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    From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Wed Jul 26 06:18:02 2023
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Perhaps the record rainfall and flooding in the Maritime Provinces had something in the improvement of air quality coming from Canuckistan.

    It did, very much. Our air has pretty much cleard up again, until the winds shift to bring down more smoke. Had a nice thunderstorm in the
    wee small hours this morning.

    Just checked the air quality for today. It's green. It's green
    for SD> fire and smoke also. It's dark and cloudy...probably getting
    ready to SD> burst.

    I don't have to check a web site/phone app/T.V. talking head for air
    quality. I walk out the front door and check the haze. If it hasn't
    "burned off" by 9 ayem then it's not "ground fog" but smoke from other
    climes.

    The weatherman on the station we watch said that by the week end things will be clear here. Meanwhile, I'm staying inside as much as possible.

    I don't watch the boob tube - except for races ... and that very seldom.

    Anyone in the US can check their air quality by going to https://www.airnow.gov and entering their ZIP code.

    Good to know. I usually check Weather Underground on my phone; they're pretty good about local issues.

    I had W.U. for a while before my brother convinced me to get Weather
    Bug. It's a bit clunky but thorough and accurate.

    W.U. works well enough for me that until it breaks, I'm not going to
    try to fix it.

    I also have, on my FireFox (Mozilla) browser an extension called
    "Forecast Fox" which I have configured to put a bar on the lower right
    of my browser window(s). I shows me current and forecast temperatures, precipitation, etc, and (as I have it set) forecasts for a 4 day span
    and if I hover over the "globe" icon at the right side I get the current
    (last 15 minutes to present) animated weather radar from Accuweather.

    Hovering over a date gives expanded weather information - also from Accuweather. While it's a *free* extension I sent the developer a few
    $coot$ every year. If you (or anyone might be interested here's a link
    to more information:

    https://download.cnet.com/Forecastfox-Weather/3000-11745_4-10365641.html

    (salmon)
    We buy it from time to time but not all that often. Got some canned on
    the shelf that we need to use up, maybe some will go into fish cakes. I don't have a real recipe for them, just a mix of a mostly drained,
    picked over can of fish, chopped onion, egg or two, flour and/or bread crumbs basically--mix until it holds together, fry in a bit of oil
    until browned on both sides. Good with fried potatoes.

    The pricing of fresh salmon makes my throat slam shut most times. And
    the canned stuff reminds me of Puss & Bootsd canned cat food. Still,
    if Robert's Fish Market or Hy-Vee run a really good special I might
    make something like this:

    Title: Tomato Basil Salmon
    Categories: Five, Seafood, Vegetables, Herbs, Cheese
    Yield: 2 Servings

    We're happy with the canned from time to time but do like the fresh as well. Had a lot of the latter up in Alaska this past trip so we're
    taking a fish break for a bit.

    I fet along much better with non-oily fish. But, even that is easy to
    "tire" of. Then it's back to burger and pork chops and leg-o-lamb (if
    I find a good sale).

    I've only made this once ... it makes a *LOT*. Fortunately the leftovers re-heat well and/or you can slice it to make really good sandwiches.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Roast Leg Of Lamb
    Categories: Lamb/mutton, Herbs
    Yield: 10 Servings

    3 tb Coarse-grain mustard
    2 cl Garlic; minced *
    1 1/2 ts Dried rosemary; crushed
    1/2 ts Black pepper
    4 lb Leg of lamb; well trimmed,
    - boned, rolled & tied
    Mint jelly; (opt)

    Combine mustard, garlic, rosemary, and pepper. Rub
    mustard mixture over lamb. Place roast on meat rack in
    foil-lined shallow roasting pan.

    Set oven to @ 400ºF/205ºC. Roast 15 minutes. Reduce
    oven temperature to 325ºF/165ºC; roast about 20 minutes
    per pound for medium.

    Transfer roast to cutting board; cover with foil. Let
    stand 10 to 15 minutes before carving.

    Cut strings from roast; discard. Carve into 20 slices.

    Serve with mint jelly, if desired.

    * NOTE. For a more intense garlic flavor inside the
    meat, cut garlic into slivers. Cut small pockets at
    random intervals throughout roast with the tip of a
    sharp knife; insert the garlic slivers.

