bv)=

    And a lot it (rides, honky tonk shows, etc) is stuff we have absolutly
    no interest in. The main street/road/whatever you call it in this area
    (Pigeon Forge runs into Sevierville) is full of "Adventure Land parks",
    dinner and show theaters, souvenier shops of all sorts....I.O.W.,
    anything to separate the tourist from their $$$.


    Still, though, I'm a fan of Ms. Parton. Not only is she easy on the
    eyes, she can sing. And better yet, she can cook.

    Title: Dolly Parton's "Stone Soup"
    Categories: Poultry, Potatoes, Vegetables, Pork
    Yield: 8 servings

    2 qt Chicken broth
    1 lb Russet potatoes; scrubbed,
    - peeled, diced
    14 1/2 oz Can diced tomatoes
    1 sm Head cabbage; coarse
    - chopped
    1 lb Turnips; peeled, diced
    2 lg Carrots; peeled. diced
    1 sm Onion; chopped
    4 cl Garlic; minced
    1 Smoked ham hock
    1 Very clean stone
    Salt & pepper

    Pour the chicken broth into a large stockpot. Add in the
    diced potatoes, diced tomatoes and their liquid, chopped
    cabbage, diced turnips, diced carrot, diced onions,
    minced garlic and ham hock.

    Bring the soup to a boil over medium-high heat. Reduce
    the heat to low and simmer it uncovered for about 2
    hours. Stir the soup occasionally during simmering.

    Scoop the ham hock from the soup and place it on a
    cutting board. Remove the skin and discard. Remove the
    meat and use a sharp knife to dice it. Add the diced
    meat back into the soup, discarding the bone or giving
    it to the dog.

    Taste the soup; it will have some saltiness from the
    stock and ham hock, but you can add more if it needs
    some, along with black pepper to taste. Remove the stone
    from the soup. (You can wash the stone and save it for
    the next batch.) Serve the soup while it's hot. Serve
    your soup along with this pecan chicken salad.

    Nothing in the directions about when to add the stone.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:396/45 to Ruth Haffly on Thu Sep 26 05:44:36 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    It would be nice if the award were not posthumous. Les is 87 and his
    old ticker is getting shaky on him. His son nis a retired cardiac
    nurse and is thinking about re-locating to Springfield to take care
    of his dad.

    That would be nice for both of them. Steve's younger sister is a nurse
    but Mom is in an assisted living place, better for both of them.
    Neither of our daughters went into nursing sowe don't have any "next generation help" lined up.

    He keeps Les informed on what his doctors are really talking about.
    And advises him on what he can and can't "get away with" in his activities. Sadly Les has had to give up on cooking chilli for chill suppers. He still can supervise, though.

    Sad that he had to give up the cooking but good to know his recipe is still going strong in the community. Does the town have a "home of
    Les's (last name) famous chili" sign at the town limits along each
    highway entrance? If not, why not?

    Not really. We had threer chilli canners here at one time. Two of the
    labels are still in business. Chilli Man, started by Joe DeFrates who
    used to be part of our Thursday lunch bunch. And Ray's Chilli established
    by Ray DeFrates (Joe's brother). The Defrates brothers have passed but
    their labels live on. Chilli Man is owned by Faribault Foods in (of all
    places) Faribault, Minne-snow-ta. And Ray's is owned by the former sales manager for the label, Jay Nicole, and located next-town-over (Decatur,
    IL). Scully's Chilli is now being made in Carlinville, IL and is only distributed in central Illinois.

    At the end of the month the local college is putting on a "Chilli
    Event" using Les' recipe. He was a volunteer instructor there for
    several years The event will be held in the "Culinary Arts Center"
    where they train DD> profeeionals in the culinary field.

    Trained anybody famous so far?

    Only locally well-known. And successful. He was also one of the driving
    forces, along with his brother, Don, in the resolution passed by the
    state legislature and signed by (then) Governor Jim Edgar. The whole
    thing was sponsored by former Springfield Mayor and then State Senator
    Karen Hasara. You can read the story here: https://tinyurl.com/CHILLINAME

    And some have morphed into something different from what made them a regular stop on my agenda. One of the few remaining, Ritz's L'il
    Fryer, is going to our Sunday Breakfast Bunch stop this week.

    Most all the places morphed into something else. One place was still
    going as a restaurant last time we were there. Used to be one of our favorite "go to" places so we went there and were disappointed. It had changed hands, quality and quantity of the food had gone down hill.

    Of copurse you guys haven'r changed a bit. Bv)=

    Not a bit! (G)

    RV/radio net rally in Pigeon Forge, TN. Got to make sure we have enough room to bring back some new cast iron pieces. (G)

    Are you visiting a foundry in Pigeon Forge? Or stopping at the Lodge factory outlet store in South Pittsburgh?. After Dollywood, of course.

    There's an outlet store in Pigeon Forge, stopped there today and got an
    8 compartment scone pan, a 6 cup muffin pan and several small accessories--with a military discount spent less than $90.

    Stopping at a Lodge outlet store, not planning on going to Dollywood.
    Had thought about the Biltmore on our way out but base level entry fee
    was $90. per person, a bit too rich for us.

    Did you know that Lodge is producig a line of Dolly Parton cast iron
    cookware? I've bought one of the 12" skillets for gifting this holiday
    season. https://www.lodgecastiron.com/dolly-parton

    I note that I gat a "bargain". I bought the 12" skillet from Amazon at
    the 10" skillet price (U$29.95)

    I'm not big on theme parks, fairs and similar expositions. Part of
    that is the amount of walking involved. And another (big) part is the "Been there. Done that" syndrome of many older folks. Bv)=

    And a lot it (rides, honky tonk shows, etc) is stuff we have absolutly
    no interest in. The main street/road/whatever you call it in this area (Pigeon Forge runs into Sevierville) is full of "Adventure Land parks", dinner and show theaters, souvenier shops of all sorts....I.O.W.,
    anything to separate the tourist from their $$$.

    When I was a kid I haunted the midway and its rides and games of "skill".
    As well as climbing all over the farm machinery displayed. I pretend drove
    a wide range of tractors, etc. before I was old enough to drive them in the real world and learned it's a chore, not necessarily a fuin thing.

    Still, though, I'm a fan of Ms. Parton. Not only is she easy on the
    eyes, she can sing. And better yet, she can cook.

    Title: Dolly Parton's "Stone Soup"
    Categories: Poultry, Potatoes, Vegetables, Pork
    Yield: 8 servings

    2 qt Chicken broth
    1 lb Russet potatoes; scrubbed,
    - peeled, diced
    14 1/2 oz Can diced tomatoes
    1 sm Head cabbage; coarse
    - chopped
    1 lb Turnips; peeled, diced
    2 lg Carrots; peeled. diced
    1 sm Onion; chopped
    4 cl Garlic; minced
    1 Smoked ham hock
    1 Very clean stone
    Salt & pepper

    Pour the chicken broth into a large stockpot. Add in the
    diced potatoes, diced tomatoes and their liquid, chopped
    cabbage, diced turnips, diced carrot, diced onions,
    minced garlic and ham hock.

    Bring the soup to a boil over medium-high heat. Reduce
    the heat to low and simmer it uncovered for about 2
    hours. Stir the soup occasionally during simmering.

