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    From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sat Jan 6 10:05:02 2024
    Hi Dave,

    I'm going to do it the evening before trash day so it doesn't have
    time to take over the wheelie bin. Or attract raccooons, tree rats and opossums.

    Sounds good; our trash day is Friday but because of the holiday, pushed
    to Saturday again this week. I've done the "clean out the fridge" thing the night before also.

    Ours did the same - except our usual day is Wednesday. I use Waste Management (because they're union) who e-mails me a "heads up" before every holidays which changes their usual schedule.

    I'm pretty sure we use those folks too. Town of WF contracts with them
    and their fee is included in our water/sewer bill. The WF town web site
    and local newspaper publish their holiday schedule but we can usually
    figure on a week with a federal holiday, trash pick up will be a day
    later. Green waste is usually picked up sometime during the week, after
    the Monday holiday.

    8<----- EDIT -----.8

    Most farms these days are strictly "ca$h grain" and the farmers shop
    at stupormarkups. Our family farm rotated crops between corn, soybeans, wheat, oats, alfalfa, rye and sorghum (a relative of corn). And we had
    a small orchard with apples, peaches, apricots and paw-paw trees. The

    My dad planted a couple of gardens for family eating. Mom canned a lot, then got a freezer in 1973. Dad usually put in rhubarb, sweet corn, lettuce, beets, carrots, yellow wax beans and tomatoes when I was
    growing up, later added brussels sprouts and a couple of other veggies.
    He had a small (6?) vines for grapes, on the property also had a couple
    of apple trees and a pear tree. Neighbor's property had blackberry
    bushes we had free picking on, strawberries were wild (but not
    abundant) on both properties.

    When I was still a pre-teen I used that garden for summer income. I
    had an iron wheeled pushcart which I loaded with freshly picked
    produce. I had tomatoes, both green and wax beans, radishes, carrots, cucumbers, sweet corn, popcorn, cabbages muskmelon and asparagus ....
    all "in
    season". At that time (early 1950s) most wives were "house" wives. And they knew when they heard the iron wheels on the sidewalk that I had
    just picked vegetables on offer at good prices.

    Dad also planted cucumbers, only way Mom used them was in a mild pickle
    (about half and half water and vinegar with a bit of sugar and celery
    seed). Between his fussy eating an her non creative cooking, we were fed
    but it wasn't until I went to college, then got married, that I found
    out about a wider range of foods. Joining the echo here expanded my cooking/eating horizons even more.


    Railroad dining car galleys are, of necessity, very tight quarters.
    And they put out some amazing dishes. Airlines, OTOH, use pre-made,
    nuked
    to serving temperature dishes for their in-flight offerings. If you've eaten airline food you'll know it's all lowest common denominator
    stuff.

    I've had airline food, think the last regular meal we had was coming
    back from Berlin in 1992.

    My first railroad meal was on the Rock Island Twin Cities Rocket
    and I was 14 years old. Roast Duckling w/Orange Sauce. I managed
    to get more of it in me than on me. Bv)=

    That's commendable. (G)

    Here's another bread recipe. I'll be making this again tonight for
    a potluck at my work tomorrow ...... well, one loaf. The other is
    going to get turned into Reuben sandwiches at home.


    Title: Rustic Rye Bread
    Categories: Breads
    Yield: 24 slices

    OK, my "standard" rye bread is the Pillsbury one, thanks to you digging
    up the recipe for me. I know I had it for years, but probably in one of
    our military moves it got thrown out or shredded with other papers.

    Next day--correction, we use Republic for trash pick up. Used to use
    Waste Management, have in other places but saw the Republic truck today,
    across the street.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Sun Jan 7 06:41:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I'm going to do it the evening before trash day so it doesn't have
    time to take over the wheelie bin. Or attract raccooons, tree rats and opossums.

    Sounds good; our trash day is Friday but because of the holiday, pushed
    to Saturday again this week. I've done the "clean out the fridge" thing the night before also.

    Ours did the same - except our usual day is Wednesday. I use Waste Management (because they're union) who e-mails me a "heads up" before every holidays which changes their usual schedule.

    I'm pretty sure we use those folks too. Town of WF contracts with them
    and their fee is included in our water/sewer bill. The WF town web site and local newspaper publish their holiday schedule but we can usually figure on a week with a federal holiday, trash pick up will be a day later. Green waste is usually picked up sometime during the week, after the Monday holiday.

    If you mean "recyclables" by "green waste" a separate company does that
    on contract to the city. They also do regular trash/garbage pickup but
    in regular 'garbage' trucks. The recycling trucks have compartments and
    there are different coloured totes for the resident to use. One for old
    plastic bottles, bags, etc. Another for old newsprint and cardboard and
    a third for metals.

    The company also maintains a recycling center where they accept sorted recyclables and buy aluminum cans for ca$h.

    8<----- EDIT -----.8

    season". At that time (early 1950s) most wives were "house" wives.
    And they knew when they heard the iron wheels on the sidewalk that
    I had just picked vegetables on offer at good prices.

    Dad also planted cucumbers, only way Mom used them was in a mild pickle (about half and half water and vinegar with a bit of sugar and celery seed). Between his fussy eating an her non creative cooking, we were
    fed but it wasn't until I went to college, then got married, that I
    found out about a wider range of foods. Joining the echo here expanded
    my cooking/eating horizons even more.

    Sounds like "bread & butter" pickles.

    Railroad dining car galleys are,
    Here's another bread recipe. I'll be making this again tonight for
    a potluck at my work tomorrow ...... well, one loaf. The other is
    going to get turned into Reuben sandwiches at home.

    Title: Rustic Rye Bread
    Categories: Breads
    Yield: 24 slices

    OK, my "standard" rye bread is the Pillsbury one, thanks to you digging
    up the recipe for me. I know I had it for years, but probably in one of our military moves it got thrown out or shredded with other papers.

    Next day--correction, we use Republic for trash pick up. Used to use
    Waste Management, have in other places but saw the Republic truck
    today, across the street.