    ** NOTE 2. At this point the lamb may be covered and
    refrigerated up to 24 hours before roasting.

    Yield: 10 servings

    Serving size: 2 lamb slices (without mint jelly)

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.diabetesselfmanagement.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    MMMMM

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Wed Jul 26 17:07:30 2023
    Hi Dave,

    It did, very much. Our air has pretty much cleard up again, until the winds shift to bring down more smoke. Had a nice thunderstorm in the
    wee small hours this morning.

    Just checked the air quality for today. It's green. It's green
    for SD> fire and smoke also. It's dark and cloudy...probably getting
    ready to SD> burst.

    I don't have to check a web site/phone app/T.V. talking head for air quality. I walk out the front door and check the haze. If it hasn't "burned off" by 9 ayem then it's not "ground fog" but smoke from other climes.

    I'll get an idea of the full day's weather by checking W.U.; a peek
    outside will just give me immediate conditions. Steve pulled a Boston
    butt out of the freezer this morning; looking at his calendar and
    weather for the next week, we will probably be smoking it next Monday.


    The weatherman on the station we watch said that by the week end things will be clear here. Meanwhile, I'm staying inside as much as possible.

    I don't watch the boob tube - except for races ... and that very
    seldom.

    Ours is on for news, "Jeopardy" and in the summer, "America's Got
    Talent".

    (salmon)

    We're happy with the canned from time to time but do like the fresh as well. Had a lot of the latter up in Alaska this past trip so we're
    taking a fish break for a bit.

    I fet along much better with non-oily fish. But, even that is easy to "tire" of. Then it's back to burger and pork chops and leg-o-lamb (if
    I find a good sale).

    I've only made this once ... it makes a *LOT*. Fortunately the
    leftovers re-heat well and/or you can slice it to make really good sandwiches.

    We do a lot of chicken--Steve grilled some thighs last night with lemon
    pepper seasoning. We'll use them up tonight, with salad and probably applesauce--low fuss cooking.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Fri Jul 28 06:00:00 2023
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    It did, very much. Our air has pretty much cleard up again, until the winds shift to bring down more smoke. Had a nice thunderstorm in the
    wee small hours this morning.

    Just checked the air quality for today. It's green. It's green
    for fire and smoke also. It's dark and cloudy...probably getting
    ready to burst.

    I don't have to check a web site/phone app/T.V. talking head for air quality. I walk out the front door and check the haze. If it hasn't "burned off" by 9 ayem then it's not "ground fog" but smoke from other climes.

    I'll get an idea of the full day's weather by checking W.U.; a peek outside will just give me immediate conditions. Steve pulled a Boston
    butt out of the freezer this morning; looking at his calendar and
    weather for the next week, we will probably be smoking it next Monday.

    As I tend to live "in the moment" that's fine for me. Any major weather
    events or warnings I will get in whichever browser I am using (if I'm
    banging away on the keyboard) or by the "CODE RED Mobile Alert" app on
    my smarty-pants phone. Today's weather forecast has been all over the
    map - rain - no rain, temps forecat in a range between 98F and 106F. It
    stands that today's guesstiated high is 99F .... more than hot enough
    for me - by about 15 degrees. Bv)=

    The weatherman on the station we watch said that by the week end things will be clear here. Meanwhile, I'm staying inside as much as possible.

    I don't watch the boob tube - except for races ... and that very
    seldom.

    Ours is on for news, "Jeopardy" and in the summer, "America's Got
    Talent".

    I'm not a fan of the "Talking Heads" and never have been since the days
    of Walter Cronkite and the Huntley-Brinkley Report. Today's news outlets
    seem to be either far right (Faux News) or far left (MSNBC). And, as I'm
    a "Hey diddle diddle straight up the middle" guy (or try to be)I digest
    the internet's print news feeds to get a fairly realistic picture of the
    state of the non-sensationalised news.

    (salmon)

    We're happy with the canned from time to time but do like the fresh as well. Had a lot of the latter up in Alaska this past trip so we're
    taking a fish break for a bit.

    I get along much better with non-oily fish. But, even that is easy to "tire" of. Then it's back to burger and pork chops and leg-o-lamb (if
    I find a good sale).

    I've only made this once ... it makes a *LOT*. Fortunately the
    leftovers re-heat well and/or you can slice it to make really good sandwiches.

