• Apricot-Almond Bread

    From Ben Collver@1:124/5016 to All on Fri Dec 1 12:44:46 2023
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    Title: Apricot-Almond Bread
    Categories: Breads
    Yield: 1 Loaf

    1 1/2 c Dried apricots
    1 1/2 c Water
    2 tb Butter; soft
    1/2 c Honey or real maple syrup
    1 ts Salt
    1 1/2 c White flour
    1 c Whole wheat flour
    1 ts Baking soda
    2 ts Baking powder
    1 c Almonds; chopped
    1 Egg; beaten
    1 ts Vanilla
    1/2 ts Fresh orange rind; grated

    Pre-heat oven to 350 F.

    Cook apricots in water for 10 minutes (covered, low heat). Cool
    completely and add butter, syrup, and salt. Beat in egg and vanilla.
    Sift together dry ingredients. Fold everything together and spread
    into buttered loaf pan. Bake 1-1/4 hours, and remove bread from pan
    10 minutes after it comes out of the oven.

    Recipe by Moosewood Cookbook

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ben Collver on Sat Dec 2 05:56:00 2023
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    Title: Apricot-Almond Bread
    Categories: Breads
    Yield: 1 Loaf

    1 1/2 c Dried apricots

    Recipe by Moosewood Cookbook

    That's almost a "stollen", a German Christmas bread which I have made
    a time or two. Tradition says just to make a simple, oval, sheet-pan
    loaf. But, I once had a braided stollen and it made such a nice looking presentation that's the way I do mine. Bv)=

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    Title: Holiday Stollen
    Categories: Breads, Fruits, Citrus, Nuts
    Yield: 1 Loaf

    1 c Milk
    1/2 c + 2 TB granulated sugar
    1/2 ts Salt
    1/4 ts Env active dry yeast
    1/4 c Warm water
    5 c Sifted A-P flour
    1/2 c Fine chopped candied citron
    1/2 c Fine chop'd candied cherries
    1 c Slivered almonds
    Grated rind of 1 lemon
    1 c Seedless raisins or sultanas
    2 lg Eggs; beaten
    1 c Butter; softened
    1/4 ts Nutmeg
    1/2 ts Cinnamon
    2/3 c Sifted confectioners' sugar
    2 tb Hot water

    Pour milk into a saucepan. Heat to scalding. Turn off
    heat; stir in 1/2 cup of the granulated sugar and the
    salt. Let mixture cool to lukewarm. In a large bowl,
    dissolve yeast in the 1/2 cup warm water; let mixture
    rest for 5 minutes. Pour lukewarm milk mixture into
    yeast solution. Stir in 1 cup of the flour. Beat dough
    with electric mixer or egg beater until smooth. Cover
    bowl with cloth towel; let dough rise in a warm place 1
    hour and 30 minutes or until double in bulk.

    Punch down dough in bowl; fold in citron, cherries,
    almonds, lemon rind and raisins. Add eggs, 3/4 cup of
    the softened butter and the nutmeg. Stir in 3 more cups
    flour; mix dough until smooth. Turn dough out onto a
    lightly floured surface. Knead, working in enough of
    remaining flour to make dough smooth and elastic. Divide
    dough into halves; roll each portion into an oval, about
    1/2" thick.

    In a small saucepan, melt remaining butter; brush it
    over ovals. In a small bowl, combine cinnamon with
    remaining 2 Tb granulated sugar; sprinkle mixture over
    ovals. Fold ovals in half, lengthwise. Place them on
    buttered baking sheet. Twist ends of each oval toward
    each other to form a crescent. Loosely cover ovals with
    wax paper and a cloth towel.

    Let Stollen rise in a warm place about 1 hour or until
    double in bulk.

    Set oven @ 350-|F/175-|C.

    Bake Stollen 45 minutes or until golden. In a small
    bowl, combine confectioners' sugar with enough of the
    hot water to make a thick icing. Dribble icing over
    hot Stollen; let Stollen cool before slicing.

    UDD NOTE: I usually make three equal ropes of the dough
    and braid them before the final rising. I also sprinkle
    whole, unsalted almonds onto the icing before it cools.

    Makes 1 Stollen.

    Recipe from: http://www.recipesource.com

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  • From Ben Collver@1:124/5016 to Dave Drum on Sun Dec 3 15:55:32 2023
    Re: Re: Apricot-Almond Bread
    By: Dave Drum to Ben Collver on Sat Dec 02 2023 05:56:00

    But, I once had a braided stollen and it made such a nice looking presentation that's the way I do mine. Bv)=
    Title: Holiday Stollen

    Thanks for the recipe. I'll put it on my to-do list to try making
    braided holiday stollen. I've made braided challah in the past, and
    was pleased with my results.

    I'm on the road. A friend treated me to homemade pizza baked in a
    cast iron frying pan. It resulted in a thick, spongey crust that
    soaked up oil from the frying pan. It reminded me a little of the
    deep dish pizza that they used to serve at Izzy's.

    His pizza dough recipe went roughly like this.

    1 c Flour
    1 c Water (if i recall correctly)
    2 ts Yeast
    1 ts Salt
    2 tb Olive oil; up to 4 tb

    Mix all ingredients in bowl.
    Let rise for 30 minutes at room temperature (72-74 degrees F).
    Punch down.
    Let rise for another 30 minutes.
    The more it rises, the better. It neeeds to double.
    Spread out and up edges of cast iron skillet (8 to 10",
    if i recall correctly).
    Preheat oven to 450 degrees F.
    Construct pizza as usual.
    Bake pizza for 14 to 17 minutes.
    Enjoy!
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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ben Collver on Mon Dec 4 05:01:00 2023
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    But, I once had a braided stollen and it made such a nice looking presentation that's the way I do mine. Bv)=
    Title: Holiday Stollen

    Thanks for the recipe. I'll put it on my to-do list to try making
    braided holiday stollen. I've made braided challah in the past, and
    was pleased with my results.