    We have a choice of three companies. Waste Management, Republic and the
    one which does the recycling programme, plus regular trash pick-up and
    is locally owned, Lake Area Disposal. Lake Area uses white trucks, Waste Management uses green trucks and Republic's trucks are blue.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Bread & Butter Pickles
    Categories: Squash, Vegetables, Preserving
    Yield: 2 Quarts

    8 md Cucumbers; in 1/6" slices
    1 md Yellow onion; thin sliced
    1 Clove garlic; thin sliced
    1/2 Red bell pepper; stemmed,
    Seeded, thin sliced
    1/2 Bell pepper; stemmed, seeded
    Thin sliced
    2 tb Kosher salt
    1 2/3 c Sugar
    1 c Cider vinegar
    1 1/2 ts Brown mustard seeds
    1/2 ts Celery seed
    1/2 ts Ground turmeric

    Combine cucumbers, onion, garlic, and peppers in a large
    bowl and sprinkle with salt; add 2 cups cracked ice, and
    toss together. Let sit for 3 hours. Transfer vegetables
    to a colander, and rinse lightly with cold water. Divide
    vegetables between two 1-qt. glass jars with resealable
    lids and set aside.

    Bring sugar, vinegar, mustard and celery seeds, and
    turmeric to a boil in a 1-qt. saucepan; pour mixture
    evenly between jars and seal jars with lids. Let cool to
    room temperature and then store in refrigerator for up
    to 2 weeks.

    Yield: makes 2 QUARTS

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.saveur.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sun Jan 7 15:43:07 2024
    Hi Dave,

    Ours did the same - except our usual day is Wednesday. I use Waste Management (because they're union) who e-mails me a "heads up" before every holidays which changes their usual schedule.

    I'm pretty sure we use those folks too. Town of WF contracts with them
    and their fee is included in our water/sewer bill. The WF town web site and local newspaper publish their holiday schedule but we can usually figure on a week with a federal holiday, trash pick up will be a day later. Green waste is usually picked up sometime during the week, after the Monday holiday.

    If you mean "recyclables" by "green waste" a separate company does

    I should have said "yard waste" instead of "green waste" They're 2
    separate groups; yard waste is branches, clippings, etc and green waste
    is recylables. All are picked up by the same company; yard waste one
    day, green waste and trash (separate runs, same truck) usually the next
    day. Our recycle is co-mixed in the can and on the truck but in the
    house I separate paper from cans, bottles, etc.

    that on contract to the city. They also do regular trash/garbage
    pickup but DD> in regular 'garbage' trucks. The recycling trucks
    have compartments DD> and there are different coloured totes for the
    resident to use. One DD> for old plastic bottles, bags, etc. Another
    for old newsprint and DD> cardboard and a third for metals.

    The company also maintains a recycling center where they accept sorted recyclables and buy aluminum cans for ca$h.

    Those don't seem to exist around here; last one I remember was when we
    lived in AZ.

    8<----- EDIT -----.8

    season". At that time (early 1950s) most wives were "house" wives.
    And they knew when they heard the iron wheels on the sidewalk that
    I had just picked vegetables on offer at good prices.

    Dad also planted cucumbers, only way Mom used them was in a mild pickle (about half and half water and vinegar with a bit of sugar and celery seed). Between his fussy eating an her non creative cooking, we were
    fed but it wasn't until I went to college, then got married, that I
    found out about a wider range of foods. Joining the echo here expanded
    my cooking/eating horizons even more.

    Sounds like "bread & butter" pickles.

    Not really as there wasn't enough vinegar to make much of a pickle. B&B
    pickles have more spicing to them as well.


    Railroad dining car galleys are,
    Here's another bread recipe. I'll be making this again tonight for
    a potluck at my work tomorrow ...... well, one loaf. The other is
    going to get turned into Reuben sandwiches at home.

    Title: Rustic Rye Bread
    Categories: Breads
    Yield: 24 slices

    OK, my "standard" rye bread is the Pillsbury one, thanks to you digging
    up the recipe for me. I know I had it for years, but probably in one of our military moves it got thrown out or shredded with other papers.

    Next day--correction, we use Republic for trash pick up. Used to use
    Waste Management, have in other places but saw the Republic truck
    today, across the street.

    We have a choice of three companies. Waste Management, Republic and
    the one which does the recycling programme, plus regular trash pick-up
    and
    is locally owned, Lake Area Disposal. Lake Area uses white trucks,
    Waste Management uses green trucks and Republic's trucks are blue.

    Republic does our regular trash, recyle and yard waste. IIRC, Waste
    Management used to do the pick ups for the area but Raleigh (we're tied
    into them for water, sewer and trash) changed contracters a few years
    ago.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Tue Jan 9 08:06:46 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    If you mean "recyclables" by "green waste" a separate company does

    I should have said "yard waste" instead of "green waste" They're 2 separate groups; yard waste is branches, clippings, etc and green waste
    is recylables. All are picked up by the same company; yard waste one
    day, green waste and trash (separate runs, same truck) usually the next day. Our recycle is co-mixed in the can and on the truck but in the
    house I separate paper from cans, bottles, etc.

    OK, fair enough. The city picks up windfall tree limbs. etc. They must
    be placed at the curb. They announce in the paperrs and on several of
    the radio stations what day they'll be in which area of town.

    Yard waste is handled by one of the trash haulers on contract to the
    city. Leaves, clippings, etc. must be placed in special bags bought at
    hardware stores, lumber yards, and some grocery stores. Ooops, just
    looked at the requirements and that's not true any longer. "Grass
    clippings, leaves, weeds, plant trimmings and small twigs are
    considered yard waste and must be placed into paper lawn bags.
    Plastic bags or bags containing anything other than yard waste will
    not be collected."

    The mentioned places still sell the required bags with proceeds going
    to the city's yard waste program. But, you are allowed to "do your own
    thing" so long as it's not in plastic.


    8<----- EDIT -----.8

    Sounds like "bread & butter" pickles.

    Not really as there wasn't enough vinegar to make much of a pickle.
    B&B pickles have more spicing to them as well.

    IOW more like the "quick pickled" veg you might see at an Oriental
    restaurant.

    Railroad dining car galleys are,

    Here's another bread recipe. I'll be making this again tonight for
    a potluck at my work tomorrow ...... well, one loaf. The other is
    going to get turned into Reuben sandwiches at home.

    Title: Rustic Rye Bread
    Categories: Breads
    Yield: 24 slices

    OK, my "standard" rye bread is the Pillsbury one, thanks to you digging
    up the recipe for me. I know I had it for years, but probably in one of our military moves it got thrown out or shredded with other papers.

    Next day--correction, we use Republic for trash pick up. Used to use
    Waste Management, have in other places but saw the Republic truck
    today, across the street.

    We have a choice of three companies. Waste Management, Republic and
    the one which does the recycling programme, plus regular trash pick-up
    and is locally owned, Lake Area Disposal. Lake Area uses white trucks, Waste Management uses green trucks and Republic's trucks are blue.

