• SOS

    From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to All on Sat Feb 10 07:35:00 2024
    I've been watching too many war miniseries and military cooking
    re-enactments on YouTube, and felt compelled to make creamed chipped
    beef on toast. My local grocery store had the requisite dried, shredded
    beef, then it was a matter of making a country gravy with butter, milk,
    flour and cayenne pepper, and stirring chopped beef until it reduces.
    Serve on "hot" toast, according to the 1910 recipe I found.

    It answers the question - how do I make biscuits and gravy without
    biscuits or sausage?

    With no added salt, it was still very salty due to the beef. I tried
    rinsing the beef in water with the second batch and it ended up
    tasteless.

    I think once was enough. Now I want a real country gravy with sausage
    and sage on a proper biscuit.



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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Kurt Weiske on Mon Feb 12 06:30:00 2024
    Kurt Weiske wrote to All <=-

    I've been watching too many war miniseries and military cooking re-enactments on YouTube, and felt compelled to make creamed chipped
    beef on toast. My local grocery store had the requisite dried, shredded beef, then it was a matter of making a country gravy with butter, milk, flour and cayenne pepper, and stirring chopped beef until it reduces. Serve on "hot" toast, according to the 1910 recipe I found.

    It answers the question - how do I make biscuits and gravy without biscuits or sausage?

    With no added salt, it was still very salty due to the beef. I tried rinsing the beef in water with the second batch and it ended up
    tasteless.

    I think once was enough. Now I want a real country gravy with sausage
    and sage on a proper biscuit.

    Here's the recipe I use for S.O.S. it's neither too salty nor bland if
    you rinse the beef as called out in the directions.

    B&G is an entirely different thing. Bv)= I can supply my recipe for
    that is you'd like.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Creamed Chipped Beef *
    Categories: Beef, Dairy, Breads
    Yield: 4 Servings

    2 tb Butter
    2 tb A-P flour
    1 1/2 c Milk **
    2 1/4 oz Jar ARMOUR STAR Sliced Dried
    - Beef; rinsed, chopped
    1/2 ts Prepared yellow mustard
    8 sl White bread; toasted

    * Known in the US military services worldwide as
    Foreskins on Toast

    ** or Half & Half

    Melt butter in saucepan. Add flour and cook 1 minute.
    Add milk all at once. Cook and stir until thickened
    and bubbly. Add beef and mustard and heat through.

    Serve over toast with a side of corned beef hash.

    Makes 1 1/2 cups

    FROM: http://www.armour-star.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to Dave Drum on Mon Feb 12 06:31:00 2024
    Dave Drum wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

    B&G is an entirely different thing. Bv)= I can supply my recipe for
    that is you'd like.


    I'd be happy to see yours, but I have a tried and true recipe in my
    head. I make it at my family's cabin, around 7200 feet elevation. That
    high, you get very fluffy biscuits.


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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Kurt Weiske on Mon Feb 12 16:36:00 2024
    Kurt Weiske wrote to All <=-

    I've been watching too many war miniseries and military cooking re-enactments on YouTube, and felt compelled to make creamed chipped
    beef on toast.

    Real SOS is good stuff. The Army liked to cut corners hence its adopted
    name. I easpecially like it on toasted sourdough bread.

    With no added salt, it was still very salty due to the beef. I tried rinsing the beef in water with the second batch and it ended up
    tasteless.

    I don't know if you could source locally-made chipped beef that would be
    less processed.

    I think once was enough. Now I want a real country gravy with sausage
    and sage on a proper biscuit.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Sos
    Categories: Misc, Breakfast
    Yield: 2 Servings

    1/4 lb Ground beef
    1 tb Flour
    8 oz Milk
    Salt and pepper to taste
    4 x Slices of toast

    Brown ground beef in skillet. Remove all but 2 - 3 tables of fat.
    Move meat to the side and mix in flour until smooth and brown. Add
    milk, salt and pepper. Bring to a boil and stir until it reaches the
    thickness you prefer. Serve over hot buttered toast.

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Dave Drum on Mon Feb 12 16:39:42 2024
    Dave Drum wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

    Title: Creamed Chipped Beef *
    * Known in the US military services worldwide as
    Foreskins on Toast

    Hah! I always heard it referred to as SoS (S**t On A Shingle).

    Surprisingly enough, my mess hall didn't make it that often.

    I'd not call this SOS myself:

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Sos in Red Sauce
    Categories: Sos
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1 lb Ground chuck
    1/4 c Chopped green peppers
    16 oz Tomato sauce
    1 Garlic
    1/2 c Chopped onions
    3 Sugar
    2 Salt
    1 Pepper

    1. Brown ground chuck in a skillet. Drain. 2. Add onions and green
    peppers. Cook until tender. Add garlic. 3. Cook 2 more minutes and
    add the rest of the ingredients. 4. Simmer for 15 minutes. 5. Serve
    hot over toast, rolls, or muffins.