    We do a lot of chicken--Steve grilled some thighs last night with lemon pepper seasoning. We'll use them up tonight, with salad and probably applesauce--low fuss cooking.

    I'm currently experimenting with doing bacon wrapped franks in the over- the-stove nuker. I had to make a special trip to the store to get a box
    of toothpicks - since the metal skewers I'd use on the grill or in the
    oven cause major sparking and light shows in the microwave. Bv)=

    It's looking like 4 1/2 minutes is where I'll wind up. The bacon is as
    crispy as it needs to be without the hot dog having all the juices dried
    up by the trip through the experience.

    Someone gifted us with a plastic grocery sack of (obviously) home grown tomatoes the other day. I wish I knew who so I could thank them and/or
    return the favour. But no one admits to the deed. Still, I made this
    for lunch yesterday .... Varying from the recipe only in using wheat
    bread in place of the white called for. Next go I'm going to try using
    some Tony Chachere's (green can) Creole Seasoning in place of the specced Furikake. Should work well.

    ... Books are better than TV; they exercise your imagination.

    True dat. And why only give scant attention to the groove tube.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Furikake Tomato Sandwich
    Categories: Five, Breads, Vegetables
    Yield: 2 sandwiches

    Salt & fresh ground pepper
    1 lg Very ripe heirloom tomato;
    - thick sliced across
    4 sl Soft white sandwich bread *
    Mayonnaise; for spreading
    Furikake rice seasoning; to
    - sprinkle **

    Salt and pepper the tomato slices. Lightly toast the
    bread. (butter optional and not listed)

    Spread a generous amount of mayonnaise on each slice of
    bread, then sprinkle with furikake. Divide the tomato
    slices between 2 slices of bread, then sandwich with the
    remaining bread.

    Cut the sandwiches diagonally and eat immediately.

    * I used thick cut wheat bread from Hy-Vee's bakery.
    It worked out very nicely.

    ** You can find furikake, in all its flavor iterations,
    in most Asian supermarkets and online. In a pinch, you
    can also pulse in a mini food processor 1 (5-gram)
    packet roasted seaweed, 1 teaspoon coarse kosher salt
    and 1/2 ts granulated sugar until fine, then stir in
    2 teaspoons sesame seeds or everything bagel seasoning,
    and a pinch of MSG, such as Aji-No-Moto brand seasoning.

    By: Eric Kim

    Yield: 2 sandwiches

    RECIPE FROM: https://cooking.nytimes.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    MMMMM

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Dave Drum on Sat Jul 29 01:44:02 2023
    On 07-28-23 06:00, Dave Drum <=-
    spoke to Ruth Haffly about Air Quality <=-


    As I tend to live "in the moment" that's fine for me. Any major
    weather events or warnings I will get in whichever browser I am using
    (if I'm banging away on the keyboard) or by the "CODE RED Mobile Alert" app on my smarty-pants phone. Today's weather forecast has been all
    over the map - rain - no rain, temps forecat in a range between 98F and 106F. It stands that today's guesstiated high is 99F .... more than hot enough for me - by about 15 degrees. Bv)=

    Every evening for the past three days, we have gotten weather alerts on
    the TV. They talk about severe thunderstorms, hail, and 60 MPH winds --
    with the possibility of trees down and power outages. Sometimes that
    alert comes on about one hour after we look out the window to see trees swaying, lightning flashes and thunder.

    I'm not a fan of the "Talking Heads" and never have been since the
    days of Walter Cronkite and the Huntley-Brinkley Report. Today's news outlets seem to be either far right (Faux News) or far left (MSNBC).

    I agree, with CNN being at least giving lip service to being more on the
    middle road by having guest from the right.

    Someone gifted us with a plastic grocery sack of (obviously) home
    grown tomatoes the other day. I wish I knew who so I could thank them and/or return the favour. But no one admits to the deed. Still, I made

    I can guaranteee that it was not us, even if you lived next door. That
    Campari tomato plant we did from seed is growing quite well. It is
    about six feet high, but has only a few yellow flowers that show no
    signs of producing fruit. OTOH, our son took some of the seedlings and
    said that he had some green tomatoes a few weeks ago. I think that is a
    factor of our being inside and getting sunlight through a window, versus
    him planting outside in a full sun setting.