    Republic does our regular trash, recyle and yard waste. IIRC, Waste Management used to do the pick ups for the area but Raleigh (we're tied into them for water, sewer and trash) changed contracters a few years
    ago.

    Our three companies cover the whole area. Some of my neighbours use Lake
    Area, some use Republic, and some use WM. You can tell from the colour of
    the wheelie bin at the curb. Bv)=

    Speaking of yead waste .... you might want to replave the beer in this
    recipe with mushroom stock or vegemte/marmite mixed w/water.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Backyard's Ranch Beans
    Categories: Beans, Beer, Pork, Chilies
    Yield: 24 Servings

    4 lb Pintos; dry
    2 md Onions; minced
    1 Head garlic; minced
    1 lb Bacon; cooked, drained,
    - diced small
    3 oz Worcestershire sauce
    12 oz Shiner Bock beer
    2 md Jalapenos; seeded, minced
    4 tb Gebhardt's chilli powder
    1 tb Cumin
    3 tb Molasses
    Salt

    Soak beans overnight. Cook until tender and drain.
    Simmer remaining ingredients until onions are clear,
    about 15-20 minutes, over medium heat in a saucepan.
    Add cooked beans and simmer 20-30 minutes.

    Salt to taste.

    This makes a big pot of beans.

    Can be halved or quartered.

    Recipe By: The Backyard Restaurant

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Tue Jan 9 14:01:52 2024
    Hi Dave,


    I should have said "yard waste" instead of "green waste" They're 2 separate groups; yard waste is branches, clippings, etc and green waste
    is recylables. All are picked up by the same company; yard waste one
    day, green waste and trash (separate runs, same truck) usually the next day. Our recycle is co-mixed in the can and on the truck but in the
    house I separate paper from cans, bottles, etc.

    OK, fair enough. The city picks up windfall tree limbs. etc. They must
    be placed at the curb. They announce in the paperrs and on several of
    the radio stations what day they'll be in which area of town.

    Our yard waste is a weekly thing but if there's a need (major storm
    bringing down trees, etc), they will make more runs thruout the week to
    pick up stuff.


    Yard waste is handled by one of the trash haulers on contract to the
    city. Leaves, clippings, etc. must be placed in special bags bought at hardware stores, lumber yards, and some grocery stores. Ooops, just
    looked at the requirements and that's not true any longer. "Grass clippings, leaves, weeds, plant trimmings and small twigs are
    considered yard waste and must be placed into paper lawn bags.
    Plastic bags or bags containing anything other than yard waste will
    not be collected."

    Our former recycle can is our yard waste can. A few years ago the town
    offered upsized recycle cans (now same size as regular) with the proviso
    that the old can be designated yard waste. Since we usually have a good
    amount of recycles, we took advantage of it and still sometimes have to
    put out loose yard waste as well as the can full. We can use plastic
    bags for regular trash but recycles and yard waste must be loose and
    meet certain length restrictions.

    8<----- EDIT -----.8

    Sounds like "bread & butter" pickles.

    Not really as there wasn't enough vinegar to make much of a pickle.
    B&B pickles have more spicing to them as well.

    IOW more like the "quick pickled" veg you might see at an Oriental restaurant.

    These were barely pickled, just a bit of crunch/crisp and touch of
    vinegar flavor added.

    Republic does our regular trash, recyle and yard waste. IIRC, Waste Management used to do the pick ups for the area but Raleigh (we're tied into them for water, sewer and trash) changed contracters a few years
    ago.

    Our three companies cover the whole area. Some of my neighbours use
    Lake Area, some use Republic, and some use WM. You can tell from the colour of the wheelie bin at the curb. Bv)=

    Speaking of yead waste .... you might want to replave the beer in this recipe with mushroom stock or vegemte/marmite mixed w/water.

    I would definatly replace it, with maybe a bit of beef broth/stock.


    Title: Backyard's Ranch Beans
    Categories: Beans, Beer, Pork, Chilies
    Yield: 24 Servings


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Thu Jan 11 05:51:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Our yard waste is a weekly thing but if there's a need (major storm bringing down trees, etc), they will make more runs thruout the week to pick up stuff.

    During the fall (leaf season) there is more frequency of pick ups. And
    if you have need to get rid of the waste before the scheduled pickup
    there is a facility between the city and the airport where you may take
    your bags and they will be accepted for the compost pile..

    The facility, Evans Recycling, also sells firewood, fill dirt, garening
    soil, mulch, etc.

    http://tinyurl.com/DIRT-DEED

    8<----- EDIT -----.8

    Speaking of yead waste .... you might want to replave the beer in
    this recipe with mushroom stock or vegemte/marmite mixed w/water.

    I would definatly replace it, with maybe a bit of beef broth/stock.

    Title: Backyard's Ranch Beans
    Categories: Beans, Beer, Pork, Chilies
    Yield: 24 Servings

    As long as it's not sweet. The beer, Shiner Bock, is "well-hopped? and therefore bitter. Which is why I suggest the replacements that I did.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Mark Bittman's Mushroom Stock
    Categories: Five, Mushrooms, Vegetables, Sauces
    Yield: 6 cups

    1 lb Button mushrooms; trimmed
    3 Dried porcini
    Some onion, carrot or celery
    - (optional)

    Toss a pound of trimmed button mushrooms and a few dried
    porcini into 6 cups water. It need not be more complex
    than this, but adding some onion, carrot or celery makes
    it even better.

    Bring to a boil, and simmer.

    Strain the mushrooms out if you like, but make sure to
    use them for something.

    By: Mark Bittman

    RECIPE FROM: https://cooking.nytimes.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Thu Jan 11 12:16:35 2024
    Hi Dave,

    During the fall (leaf season) there is more frequency of pick ups. And
    if you have need to get rid of the waste before the scheduled pickup
    there is a facility between the city and the airport where you may
    take your bags and they will be accepted for the compost pile..

    The town runs a separate vaccuum truck to pick up leaves during the
    fall. I think each area of town is picked up every couple of weeks or
    so.

    Speaking of yead waste .... you might want to replave the beer in
    this recipe with mushroom stock or vegemte/marmite mixed w/water.

    I would definatly replace it, with maybe a bit of beef broth/stock.

    Title: Backyard's Ranch Beans
    Categories: Beans, Beer, Pork, Chilies
    Yield: 24 Servings

    As long as it's not sweet. The beer, Shiner Bock, is "well-hopped? and therefore bitter. Which is why I suggest the replacements that I did.

    The hops are the main thing we find objectionable in beer.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Sat Jan 13 06:08:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    During the fall (leaf season) there is more frequency of pick ups. And
    if you have need to get rid of the waste before the scheduled pickup
    there is a facility between the city and the airport where you may
    take your bags and they will be accepted for the compost pile..