    Scoop the ham hock from the soup and place it on a
    cutting board. Remove the skin and discard. Remove the
    meat and use a sharp knife to dice it. Add the diced
    meat back into the soup, discarding the bone or giving
    it to the dog.

    Taste the soup; it will have some saltiness from the
    stock and ham hock, but you can add more if it needs
    some, along with black pepper to taste. Remove the stone
    from the soup. (You can wash the stone and save it for
    the next batch.) Serve the soup while it's hot. Serve
    your soup along with this pecan chicken salad.

    Nothing in the directions about when to add the stone.

    That would be at your discretion. Bv)= Like the Salt & Pepper call in
    the ingredients list. It's up to you.

    I've made this recipe using a rotissiere chicken that was marked down
    near closing time for the store. It's on the repeat list. Some diced
    Cosmic Crisp (or Honey Crisp) apple makes it very Arby's-like.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Dolly Parton's Pecan Chicken Salad
    Categories: Poultry, Nuts, Vegetables, Sauces
    Yield: 4 servings

    3 c Diced, cooked chicken
    3 Celery ribs
    1 sm Onion
    3/4 c Pecan halves
    1/2 c Mayonnaise
    1 tb Dijon mustard
    Salt & pepper
    Watercress or greens for
    - plating

    Dice the celery ribs and small onion. Add to a large
    bowl.

    Add the following ingredients to the celery and onions:
    diced chicken, pecans, mayonnaise and mustard. Mix well
    with a spatula, then use two forks to shred the chicken
    a bit.

    As you're shredding it, the chicken will incorporate the
    mayonnaise and mustard better. The more it's shredded,
    the less chance of a dry bite.

    Season with salt and pepper. Serve immediately or store
    for later. It will be good for up to one week.

    Dolly Parton, Dollywood, Tennessee

    Makes: 6 servings

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.tasteofhome.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    MMMMM

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Thu Sep 26 21:52:32 2024
    Hi Dave,

    He keeps Les informed on what his doctors are really talking about.
    And advises him on what he can and can't "get away with" in his activities. Sadly Les has had to give up on cooking chilli for chill suppers. He still can supervise, though.

    Sad that he had to give up the cooking but good to know his recipe is still going strong in the community. Does the town have a "home of
    Les's (last name) famous chili" sign at the town limits along each
    highway entrance? If not, why not?

    Not really. We had threer chilli canners here at one time. Two of the labels are still in business. Chilli Man, started by Joe DeFrates who
    used to be part of our Thursday lunch bunch. And Ray's Chilli
    established by Ray DeFrates (Joe's brother). The Defrates brothers
    have passed but
    their labels live on. Chilli Man is owned by Faribault Foods in (of
    all places) Faribault, Minne-snow-ta. And Ray's is owned by the former sales manager for the label, Jay Nicole, and located next-town-over (Decatur, IL). Scully's Chilli is now being made in Carlinville, IL
    and is only
    distributed in central Illinois.

    WOW! I didn't realise the state was so into chili. We left Pigeon Forge
    a day early (weather coming in and Steve has a can't miss dr. appt.
    Monday), took a country road up to I-40. On the way we passed the Bush's
    Beans factory & visitor's center. We didn't stop this time but maybe
    some other time when we're in the area we'll consider it. A can of beans
    was in our rally goody bag.

    At the end of the month the local college is putting on a "Chilli
    Event" using Les' recipe. He was a volunteer instructor there for
    several years The event will be held in the "Culinary Arts Center"
    where they train DD> profeeionals in the culinary field.

    Trained anybody famous so far?

    Only locally well-known. And successful. He was also one of the
    driving forces, along with his brother, Don, in the resolution passed
    by the
    state legislature and signed by (then) Governor Jim Edgar. The whole
    thing was sponsored by former Springfield Mayor and then State Senator Karen Hasara. You can read the story here:
    https://tinyurl.com/CHILLINAME

    OK, might give it a look/see when we get back home and resettled.


    RV/radio net rally in Pigeon Forge, TN. Got to make sure we have enough room to bring back some new cast iron pieces. (G)

    Are you visiting a foundry in Pigeon Forge? Or stopping at the Lodge factory outlet store in South Pittsburgh?. After Dollywood, of course.

    There's an outlet store in Pigeon Forge, stopped there today and got an
    8 compartment scone pan, a 6 cup muffin pan and several small accessories--with a military discount spent less than $90.

    Stopping at a Lodge outlet store, not planning on going to Dollywood.
    Had thought about the Biltmore on our way out but base level entry fee
    was $90. per person, a bit too rich for us.

    Did you know that Lodge is producig a line of Dolly Parton cast iron cookware? I've bought one of the 12" skillets for gifting this holiday season. https://www.lodgecastiron.com/dolly-parton

    Saw that but went with the original stuff.

    I note that I gat a "bargain". I bought the 12" skillet from Amazon
    at DD> the 10" skillet price (U$29.95)

    Good deal!


    I'm not big on theme parks, fairs and similar expositions. Part of
    that is the amount of walking involved. And another (big) part is the "Been there. Done that" syndrome of many older folks. Bv)=

    And a lot it (rides, honky tonk shows, etc) is stuff we have absolutly
    no interest in. The main street/road/whatever you call it in this area (Pigeon Forge runs into Sevierville) is full of "Adventure Land parks", dinner and show theaters, souvenier shops of all sorts....I.O.W.,
    anything to separate the tourist from their $$$.

    When I was a kid I haunted the midway and its rides and games of
    "skill". As well as climbing all over the farm machinery displayed. I pretend drove a wide range of tractors, etc. before I was old enough
    to drive them in the real world and learned it's a chore, not
    necessarily a fuin thing.

    I never got into them, partly because my folks never took us to anything
    other than the local fireman's carnival--except for one time we spent a
    couple of hours at an amuesment park in St. Catherine's, Ontario. After
    getting married, we went to Busch Gardens once with Steve's folks and
    several Dippemesses in Frankfurt, W. Germany. Latter is a big carnival
    set up and also local potters (& other crafts folks) have seasonal
    sales.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Sat Sep 28 05:17:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Sad that he had to give up the cooking but good to know his recipe is still going strong in the community. Does the town have a "home of
    Les's (last name) famous chili" sign at the town limits along each
    highway entrance? If not, why not?

    Not really. We had three chilli canners here at one time. Two of the labels are still in business. Chilli Man, started by Joe DeFrates who
    used to be part of our Thursday lunch bunch. And Ray's Chilli
    established by Ray DeFrates (Joe's brother). The Defrates brothers
    have passed but their labels live on. Chilli Man is owned by Faribault Foods in (of all places) Faribault, Minne-snow-ta. And Ray's is owned
    by the former sales manager for the label, Jay Nicole, and located next-town-over (Decatur, IL). Scully's Chilli is now being made in Carlinville, IL and is only distributed in central Illinois.

    Another note on Joe DeFrates - he is/was the only two-time winner of
    the International Chili Society's World Championship. I'll post what he
    claimed was his recipe for that winning chilli below.