    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: Garden Tomato Salad
    Categories: Easy, salad
    Yield: 8 Servings

    3 lg Tomatoes cut in wedges
    1 lg Sweet onion cut in thin
    Wedges
    1 lg Cucumber, sliced

    MMMMM--------------------------DRESSING-------------------------------
    1/4 c Olive oil
    2 tb Cider vinegar
    1 ea Garlic clove, minced
    1 ts Fresh basil, minced
    1 ts Minced chives
    1/2 ts Salt

    Combine tomatoes, onion and cucumber in large bowl.

    In small bowl whisk dressing ingredients until blended. Drizzle over
    salad.

    Tested 9/3/17 Made serving for 2 as experiment
    Signature recipe of Shannon Arthur, Wheelersburg OH
    Taste of home web site.

    MMMMM


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  • From Dave Drum@1:261/38 to Dale Shipp on Sat Jul 29 06:43:30 2023
    Dale Shipp wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Every evening for the past three days, we have gotten weather alerts on the TV. They talk about severe thunderstorms, hail, and 60 MPH winds
    -- with the possibility of trees down and power outages. Sometimes
    that alert comes on about one hour after we look out the window to see trees swaying, lightning flashes and thunder.

    My local (owned by Mega-Congolmerator Sinclair Broadcasting) TeeVee ABC outlet is especially bad with their program interypptions and weather news that hardly news. All sensationalised, of course, and "worst case scenario-ed" on repeat.

    The weather forecasts (and bulletins) from the NBC outlet in nearby (35 miles) Decatur, IL are both less breathless/sensationalised and more accurate that those from the Sinclair weather bimbo.

    I'm not a fan of the "Talking Heads" and never have been since the
    days of Walter Cronkite and the Huntley-Brinkley Report. Today's news outlets seem to be either far right (Faux News) or far left (MSNBC).

    I agree, with CNN being at least giving lip service to being more on
    the middle road by having guest from the right.

    Those who claim "fair and balanced" are, generally, neither. Bv)=

    Someone gifted us with a plastic grocery sack of (obviously) home
    grown tomatoes the other day. I wish I knew who so I could thank them and/or return the favour. But no one admits to the deed. Still, I made

    I can guaranteee that it was not us, even if you lived next door. That Campari tomato plant we did from seed is growing quite well. It is
    about six feet high, but has only a few yellow flowers that show no
    signs of producing fruit. OTOH, our son took some of the seedlings and said that he had some green tomatoes a few weeks ago. I think that is
    a factor of our being inside and getting sunlight through a window,
    versus him planting outside in a full sun setting.

    Your no tomatoes/fruit problem is likely from the lack of pollinators (bugs/insects/bees) in your indoor environment. You can pollinate on your own using Q-Tips or similar. I'm sure there's a U-Toob video on "How To" as there is on many things. Bv)=

    Brian's plants, being out of doors are usinng the traditional pollination methods that nature designed. Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Chicken w/Tomatoes & Capers
    Categories: Poultry, Vegetables, Herbs, Wine
    Yield: 4 Servings

    4 Boned, skinned breasts or
    - thighs (about 2 1/4 lb)
    Salt & fresh ground white
    - pepper
    2 tb Olive oil
    2 tb Butter
    6 tb Fine chopped shallots
    2 ts Fine chopped garlic
    4 ts Fine chopped fresh tarragon
    +=OR=+
    2 ts Dried tarragon
    8 Ripe Campari tomatoes; in
    - small cubes
    +=OR=+
    28 oz Can diced tomatoes; drained
    1/4 c Red wine vinegar
    1/4 c Drained capers
    1 c Dry white wine or cider
    2 tb Tomato paste
    1/4 c Chopped fresh parsley leaves

    Sprinkle the chicken with salt and pepper. Heat the oil
    and butter in a heavy-bottom skillet. Add the chicken
    breasts and saute over medium-high heat, turning the
    pieces often until lightly browned, about 5 minutes.

    Add the shallots and garlic around the chicken. Cook
    briefly; add the tarragon, tomatoes, vinegar, capers,
    wine and tomato paste. Stir to dissolve the brown
    particles adhering to the bottom of the skillet.

    Blend well, bring to a boil, and then cover and simmer
    for 9 minutes. Sprinkle with parsley and serve.