    The town runs a separate vaccuum truck to pick up leaves during the
    fall. I think each area of town is picked up every couple of weeks or
    so.

    They wouldn'y have to worry with my place. Leaves and small twigs get
    run through the mulcher and spread back on the yard to return to the
    soil. And fertilise the grass that's there. The lawn mower is a
    mulching mower as well.

    Speaking of yead waste .... you might want to replave the beer in
    this recipe with mushroom stock or vegemte/marmite mixed w/water.

    I would definatly replace it, with maybe a bit of beef broth/stock.

    Title: Backyard's Ranch Beans
    Categories: Beans, Beer, Pork, Chilies
    Yield: 24 Servings

    As long as it's not sweet. The beer, Shiner Bock, is "well-hopped? and therefore bitter. Which is why I suggest the replacements that I did.

    The hops are the main thing we find objectionable in beer.

    They do add a bitter component. All Australian beers AFAICS are well
    hopped and one of the most popular is "Victoria Bitter" Bv)= Too bad
    not of the Australian bunch are on the echo any longer. They could hop
    right on this topic.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Charles Chocolates Bittersweet Chocolate Truffles
    Categories: Five, Chocolate, Dairy
    Yield: 60 servings

    1 c Heavy cream
    1 lb Bittersweet chocolate; fine
    - chopped
    1 Whole vanilla bean
    2/3 c Unsweetened natural cocoa
    Powder

    Place the cream in a small saucepan over medium heat and
    bring to a simmer. Remove from the heat and set aside.
    Place the chopped chocolate in a heatproof bowl and set
    aside.

    Split the vanilla bean lengthwise and use the back of a
    paring knife to scrape the vanilla seeds into the cream.
    Discard the pod or reserve it for another use. Let the
    cream and vanilla steep for 10 minutes.

    Return the cream to a gentle simmer over medium heat.
    Pour the hot cream over the reserved chocolate and let
    it sit undisturbed for 5 minutes.

    Whisk the chocolate and cream together until very
    smooth.

    Pour the chocolate mixture into an 8" X 8" baking dish.
    Cover and refrigerate until hardened, at least 5 hours.

    Using a small melon baller or a small teaspoon, scoop a
    1" sized ball of the chocolate mixture into your hand
    and roll it between your palms until it's somewhat smooth
    and round.

    Place on a baking sheet and repeat with the remaining
    chocolate mixture.

    Place the cocoa powder in a shallow bowl or pan. Roll
    the truffles in the cocoa powder until evenly coated.

    Store the truffles at a cool room temperature for up to
    2 weeks in an airtight container, but do not refrigerate
    or freeze them - this damages the texture of the creamy
    chocolate.

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.chowhound.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sat Jan 13 14:42:50 2024
    Hi Dave,

    The town runs a separate vaccuum truck to pick up leaves during the
    fall. I think each area of town is picked up every couple of weeks or
    so.

    They wouldn'y have to worry with my place. Leaves and small twigs get
    run through the mulcher and spread back on the yard to return to the
    soil. And fertilise the grass that's there. The lawn mower is a
    mulching mower as well.

    We've got a mulching mower too, and some years we'll use that. Other
    years Steve will just blow them curbside and we'll let the town take
    them.

    As long as it's not sweet. The beer, Shiner Bock, is "well-hopped? and therefore bitter. Which is why I suggest the replacements that I did.

    The hops are the main thing we find objectionable in beer.

    They do add a bitter component. All Australian beers AFAICS are well hopped and one of the most popular is "Victoria Bitter" Bv)= Too bad
    not of the Australian bunch are on the echo any longer. They could hop right on this topic.

    Except I thought the discussion of alcoholic drinks was off topic--or
    have the rules changed?


    Title: Charles Chocolates Bittersweet Chocolate Truffles
    Categories: Five, Chocolate, Dairy
    Yield: 60 servings


    Now those I'd scarf down in a New York minute. (G) Went to the local
    farmer's market today, first time this year as Steve finally tested
    negative for Covid. Got a number of goodies--slice of NY cheesecake,
    slice of carrot cake, a couple of mixed berry empanadas, a blueberry
    scone, a couple of sausage rolls and some kettle corn. Had gone to
    Wegman's yesterday so was stocked already on produce.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Mon Jan 15 06:49:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    As long as it's not sweet. The beer, Shiner Bock, is "well-hopped? and therefore bitter. Which is why I suggest the replacements that I did.

    The hops are the main thing we find objectionable in beer.

    They do add a bitter component. All Australian beers AFAICS are well hopped and one of the most popular is "Victoria Bitter" Bv)= Too bad
    not of the Australian bunch are on the echo any longer. They could hop right on this topic.

    Except I thought the discussion of alcoholic drinks was off topic--or
    have the rules changed?

    We're discussing its use in cooking which brings it right back on-topic. Discussion of brewing beer, making wine or distilling hard hooch is, and
    ever shall be, off-topic.

    Title: Charles Chocolates Bittersweet Chocolate Truffles
    Categories: Five, Chocolate, Dairy
    Yield: 60 servings

    Now those I'd scarf down in a New York minute. (G) Went to the local farmer's market today, first time this year as Steve finally tested negative for Covid. Got a number of goodies--slice of NY cheesecake,
    slice of carrot cake, a couple of mixed berry empanadas, a blueberry scone, a couple of sausage rolls and some kettle corn. Had gone to Wegman's yesterday so was stocked already on produce.

    Where my town's farmer's market is located (downtown) it's easier to
    park away from the center of the city and ride the bus. I have a "true" farmer's market/stand closer than downtown with Suttill's Garden, a truck
    farm and greenhouse operation that is grandfathered in - which means no Johnny-come-lately can set up shop within the city limits given the laws
    passed to prohibit raising livestock/chickens and crops inside the city.

    Here's a link to a nice article about the place:

    https://www.illinoistimes.com/food-drink/keeping-suttills-gardens-in-the-family-12152035

    ... If your mind goes blank, remember to turn off the sound.

    Is that a memo to politicians?

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Bauernfruhstuck (Farmer's Breakfast)
    Categories: Pork, Eggs, Vegetables, Potatoes, Dairy
    Yield: 4 Servings

    4 md Potatoes
    4 sl Bacon; diced
    3 lg Eggs
    3 tb Milk
    1/2 ts Salt
    1 c Ham; in small cubes
    2 md Tomatoes; Peeled
    1 tb Chives; Chopped

    Boil unpeeled potatoes 30 minutes. Rinse under cold water,
    peel and set aside to cool. Slice potatoes. In a large
    fry-pan cook bacon until transparent.