    The process (braiding) is much the same.

    I'm on the road. A friend treated me to homemade pizza baked in a
    cast iron frying pan. It resulted in a thick, spongey crust that
    soaked up oil from the frying pan. It reminded me a little of the
    deep dish pizza that they used to serve at Izzy's.

    His pizza dough recipe went roughly like this.

    1 c Flour
    1 c Water (if i recall correctly)
    2 ts Yeast

    I thought that looked like a *lot* of yeast. So, off to Bing I went to
    find out how much volume is in tha 1/4 oz/7g envelope. Survey says it's
    2 1/4 to 2 1/2 teqaspoons.

    1 ts Salt
    2 tb Olive oil; up to 4 tb

    If you do sourdough this is a great recipe - similar to what my didter
    in law uses. Me, I grab a "Papa Murphy's Take & Bake" and add extra meat
    and cheeses before sliding it into the oven. Bv)=

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    Title: Sourdough Pizza Dough
    Categories: Five, Breads
    Yield: 3 crusts

    5 c (500 g) 00 flour
    2 1/2 ts (15 g) kosher salt
    2 1/2 ts (7 1/2) g instant dry yeast
    1 tb (15 g) extra-virgin olive
    - oil
    1/4 c + 2 tb (90 g) sourdough
    - starter, "fed" *

    In a large mixing bowl, combine the flour and salt.

    In a small mixing bowl, stir together 300 grams (about 1
    1/4 cups) lukewarm tap water, the instant dry yeast and
    the olive oil, then stir the sourdough starter into it
    and pour it into the bowl with the flour mixture. Knead
    with your hands until well combined, about 4 minutes,
    then let mixture rest for 15 minutes.

    Knead rested dough for 3 to 4 minutes. Cut into 3 equal
    pieces and shape each into a ball. Place on a heavily
    floured surface, cover with a dampened cloth and let
    rest and rise for 8 to 24 hours in the refrigerator.
    (Remove from refrigerator 30 to 45 minutes before you
    begin to shape it for pizza.)

    To make pizza, place each dough ball on a heavily
    floured surface and use your fingers to stretch it, then
    your hands to shape it into rounds or squares. Top and
    bake.

    * If you feed your starter regularly, you can use it in
    this recipe right out of the crock in which you store
    it. But if not, give the starter a feed of flour and
    water a few hours before you mix up the dough.

    Recipe from: Roberta's

    Adapted by: Sam Sifton

    Yield: 3 pizzas

    RECIPE FROM: https://cooking.nytimes.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Ben Collver on Sun Dec 3 20:22:19 2023
    Hi Ben,

    Thanks for the recipe. I'll put it on my to-do list to try making
    braided holiday stollen. I've made braided challah in the past, and
    was pleased with my results.

    I made that once, now decades ago when our girls were small. Over the
    years I've thought about doing it again but never did. Did make stollen
    a couple of times while we were in Germany but have stuck mostly with
    regular bread, pizza dough, quick breads and such like.

    I'm on the road. A friend treated me to homemade pizza baked in a
    cast iron frying pan. It resulted in a thick, spongey crust that
    soaked up oil from the frying pan. It reminded me a little of the
    deep dish pizza that they used to serve at Izzy's.

    That does sound good--have to try it some time. Probably for Steve and
    me, the 10" pan would work well but I've got other sizes that I could
    try as well.


    His pizza dough recipe went roughly like this.

    1 c Flour
    1 c Water (if i recall correctly)

    Given that you're useing only one cup of flour, you probably need only
    half a cup of water. My basic pizza crust calls for 2 cups of flour (I
    use whole wheat) plus bench flour for kneading and 3/4-1 cup of warm
    water. Also calls for 1 TBSP each of yeast, oil, honey (or sugar) and a
    pinch of salt. Mix, set aside while fixing toppings, then put everything together. Bake at 425 (We've upped it to 450 sometimes) for 15-20
    minutes, depends on how thick your crust is and how many toppings you've
    put on.


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  • From Ben Collver@1:124/5016 to Dave Drum on Mon Dec 4 10:34:58 2023
    Re: Re: Apricot-Almond Bread
    By: Dave Drum to Ben Collver on Mon Dec 04 2023 05:01:00

    If you do sourdough this is a great recipe - similar to what my daughter
    in law uses.

    Thanks for the sourdough pizza dough recipe. I used to eat pizza every
    week, but now i only eat it socially. Perhaps i should revive the old sourdough culture and treat myself to some homemade pizza now and then.
    Papa Murphy's sells take and bake around here too, and it definitely has
    the convenience factor. These days they sell GF and dairy-free too,
    which is super expensive, but also convenient for the folks in my life
    who have stricter dietary restrictions than me.

    What are some of your favorite toppings to add?

    In the past, i got a kick out of adding canned salmon, pinapple, feta,
    fresh chopped basil, pitted & halved kalamata olives, sun dried
    tomatoes, sauteed onions & mushrooms, bell peppers, fresh diced
    jalapenos or serranos, zucchini or crookneck squash, walnuts, and
    fresh grated cheese from fancy hard cheese blocks like parmesan or
    aged gouda.
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  • From Ben Collver@1:124/5016 to Ruth Haffly on Mon Dec 4 10:42:11 2023
    Re: Apricot-Almond Bread
    By: Ruth Haffly to Ben Collver on Sun Dec 03 2023 20:22:19

    Given that you're useing only one cup of flour, you probably need only
    half a cup of water.