    By: Pierre Franey

    Yield: 4 servings

    RECIPE FROM: https://cooking.nytimes.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    MMMMM

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Fri Jul 28 16:53:35 2023
    Hi Dave,


    (salmon)

    We're happy with the canned from time to time but do like the fresh as well. Had a lot of the latter up in Alaska this past trip so we're
    taking a fish break for a bit.

    I get along much better with non-oily fish. But, even that is easy to "tire" of. Then it's back to burger and pork chops and leg-o-lamb (if
    I find a good sale).

    I've only made this once ... it makes a *LOT*. Fortunately the
    leftovers re-heat well and/or you can slice it to make really good sandwiches.

    Nothing like a good tomato sandwich. Tradition is that it's just sliced tomatoes, Duke's mayo (some say Miracle Whip) and white bread, eaten
    standing over a sink. I'll have mine on whole wheat or sourdough miche
    bread, toasted, and add some lettuce and bacon.


    We do a lot of chicken--Steve grilled some thighs last night with lemon pepper seasoning. We'll use them up tonight, with salad and probably applesauce--low fuss cooking.

    I'm currently experimenting with doing bacon wrapped franks in the
    over- the-stove nuker. I had to make a special trip to the store to
    get a box of toothpicks - since the metal skewers I'd use on the grill
    or in the
    oven cause major sparking and light shows in the microwave. Bv)=

    I keep toothpicks on hand, both in the house and in the camper. Bacon
    wrapped franks sound good--add some baked beans as a side and maybe some
    bread (or use a bun) to sop up the juices.

    It's looking like 4 1/2 minutes is where I'll wind up. The bacon is as crispy as it needs to be without the hot dog having all the juices
    dried up by the trip through the experience.

    I'll have to remember it next time I get some hot dogs. Otherwise, I
    think everything else is on hand.

    Someone gifted us with a plastic grocery sack of (obviously) home
    grown tomatoes the other day. I wish I knew who so I could thank
    them DD> and/or DD> return the favour. But no one admits to the deed.

    Enjoy them; the season is all too short.


    Still, I made this DD> for lunch yesterday .... Varying from the recipe
    only in using wheat DD> bread in place of the white called for. Next go
    I'm going to try using DD> some Tony Chachere's (green can) Creole
    Seasoning in place of the DD> specced Furikake. Should work well.

    I've got a couple of jars (different combos of seasonings) of Furikake
    on hand--started buying it when we were in HI. I usually sprinkle a bit
    on cooked brown rice.

    ... Books are better than TV; they exercise your imagination.

    True dat. And why only give scant attention to the groove tube.

    I give some attention to it, not a lot tho.


    Title: Furikake Tomato Sandwich
    Categories: Five, Breads, Vegetables
    Yield: 2 sandwiches

    Salt & fresh ground pepper
    1 lg Very ripe heirloom tomato;
    - thick sliced across
    4 sl Soft white sandwich bread *
    Mayonnaise; for spreading
    Furikake rice seasoning; to
    - sprinkle **



    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Dave Drum on Sun Jul 30 01:28:06 2023
    On 07-29-23 06:43, Dave Drum <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Air Quality <=-

    Your no tomatoes/fruit problem is likely from the lack of
    pollinators (bugs/insects/bees) in your indoor environment.
    You can pollinate on your own using Q-Tips or similar. I'm
    sure there's a U-Toob video on "How To" as there is on many
    things. Bv)=

    We have been doing that whenever there is a blossom -- but there are
    only a few of them, and so far none have started a fruit.

    Brian's plants, being out of doors are usinng the
    traditional pollination methods that nature designed. Bv)=

    Another possible explanation can be that inside our apartment is not hot
    enough for them. I recently read that the Campari want at least 85F
    before they will fruit. We don't keep our apartment that high.


    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: Black Bean and Rice Salad
    Categories: Easy, Tested
    Yield: 6 Servings

    15 oz Can black beans, drained &
    -rinsed
    1 1/2 To
    1 3/4 c Cold cooked long grain white
    -rice
    1 1/2 c Chopped fresh tomatoes
    I would add more tomatoes
    4 ea Green onions, chopped
    OR
    1/3 c Diced red onion or to taste
    1 lg Celery rib, chopped
    1/2 c Chopped fresh spinach
    OR
    1/2 c Fresh basil, chopped
    1/2 c Italian salad dressing
    1 c Crumbled feta cheese

    I used fresh basil and fresh spinach - would recommend only one next
    time.