    WOW! I didn't realise the state was so into chili. We left Pigeon Forge
    a day early (weather coming in and Steve has a can't miss dr. appt. Monday), took a country road up to I-40. On the way we passed the
    Bush's Beans factory & visitor's center. We didn't stop this time but maybe some other time when we're in the area we'll consider it. A can
    of beans was in our rally goody bag.

    Bush makes a very good product. I use their pinto beans sometimes in my
    home chilli. If cooking for a chilli supper or siilar event I'm more
    likely to go with Brook's Chili Hot Beans in the #10 can. But Bush's
    chilli beans are good, if a bit of a different flavour profile. I've
    not found them in a #10 can, though. Just the usual 15 oz grocery store
    items.

    At the end of the month the local college is putting on a "Chilli
    Event" using Les' recipe. He was a volunteer instructor there for
    several years The event will be held in the "Culinary Arts Center"
    where they train profeeionals in the culinary field.

    Trained anybody famous so far?

    Only locally well-known. And successful. He was also one of the
    driving forces, along with his brother, Don, in the resolution passed
    by the state legislature and signed by (then) Governor Jim Edgar.
    The whole thing was sponsored by former Springfield Mayor and then
    State Senator Karen Hasara. You can read the story here: https://tinyurl.com/CHILLINAME

    OK, might give it a look/see when we get back home and resettled.

    Don Eastep is the guy whose "15 Minutes of Fame" consisted of a bogus
    win the the Chili Appreciation Society's "Behind The Store" cook-off.
    He was elegible (along with both of his brothers) but had not planned
    on cooking. So he got a sample of each cook's chilli and mixed them
    together, turn in the result ... and won. When the story came out the
    "win" was rescinded, the trophy and prize $$$ awarded to the guy who
    finished second. And a (joke) warrant issued for Don.

    A few years later he was invited back, the Governor of Texas granted
    a pardon on the charges and he cooked against the Dentist who rightly
    won their previous encounter. At the end of the day there were only 2
    points separating them.

    RV/radio net rally in Pigeon Forge, TN. Got to make sure we have enough room to bring back some new cast iron pieces. (G)

    Are you visiting a foundry in Pigeon Forge? Or stopping at the Lodge factory outlet store in South Pittsburgh?. After Dollywood, of course.

    There's an outlet store in Pigeon Forge, stopped there today and got an
    8 compartment scone pan, a 6 cup muffin pan and several small accessories--with a military discount spent less than $90.

    Scones is something I've never made or knowingly eaten. That is I may
    have had a scone at some time without knowing it was called a scone. Bv)=

    Stopping at a Lodge outlet store, not planning on going to Dollywood.
    Had thought about the Biltmore on our way out but base level entry fee
    was $90. per person, a bit too rich for us.

    Did you know that Lodge is producig a line of Dolly Parton cast iron cookware? I've bought one of the 12" skillets for gifting this holiday season. https://www.lodgecastiron.com/dolly-parton

    Saw that but went with the original stuff.

    I note that I gat a "bargain". I bought the 12" skillet from Amazon
    at DD> the 10" skillet price (U$29.95)

    Good deal!

    I thought so.

    I'm not big on theme parks, fairs and similar expositions. Part of
    that is the amount of walking involved. And another (big) part is the "Been there. Done that" syndrome of many older folks. Bv)=

    And a lot it (rides, honky tonk shows, etc) is stuff we have absolutly
    no interest in. The main street/road/whatever you call it in this area (Pigeon Forge runs into Sevierville) is full of "Adventure Land parks", dinner and show theaters, souvenier shops of all sorts....I.O.W.,
    anything to separate the tourist from their $$$.

    When I was a kid I haunted the midway and its rides and games of
    "skill". As well as climbing all over the farm machinery displayed. I pretend drove a wide range of tractors, etc. before I was old enough
    to drive them in the real world and learned it's a chore, not
    necessarily a fun thing.

    I never got into them, partly because my folks never took us to
    anything other than the local fireman's carnival--except for one time
    we spent a couple of hours at an amuesment park in St. Catherine's, Ontario. After getting married, we went to Busch Gardens once with
    Steve's folks and several Dippemesses in Frankfurt, W. Germany. Latter
    is a big carnival set up and also local potters (& other crafts folks) have seasonal sales.

    The last county fair I went to was my local deal in New Berlin. Their was
    a chilli cook-off in which I placed second and won the salsa (pico de gallo, really) competition. The hung around to see the free grandstand show that evening. Three Dog Night was playing - with all but one of its orifinal musicians ... and the one not there was pushing up daisies instead of
    touring - mostly because he got his lunch in a traffic mishap.

    Here's that chilli recipe and I'm going away.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: 1975 ICS World Championship Winning Chilli
    Categories: Five, Beef, Vegetables, Chilies, Stews
    Yield: 3 Servings

    1 lb Ground beef
    1 oz Pkg Chilli Man Chilli Mix *
    8 oz Can Hunts tomato sauce
    ds Tabasco sauce

    Brown ground beef in heavy skillet. Stir in contents of
    chilli mix and add tomato sauce. Simmer for 1 hour and add
    Tabasco.

    * Joe DeFrates originally developed the Chilli Man Mix
    (the Illinois spelling of Chilli) and sold it, packaged,
    under that name from the 1950s until he sold the recipe to
    the Milnot Co. of Litchfield, IL, in the 1970s. It is
    available today in most midwestern states under the
    original name. The actual ingredients of the chilli mix are
    not available.

    A FURTHER NOTE: You can believe that this is the actual
    recipe if you like. But, no chilli cook *ever* gives out
    the exact recipe that he used. And the original chilli
    spice mix that Joe probably did use is no longer
    available - so, use Gebhardt or Mexene or whatever your
    favourite is. - UDD

    From: http://www.chilicookoff.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sat Sep 28 13:09:41 2024
    Hi Dave,

    Another note on Joe DeFrates - he is/was the only two-time winner of
    the International Chili Society's World Championship. I'll post what
    he claimed was his recipe for that winning chilli below.

    Probably will never again have the same person win two championships. I
    make an ICS type chili that's won a (and placed a number of times) in
    our church's cook off but never entered a major cook off.

    WOW! I didn't realise the state was so into chili. We left Pigeon Forge
    a day early (weather coming in and Steve has a can't miss dr. appt. Monday), took a country road up to I-40. On the way we passed the
    Bush's Beans factory & visitor's center. We didn't stop this time but maybe some other time when we're in the area we'll consider it. A can
    of beans was in our rally goody bag.

    Bush makes a very good product. I use their pinto beans sometimes in
    my home chilli. If cooking for a chilli supper or siilar event I'm
    more
    likely to go with Brook's Chili Hot Beans in the #10 can. But Bush's chilli beans are good, if a bit of a different flavour profile. I've
    not found them in a #10 can, though. Just the usual 15 oz grocery
    store items.

    Our rally was held not too far from the Bush facilities. Had we not had
    the tire problem and bad weather, we might have visited it. Made it home yesterday, spent the night in Greensboro, NC so we were out of western
    NC before the closing of I-40 and other roads. As is, it took twice as
    long to get home as the drive usually is, hard rain for most of the way
    until we got to this side of Durham.

    by the state legislature and signed by (then) Governor Jim Edgar.
    The whole thing was sponsored by former Springfield Mayor and then
    State Senator Karen Hasara. You can read the story here: https://tinyurl.com/CHILLINAME

    OK, might give it a look/see when we get back home and resettled.