    That's cool that you can remember so clearly a loaf of bread that you
    cooked one time many years ago. Sometimes my mind works that way too.
    And then suddenly, that river that went underground so long ago
    surprisingly resurfaces and i feel that "i've still got it!"

    Thanks! I bet it was closer to half a cup of water. Since different
    flour has different absorbancy, i'd probably improvise and aim for
    what i've already learned as optimal pizza dough consistency.

    I am house sitting and will be cooking for an elderly dog. Due to
    health problems, he has become very picky about what he will eat.
    His human family recently and discovered, thanks to Thanksgiving
    leftovers, that he is much more enthusiastic about eating food if
    it is warm and topped with gravy. So i will be making chicken &
    gravy dinners for him.
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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ben Collver on Tue Dec 5 05:41:00 2023
    Ben Collver wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    If you do sourdough this is a great recipe - similar to what my daughter in law uses.

    I think I must have gotten my tongue over my eye-teeth and couldn't
    see what I was saying. That should have been "sister-in-law" (Ms. Vicky,
    my brother's ol' lady) as I only raised a girl. And she wasn't mine (in
    a biologic sense).

    Thanks for the sourdough pizza dough recipe. I used to eat pizza every week, but now i only eat it socially. Perhaps i should revive the old sourdough culture and treat myself to some homemade pizza now and then. Papa Murphy's sells take and bake around here too, and it definitely
    has the convenience factor. These days they sell GF and dairy-free
    too, which is super expensive, but also convenient for the folks in my life who have stricter dietary restrictions than me.

    Fortunately I am not afflicted with and of those dietary restrictions.

    What are some of your favorite toppings to add?

    In the past, i got a kick out of adding canned salmon, pinapple, feta, fresh chopped basil, pitted & halved kalamata olives, sun dried
    tomatoes, sauteed onions & mushrooms, bell peppers, fresh diced
    jalapenos or serranos, zucchini or crookneck squash, walnuts, and
    fresh grated cheese from fancy hard cheese blocks like parmesan or
    aged gouda.

    I like to add bazcon (not bac-os), hot Italian sausager that I get from Humphrey's (local grocery store w/100% "service" meat), sliced olives,
    both green and black, thin sliced tomato, ham steak in 1/4" dice, feta
    or bleu cheese (sparingly), chopped green chilies, sliced jalapeno or
    serrano chilies, bell pepper (any colour), red onion, extra mushrooms,

    Here's one that's on my "round tuit" list as a possible.The recipe as
    was presented on the web site assumes you will make your own crust. I'm
    a fan of short-cuts if decent options are available. Saves lots of time
    and mess and clean-ups.

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    Title: Seafood Pizza
    Categories: Breads, Seafood, Cheese, Vegetables, Herbs
    Yield: 8 slices

    1 md Pizza Dough; ho-made or
    - store bought
    2 cl Garlic; divided
    1/4 lb Small (U-60) shrimp; peeled
    - deveined, chopped in bite
    - sized pieces
    1/4 lb Sea scallops*; uncooked
    1/4 ts Salt; divided
    1 tb Olive oil
    1/2 c Whole milk ricotta cheese
    Fresh ground black pepper
    2/3 c Shredded mozzarella cheese
    2 tb Grated Parmesan cheese
    1/4 ts Dried oregano
    1 Handful sliced red onion
    1 tb Butter
    Chopped parsley; garnish

    Place a pizza stone in the oven and heat to 500-|F/260-|C.
    OR set your pizza oven @ 500-|F/260-|C.

    PREPARE THE TOPPINGS: Mince the garlic, reserving 1
    clove in a small bowl for later. Pat the shrimp and
    scallops dry and chop them into bite sized pieces. In a
    medium bowl, mix the shrimp and scallops with 1 clove of
    the minced garlic and 1/4 ts salt. In a medium skillet,
    heat 1 tablespoon olive oil on medium high heat. Cook
    the seafood for 1 to 2 minutes until mostly cooked
    through, stirring occasionally. When done, transfer
    to a bowl.

    In a small bowl, mix the ricotta with the rest of the
    salt and fresh ground black pepper to taste.

    BAKE THE PIZZA: When the oven is ready, dust a pizza
    peel with cornmeal or semolina flour. (If you donrCOt have
    a pizza peel, you can use a rimless baking sheet or the
    back of a rimmed baking sheet. But a pizza peel is well
    worth the investment!) Stretch the dough into a circle,
    then gently place the dough onto the pizza peel.

    Spread an even layer of the seasoned ricotta onto the
    dough with a spatula, then sprinkle on 1/4 cup of the
    mozzarella cheese. Add the shrimp and scallops,
    reserving the liquid at the bottom of the bowl. Top with
    the remaining 1/4 cup mozzarella cheese and Parmesan
    cheese. Top with red onion, oregano, and 2 pinches
    kosher salt.

    Use the pizza peel to carefully transfer the pizza onto
    the preheated pizza stone. Bake the pizza until the
    cheese and crust are nicely browned, about 5 to 7
    minutes in the oven (or 1 to 2 minutes in a pizza oven).

    Make the garlic butter and serve: Allow the pizza to
    cool for a minute or two while you make the garlic
    butter. In a small saucepan, melt 1 tablespoon butter
    with the reserved 1 minced garlic clove. Top the pizza
    with garlic butter and chopped parsley. Slice into
    pieces using a knife, and serve immediately (cutting it
    with a knife is easiest to cut through the shrimp).

    NOTES: * If you have access to bay scallops, you can use
    whole bay scallops to replace the chopped sea scallops.

    UDD NOTES: If/when I make this I will definitely use a
    layer of Onofrio's Basilico (http://www.onofrios.com)
    from my friend Joe anazzo. And fresh sliced basil on
    top.