    In large bowl combine the drained and well rinsed beans, rice,
    tomatoes,celery. Add chopped spinach or basil. Pour dressing over
    mixture and toss to coat.

    Cover and refrigerate for one hour.

    Just before serving, sprinkle with cheese.

    Variation of Signature recipe of Kim Cook. Taste of Home Oct/Nov 2008

    Tested 9/28

    Very nice - I would add more tomatoes and more feta. Perhaps even
    some greek sliced olives as well.

    Will do again.

    MMMMM



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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Sun Jul 30 06:28:00 2023
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Nothing like a good tomato sandwich. Tradition is that it's just sliced tomatoes, Duke's mayo (some say Miracle Whip) and white bread, eaten standing over a sink. I'll have mine on whole wheat or sourdough miche bread, toasted, and add some lettuce and bacon.

    My most memorable tomato sandwich came about using beefsteak tomatoes
    from the backyard, still warm "Rustic Italian Cheese Bread" from the
    bread machine and (lots of) butter. I've posted that bread recipe here
    a few times. No mayo and most definitely no Miracle Wimp.

    We do a lot of chicken--Steve grilled some thighs last night with lemon pepper seasoning. We'll use them up tonight, with salad and probably applesauce--low fuss cooking.

    I'm currently experimenting with doing bacon wrapped franks in the
    over- the-stove nuker. I had to make a special trip to the store to
    get a box of toothpicks - since the metal skewers I'd use on the grill
    or in the oven cause major sparking and light shows in the microwave.
    Bv)=

    I keep toothpicks on hand, both in the house and in the camper. Bacon wrapped franks sound good--add some baked beans as a side and maybe
    some bread (or use a bun) to sop up the juices.

    Since I've got the china clippers I've had scant use for toothpicks
    except as mini-skewers. And I have metal skewers that I use for most
    purposes so I let them run out and not get replaced until this project
    came along.

    It's looking like 4 1/2 minutes is where I'll wind up. The bacon is as crispy as it needs to be without the hot dog having all the juices
    dried up by the trip through the experience.

    I'll have to remember it next time I get some hot dogs. Otherwise, I
    think everything else is on hand.

    Someone gifted us with a plastic grocery sack of (obviously) home
    grown tomatoes the other day. I wish I knew who so I could thank
    them and/or return the favour. But no one admits to the deed.

    Enjoy them; the season is all too short.

    If I'm raising them myself the season can stretch well into September
    and maybe October depending on the date of the fist "killing" frost.

    Still, I made this for lunch yesterday .... Varying from the
    recipe only in using wheat bread in place of the white called for.
    Next go I'm going to try using some Tony Chachere's (green can)
    Creole Seasoning in place of the specced Furikake. Should work well.

    I've got a couple of jars (different combos of seasonings) of Furikake
    on hand--started buying it when we were in HI. I usually sprinkle a bit
    on cooked brown rice.

    What I grabbed was Wasabi Furikake. I use it on French fries and a few
    other things. I keep, also, white miso and Shichimi Togarashi (rather
    like Furikake but "zippier")

    ... Books are better than TV; they exercise your imagination.

    True dat. And why only give scant attention to the groove tube.

    I give some attention to it, not a lot tho.

    Here's a recipe from a TeeVee channel that used to was a lot better
    than it is today. It's for restaurant sized quantities of stuff but it
    looks interesting. If I ever have occasion to cater/cook for a large
    group I might give it a go.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Da Famous "Broke Da Mouth" Garlic Furikake Chicken
    Categories: Poultry, Vegetables, Herbs, Rice, Chilies
    Yield: 8 servings

    MMMMM-------------------SWEET & SAVORY SAUCE-------------------------
    2 qt Brown sugar
    1/2 quart white sugar
    2 qt Soy sauce
    Fresh ground black pepper
    5 oz Minced garlic

    MMMMM----------------------FRIED CHICKEN-----------------------------
    1/2 ga Deep-frying cream-based oil
    5 lb Boned, skin-on, chicken
    - thighs
    1 lb A-P flour
    +=MIXED WITH=+
    Garlic powder; for dusting