    From the recipe collection of Mike Orchekowski. File
    ftp://ftp.idiscover.co.uk/pub/food/mealmaster/recipes/ms-sos.zip

    MMMMM

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Kurt Weiske on Tue Feb 13 04:58:00 2024
    Kurt Weiske wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Dave Drum wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

    B&G is an entirely different thing. Bv)= I can supply my recipe for
    that is you'd like.


    I'd be happy to see yours, but I have a tried and true recipe in my
    head. I make it at my family's cabin, around 7200 feet elevation. That
    high, you get very fluffy biscuits.

    Here's mine - tried and true. I find that in B&G the simpler the better.

    To that end I've MMed a 2 ingredient biscuit recipe from Taste of Home
    that I'm going to audition soon.

    Two recipes follow:

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Mr. Breakfast's Biscuits
    Categories: Five, Breads, Dairy
    Yield: 10 Servings

    8 tb Unsalted butter; cold
    2 tb Shortening; cold *
    3 c Unbleached self-rising flour
    1 1/2 c Buttermilk; cold
    Extra slivers of butter or
    - cream for moistening and
    - brushing

    * Lard works, too. - UDD

    Adjust oven rack to middle position and set oven @
    450|+F/230|+C.

    Cut shortening and butter into dry ingredients with a
    pastry cutter, or two forks, until it looks like coarse
    meal. Return bowl to the freezer or refrigerator if butter
    becomes warm.

    Stir in milk with a large fork or rubber spatula. Once
    dough starts to clump, bring it into a ball with your
    hands, pressing it into bottom of bowl to pick up scraps.
    If dough doesn't come together, sprinkle in a little more
    milk, and continue pressing on scraps until they
    incorporate.

    On a lightly floured surface, press dough into a rough
    square, then roll out into a about 3/4 in thick. Try to
    handle as little as possible and mix just enough to bring
    the dough together.

    Roll dough out.

    Use a 2" biscuit cutter to cut dough into rounds and place
    about a 1/2" together in a cake pan or 1" apart on baking
    sheet. How far apart you bake them gives you a different
    kind of edge, so experiment. I like my edges soft so I put
    them pretty close together and they end up touching each
    other when finished baking.

    Place a small sliver of butter on the top of each biscuit
    or brush the tops with melted butter or cream.

    Bake until golden brown 12-15 minutes.

    NOTE: If you can't get self-rising flour, use 4 teaspoons
    baking powder and 1 and 1/2 teaspoons salt. You can also
    use regular milk, if necessary, but add it slowly because
    the amount may be less. These go really well with sausage
    or tomato gravy.

    From: http://www.mrbreakfast.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Dutch Oven Sausage Gravy
    Categories: Five, Pork, Dairy
    Yield: 1 Batch

    1 1/2 lb Breakfast sausage
    2 c A-P flour
    4 c Milk
    2 c Water
    Salt & coarse ground pepper

    Brown sausage in Dutch oven. Add milk and while milk is
    still cool, mix flour and water thoroughly and add to
    milk. Stir constantly as it thickens to desired texture.
    Salt and pepper. Serve over biscuits.

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Sean Dennis on Tue Feb 13 05:38:00 2024
    Sean Dennis wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Title: Creamed Chipped Beef *
    * Known in the US military services worldwide as
    Foreskins on Toast

    Hah! I always heard it referred to as SoS (S**t On A Shingle).

    Surprisingly enough, my mess hall didn't make it that often.

    I'd not call this SOS myself:

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Sos in Red Sauce
    Categories: Sos
    Yield: 4 Servings

    Nor I. Looks more akin to sloppy joe in one of its many iterations. Or
    possibly slumgullion.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Dirty Dave's Slumgullion
    Categories: Beef, Pork, Vegetables, Pasta
    Yield: 3 Servings

    1 lb Ground meat
    1 md Onion; diced small
    14 1/2 oz Can diced or stewed tomatoes
    8 oz Can tomato sauce (I use El
    - Pato if I want it zippy)
    1 c Elbow macaroni; heaping
    1 ts Salt
    1/4 ts Pepper

    In a large skillet, cook ground meat and onions. When meat
    is no longer pink, drain excess grease.

    In another pan, cook macaroni. Crush the tomatoes (if
    using stewed) and add them along with the sauce, macaroni,
    salt and pepper to the meat and onions in the skillet. Let
    the whole mixture simmer until some of the juice from the
    tomatoes cooks away.

    Feeds 3-4 people.

    This basic recipe has been in my family for years. I have
    eaten "Slum" since I was a child. You can toss in some
    sliced mushrooms if you wish.

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to Carol Shenkenberger on Thu Feb 15 08:16:00 2024
    Carol Shenkenberger wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

    I always heard what you said on Army SOS. At the start of the gulf war (post 9-11), the higher ups were worried about the FDNF Navy having
    enough Marines to go with us for missions, so they tested Army folks
    with us.

    They raved about the chow! They'd alway 'heard' it was good but the eperience of reality blew them away. SOS was one of them.

    There's a depressing video on YouTube showing one of the chow halls in
    the middle east. It looked like stale buns, dry hamburger patties, lots
    of pre-packaged foods and a ton of waste. Contrast with a navy video of
    cooking on a carrier - now that's cooking at scale!



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