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.acouplecooks.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Ben Collver on Tue Dec 5 15:46:47 2023
    Hi Ben,

    Re: Apricot-Almond Bread
    By: Ruth Haffly to Ben Collver on Sun Dec 03 2023 20:22:19

    Given that you're useing only one cup of flour, you probably need only
    half a cup of water.

    That's cool that you can remember so clearly a loaf of bread that you cooked one time many years ago. Sometimes my mind works that way too.
    And then suddenly, that river that went underground so long ago surprisingly resurfaces and i feel that "i've still got it!"

    Probably because it was a "one off" baking. I've really slacked off on
    making bread in the last few years--used to do it all the time, at one
    point, 8 loaves at a time (extras went into the freezer). It was easier
    to do it in quantity like that when our girls were small. Then Steve
    went into the Army and I lost my freezer so went down to only 2 loaves
    at a time, supplimented some while we were in Germany with all the yummy
    breads there. Came back to the States and 3 wrist surgeries in 2 years
    got me using an ABM for a while, then I went back to making 2 loaves at
    a time on a sort of regular basis. Did that until the last few years,
    maybe I'll get back into it this winter. Started baking bread back in
    1976 so have become pretty good at it. (G)

    Thanks! I bet it was closer to half a cup of water. Since
    different BC> flour has different absorbancy, i'd probably improvise
    and aim for BC> what i've already learned as optimal pizza dough
    consistency.

    Just keep playing around with the recipe and keep track of your best
    results. I use whole wheat flour as my main flour, both the hard winter
    wheat for general purpose baking and the soft, spring (pastry) wheat for
    quick breads, pie crusts, cake, etc. I also have rye flour on hand for
    the occaisional rye bread baking and will buy gluten free flours if I
    know I have to make something GF.


    I am house sitting and will be cooking for an elderly dog. Due to
    health problems, he has become very picky about what he will eat.
    His human family recently and discovered, thanks to Thanksgiving leftovers, that he is much more enthusiastic about eating food if
    it is warm and topped with gravy. So i will be making chicken &
    gravy dinners for him.

    Our cocker spaniel (Sam) ate almost any and every thing, not liking
    lettuce or peas but his favorite treat was popcorn. We adopted him when
    he was about 4 1/2 from a family with orders for Scotland who didn't
    want to put him thru a 6 month quarentine. We had him for about 8 years
    before gettting orders for Hawaii, with a 4 month quarentine. by then
    he'd developed a number of health issues and we weren't sure if he would survive the quarentine; long story short, neighbors down the street
    adopted him. Sam always liked gravy on his dry food but we didn't always
    have it, not the makings of it (and sometimes a time crunch). Found out
    that if we put a bit of warm water on his food, he'd think it was gravy
    and scarf it down--you might want to try that a time or two and see how
    he reacts. If nothing else, maybe a bit of stock or broth, just warmed
    a bit, might work.

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    Ruth
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  • From Ben Collver@1:124/5016 to Ruth Haffly on Wed Dec 6 11:06:53 2023
    Re: Apricot-Almond Bread
    By: Ruth Haffly to Ben Collver on Tue Dec 05 2023 15:46:47

    Probably because it was a "one off" baking. I've really slacked off on making bread in the last few years--used to do it all the time, at one point, 8 loaves at a time (extras went into the freezer). It was easier
    to do it in quantity like that when our girls were small.

    Wow, 8 loaves is a lot to cook at once! Did you fit 8 loaf pans into the
    oven all at once? Mom used to make home-made bread and with our large
    family we could easily finish 4 loaves within a week.

    Just keep playing around with the recipe and keep track of your best results. I use whole wheat flour as my main flour, both the hard winter wheat for general purpose baking and the soft, spring (pastry) wheat for quick breads, pie crusts, cake, etc.

    Last night i made cast iron skillet pizza and was quite pleased with the results. I used a blend of AP and WW flour and i used 1/2 c water. I
    took the initiative and added 1 ts of sugar to encourage the yeast. The yeasties were a cheerful bunch and vigorously raised the dough.

    If nothing else, maybe a bit of stock or broth, just warmed
    a bit, might work.

    Thanks for that tip. There's some leftover broth in the refrigerator
    and i could try that, or possibly thicken it with some starch to make
    gravy.
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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ben Collver on Thu Dec 7 05:31:00 2023
    Ben Collver wrote to Ruth Haffly <=-

    Probably because it was a "one off" baking. I've really slacked off on making bread in the last few years--used to do it all the time, at one point, 8 loaves at a time (extras went into the freezer). It was easier
    to do it in quantity like that when our girls were small.

    Wow, 8 loaves is a lot to cook at once! Did you fit 8 loaf pans into
    the oven all at once? Mom used to make home-made bread and with our
    large family we could easily finish 4 loaves within a week.

    8 standard loaf pans is a breeze in a full sized oven. Heck if you plan it right you could likely get them all on one rack. Although I can't speak for
    how the baking would go. My mind tells me crowding it all on one rack or
    level would inhibit it from baking properly.

    If I'm making the bread just for myself I will let the bread machine do
    the whole Megilla. If I'm making it to give away or serve to guests then
    I'll do the dough cycle in the ABM and finish in loaf pans - or in the
    case of specialty breads, sheet pans.

    At 81 I've little left to prove and no one I need to impress. So it's
    all about convenience. Bv)=

    Here's one I've posted before - when I first made this the beefsteak
    tomatoes were ripe and ready for picking so my housemate and I made up sandwiches with freshly sliced bread right from the bread machine (I
    got fancy later) slathered with butter and beefsteak tomato slabs cut
    1/4" or more thick. Hawg Heaven!