    Add the potato slices; cook until lightly browned. Blend
    eggs with milk and salt. Stir in the cubed ham. Cut the
    tomatoes into thin wedges; add to the egg mixture. Pour
    the egg mixture over the potatoes in the fry-pan.

    Cook until the eggs are set. Sprinkle with chopped chives
    and serve at once.

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Mon Jan 15 13:53:18 2024
    Hi Dave,

    They do add a bitter component. All Australian beers AFAICS are well hopped and one of the most popular is "Victoria Bitter" Bv)= Too bad
    not of the Australian bunch are on the echo any longer. They could hop right on this topic.

    Except I thought the discussion of alcoholic drinks was off topic--or
    have the rules changed?

    We're discussing its use in cooking which brings it right back
    on-topic. Discussion of brewing beer, making wine or distilling hard
    hooch is, and ever shall be, off-topic.

    OK, it was getting a bit grey there for a moment.


    Title: Charles Chocolates Bittersweet Chocolate Truffles
    Categories: Five, Chocolate, Dairy
    Yield: 60 servings

    Now those I'd scarf down in a New York minute. (G) Went to the local farmer's market today, first time this year as Steve finally tested negative for Covid. Got a number of goodies--slice of NY cheesecake,
    slice of carrot cake, a couple of mixed berry empanadas, a blueberry scone, a couple of sausage rolls and some kettle corn. Had gone to Wegman's yesterday so was stocked already on produce.

    Where my town's farmer's market is located (downtown) it's easier to
    park away from the center of the city and ride the bus. I have a
    "true" farmer's market/stand closer than downtown with Suttill's
    Garden, a truck farm and greenhouse operation that is grandfathered in
    - which means no Johnny-come-lately can set up shop within the city
    limits given the laws passed to prohibit raising livestock/chickens
    and crops inside the city.

    Our local one is downtown in the older part of Wake Forest, currently a
    block or so from the town hall. It's been several places since we moved
    here, some larger, some smaller. Right now, since we're in the winter
    market season, there are more than the usual 2 or 3 crafters, a couple
    of bakers, a couple of niche food distributers (kettle corn for one) and
    about 4 farmers, with limited produce. Plus, we usually have a local
    musician or small ensemble so we have music to shop by. (G)

    ... If your mind goes blank, remember to turn off the sound.

    Is that a memo to politicians?

    To anybody it needs to apply to.


    Title: Bauernfruhstuck (Farmer's Breakfast)
    Categories: Pork, Eggs, Vegetables, Potatoes, Dairy
    Yield: 4 Servings

    4 md Potatoes
    4 sl Bacon; diced
    3 lg Eggs
    3 tb Milk
    1/2 ts Salt
    1 c Ham; in small cubes
    2 md Tomatoes; Peeled
    1 tb Chives; Chopped

    We usually do it with potatoes, onion, chicken and a fried egg on top. A
    lot less fuss, close to what we had in Germany.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Wed Jan 17 06:25:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Where my town's farmer's market is located (downtown) it's easier to
    park away from the center of the city and ride the bus. I have a
    "true" farmer's market/stand closer than downtown with Suttill's
    Garden, a truck farm and greenhouse operation that is grandfathered in
    - which means no Johnny-come-lately can set up shop within the city
    limits given the laws passed to prohibit raising livestock/chickens
    and crops inside the city.

    Our local one is downtown in the older part of Wake Forest, currently a block or so from the town hall. It's been several places since we moved here, some larger, some smaller. Right now, since we're in the winter market season, there are more than the usual 2 or 3 crafters, a couple
    of bakers, a couple of niche food distributers (kettle corn for one)
    and about 4 farmers, with limited produce. Plus, we usually have a
    local musician or small ensemble so we have music to shop by. (G)

    We also have to the north of town Seaney Farms, who have a huge truck
    garden and a greenhouse-like farmstand set up in Sherman, IL at the intersection of Business I-55 and Andrew Road. Also Jefferies Orchard
    which offer U-Pick as well as pick-it-for-you fruits and vegetables.

    https://www.jefferies-orchard.com

    https://www.seaneyfarms.com

    ... If your mind goes blank, remember to turn off the sound.

    Is that a memo to politicians?

    To anybody it needs to apply to.

    Okay. I forgot to ass their sycophants. Bv)= There are always more
    horse's patoots than there are horses.

    I've never made this - but I've had it served to me. Quite nice.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Galloping Horses (Thai Appetizer)
    Categories: Oriental, Pork, Nuts, Chilies, Fruits
    Yield: 9 Servings

    1 tb Oil
    1 lb Ground pork
    4 cl (to 8) garlic; fine chopped
    3 Green onions; white part
    - chopped
    3/4 c Roasted, salted peanuts
    1 Fresh pineapple
    +=OR=+
    5 Tangerines
    +=OR=+
    4 Oranges
    1/3 c Sugar
    1/2 ts Pepper
    Lettuce leaves
    Mint or coriander leaves
    Chopped chilies

    Grind peanuts. Heat oil in a frying pan, add pork, garlic
    and onions. Cook until pink color disappears. Drain off
    most of the fat. Add sugar and pepper, cook 1-2 minutes.
    Add peanuts, mix in well, then remove from heat. Cool to
    room temperature.

    Prepare platter, lining with lettuce leaves. Peel and
    segment the citrus fruit if used, cutting each segment
    down to the back and fanning open to form a circle.

    If using pineapple, cut off top leaves and outer skin, as
    thinly as possible, from top down. Look at the "eye"
    pattern, as it forms a spiral down the pineapple. Cut the
    spirals with a sharp knife held at about a 45-| angle. Cut
    off bottom. Cut pineapple into about 5 or 6 wedges and
    then cut each of those into 1/4 inch slices. Arrange
    fruit on platter.

    Mound meat mixture onto fruit, and decorate with other
    garnishes.

    Serve at room temperature, or chilled.

    Servings: 8 - 10

    From: Stephanie da Silva

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Wed Jan 17 14:33:06 2024
    Hi Dave,

    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Where my town's farmer's market is located (downtown) it's easier to
    park away from the center of the city and ride the bus. I have a

    Our local one is downtown in the older part of Wake Forest, currently a block or so from the town hall. It's been several places since we moved local musician or small ensemble so we have music to shop by. (G)

    We also have to the north of town Seaney Farms, who have a huge truck garden and a greenhouse-like farmstand set up in Sherman, IL at the intersection of Business I-55 and Andrew Road. Also Jefferies Orchard which offer U-Pick as well as pick-it-for-you fruits and vegetables.