    We're home, but not resettled. Got the basics done but will do the rest
    over the next few days.


    Don Eastep is the guy whose "15 Minutes of Fame" consisted of a bogus
    win the the Chili Appreciation Society's "Behind The Store" cook-off.
    He was elegible (along with both of his brothers) but had not planned
    on cooking. So he got a sample of each cook's chilli and mixed them together, turn in the result ... and won. When the story came out the "win" was rescinded, the trophy and prize $$$ awarded to the guy who finished second. And a (joke) warrant issued for Don.

    A few years later he was invited back, the Governor of Texas granted
    a pardon on the charges and he cooked against the Dentist who rightly
    won their previous encounter. At the end of the day there were only 2 points separating them.

    Good story to pass on to Grandkids. (G)

    There's an outlet store in Pigeon Forge, stopped there today and got an
    8 compartment scone pan, a 6 cup muffin pan and several small accessories--with a military discount spent less than $90.

    Scones is something I've never made or knowingly eaten. That is I may
    have had a scone at some time without knowing it was called a scone.
    Bv)=

    They are usually triangular in shape, sort of like a biscuit but more flavorful. We make an oatmeal based scone from a booklet we got from
    Quaker Oats several decades ago.

    When I was a kid I haunted the midway and its rides and games of
    "skill". As well as climbing all over the farm machinery displayed. I pretend drove a wide range of tractors, etc. before I was old enough
    to drive them in the real world and learned it's a chore, not
    necessarily a fun thing.

    I never got into them, partly because my folks never took us to


    CONTINUED IN NEXT MESSAGE <<

    ---
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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Sun Sep 29 16:31:51 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Our rally was held not too far from the Bush facilities.

    You weren't too far away from me. I you remember where I lived when you stopped by and met me and my then-wife, I live about a mile further east
    from there now.

    There's an outlet store in Pigeon Forge, stopped there today and got an
    8 compartment scone pan, a 6 cup muffin pan and several small accessories--with a military discount spent less than $90.

    That's a fun place to go but a real pain to navigate through with a mobility scooter.

    I love to go to the Steak 'N Shake across the street and visit Bucee's when
    I'm there in the area.

    I couldn't find a recipe I liked to go with this message, so I found one on
    the Web and added it to my collection...

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Buc-ee's Copycat Beaver Nuggets
    Categories: Snacks, Candies, Seandennis
    Yield: 32 Servings

    10 oz Puffed corn
    3/4 c Unsalted butter
    1 c Firmly packed light brown
    - sugar
    1/2 c Light corn syrup
    1/2 t Salt
    1 t Baking soda
    1 t Vanilla extract
    1 t Maple extract (optional)

    1. Preheat oven to 250F. Place the puffed corn into a large
    heat-proof bowl. Set aside.

    2. Heat the butter, brown sugar, corn syrup, and salt in a small
    saucepan over medium-high heat. Bring to a boil, stirring until the
    butter is melted. Reduce heat to medium-low; boil, undisturbed and
    uncovered, for 5 minutes.

    3. Remove the saucepan from heat and stir in vanilla extract and
    baking soda. (See tip 4)

    4. Pour the caramel over the corn puffs; stir to coat.

    5. Spread the mixture onto an ungreased large disposable aluminum
    roasting pan. Bake for one hour and 15 minutes, removing every 15
    minutes to stir. (See tips 5 and 6)

    6. Spread the mixture onto parchment paper to cool. It may seem
    sticky at first but will dry as it cools.

    7. Store in an airtight container.

    Yield: 16 to 17 cups.

    Tips/Notes

    1. If using salted butter, reduce the amount of salt to 1/4 teaspoon.

    2. The puffed corn that I used in this recipe was salted. If you use
    unsalted puffed corn, increase the amount of salt to 1 teaspoon.

    3. The original Buc-ee's Beaver Nuggets taste almost like pancakes and
    syrup. If you prefer that flavor, add a teaspoon of maple syrup to the
    caramel. Otherwise, leave it out.

    4. Be careful when you stir the baking soda into the hot caramel. The
    caramel will bubble up and could burn you if you're not careful.

    5. I like using a large disposable aluminum roasting pan in this
    recipe so I don't have to worry about cleaning up the baked-on
    caramel. I just throw the pan away!

    6. Don't worry if the puffed corn isn't totally covered with the
    caramel initially. As it bakes in the oven, the caramel remains
    liquid and is easily stirred to help coat the puffed corn during the
    15-minute increments.

    Calories: 114kcal
    Carbohydrates: 18g
    Protein: 1g
    Fat: 5g
    Saturated Fat: 3g
    Polyunsaturated Fat: 0.3g
    Monounsaturated Fat: 1g
    Trans Fat: 0.2g
    Cholesterol: 11mg
    Sodium: 77mg
    Potassium: 40mg
    Fiber: 1g
    Sugar: 11g
    Vitamin A: 150IU
    Calcium: 8mg
    Iron: 0.3mg

    From: https://pudgefactor.com/buc-ees-copycat-beaver-nuggets/

    Converted to MealMaster format by Sean Dennis (1:18/200@Fidonet or
    618:618/1@Micronet) on 29 September 2024.

    MMMMM

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Mon Sep 30 04:30:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Bush makes a very good product. I use their pinto beans sometimes in
    my home chilli. If cooking for a chilli supper or siilar event I'm
    likely to go with Brook's Chili Hot Beans in the #10 can. But Bush's chilli beans are good, if a bit of a different flavour profile. I've
    not found them in a #10 can, though. Just the usual 15 oz grocery
    store items.

    Our rally was held not too far from the Bush facilities. Had we not had the tire problem and bad weather, we might have visited it. Made it
    home yesterday, spent the night in Greensboro, NC so we were out of western NC before the closing of I-40 and other roads. As is, it took twice as long to get home as the drive usually is, hard rain for most
    of the way until we got to this side of Durham.

    Good to hear you made it home OK, if a bit damp. I guess Ashville got
    hammered hard.

    by the state legislature and signed by (then) Governor Jim Edgar.
    The whole thing was sponsored by former Springfield Mayor and then
    State Senator Karen Hasara. You can read the story here: https://tinyurl.com/CHILLINAME

    OK, might give it a look/see when we get back home and resettled.

    Take your time, It's not going anywhere. Bv)=

    We're home, but not resettled. Got the basics done but will do the rest over the next few days.

    8<----- SNIP ----->8

    Good story to pass on to Grandkids. (G)

    There's an outlet store in Pigeon Forge, stopped there today and got an
    8 compartment scone pan, a 6 cup muffin pan and several small accessories--with a military discount spent less than $90.

    Scones is something I've never made or knowingly eaten. That is I may
    have had a scone at some time without knowing it was called a scone.
    Bv)=

    They are usually triangular in shape, sort of like a biscuit but more flavorful. We make an oatmeal based scone from a booklet we got from Quaker Oats several decades ago.