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    Title: Rustic Italian Cheese Bread
    Categories: Breads, Herbs, Cheese
    Yield: 12 Servings

    1 c Warm water; 125ºF/52ºC
    2 tb Olive oil
    3 c Unbleached flour
    2 ts Sugar
    1/2 ts Salt
    1 ts Italian seasoning mix
    1/4 ts Garlic granules
    1 Packet cheese mix from a box
    - of generic Mac & Cheese.
    1 pk Active dry yeast
    Cornmeal
    1 Egg white; beaten

    Place ingredients except cornmeal & egg white in bread
    machine pan according to manufacturer's directions.
    Process on dough setting.

    Sprinkle ungreased cookie sheet with cornmeal. At end
    of dough cycle, remove dough from machine; place on a
    lightly floured surface. Punch down dough (If dough
    is sticky, knead in additional flour before shaping).

    Shape dough into baguette-shaped loaf about 12" long.
    Place loaf on cornmeal-coated sheet. Cover; let rise
    in warm place, 80-85ºF/27-29ºC, for 20-25 minutes or
    until light and doubled in size.

    Heat oven to 375ºF/190ºC. With a sharp knife, make
    one deep lengthwise slash in top of loaf. Brush loaf
    with egg white.

    Bake for 25-35 minutes or until loaf sounds hollow
    when lightly tapped.

    Makes one 12 slice loaf.

    NOTE: You can also let the bread machine do the baking
    for you - but the loaf won't look "rustic". It will, of
    course, taste just as good. - UDD

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  • From Ben Collver@1:124/5016 to Dave Drum on Thu Dec 7 11:32:36 2023
    Re: Re: Apricot-Almond Bread
    By: Dave Drum to Ben Collver on Thu Dec 07 2023 05:31:00

    At 81 I've little left to prove and no one I need to impress. So it's
    all about convenience. Bv)=

    I know someone much older than me who only eats the best. If something
    turns out not to be the best, then they won't waste their time eating
    it. So they get maximum enjoyment and food quality.

    Being nearly broke, i follow a frugal philosophy. Whatever i get my
    hands on, if it's not spoiled then i try to find ways to make use of
    it. For example, if it's canned soup that is way too salty, then i
    incorporate it into a batch of homemade soup in a crockpot.

    Here's one I've posted before - when I first made this the beefsteak tomatoes were ripe and ready for picking so my housemate and I made up sandwiches with freshly sliced bread right from the bread machine (I
    got fancy later) slathered with butter and beefsteak tomato slabs cut
    1/4" or more thick. Hawg Heaven!

    Yum! That sounds super delicious. Ripe home-grown tomatoes and bread
    steaming hot fresh from the oven or bread machine. How does it get any
    better than that?
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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ben Collver on Fri Dec 8 05:14:00 2023
    Ben Collver wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I know someone much older than me who only eats the best. If something turns out not to be the best, then they won't waste their time eating
    it. So they get maximum enjoyment and food quality.

    Being nearly broke, i follow a frugal philosophy. Whatever i get my
    hands on, if it's not spoiled then i try to find ways to make use of
    it. For example, if it's canned soup that is way too salty, then i incorporate it into a batch of homemade soup in a crockpot.

    I have always done that. I'm not a huge fan of Max n Cheeze for example.
    But the macaroni can go for chilli-mac (a couplr boxes worth) with a can
    of really inexpensive (bought on closeout) Hormel or Wolf Brand chilli.

    And there are always places where that packet of cheezoid come in handy.

    When I returned to college as Illinois opened their "Commuinity College"
    system I wrote an advice book (actually a collection od newspaper columns) titled "Advice For The Newly Single Man" It gave cooking/entertaining on
    a "budget" tips and recipes tht were good and seemed to have ued much
    more $$$ than was actually spent. Some day I'll come across one of those
    and bring it home with me for preservation.

    Here's a link to a video I saw some years ago trying which canned chilli
    was best. My town (Springfield, IL) is also, by procalmation of the state legislature "Chilli Capital of the Civilized Universe". We had severa; makers/canners of chilli here including a pair of brothers - Ray and Joe DeFrates. Their chilli is still being canned - just not in springfield.
    I was friends with Joe DeFrates who started Chilli Man Chilli. And I've
    been known to hang outn with Jay Nichole, the current owner of Ray's
    Chilli (Ray DeFrates).

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHWHcZcllLU&t=80s

    There are a series of "2 Bald Guys" critiques of varios foods available
    from You Toob.

    Here's a recipe for good ol' greasy Springfield Tavern Red. I've made
    (and eaten it) several times. Some form of this recipe is the best to be
    had tavern chilli around. But when I make it it's for uses (as noted) as
    Coney Island hot dog sauce. 8V)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Smitty's Famous Lawson's Tavern Chilli
    Categories: Beef, Herbs, Chilies
    Yield: 1 Pot

    4 1/2 lb (to 5 lb) ground suet
    4 lb Coarse ground beef; this is
    - sometimes called chilli
    - chuck. Hamburger does not
    - work very well; it tends
    - to get too crisp.
    4 3/8 oz (3/4 cup) chilli spice mix
    2 tb Salt; more to taste
    3/4 tb Garlic powder
    1 ts Ground oregano
    2 ts Red pepper
    1 tb Ground cumin; more to taste
    Beans *

    Use a 9 to 10 quart iron kettle. Render the suet first.
    Put in a cup of water to get it started to melt and
    prevent sticking. Keep it boiling and stir constantly.
    When mixture stops foaming, skim off all foam. Continue
    cooking until suet looks like oil. Cracklings can be
    left in, if desired. If they taste strong, they should
    be omitted. Let oil cool until meat does not splatter
    when added.