    MMMMM-------------------------TO SERVE-------------------------------
    Steamed white rice
    Tuna-macaroni salad
    Avocado slices
    Sliced green onions
    Homemade Garlic Aioli
    Furikake
    Hawaiian Tangy Chili Peppa
    - Watah

    MMMMM------------------HOMEMADE GARLIC AIOLI-------------------------
    3 lg Eggs
    3 lg Egg yolks
    1 oz Sweet chile sauce
    1 oz Minced garlic
    1 oz Lemon juice
    1 qt Soybean oil
    Garlic salt & ground black
    - pepper

    MMMMM-------------HAWAIIAN TANGY CHILE PEPPA WATAH-------------------
    1 qt Apple cider vinegar
    3 oz Sweet chile sauce
    2 oz Sriracha chile-garlic sauce
    1 oz Garlic cloves
    1 oz Sea salt
    8 Hawaiian chile peppers

    SPECIAL EQUIPMENT: immersion blender

    RECIPE COURTESY OF: Broke Da Mouth Grindz

    FOR THE SWEET AND SAVORY SAUCE: Combine the brown sugar,
    white sugar, soy sauce and a sprinkle of black pepper in
    a braising pan with 4" sides. Whisk to dissolve, and
    then bring to a boil over high heat. Boil for 2 minutes.
    Let cool to room temperature, then whisk in the garlic.

    FOR THE FRIED CHICKEN: Heat the frying oil in a
    commercial deep fryer to 350ºF/175ºC.

    Dust the chicken thighs in the flour-garlic powder
    mixture. Place in the deep fryer until crispy golden
    brown, 12 to 15 minutes. Let the fried chicken drain in
    the deep fryer basket for 2 to 3 minutes.

    Submerge the fried chicken in the sweet and savory sauce
    for 2 minutes. Pull the chicken out of the sauce and cut
    in half.

    Served the fried chicken with steamed white rice and
    tuna macaroni salad on a bed of fresh avocado. Garnish
    with green onions, homemade garlic aioli and a confetti
    of furikake. Serve with our famous Hawaiian tangy chile
    peppa watah in a ramekin.

    HOMEMADE GARLIC AIOLI: Combine the eggs, egg yolks,
    chile sauce, garlic and lemon juice in a large mixing
    bowl or bain marie. Mix with an immersion blender. Add
    the soybean oil gradually and blend for 2 minutes.
    Season with garlic salt and pepper to your taste.

    HAWAIIAN TANGY CHILI PEPPA WATAH: Combine the vinegar,
    chile sauce, sriracha, garlic, salt and chile peppers in
    a large bowl. Use an immersion blender to incorporate
    the ingredients for 3 minutes. Chill for better results.

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.foodnetwork.com

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to DALE SHIPP on Sun Jul 30 09:17:00 2023
    Another possible explanation can be that inside our apartment is not hot enough for them. I recently read that the Campari want at least 85F
    before they will fruit. We don't keep our apartment that high.

    That could be. The cherry tomatoes I used to grow started going like gangbusters once the weather got real hot, so long as they got enough water.

    Mike


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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sun Jul 30 21:20:36 2023
    Hi Dave,


    Nothing like a good tomato sandwich. Tradition is that it's just sliced tomatoes, Duke's mayo (some say Miracle Whip) and white bread, eaten standing over a sink. I'll have mine on whole wheat or sourdough miche bread, toasted, and add some lettuce and bacon.

    My most memorable tomato sandwich came about using beefsteak tomatoes
    from the backyard, still warm "Rustic Italian Cheese Bread" from the
    bread machine and (lots of) butter. I've posted that bread recipe here
    a few times. No mayo and most definitely no Miracle Wimp.

    That sounds good but I've never heard of using butter instead of mayo.

    We do a lot of chicken--Steve grilled some thighs last night with lemon pepper seasoning. We'll use them up tonight, with salad and probably applesauce--low fuss cooking.

    I'm currently experimenting with doing bacon wrapped franks in the
    over- the-stove nuker. I had to make a special trip to the store to
    get a box of toothpicks - since the metal skewers I'd use on the grill
    or in the oven cause major sparking and light shows in the microwave.
    Bv)=

    I keep toothpicks on hand, both in the house and in the camper. Bacon wrapped franks sound good--add some baked beans as a side and maybe
    some bread (or use a bun) to sop up the juices.