    Readig the recipe below - I may have mis-spoken about not having had a
    scone. If, in fact, these are scones and not panquakes, as the recipe
    author suggests.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: St. Swithin's Drop Scones
    Categories: Five, Breads
    Yield: 4 Servings

    4 1/2 oz Self-raising flour
    2 ts Caster sugar
    1 lg Egg; beaten
    2 tb Melted unsalted butter
    150 ml Semi-skimmed milk

    Whisk that all up and leave it for a while to be with
    its thoughts. In the meantime peel, core and slice
    (thickly) two large English Bramley apples. Put these in
    a wide heavy based pan with about 4 tbspns of butter and
    the same of sugar (I favour caster but you might want
    something darker), and a little water. Cook over a low
    heat until the apples start to break down and it all
    starts to thicken and caramelise. Avoid stirring as it
    will make the sugar crystalise and the apples break up -
    it's nice to have some chunks. Lightly shake the pan
    instead. You can do all this in advance and then leave
    it.

    When ready to make the scones (if you're American you
    might want to call them pancakes) heat a pan/griddle
    relatively hot and use a little butter or light oil
    (less is more here). Then drop in tablespoons of the
    batter and wait until bubbles form, then flip and leave
    for about 30 seconds. Then plate up.

    RECIPE FROM: http://onefatman.typepad.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Mon Sep 30 04:45:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Hi Dave,

    anything other than the local fireman's carnival--except for one time
    we spent a couple of hours at an amuesment park in St. Catherine's, Ontario. After getting married, we went to Busch Gardens once with
    Steve's folks and several Dippemesses in Frankfurt, W. Germany. Latter
    is a big carnival set up and also local potters (& other crafts folks) have seasonal sales.

    The last county fair I went to was my local deal in New Berlin. Their
    was a chilli cook-off in which I placed second and won the salsa (pico
    de gallo, really) competition. The hung around to see the free
    grandstand show that evening. Three Dog Night was playing - with all
    but one of its orifinal musicians ... and the one not there was
    pushing up daisies instead of touring - mostly because he got his
    lunch in a traffic mishap.

    Must have been fun to see the show. I would enjoy a Peter, Paul and
    Mary concert but it's down to a duo now. Saw an interview with Paul on
    PBS 5 years ago when I was recouperating from the knee surgery--quite interesting. He was to have a concert in Durham that night but there
    was no way we could have gone.

    I was there with my boss - who kept complaining "That's not the way it
    sounded on the record." And I had to keep reminding him that "This is
    LIVE. No post-production enhancements or edits." Bv)= Still, I enjoyed
    the show. And the price was right - free.

    Here's that chilli recipe and I'm going away.

    Title: 1975 ICS World Championship Winning Chilli
    Categories: Five, Beef, Vegetables, Chilies, Stews
    Yield: 3 Servings

    1 lb Ground beef
    1 oz Pkg Chilli Man Chilli Mix *
    8 oz Can Hunts tomato sauce
    ds Tabasco sauce

    Brown ground beef in heavy skillet. Stir in contents of
    chilli mix and add tomato sauce. Simmer for 1 hour and add
    Tabasco.

    * Joe DeFrates originally developed the Chilli Man Mix
    (the Illinois spelling of Chilli) and sold it, packaged,
    under that name from the 1950s until he sold the recipe to
    the Milnot Co. of Litchfield, IL, in the 1970s. It is
    available today in most midwestern states under the
    original name. The actual ingredients of the chilli mix are
    not available.

    I've not seen it but we've not usually done any grocery shopping in the midwest. We're usually well stocked, either just on our way out west or within a couple of days of getting home and eating down the pantry & fridge.

    Chilli Man used to be sold out east. When I was trucking I hauled more
    than one semi-load to grocer warehouses including Winn-Dixie and Malone &
    Hyde.

    A FURTHER NOTE: You can believe that this is the actual
    recipe if you like. But, no chilli cook *ever* gives out
    the exact recipe that he used. And the original chilli
    spice mix that Joe probably did use is no longer
    available - so, use Gebhardt or Mexene or whatever your
    favourite is. - UDD

    I usually don't use a mix--do my own mix of whatever peppers I have on hand plus onions, meat and tomato whatevers.

    I use Baron's 5640 mix whichj I buy from a local restaurant supply. I
    tart it up with additional cumin, garlic, chilies, etc. But it's a nice starting spot.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Dave's Buffalo Drumsticks
    Categories: Poultry, Chilies, Sauces
    Yield: 4 Servings

    8 Drumsticks; skin on
    2 tb Oil
    1 tb Baron's 5640 chilli spice
    1 ts Garlic powder
    Salt & ground black pepper

    MMMMM---------------------------SAUCE--------------------------------
    1/4 c Butter; melted
    1/2 c Frank's hot sauce
    1 tb Goldman's BBQ sauce (local
    - to Springfield, IL - use
    - your favourite, not too
    - sweet sauce)

    MMMMM-----------------------DAVE'S DIPPER----------------------------
    1/2 c Yoghurt
    1 tb Milk
    1/4 c Mayonnaise
    1 tb Fresh lemon juice
    +=OR=+
    1 tb RealLemon
    1/4 ts Worcestershire sauce
    pn Cayenne; to taste
    1/2 c Crumbled bleu cheese
    Salt & pepper

    FOR THE CHICKEN: Preheat the oven to 375oF/190oC.

    Rinse and pat dry the drumsticks. Mix the oil, chilli
    spice, garlic powder, and some salt and pepper in a
    medium bowl or resealable plastic bag. Toss the drummers
    in the seasoned oil to coat well. Bake the drumsticks on
    a wire rack placed on a baking sheet (so air circulates
    around chicken) until very tender and the skin is crisp,
    50 minutes.

    FOR THE SPICY SAUCE: Mix together the butter, hot sauce
    and BBQ sauce in a large bowl.

    Toss the drumsticks in the spicy sauce until well coated.
    Place the drumsticks back on the rack and continue baking
    an additional 10 to 15 minutes.

    MILDER ALTERNATE SAUCE: whisk together 1 tablespoon maple
    syrup, 1 teaspoon hot sauce, juice and zest of 1 lime, 1
    clove of garlic, minced and some salt and pepper.

    FOR THE DIPPER: Whisk everything but the cheese together
    in a bowl until smooth. Add 1/2 ts of salt and fine
    ground pepper as you gently stir in the bleu cheese.
    Cover and refrigerate leftover dipper for use on salads.

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    MMMMM

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Sean Dennis on Mon Sep 30 14:04:51 2024
    Hi Sean,

    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Our rally was held not too far from the Bush facilities.

    You weren't too far away from me. I you remember where I lived when
    you stopped by and met me and my then-wife, I live about a mile
    further east from there now.

    I thought about you but didn't know exactly where you were. You would
    have enjoyed the rally but would have had a hard time getting home.


    There's an outlet store in Pigeon Forge, stopped there today and got an
    8 compartment scone pan, a 6 cup muffin pan and several small accessories--with a military discount spent less than $90.

    That's a fun place to go but a real pain to navigate through with a mobility scooter.

    True, sadly most places aren't scooter friendly.

    I love to go to the Steak 'N Shake across the street and visit Bucee's when I'm there in the area.

    We walked thru a Buckee's in the deep south, forget if it was LA or AL
    last year. Didn't spend any money but fun to see all they had. (They
    didn't have thimbles, my collectable. Couldn't find one in PF either,
    but didn't check many stores because of the weather.) One will be coming
    to central NC in the next few years.