    Add meat, breaking up with a potato masher or large
    spoon, while cooking. Always stir constantly. Cook until
    med/well done, but not crisp. Mix powdered ingredients
    and add them a few minutes before meat is done. Keep
    stirring. Don't let it stick to the bottom of the kettle.

    * BEANS: Beans, which are very important, are cooked
    separately from the meat. Small red beans (although hard
    to find) are best to use. Don't use kidney beans. Brooks
    hot chilli beans are the next best choice.

    Cooked beans are better if prepared at least 24 hours
    prior to serving. They will provide their own juice
    during cooking.

    SERVING: Place heated beans in bowl first. Top with 3
    to 4 tablespoons of chilli meat. Let the consumer do the
    mixing. Serve with crackers, etc.

    STORING CHILLI MEAT: Strain meat from oil; pour oil into
    small cake pans. Divide meat mixture into cake pans. Let
    cool until solid. Place pans in refrigerator or freezer
    for a few hours or a day. They can be removed easily by
    heating in a little hot water or moving pan over hot
    flame.

    Remove bricks from pans; seal tightly with butcher paper
    or plastic wrap. Do not use aluminum foil or leave in
    pan, as spices can eat through aluminum.

    These bricks can be stored in refrigerator for a couple
    of weeks or for a year in a freezer (if well wrapped).
    Slice off only the amount of brick you want to use;
    rewrap and refrigerate.

    NOTE: This chilli meat makes super Coney Island hot
    dogs.

    From: http://www.patriotledger.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Ben Collver on Thu Dec 7 14:40:29 2023
    Hi Ben,

    making bread in the last few years--used to do it all the time, at one point, 8 loaves at a time (extras went into the freezer). It was easier
    to do it in quantity like that when our girls were small.

    Wow, 8 loaves is a lot to cook at once! Did you fit 8 loaf pans into
    the oven all at once? Mom used to make home-made bread and with our

    No, I had 4 pans so I'd shape 4 loaves worth and put it in the pans, let
    rise and bake. The extra dough would go into the fridge until the first
    set came out of the oven, then I'd shape the last 4 and repeat. The week
    before our younger daughter was born, over 2 days I did 2 batches to
    hold us thru the first few weeks of a toddler and new born.

    large BC> family we could easily finish 4 loaves within a week.

    My mom rarely baked bread; when she did, it was only 2 loaves and they
    would be gone within a couple of days. She said that she didn't want to
    have to be baking it all the time; I told her that we went thru it so
    fast because it was a novelty. If we'd had it as our regular bread, we'd
    have been so used to it that it would have lasted longer (I had 4
    siblings) but she never took the hint. She did get an ABM (smallest size available) after all of us kids had left the house but even then, didn't
    use it that much. Dad used it more, came across a recipe for beer bread.
    When they came to visit us, he raved about it, even bought a bottle of
    beer for us to try. We did, after they went home, and it was the worst
    tasting bread we'd ever had; I don't remember if we even finished the
    loaf.

    Just keep playing around with the recipe and keep track of your best results. I use whole wheat flour as my main flour, both the hard
    winter RH> wheat for general purpose baking and the soft, spring
    (pastry) wheat for RH> quick breads, pie crusts, cake, etc.

    Last night i made cast iron skillet pizza and was quite pleased with
    the results. I used a blend of AP and WW flour and i used 1/2 c
    water. I
    took the initiative and added 1 ts of sugar to encourage the yeast.
    The yeasties were a cheerful bunch and vigorously raised the dough.

    Sounds like you've hit on the right amount of water for that flour mix.
    Yeast loves sugar in any form so feel free to play around with various sweeteners--honey, molasses, raw sugar, etc. I just mixed up a batch of chocolate crinkle cookies for an exchange this week end at church. The
    recipe calls for 2 tsp of vanilla; I use one tsp each of vanilla and
    peppermint extract. Gives them just the hint of peppermint to balance
    the chocolate.

    If nothing else, maybe a bit of stock or broth, just warmed RH> a
    bit, might work.

    Thanks for that tip. There's some leftover broth in the refrigerator
    and i could try that, or possibly thicken it with some starch to make gravy.

    The starch would work for a good gravy but work on reducing the amount
    so that eventually it's back to just broth. What kind of a dog is it? We
    had a Bichon Frise for a few years, then some years later got the Cocker Spaniel. Had several cats betw'xt and between, then my pulmonologist in
    HI gave me a choice--cat or dog OR breathe. Much as I'd like another
    animal, we went with choice #2 and now just get fuzz therapy whenever we
    visit someone with pets.

    ---
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    Ruth
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  • From Ben Collver@1:124/5016 to Ruth Haffly on Fri Dec 8 13:09:33 2023
    Re: Apricot-Almond Bread
    By: Ruth Haffly to Ben Collver on Thu Dec 07 2023 14:40:29

    Hi Ruth,

    What kind of a dog is it? We
    had a Bichon Frise for a few years, then some years later got the Cocker Spaniel. Had several cats betw'xt and between, then my pulmonologist in
    HI gave me a choice--cat or dog OR breathe. Much as I'd like another animal, we went with choice #2 and now just get fuzz therapy whenever we visit someone with pets.

    He's half chihuahua and half terrier. Bigger than a chihuahua and cuter
    than a terrier. His personality is friendly, mellow, and silent. He loves
    to socialize with other dogs and people while we are out on walks. I enjoy seeing other people light up when they interact with him.