    Sounds like places to become a regular customer at.


    I've never made this - but I've had it served to me. Quite nice.


    Title: Galloping Horses (Thai Appetizer)
    Categories: Oriental, Pork, Nuts, Chilies, Fruits
    Yield: 9 Servings

    Looks like something I'd try, never seen it that I can recall on a Thai
    menu or at an Asian pot luck.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Fri Jan 19 06:53:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Where my town's farmer's market is located (downtown) it's easier
    to park away from the center of the city and ride the bus. I have a

    Our local one is downtown in the older part of Wake Forest, currently a block or so from the town hall. It's been several places since we moved local musician or small ensemble so we have music to shop by. (G)

    We also have to the north of town Seaney Farms, who have a huge truck garden and a greenhouse-like farmstand set up in Sherman, IL at the intersection of Business I-55 and Andrew Road. Also Jefferies Orchard which offer U-Pick as well as pick-it-for-you fruits and vegetables.

    Sounds like places to become a regular customer at.

    I use Suttill's more than the others if only to poke a finger in the
    eye of the officious twits who don't understand "grandfathered in" for
    the reason thatb there's an active, working farm within the city limnits.

    I've never made this - but I've had it served to me. Quite nice.

    Title: Galloping Horses (Thai Appetizer)
    Categories: Oriental, Pork, Nuts, Chilies, Fruits
    Yield: 9 Servings

    Looks like something I'd try, never seen it that I can recall on a Thai menu or at an Asian pot luck.

    I can only get it at Magic Kitchen - which was the first Thai restaurant
    in town. They serve very authentic Thai food. Including Thai heat levels
    unless one chickens out and orders "mild".

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Tom Yum Moo *
    Categories: Oriental, Soups, Pork, Herbs, Chilies
    Yield: 6 Servings

    2 lb Pork; in convenient spoon
    - sized pieces
    2 Stalks lemon grass; bruised
    2 "Kaffir" lime leaves; use
    - lime zest if you can't get
    - it
    2 Coriander [cilantro] plants;
    - chopped.
    15 Prik ki nu(birdseye chilies)
    - thin sliced
    2 (to 5) dried red chilies
    Juice of 3 or 4 limes
    3 tb Sliced bamboo or coconut
    - shoots
    3 tb Fish sauce
    2 tb Chilies in oil; nam prik pao
    - bottled-or use recipe that
    - follows

    The fresh chilies should be bruised in a mortar and
    pestle. The dried chilies should be heated first, then
    crumbled into the fresh chilies. Beat the lemon grass with
    the grinder of the mortar and pestle (it's called a 'sa'
    in Thai, I'm never sure whether it is the mortar or the
    pestle in English...) or the back of a cleaver.

    Heat about 3 cups of water to boiling point, add all the
    ingredients, and stir constantly until cooked (it doesn't
    take long for mushrooms, longer for chicken or shrimp, and
    longest for beef).

    VARIATIONS: use three cups of thin coconut milk instead of
    water, the result is tom kha, rather than tom yum.

    * Tom Yum can be made with a number of ingredients. The
    version given here is for a simple tom yum moo (pork
    soup), but it can also be tom yum kai (chicken), tom yum
    het (mushroom), tom yum neua (beef), or tom yum khoong
    (shrimp), by simply substituting the pork for another
    flavour ingredient. You can also mix and match to suit
    yourself...

    Recipe by: Muoi Khuntilanont (a professional chef)

    From: Colonel Ian Khuntilanont-Philpott

    RECIPE FROM: http://www.chetbacon..com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    MMMMM

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Nam Prik Pao (Colonel)
    Categories: Oriental, Sauces, Chilies, Herbs, Seafood
    Yield: 1 Cup

    4 tb Oil
    3 tb Chopped garlic
    3 tb Chopped shallots
    3 tb Coarse chopped dried red
    - chilies
    1 tb Fermented shrimp paste
    1 tb Fish sauce
    2 ts Sugar

    HEAT THE OIL: add the garlic and shallots and fry briefly,
    remove from the oil and set aside. Add the chilies and fry
    until they start to change colour, then remove them and
    set them aside.

    In a mortar and pestle pound the shrimp paste, add the
    chilies, garlic and shallots, blending each in before
    adding the next. Then over low heat return all the
    ingredients to the oil, and fold into a uniform paste.

    The resulting thick, slightly oily red/black sauce will
    keep almost indefinitely. If you wish you can add more
    fish sauce and/or sugar to get the flavour you want.

    Recipe by: Muoi Khuntilanont (a professional chef)

    From: Colonel Ian Khuntilanont-Philpott

    RECIPE FROM: http://www.chetbacon..com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to DAVE DRUM on Fri Jan 19 09:29:00 2024
    I can only get it at Magic Kitchen - which was the first Thai restaurant
    in town. They serve very authentic Thai food. Including Thai heat levels unless one chickens out and orders "mild".

    We have a decent Thai restaurant here in town -- the Thai Smile -- that
    will serve food at supposed Thai levels if you order it that way. I used
    to go up to 2.5 stars out of 5 but they have changed their rating system
    since I was last in... they show pictures of people on social media that
    have ordered star levels may times above 5 now.

    At lunchtime, when they were real busy and had a lot of people ordering the same dishes, I am convinced they made it up in large batches with the same
    star level. I always ordered 0 or 1 at lunchtime and it was much more
    spicy than the same level at dinnertime!

    That was with my usual order, the Basil Chicken on a bed of rice.

    Mike


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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Mike Powell on Sat Jan 20 05:55:00 2024
    Mike Powell wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-

    I can only get it at Magic Kitchen - which was the first Thai restaurant
    in town. They serve very authentic Thai food. Including Thai heat levels unless one chickens out and orders "mild".

    We have a decent Thai restaurant here in town -- the Thai Smile -- that will serve food at supposed Thai levels if you order it that way. I
    used to go up to 2.5 stars out of 5 but they have changed their rating system since I was last in... they show pictures of people on social
    media that have ordered star levels may times above 5 now.

    My first experience with Thai cookery was at the Magic Kitchen I referred
    to in my previous post. The cute redheaded waitress (also the owner and
    wife of the chef) warned me when I ordered "Hot" that the heat levels
    were "Thai hot" not "roundeye" hot. So I ordered "Medium" which was all
    the spiciness my chilehead palate wanted. It became a regular lunch stop
    for me.

