• 12/31 Champagne Day - 1

    From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to All on Sat Dec 30 14:12:30 2023
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    Title: Ham in Champagne
    Categories: Pork, Wine, Fruits
    Yield: 15 Servings

    19 lb Boneless ham
    1 1/2 l Extra dry champagne; 2 X 750
    - millilitre bottles
    1 1/2 ts Ground ginger
    Pineapple slices
    1 lb Light brown sugar
    3 tb Honey
    1 1/2 ts Dry mustard
    Spiced apples (opt)

    Score ham and place on rack in baking pan. Cover top
    with 1 cup brown sugar, and pour over 750 ml champagne.

    Bake at 325ºF/160ºC for 2 hours.

    Combine remaining bottle champagne, remaining brown
    sugar, honey, ginger, and mustard, and bring to rolling
    boil in saucepan. Lower heat and simmer while basting
    ham every 15 minutes until done.

    Garnish with pineapple slices and spiced apples if
    desired.

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

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  • From Ben Collver@1:124/5016 to Dave Drum on Sun Dec 31 13:01:32 2023
    Re: 12/31 Champagne Day - 1
    By: Dave Drum to All on Sat Dec 30 2023 14:12:30

    Happy New Year!

    Title: Ham in Champagne
    Yield: 15 Servings
    19 lb Boneless ham

    recipesource.com has 5 duplicate copies of this recipe [1]. Some say 19 lb ham, and others say one 9 lb ham. The recipe says 15 servings. According
    to Southern Living, that would be one 9 pound ham [2].

    [1]
    https://recipesource.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi?search_string=ham+in+champagne

    [2]
    https://www.southernliving.com/food/meat/pork/how-much-ham-per-person
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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ben Collver on Mon Jan 1 06:20:00 2024
    Ben Collver wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Happy New Year!

    Title: Ham in Champagne
    Yield: 15 Servings
    19 lb Boneless ham

    recipesource.com has 5 duplicate copies of this recipe [1]. Some say
    19 lb ham, and others say one 9 lb ham. The recipe says 15 servings. According to Southern Living, that would be one 9 pound ham [2].

    [1] https://recipesource.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi?search_string=ham+in+champag ne

    [2]
    https://www.southernliving.com/food/meat/pork/how-much-ham-per-person

    That recipe was numbered <2000 in my MM database so it was collected
    early days. I've never made it since even a 9# ham would be overkill
    for my household.

    Also, "Servings" is just a "guesstimate" at the best of times. Maybe
    the editors/writers at Southern Living aren't eager eaters.

    Heck, we once had a regular poster who was well known for using "3" for
    the number of servings .... even when it was patently obvious that was a specious number.

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    Title: Hoosier Supper
    Categories: Beef, Vegetables, Casseroles, Cheese, Rice
    Yield: 3 Servings

    1 lb Ground beef
    1/2 c Bell pepper; chopped
    1/2 c Celery; chopped
    1 cl Garlic
    2 c Eggplant; diced
    2 tb Parsley
    1 c Uncooked rice
    1 Envelope of onion soup mix
    1/2 ts Oregano
    6 oz Can tomato paste
    3 c Water
    1/4 c Ripe olives
    1 c Bread crumbs
    1/2 c Parmesan cheese
    2 tb Butter; melted
    Salt and pepper

    Brown the beef; drain excess fat. Add green pepper,
    celery and garlic. Saute until tender. Stir in salt
    and pepper, eggplant (my favorite), parsley, rice,
    oregano, soup mix, tomato paste and water. Bring to a
    boil; cover and simmer for 20 minutes. Pour into
    greased casserole or baking pan. Sprinkle with mixed
    bread crumbs, Parmesan cheese and butter. Top with
    ripe olives.

    Bake at 450ºF/232ºC for 15 minutes.

    I usually omit the olives. -- Randy Rigg

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

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  • From Ben Collver@1:105/500 to Dave Drum on Mon Jan 1 12:47:58 2024
    Re: 12/31 Champagne Day - 1
    By: Dave Drum to Ben Collver on Mon Jan 01 2024 06:20 am

    That's a good point about guesstimated servings and specious numbers.
    Chef beware. :-)

    A friend asked me how to tell whether a recipe is good ahead of time.

    My approach has been to find a handful of recipes on recipesource.com
    and compare them to each other. The recipe that seems the easiest,
    most complete, or most well thought-out is the one i would try,
    sometimes incorporating ideas from the others. Or if doing a web
    search, i'd search for recipes with many positive reviews or a phrase
    like "best ever" in the title.

    How do you tell ahead of time whether you think a recipe will be good?
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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ben Collver on Tue Jan 2 07:45:00 2024
    Ben Collver wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    That's a good point about guesstimated servings and specious numbers.
    Chef beware. :-)

    A friend asked me how to tell whether a recipe is good ahead of time.

    My approach has been to find a handful of recipes on recipesource.com
    and compare them to each other. The recipe that seems the easiest,
    most complete, or most well thought-out is the one i would try,
    sometimes incorporating ideas from the others. Or if doing a web
    search, i'd search for recipes with many positive reviews or a phrase
    like "best ever" in the title.

    How do you tell ahead of time whether you think a recipe will be good?

    I parse the ingredients list to see if I have what I'll need at hand,
    read the directions then make the recipe in my head. If I come across
    a dead clam in that process I move on to the next recipe. Bv)=

    I've collected many more recipes than I'll ever make. But, they are all,
    for the most par, something I'd eat - at least once. And in looking on
    the web for recipes related to something Im posting if I find one that
    sounds especially good that I haven't made or don 't have in my database
    I put it on my "Round Tuit" list.

    This recipe started out that way.

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    Title: Uncle Dirty Dave's Red Pork Chilli
    Categories: Pork, Chilies, Stews
    Yield: 5 Servings

    3 lb Fresh picnic shoulder; cubed
    - in 1/2" cubes
    14 oz Can Red Gold diced tomatoes
    - w/Chilies (or Ro-Tel)
    8 oz Can El Pato tomato sauce *
    1/2 c Water
    1/4 ts Ground coriander **
    1/2 ts Garlic Granules (not powder)
    4 oz Can chopped green chilies
    Salt & Pepper
    2 md Bell peppers; in strips or
    - diced coarse
    1 lg Onion; chopped
    2 ts Chilli spice mix **
    1/2 ts Cumin **

    * Or other spicy Mexican-style tomato sauce. El Pato is
    the bee's knees, however.

    ** If the spices are old or stale heat them in the
    skillet until they become aromatic. There will be a
    noticable difference in thr flavour of the finished
    product.

    In a 10" or 12", well seasoned cast iron skillet heat
    the salt, pepper and garlic. Add the meat and stir
    around until all sides of the cubes are gray. Add 1/2
    cup of water and continue to stir until all water is
    absorbed or cooked away. Let the meat fry in its own
    fat until it starts to brown.

    Add chopped onion and cook a few minutes longer. Add
    tomato sauce, chilies, pepper, coriander, cumin, chilli
    spice and more salt if needed. Reduce heat to simmer
    and cook covered thirty minutes or until meat is tender,
    stirring occasionally.

    Serve with Spanish rice or Cajun rice.

    Serves 4 to 6

    Developed from a Kroger recipe card, tested and
    enthusiastically approved @ Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen.

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