    I couldn't find a recipe I liked to go with this message, so I found
    one on the Web and added it to my collection...


    Title: Buc-ee's Copycat Beaver Nuggets
    Categories: Snacks, Candies, Seandennis
    Yield: 32 Servings

    10 oz Puffed corn
    3/4 c Unsalted butter
    1 c Firmly packed light brown
    - sugar
    1/2 c Light corn syrup
    1/2 t Salt
    1 t Baking soda
    1 t Vanilla extract
    1 t Maple extract (optional)

    Unfortunatly, they're a "no go" for Steve because of the corn. I might
    try a few, if someone is sharing a bag, but probably wouldn't buy any
    for myself.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Mon Sep 30 14:13:17 2024
    Hi Dave,


    Our rally was held not too far from the Bush facilities. Had we not had the tire problem and bad weather, we might have visited it. Made it
    home yesterday, spent the night in Greensboro, NC so we were out of western NC before the closing of I-40 and other roads. As is, it took twice as long to get home as the drive usually is, hard rain for most
    of the way until we got to this side of Durham.

    Good to hear you made it home OK, if a bit damp. I guess Ashville got hammered hard.

    Asheville and everything west of it, also somewhat east of it. It'll be
    a long time before search and rescue teams make it thru all the hills
    and hollers of that area. Have a friend whose an EMT out there, working
    24/7 with just a few hours off between shifts.


    The whole thing was sponsored by former Springfield Mayor and then
    State Senator Karen Hasara. You can read the story here: https://tinyurl.com/CHILLINAME

    OK, might give it a look/see when we get back home and resettled.

    Take your time, It's not going anywhere. Bv)=

    We're home, but not resettled. Got the basics done but will do the rest over the next few days.

    8<----- SNIP ----->8

    Good story to pass on to Grandkids. (G)

    There's an outlet store in Pigeon Forge, stopped there today and got an
    8 compartment scone pan, a 6 cup muffin pan and several small accessories--with a military discount spent less than $90.

    Scones is something I've never made or knowingly eaten. That is I may
    have had a scone at some time without knowing it was called a scone.
    Bv)=

    They are usually triangular in shape, sort of like a biscuit but more flavorful. We make an oatmeal based scone from a booklet we got from Quaker Oats several decades ago.

    Readig the recipe below - I may have mis-spoken about not having had a scone. If, in fact, these are scones and not panquakes, as the recipe author suggests.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: St. Swithin's Drop Scones
    Categories: Five, Breads
    Yield: 4 Servings

    4 1/2 oz Self-raising flour
    2 ts Caster sugar
    1 lg Egg; beaten
    2 tb Melted unsalted butter
    150 ml Semi-skimmed milk

    Whisk that all up and leave it for a while to be with
    its thoughts. In the meantime peel, core and slice
    (thickly) two large English Bramley apples. Put these in
    a wide heavy based pan with about 4 tbspns of butter and
    the same of sugar (I favour caster but you might want
    something darker), and a little water. Cook over a low
    heat until the apples start to break down and it all
    starts to thicken and caramelise. Avoid stirring as it
    will make the sugar crystalise and the apples break up -
    it's nice to have some chunks. Lightly shake the pan
    instead. You can do all this in advance and then leave
    it.

    When ready to make the scones (if you're American you
    might want to call them pancakes) heat a pan/griddle
    relatively hot and use a little butter or light oil
    (less is more here). Then drop in tablespoons of the
    batter and wait until bubbles form, then flip and leave
    for about 30 seconds. Then plate up.


    Actually, they do look more like pancakes. Scones are usually about the thickness of a biscuit, traditionally wedge shaped. The ones we make
    taste like an oatmeal cookie, but much denser.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Mon Sep 30 14:20:46 2024
    Hi Dave,

    de gallo, really) competition. The hung around to see the free
    grandstand show that evening. Three Dog Night was playing - with all
    but one of its orifinal musicians ... and the one not there was
    pushing up daisies instead of touring - mostly because he got his
    lunch in a traffic mishap.

    Must have been fun to see the show. I would enjoy a Peter, Paul and
    Mary concert but it's down to a duo now. Saw an interview with Paul on
    PBS 5 years ago when I was recouperating from the knee surgery--quite interesting. He was to have a concert in Durham that night but there
    was no way we could have gone.

    I was there with my boss - who kept complaining "That's not the way it sounded on the record." And I had to keep reminding him that "This is LIVE. No post-production enhancements or edits." Bv)= Still, I
    enjoyed the show. And the price was right - free.

    Some people are happiest when they have something to complain about, no
    matter how petty.


    Here's that chilli recipe and I'm going away.

    Title: 1975 ICS World Championship Winning Chilli
    Categories: Five, Beef, Vegetables, Chilies, Stews
    Yield: 3 Servings

    1 lb Ground beef
    1 oz Pkg Chilli Man Chilli Mix *
    8 oz Can Hunts tomato sauce
    ds Tabasco sauce

    Brown ground beef in heavy skillet. Stir in contents of
    chilli mix and add tomato sauce. Simmer for 1 hour and add
    Tabasco.

    * Joe DeFrates originally developed the Chilli Man Mix
    (the Illinois spelling of Chilli) and sold it, packaged,
    under that name from the 1950s until he sold the recipe to
    the Milnot Co. of Litchfield, IL, in the 1970s. It is
    available today in most midwestern states under the
    original name. The actual ingredients of the chilli mix are
    not available.

    I've not seen it but we've not usually done any grocery shopping in the midwest. We're usually well stocked, either just on our way out west or within a couple of days of getting home and eating down the pantry & fridge.

    Chilli Man used to be sold out east. When I was trucking I hauled more than one semi-load to grocer warehouses including Winn-Dixie and
    Malone & Hyde.

    A FURTHER NOTE: You can believe that this is the actual
    recipe if you like. But, no chilli cook *ever* gives out
    the exact recipe that he used. And the original chilli
    spice mix that Joe probably did use is no longer
    available - so, use Gebhardt or Mexene or whatever your
    favourite is. - UDD

    I usually don't use a mix--do my own mix of whatever peppers I have on hand plus onions, meat and tomato whatevers.

    I use Baron's 5640 mix whichj I buy from a local restaurant supply. I
    tart it up with additional cumin, garlic, chilies, etc. But it's a
    nice starting spot.

    I rarely buy mixes for anything like that. Usually do my own home made
    for a lot of things, just tastes better to us in the long run.

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  • From Ben Collver@1:124/5016 to Ruth Haffly on Tue Oct 1 10:17:51 2024
    Re: Road Tripping [1]
    By: Ruth Haffly to Dave Drum on Mon Sep 30 2024 14:20:46

    Some people are happiest when they have something to complain about, no matter how petty.

    "I need my problems to distract me from my other problems."
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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Wed Oct 2 05:21:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Good to hear you made it home OK, if a bit damp. I guess Ashville got hammered hard.

    Asheville and everything west of it, also somewhat east of it. It'll be
    a long time before search and rescue teams make it thru all the hills
    and hollers of that area. Have a friend whose an EMT out there, working 24/7 with just a few hours off between shifts.