    Funny term, fuzz therapy. :-)

    I am happy to enjoy children and pets vicariously and for well-defined
    periods of time.
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  • From Ben Collver@1:124/5016 to Dave Drum on Fri Dec 8 13:22:22 2023
    Re: Frugal was: Apricot-Almon
    By: Dave Drum to Ben Collver on Fri Dec 08 2023 05:14:00

    When I returned to college as Illinois opened their "Commuinity College" system I wrote an advice book (actually a collection od newspaper columns) titled "Advice For The Newly Single Man" It gave cooking/entertaining on
    a "budget" tips and recipes tht were good and seemed to have ued much
    more $$$ than was actually spent. Some day I'll come across one of those and bring it home with me for preservation.

    Cool project! I would be willing to help you digitize that book and post it
    on archive.org if you are interested.
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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ben Collver on Sat Dec 9 06:10:57 2023
    Ben Collver wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    When I returned to college as Illinois opened their "Commuinity College" system I wrote an advice book (actually a collection od newspaper columns) titled "Advice For The Newly Single Man" It gave cooking/entertaining on
    a "budget" tips and recipes tht were good and seemed to have ued much
    more $$$ than was actually spent. Some day I'll come across one of those and bring it home with me for preservation.

    Cool project! I would be willing to help you digitize that book and
    post it on archive.org if you are interested.

    I have checked (some years ago) and found that when Lincoln Land Community College moved from the temporary campus and left the "Tinker Toy Tech" bulidins, etc. behind that not all (if any) of the archives of the "Lamp"
    made it to the new permanent campuis.

    And the "book" was 128 pages with a paper cover, stapled into 5 1/2"
    by 8 1/2" folio. Since this was nearly 60 years ago I sort of doubt
    any have lived through the wear and tear of the ravages of life.

    Thanks for the offer though. Here's a recipe I first published in the
    "Lamp" in an outdoors column I wrote onder a pen name. The "Thunder
    Belly" given as a source was an actual person.

    MMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Campfire Trout
    Categories: Five, Seafood, Vegetables
    Yield: 4 Servings

    4 (6 - 8 oz) fresh caught
    - rainbow trout; gutted,
    - heads optional
    2 Handsful wild onion greens
    - or chives
    Salt & Pepper
    Lemon juice

    First catch your trout - if you don't you go hungry.

    Gut the fish and stuff the cavity with onion/chive
    greens.

    Make a thick mud using river water and dirt from the
    bank. Pack the stuffed fish into a coating and place
    in the coals of your campfire, surrounding the entire
    packet.

    When the mud has baked hard the fish is done. Break
    open and discard the mud - taking care not to get bits
    into the cavity. The scales of the fish will come away
    with the mud.

    Season with salt & pepper and lemon juice and ENJOY!!!

    First made by me on the Kern River between Bodfish and
    Johnsondale, California in July 1966.

    RECIPE FROM: Walt "Thunder Belly" Turner

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Ben Collver on Sat Dec 9 22:52:07 2023
    Hi Ben,


    What kind of a dog is it? We
    had a Bichon Frise for a few years, then some years later got the Cocker Spaniel. Had several cats betw'xt and between, then my pulmonologist in
    HI gave me a choice--cat or dog OR breathe. Much as I'd like another animal, we went with choice #2 and now just get fuzz therapy whenever we visit someone with pets.

    He's half chihuahua and half terrier. Bigger than a chihuahua and
    cuter than a terrier. His personality is friendly, mellow, and
    silent. He loves to socialize with other dogs and people while we are
    out on walks. I enjoy seeing other people light up when they interact with him.

    Sounds like a fun one to have around--and the terrier cancels out the hyperactivity of the chihuahua. I've referred to that breed as "a
    nervous breakdown on 4 paws". (G)


    Funny term, fuzz therapy. :-)

    Getting to have the enjoyment of a pet, even if it's not ours, for a
    short time. I'd like a cat or dog but.............so I'll enjoy those
    that belong to others when I can.


    I am happy to enjoy children and pets vicariously and for well-defined periods of time.

    Very understandable. The ladies of our church had a cookie exchange this afternoon; the lady that organised it had us break into 2 teams to
    decorate pre made gingerbread houses. The 2 kids (5 and 3) of another
    lady (her husband was working upstairs, had the kids with him) were
    judges--our team won. It was fairly simply decorated with just a bit of
    what was offered and we even repaired the broken wall on our house. Fun
    time and we all came home with several different cookies. I made
    chocolate crinkles with a hint of mint--I always sub one teaspoon of
    peppermint extract for one of the 2 teaspoons of vanilla.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:229/452 to Ruth Haffly on Thu Dec 7 05:25:27 2023
    the occaisional rye bread baking and will buy gluten free flours if I
    know I have to make something GF.

    After this thread I was talking to Andrea last night and she is sick and
    tired of the price of the GF breads so I'm going to start making the
    bread again. I stopped a few years back when the GF loaves were
    available everywhere.

    I will admit I cheat a bit and use the bread machine to do the work then
    I transfer into a pan and bake in the oven. I don't like the way the
    machine bakes GF bread always comes out in a weird shape.

    that if we put a bit of warm water on his food, he'd think it was
    and scarf it down--you might want to try that a time or two and see

    Our old cat Mikey was like this. He loved gravy but always wasn't the brightest so thought warm water was the same thing. :)


    |09S|11hawn


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  • From Ben Collver@1:124/5016 to Ruth Haffly on Sun Dec 10 14:05:01 2023
    Re: Apricot-Almond Bread
    By: Ruth Haffly to Ben Collver on Sat Dec 09 2023 22:52:07

    time and we all came home with several different cookies. I made
    chocolate crinkles with a hint of mint--I always sub one teaspoon of peppermint extract for one of the 2 teaspoons of vanilla.

    What a cool idea to have a cookie exchange! I'll file that away for
    later.