    One day a couple of guys I knew from the racetrack came in and ordered
    their food hot. Shari tried to warn them and I said, "You ought to try
    the medium first, guys". Nope. "I know what I'm doing, I'll have th hot"
    And a nod from his companion. So, I hung around a bit longer than usual
    to watch the show. It turned into a duel to see who couls out-macho the
    other. I could almost hear their thoughts "He's going to take another
    bite. Now I'll have to take another bite. Mommy help me!"

    A couple days later I was in the workplace of one of the guys and he
    said "Should have listened."

    Now there are a lot of venues which serve Thai food. Some even owned
    and/or staffed by Thais. There are also Vietnamese, Laotians and a few Cambodians in the mix.

    At lunchtime, when they were real busy and had a lot of people ordering the same dishes, I am convinced they made it up in large batches with
    the same star level. I always ordered 0 or 1 at lunchtime and it was
    much more spicy than the same level at dinnertime!

    That was with my usual order, the Basil Chicken on a bed of rice.

    My favourite at Magic Kitchen (also Taste of Thai, Thai Basil and Thai
    Kitchen 2)

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Garlic Pepper Pork
    Categories: Pork, Vegetables, Herbs, Chilies
    Yield: 4 servings

    1 1/2 lb Lean pork; in small strips
    2 tb Oil
    3 lg Garlic cloves; chopped fine
    1 md Onion; diced
    1/2 Red bell peppers; diced
    2 Prik kaleang chilies, crushed
    +=OR=+
    6 Prik kee noo suan chilies;
    - crushed
    6 sl Fresh ginger; quarter-sized,
    - cut in matchsticks
    1 tb Fresh ground black pepper
    2 tb Nam Pla fish sauce
    2 tb Oyster sauce
    1 tb Soy sauce
    1/4 c stock or water

    Heat oil to medium-high; stir-fry garlic, dried chile,
    and pork, about 3-4 minutes until pork is nearly done.

    Add onions, ginger, bell pepper, and stir-fry 3 minutes.

    Add black pepper and remaining liquids and stir-fry
    another 1-2 minutes. Taste and adjust seasonings.

    Serve over white rice.

    Servings: 4

    RECIPE FROM: https://hot-thai-kitchen.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Fri Jan 19 13:38:01 2024
    Hi Dave,


    We also have to the north of town Seaney Farms, who have a huge truck garden and a greenhouse-like farmstand set up in Sherman, IL at the intersection of Business I-55 and Andrew Road. Also Jefferies Orchard which offer U-Pick as well as pick-it-for-you fruits and vegetables.

    Sounds like places to become a regular customer at.

    I use Suttill's more than the others if only to poke a finger in the
    eye of the officious twits who don't understand "grandfathered in" for
    the reason thatb there's an active, working farm within the city
    limnits.

    Other towns in our area have markets also but they usually conflict with
    the hours of ours or are otherwise inconvenient. Besides, we're "home
    folks" at this market--got to know the regular vendors quite well.


    I've never made this - but I've had it served to me. Quite nice.

    Title: Galloping Horses (Thai Appetizer)
    Categories: Oriental, Pork, Nuts, Chilies, Fruits
    Yield: 9 Servings

    Looks like something I'd try, never seen it that I can recall on a Thai menu or at an Asian pot luck.

    I can only get it at Magic Kitchen - which was the first Thai
    restaurant in town. They serve very authentic Thai food. Including
    Thai heat levels unless one chickens out and orders "mild".

    I'd probably go with the mild. Had a Thai bowl of something (forgotten
    what it was) in a mall in Hawaii--started mild but got hotter the more I
    ate of it. Steve had to finish the last few bites; my mouth was on fire.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Sun Jan 21 06:13:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I've never made this - but I've had it served to me. Quite nice.

    Title: Galloping Horses (Thai Appetizer)
    Categories: Oriental, Pork, Nuts, Chilies, Fruits
    Yield: 9 Servings

    Looks like something I'd try, never seen it that I can recall on
    a Thai menu or at an Asian pot luck.

    I can only get it at Magic Kitchen - which was the first Thai
    restaurant in town. They serve very authentic Thai food. Including
    Thai heat levels unless one chickens out and orders "mild".

    I'd probably go with the mild. Had a Thai bowl of something (forgotten what it was) in a mall in Hawaii--started mild but got hotter the more
    I ate of it. Steve had to finish the last few bites; my mouth was on
    fire.

    In a new venue I start with medium then I know whether to adjust upward
    or downward on subsequent orders. At one strip mall Thai place (Taste
    of Thai) I had a favourite lunch dish that I ordered hot. It came with
    no discernible heat so the next time I visited I ordered the dish and,
    knowing the Thai word for hot and that doubling it means you're serious, specified "phrt phet" for the heat level. When the meal appeared the
    normally white rice was red from all of the ground chile on it and lots
    of chilies were evident in to entree. I glanced at the pass through to
    the kitchen and saw the cook with a toothy grin. So, I ate the whole
    thing. I did NOT enjoy it. But, I never had any trouble over heat levels
    after that. Bv)=

    This is not really piri piri (hot) but closer to Popeyes spicy levels.
    Of course one can always adjust the cayenne upwards. Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Piri Piri Fried Chicken
    Categories: Poultry, Vegetables, Herbs, Chilies
    Yield: 4 servings

    MMMMM--------------------------CHICKEN-------------------------------
    2 1/2 c Buttermilk
    2 tb Kosher salt
    1 tb Piri piri spice blend
    1 tb Onion powder
    1 tb Garlic powder
    3 1/2 lb Bone-in skin-on chicken legs
    - & thighs

    MMMMM-----------------------FLOUR COATING----------------------------
    2 c (272 g) A-P flour
    2 tb Piri piri spice blend
    1 1/2 ts Black pepper
    2 tb Smoked paprika
    1/2 tb Garlic powder
    1 tb Onion powder
    1 ts Kosher salt
    Peanut or canola oil

    MMMMM-----------------------PIRI PIRI MIX----------------------------
    3 ts Paprika
    2 ts Dried oregano; crushed
    2 ts Ground ginger
    2 ts Ground cardamom
    2 ts Garlic powder
    2 ts Onion powder
    1 ts Salt
    1 ts Ground cayenne; more to
    - taste

    Combine in a small bowl. Store excess in a tight covered
    container

    MAKE THE MARINADE: In a large bowl, combine the
    buttermilk, salt, piri piri spice blend, onion powder,
    and garlic powder. Add the chicken to this buttermilk
    mixture. Cover with plastic wrap and marinate the
    chicken in the refrigerator for 8 to 24 hours.