    I understand that an entire town was wiped from existence. As the old TV
    advert once said, "It's not nice to fool with Mother Nature.

    8<----- SNIP ----->8

    Good story to pass on to Grandkids. (G)

    There's an outlet store in Pigeon Forge, stopped there today and got an
    8 compartment scone pan, a 6 cup muffin pan and several small accessories--with a military discount spent less than $90.

    Scones is something I've never made or knowingly eaten. That is I may
    have had a scone at some time without knowing it was called a scone.
    Bv)=

    They are usually triangular in shape, sort of like a biscuit but more flavorful. We make an oatmeal based scone from a booklet we got from Quaker Oats several decades ago.

    Readig the recipe below - I may have mis-spoken about not having had a scone. If, in fact, these are scones and not panquakes, as the recipe author suggests.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: St. Swithin's Drop Scones
    Categories: Five, Breads
    Yield: 4 Servings

    4 1/2 oz Self-raising flour
    2 ts Caster sugar
    1 lg Egg; beaten
    2 tb Melted unsalted butter
    150 ml Semi-skimmed milk

    8<----- DIRECTIONS CHOPPED ----->8

    Actually, they do look more like pancakes. Scones are usually about the thickness of a biscuit, traditionally wedge shaped. The ones we make
    taste like an oatmeal cookie, but much denser.

    That's sorta what I thought. My house-mate really likes oatmeal-raisin
    cookies. Chewy or crunchy - he's not picky. I'm more a chocolate chip
    guy. Or Girl Sprout Thin Mints. Bv)=

    If the Girls are out of season (or sold out - they're very popular),
    Keebler's elves make a very nice substitute.

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    Title: Homemade Thin Mint Cookies
    Categories: Cookies, Snacks, Desserts, Chocolate
    Yield: 36 Servings

    1 c Butter; room temp
    1 c Powdered sugar
    1 ts Vanilla extract
    1 c Unsweetened cocoa powder
    3/4 ts Salt
    1 1/2 c Cake flour

    MMMMM--------------------------COATING-------------------------------
    1 lb Good quality semi-sweet
    - chocolate; chopped
    1 ts Peppermint extract; to
    - taste

    Cookie dough: In a mixer cream the butter until it is
    light and fluffy. Add the powdered sugar and continue to
    cream, scraping the sides of the bowl a couple times if
    necessary. Stir in the vanilla extract, salt, and cocoa
    powder. Mix until the cocoa powder is integrated and the
    batter is smooth and creamy, resembling a thick frosting.
    Add the flour and mix just until the batter is no longer
    dusty looking but still a bit crumbly. Turn the dough out
    onto a clean counter, gather it into a ball, and knead it
    together into a nice, smooth mass. Divide the dough in 2,
    flatten into disks, and wrap in plastic wrap. Chill for 15
    minutes.

    Rollout and bake: Preheat oven to 350ºF/175ºC. Roll dough
    out really thin, about 1/8". These are called thin mints
    after all. You can either roll it out between two sheets
    of plastic, or dust your counter and rolling pin with a
    bit of flour and do it that way. If the dough is too firm
    to roll you can microwave it for 5 seconds. Cut out
    cookies and bake for 10 minutes. Remove the cookies from
    the oven and allow them to cool completely on a wire rack.

    Make the peppermint coating: Meanwhile, prepare your
    chocolate coating. Using a double boiler, slowly melt the
    chocolate, stirring occasionally until it is glossy and
    smooth. You can add 1 tablespoon of shortening if your
    chocolate is too thick. Alternatively, use a microwave in
    short 15-20 second bursts to melt the chocolate. Stir in
    the peppermint extract.

    Finishing the cookies: Using a fork gently drop the
    cookies one at a time into the chocolate coating. Flip to
    coat all sides. Lift the cookie out of the chocolate with
    the fork and bang the fork on the side of the pan to drain
    any extra chocolate off the cookie. You are after a thin,
    even coating of chocolate. Place on a parchment lined
    baking sheet, and repeat for the rest of the cookies.
    Place the cookies in the refrigerator or freezer to set.

    Makes 30 to 40 cookies (1 serving)

    From: http://www.inkatrinaskitchen.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Ben Collver on Wed Oct 2 12:17:10 2024
    Hi Ben,

    Re: Road Tripping [1]
    By: Ruth Haffly to Dave Drum on Mon Sep 30 2024 14:20:46

    Some people are happiest when they have something to complain about, no matter how petty.

    "I need my problems to distract me from my other problems."

    Seems that's the way things go sometimes.

    ---
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    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Wed Oct 2 12:31:40 2024
    Hi Dave,


    Good to hear you made it home OK, if a bit damp. I guess Ashville got hammered hard.

    Asheville and everything west of it, also somewhat east of it. It'll be
    a long time before search and rescue teams make it thru all the hills
    and hollers of that area. Have a friend whose an EMT out there, working 24/7 with just a few hours off between shifts.

    I understand that an entire town was wiped from existence. As the old
    TV advert once said, "It's not nice to fool with Mother Nature.

    You're probably thinking of Chimney Rock, the most well known of the
    touristy towns in that area. Sadly, a number of smaller towns, homes,
    roads, etc have been wiped out; the known death toll is about 45, with
    more to be added. I-26 and !-40 (east of Asheville) have reopened for
    evacuees and help coming in but a lot of the smaller roads are still impassible, as is I-40, especially near the Tennesee line. We made it
    out with a few hours to spare. Overhead highway signs were warning that
    any vehicles left on the shoulders after 4pm would be towed; these
    warning continued some distance east of Asheville but had stopped before Greensboro, where we stopped for the night.

    8<----- SNIP ----->8

    Readig the recipe below - I may have mis-spoken about not having had a scone. If, in fact, these are scones and not panquakes, as the recipe author suggests.


    Title: St. Swithin's Drop Scones
    Categories: Five, Breads
    Yield: 4 Servings

    4 1/2 oz Self-raising flour
    2 ts Caster sugar
    1 lg Egg; beaten
    2 tb Melted unsalted butter
    150 ml Semi-skimmed milk

    8<----- DIRECTIONS CHOPPED ----->8

    Actually, they do look more like pancakes. Scones are usually about the thickness of a biscuit, traditionally wedge shaped. The ones we make
    taste like an oatmeal cookie, but much denser.

    That's sorta what I thought. My house-mate really likes oatmeal-raisin cookies. Chewy or crunchy - he's not picky. I'm more a chocolate chip
    guy. Or Girl Sprout Thin Mints. Bv)=

    If the Girls are out of season (or sold out - they're very popular), Keebler's elves make a very nice substitute.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Homemade Thin Mint Cookies
    Categories: Cookies, Snacks, Desserts, Chocolate
    Yield: 36 Servings

    1 c Butter; room temp
    1 c Powdered sugar
    1 ts Vanilla extract
    1 c Unsweetened cocoa powder
    3/4 ts Salt
    1 1/2 c Cake flour

    MMMMM--------------------------COATING-------------------------------
    1 lb Good quality semi-sweet
    - chocolate; chopped
    1 ts Peppermint extract; to
    - taste

    I'd use half vanilla, half peppermint extract in the cookie part to ramp
    up the mint taste. (G)

    ---
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    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Fri Oct 4 05:17:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Hi Dave,


    Good to hear you made it home OK, if a bit damp. I guess Ashville got hammered hard.