    Chocolate crinkles with a hint of mint sounds delicious to me. I'd
    eat that. :-9
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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to BEN COLLVER on Sun Dec 10 18:40:00 2023
    time and we all came home with several different cookies. I made chocolate crinkles with a hint of mint--I always sub one teaspoon of peppermint extract for one of the 2 teaspoons of vanilla.

    Chocolate crinkles with a hint of mint sounds delicious to me. I'd
    eat that. :-9

    You are right, that does sound delicious.

    Mike


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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Shawn Highfield on Mon Dec 11 07:27:38 2023
    Shawn Highfield wrote to Ruth Haffly <=-

    the occaisional rye bread baking and will buy gluten free flours if I
    know I have to make something GF.

    After this thread I was talking to Andrea last night and she is sick
    and tired of the price of the GF breads so I'm going to start making
    the bread again. I stopped a few years back when the GF loaves were available everywhere.

    I will admit I cheat a bit and use the bread machine to do the work
    then I transfer into a pan and bake in the oven. I don't like the way
    the machine bakes GF bread always comes out in a weird shape.

    That's not a "cheat". That's using your "loaf". I thought everybody did
    that who didn't like round loaves with a big hole gouged out of one end
    where the mixing paddle went. Bv)+

    that if we put a bit of warm water on his food, he'd think it was
    and scarf it down--you might want to try that a time or two and see

    Our old cat Mikey was like this. He loved gravy but always wasn't the brightest so thought warm water was the same thing. :)

    I had a cat once (she adopted me) who wojuld lick the sauce off of
    spaghetti and leave to meat behind. I named her Sopt because she followed
    me around like a pooch. I really hated it when she got kitty aids and
    had to be put down. Only pet I ever had I put a stone up for.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Black Cat Pie
    Categories: Pies, Desserts, Chocolate, Nuts
    Yield: 6 Servings

    1 (9") deep dish pie shell
    1/2 lb Butter
    2 lg Eggs
    1/2 c Flour
    1/2 c White sugar
    1/2 c Brown sugar
    6 oz Chocolate chips
    1 c Nuts; walnuts, cashews, or
    - pecans, chopped

    Melt the butter and set aside. Beat the eggs until foamy.
    Mix in the four and sugars. Pour in oleo and bend well. Stir
    in chocolate chips and nuts. Fill the pie shell and bake at
    325ºF/165ºC for 1 hour.

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

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  • From Ben Collver@1:124/5016 to Dave Drum on Mon Dec 11 11:50:29 2023
    Re: Re: Apricot-Almond Bread
    By: Dave Drum to Shawn Highfield on Mon Dec 11 2023 07:27:38

    Title: Black Cat Pie
    325ºF/165ºC for 1 hour.

    Something i've been meaning to ask you is about these degree signs.
    When i save the recipe to disk, these particular characters end up
    as º or in Unicodese U+00BA ORDINAL INDICATOR. I have been
    translating them to ° AKA U+00B0 DEGREE SIGN. Do you know how
    they ended up being the ordinal indicator in the first place? No
    big deal, i am just curious.

    And in some of your other posts, the degree signs show up as
    ø U+00F8 LATIN SMALL LETTER O WITH STROKE

    I figure these are probably posts from different editors, BBS's,
    etc.
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Shawn Highfield on Mon Dec 11 17:02:31 2023
    Hi Shawn,

    the occaisional rye bread baking and will buy gluten free flours if I
    know I have to make something GF.

    After this thread I was talking to Andrea last night and she is sick
    and tired of the price of the GF breads so I'm going to start making
    the
    bread again. I stopped a few years back when the GF loaves were
    available everywhere.

    Probably much higher than it should be. We use GF bread at church for
    the Lord's Supper (communion) but the congregation is small enough, that
    only a couple of slices are needed. The small amount we get is tasty but
    I don't know if I'd want it full time, unless I had to go GF.


    I will admit I cheat a bit and use the bread machine to do the work
    then I transfer into a pan and bake in the oven. I don't like the way
    the
    machine bakes GF bread always comes out in a weird shape.

    Even "regular" bread comes out in wierd shapes sometimes. I've got a
    machine that makes the standard shape loaf so sometimes I will pull it
    out and shape it a bit just before it goes into second rise. The machine
    has 2 paddles so we get 2 holes in the bottom but they're not so bad if
    I pre shape the dough somewhat.

    that if we put a bit of warm water on his food, he'd think it was >
    and scarf it down--you might want to try that a time or two and see

    Our old cat Mikey was like this. He loved gravy but always wasn't the brightest so thought warm water was the same thing. :)

    Sounds like Sam; he wasn't the brightest dog. He was AKC registered so I
    said that he was AKC except for his brain. He was good comic relief tho.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Ben Collver on Mon Dec 11 17:10:52 2023
    Hi Ben,

    Re: Apricot-Almond Bread
    By: Ruth Haffly to Ben Collver on Sat Dec 09 2023 22:52:07

    time and we all came home with several different cookies. I made
    chocolate crinkles with a hint of mint--I always sub one teaspoon of peppermint extract for one of the 2 teaspoons of vanilla.

    What a cool idea to have a cookie exchange! I'll file that away for later.

    It's fun and you get to try other cookies that you wouldn't neccessarily
    make. I brought home just 2 of each of the other kinds since it's just
    the 2 of us, including a fruitcake cookie and one with peanut butter in
    it. (Steve will get both of those).


    Chocolate crinkles with a hint of mint sounds delicious to me. I'd
    eat that. :-9

    They are good; I don't sub the full amount of mint for vanilla because
    the mint flavor would be too strong for most people. I'd like it but
    don't know if many others would. Mint and chocolate go well together,
    IMO.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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