    MAKE THE FLOUR COATING FOR CHICKEN: In a large plastic
    bag or in a large bowl combine the flour, piri piri
    spice blend, black pepper, paprika, garlic powder, onion
    powder, and salt.

    DREDGE THE CHICKEN PIECES IN FLOUR MIXTURE: Remove the
    chicken from the buttermilk marinade and allow the
    excess buttermilk to drip off. Individually dredge each
    piece into the flour mixture making sure the chicken is
    fully coated. Shake off the excess flour, place the
    chicken pieces on a sheet pan.

    LET THE FLOURED CHICKEN REST: Let the floured chicken
    pieces sit at room temperature for 30 minutes to help
    the flour adhere to the chicken and let the chicken come
    to room temperature.

    HEAT THE FRYING OIL: While the chicken sits for 30
    minutes, fill the Dutch oven half way full with oil.
    Heat the oil, over medium-high heat until the oil
    reaches 325-|F/165-|C when using a kitchen thermometer.

    Alternatively, to tell if your oil is ready for frying
    you can add a pinch of flour into the oil, and when it
    begins to sizzle, your oil is ready.

    FRY THE CHICKEN: Cook the chicken in batches by adding a
    few pieces of chicken to the pot and fry for about 15
    minutes, turning halfway through the cooking time. Your
    chicken is full cooked through when the thickest part of
    the chicken pieces reaches 165-|F/74-|C when inserted with
    a digital thermometer.

    PLACE CHICKEN ON A RACK TO DRAIN EXCESS OIL: When the
    chicken is golden brown and cooked through, remove the
    chicken using tongs and place on a rack over a baking
    sheet to drain any excess oil.

    Serve fried chicken warm along with your favorite sides

    By: Sharee Hill

    RECIPE FROM:https://www.simplyrecipes.com

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    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I've never made this - but I've had it served to me. Quite nice.

    Title: Galloping Horses (Thai Appetizer)
    Categories: Oriental, Pork, Nuts, Chilies, Fruits
    Yield: 9 Servings

    Looks like something I'd try, never seen it that I can recall on
    a Thai menu or at an Asian pot luck.

    I can only get it at Magic Kitchen - which was the first Thai
    restaurant in town. They serve very authentic Thai food. Including
    Thai heat levels unless one chickens out and orders "mild".

    I'd probably go with the mild. Had a Thai bowl of something (forgotten what it was) in a mall in Hawaii--started mild but got hotter the more
    I ate of it. Steve had to finish the last few bites; my mouth was on
    fire.

    In a new venue I start with medium then I know whether to adjust upward
    or downward on subsequent orders. At one strip mall Thai place (Taste
    of Thai) I had a favourite lunch dish that I ordered hot. It came with
    no discernible heat so the next time I visited I ordered the dish and,
    knowing the Thai word for hot and that doubling it means you're serious, specified "phrt phet" for the heat level. When the meal appeared the
    normally white rice was red from all of the ground chile on it and lots
    of chilies were evident in to entree. I glanced at the pass through to
    the kitchen and saw the cook with a toothy grin. So, I ate the whole
    thing. I did NOT enjoy it. But, I never had any trouble over heat levels
    after that. Bv)=

    This is not really piri piri (hot) but closer to Popeyes spicy levels.
    Of course one can always adjust the cayenne upwards. Bv)=

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    Title: Piri Piri Fried Chicken
    Categories: Poultry, Vegetables, Herbs, Chilies
    Yield: 4 servings

    MMMMM--------------------------CHICKEN-------------------------------
    2 1/2 c Buttermilk
    2 tb Kosher salt
    1 tb Piri piri spice blend
    1 tb Onion powder
    1 tb Garlic powder
    3 1/2 lb Bone-in skin-on chicken legs
    - & thighs

    MMMMM-----------------------FLOUR COATING----------------------------
    2 c (272 g) A-P flour
    2 tb Piri piri spice blend
    1 1/2 ts Black pepper
    2 tb Smoked paprika
    1/2 tb Garlic powder
    1 tb Onion powder
    1 ts Kosher salt
    Peanut or canola oil

    MMMMM-----------------------PIRI PIRI MIX----------------------------
    3 ts Paprika
    2 ts Dried oregano; crushed
    2 ts Ground ginger
    2 ts Ground cardamom
    2 ts Garlic powder
    2 ts Onion powder
    1 ts Salt
    1 ts Ground cayenne; more to
    - taste

    Combine in a small bowl. Store excess in a tight covered
    container

    MAKE THE MARINADE: In a large bowl, combine the
    buttermilk, salt, piri piri spice blend, onion powder,
    and garlic powder. Add the chicken to this buttermilk
    mixture. Cover with plastic wrap and marinate the
    chicken in the refrigerator for 8 to 24 hours.

    MAKE THE FLOUR COATING FOR CHICKEN: In a large plastic
    bag or in a large bowl combine the flour, piri piri
    spice blend, black pepper, paprika, garlic powder, onion
    powder, and salt.

    DREDGE THE CHICKEN PIECES IN FLOUR MIXTURE: Remove the
    chicken from the buttermilk marinade and allow the
    excess buttermilk to drip off. Individually dredge each
    piece into the flour mixture making sure the chicken is
    fully coated. Shake off the excess flour, place the
    chicken pieces on a sheet pan.

    LET THE FLOURED CHICKEN REST: Let the floured chicken
    pieces sit at room temperature for 30 minutes to help
    the flour adhere to the chicken and let the chicken come
    to room temperature.

    HEAT THE FRYING OIL: While the chicken sits for 30
    minutes, fill the Dutch oven half way full with oil.
    Heat the oil, over medium-high heat until the oil
    reaches 325-|F/165-|C when using a kitchen thermometer.

    Alternatively, to tell if your oil is ready for frying
    you can add a pinch of flour into the oil, and when it
    begins to sizzle, your oil is ready.

    FRY THE CHICKEN: Cook the chicken in batches by adding a
    few pieces of chicken to the pot and fry for about 15
    minutes, turning halfway through the cooking time. Your
    chicken is full cooked through when the thickest part of
    the chicken pieces reaches 165-|F/74-|C when inserted with
    a digital thermometer.

    PLACE CHICKEN ON A RACK TO DRAIN EXCESS OIL: When the
    chicken is golden brown and cooked through, remove the
    chicken using tongs and place on a rack over a baking
    sheet to drain any excess oil.

    Serve fried chicken warm along with your favorite sides

    By: Sharee Hill

    RECIPE FROM:https://www.simplyrecipes.com

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