    Asheville and everything west of it, also somewhat east of it. It'll be
    a long time before search and rescue teams make it thru all the hills
    and hollers of that area. Have a friend whose an EMT out there, working 24/7 with just a few hours off between shifts.

    I understand that an entire town was wiped from existence. As the old
    TV advert once said, "It's not nice to fool with Mother Nature.

    You're probably thinking of Chimney Rock, the most well known of the touristy towns in that area. Sadly, a number of smaller towns, homes, roads, etc have been wiped out; the known death toll is about 45, with more to be added. I-26 and !-40 (east of Asheville) have reopened for evacuees and help coming in but a lot of the smaller roads are still impassible, as is I-40, especially near the Tennesee line. We made it
    out with a few hours to spare. Overhead highway signs were warning that any vehicles left on the shoulders after 4pm would be towed; these
    warning continued some distance east of Asheville but had stopped
    before Greensboro, where we stopped for the night.

    No, it wasn't Chimney Rock. I think that was the "Dirty Dancing" town,
    IIRC. It was another whose name I have senior momented. I'd have known
    Chimney Rock. Whatecer, it's a mess.

    8<----- SNIP ----->8

    Readig the recipe below - I may have mis-spoken about not having had a scone. If, in fact, these are scones and not panquakes, as the recipe author suggests.


    Title: St. Swithin's Drop Scones
    Categories: Five, Breads
    Yield: 4 Servings

    4 1/2 oz Self-raising flour
    2 ts Caster sugar
    1 lg Egg; beaten
    2 tb Melted unsalted butter
    150 ml Semi-skimmed milk

    8<----- DIRECTIONS CHOPPED ----->8

    Actually, they do look more like pancakes. Scones are usually about the thickness of a biscuit, traditionally wedge shaped. The ones we make
    taste like an oatmeal cookie, but much denser.

    That's sorta what I thought. My house-mate really likes oatmeal-raisin cookies. Chewy or crunchy - he's not picky. I'm more a chocolate chip
    guy. Or Girl Sprout Thin Mints. Bv)=

    If the Girls are out of season (or sold out - they're very popular), Keebler's elves make a very nice substitute.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Homemade Thin Mint Cookies
    Categories: Cookies, Snacks, Desserts, Chocolate
    Yield: 36 Servings

    1 c Butter; room temp
    1 c Powdered sugar
    1 ts Vanilla extract
    1 c Unsweetened cocoa powder
    3/4 ts Salt
    1 1/2 c Cake flour

    MMMMM--------------------------COATING-------------------------------
    1 lb Good quality semi-sweet
    - chocolate; chopped
    1 ts Peppermint extract; to
    - taste

    I'd use half vanilla, half peppermint extract in the cookie part to
    ramp up the mint taste. (G)

    Good idea. Here's a sconme recipe that just fell into my clutches and
    looks line biscuits. These may just jump onto my "round tuit" list.

    MMMMM---- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Potato Pete's Potato Scones
    Categories: Breads, Potatoes, Vegetables, Chocolate
    Yield: 6 servings

    MMMMM--------------------------SCONES--------------------------------
    Oil; for greasing
    1 1/3 c (170 g) A-P flour; more for
    - dusting
    2 tb Sugar
    2 ts Baking powder
    1/2 ts Salt
    1/2 c (113 g) leftover mashed
    - potatoes
    2 tb Butter; in chunks, room temp
    3 tb (to 5tb) milk; + extra for
    - glazing

    NNNNN---------------------SWEET FILLING *----------------------------
    3 tb Unsweetened cocoa powder
    3 1/2 tb Butter; room temp
    1 tb Sugar
    1 ts Milk

    NNNNN--------------------SAVORY FILLING *----------------------------
    1 c (30 g) grated cabbage
    2/3 c (30 g) grated carrots
    2 tb Onion chutney

    * enough for 6 Sandwiches

    PREPARE THE SCONES: Grease a large baking sheet. Set the
    oven @ 400oF/205oC.

    Sift the flour, sugar, baking powder and salt into a
    large bowl. Add the mashed potatoes and mix well. Rub in
    the margarine or butter with your fingers, then add 3
    tablespoons of the milk and gently work to form a soft
    dough, adding 1 or 2 more tablespoons of milk, if
    needed.

    On a floured surface, using a lightly floured rolling
    pin, roll out the dough until it's about 1/3" thick.
    Cut into 12 circles using a 2" cookie cutter. Brush
    the tops with just enough additional milk to glaze.

    Transfer the scones to the prepared baking sheet,
    setting them about 1 1/2" apart, and bake until golden
    on top, about 15 minutes. Transfer to a wire rack to
    cool.

    MAKE YOUR DESIRED FILLING: For the sweet filling, in a
    small bowl, mix together the cocoa powder, margarine,
    sugar and milk thoroughly. For the savory filling,
    loosely combine the cabbage, carrots and chutney.

    Make the sandwiches: Once the scones have cooled, divide
    your desired filling among half the scones and top with
    the remaining scones to form sandwiches.

    Recipe from: Eleanor Barnett

    Adapted by: Ligaya Mishan

    Yield: 6 scone sandwiches

    RECIPE FROM: https://cooking.nytimes.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Fri Oct 4 13:52:32 2024
    Hi Dave,


    I understand that an entire town was wiped from existence. As the old
    TV advert once said, "It's not nice to fool with Mother Nature.

    You're probably thinking of Chimney Rock, the most well known of the touristy towns in that area. Sadly, a number of smaller towns, homes, roads, etc have been wiped out; the known death toll is about 45, with more to be added. I-26 and !-40 (east of Asheville) have reopened for evacuees and help coming in but a lot of the smaller roads are still impassible, as is I-40, especially near the Tennesee line. We made it
    out with a few hours to spare. Overhead highway signs were warning that any vehicles left on the shoulders after 4pm would be towed; these
    warning continued some distance east of Asheville but had stopped
    before Greensboro, where we stopped for the night.

    No, it wasn't Chimney Rock. I think that was the "Dirty Dancing" town, IIRC. It was another whose name I have senior momented. I'd have known Chimney Rock. Whatecer, it's a mess.

    Lake Lure was the "Dirty Dancing" lake/town, stand in for the Catskills.
    The dam in that area was (that) far from giving out; it didn't but there
    was a lot of debris in the lake from upstream. That area is going to
    take years to recover.


    8<----- SNIP ----->8

    MMMMM--------------------------COATING-------------------------------
    1 lb Good quality semi-sweet
    - chocolate; chopped
    1 ts Peppermint extract; to
    - taste

    I'd use half vanilla, half peppermint extract in the cookie part to
    ramp up the mint taste. (G)

    Good idea. Here's a sconme recipe that just fell into my clutches and looks line biscuits. These may just jump onto my "round tuit" list.


    Title: Potato Pete's Potato Scones
    Categories: Breads, Potatoes, Vegetables, Chocolate
    Yield: 6 servings


    Now those do look more like scones, tho scones usually don't have
    filling. Clotted cream or jam arre the traditional British toppings.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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