    Since I've got the china clippers I've had scant use for toothpicks
    except as mini-skewers. And I have metal skewers that I use for most purposes so I let them run out and not get replaced until this project came along.

    OK, we both still have the teeth we were born with, minus wisdom teeth.
    I'm also missing one molar that had some problems; when the dentist saw
    it, he said that in his years of practice he'd seen that situation only
    2 or 3 times before. The tooth had to go. But, I still keep toothpicks
    on hand for teeth, times when either Steve or I need to apply just a
    drop of paint or glue to something, cleaning small cervaces, drawing a
    picture in cake frosting to fill in with another color of frosting, etc,
    etc.

    It's looking like 4 1/2 minutes is where I'll wind up. The bacon is
    as DD> crispy as it needs to be without the hot dog having all the
    juices DD> dried up by the trip through the experience.

    I'll have to remember it next time I get some hot dogs. Otherwise, I
    think everything else is on hand.

    Someone gifted us with a plastic grocery sack of (obviously) home
    grown tomatoes the other day. I wish I knew who so I could thank
    them and/or return the favour. But no one admits to the deed.

    Enjoy them; the season is all too short.

    If I'm raising them myself the season can stretch well into September
    and maybe October depending on the date of the fist "killing" frost.

    It went into early November the first year we planted tomatoes in AZ. I
    used up the last of them (green) in making green tomato relish just
    before Thanksgiving.

    Next go I'm going to try using some Tony Chachere's (green can)
    Creole Seasoning in place of the specced Furikake. Should work well.

    I've got a couple of jars (different combos of seasonings) of Furikake
    on hand--started buying it when we were in HI. I usually sprinkle a bit
    on cooked brown rice.

    What I grabbed was Wasabi Furikake. I use it on French fries and a few other things. I keep, also, white miso and Shichimi Togarashi (rather
    like Furikake but "zippier")

    Off the top of my head I'm not sure what varieties we have but I don't
    think they're wasabi. The store had a lot of different varieties; we
    just grabbed a couple.

    Here's a recipe from a TeeVee channel that used to was a lot better
    than it is today. It's for restaurant sized quantities of stuff but it

    I still watch it from time to time if we're spending the night in a
    motel and Steve is absorbed in his computer. We've also watched
    Discovery Channel shows sometimes, just as a wind down from a day on the
    road.

    looks interesting. If I ever have occasion to cater/cook for a
    large DD> group I might give it a go.


    Title: Da Famous "Broke Da Mouth" Garlic Furikake Chicken
    Categories: Poultry, Vegetables, Herbs, Rice, Chilies
    Yield: 8 servings

    I'd help you with it but don't know if I'd try doing it myself. It does
    look good tho.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From Dave Drum@1:229/452 to Ruth Haffly on Tue Aug 1 06:38:16 2023
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-


    Nothing like a good tomato sandwich. Tradition is that it's just sliced tomatoes, Duke's mayo (some say Miracle Whip) and white bread, eaten standing over a sink. I'll have mine on whole wheat or sourdough miche bread, toasted, and add some lettuce and bacon.

    My most memorable tomato sandwich came about using beefsteak tomatoes
    from the backyard, still warm "Rustic Italian Cheese Bread" from the
    bread machine and (lots of) butter. I've posted that bread recipe here
    a few times. No mayo and most definitely no Miracle Wimp.

    That sounds good but I've never heard of using butter instead of mayo.

    I generally do mayo but I seldom do just tomatoes as sandwich filler.
    This instance the salt in the butter (I used LOTS of butter on the warm
    bread) enhanced the tomato's flavour.

    We do a lot of chicken--Steve grilled some thighs last night with lemon pepper seasoning. We'll use them up tonight, with salad and probably applesauce--low fuss cooking.

    I just MMed a Taste of Home recipe for my "Daily Recipe" series. It's
    below as well as on top of my "reound tuit" list.

    I'm currently experimenting with doing bacon wrapped franks in the
    over- the-stove nuker. I had to make a special trip to the store to
    get a box of toothpicks - since the metal skewers I'd use on the grill
    or in the oven cause major sparking and light shows in the microwave.
    Bv)=

    I keep toothpicks on hand, both in the house and in the camper. Bacon wrapped franks sound good--add some baked beans as a side and maybe
    some bread (or use a bun) to sop up the juices.

    Since I've got the china clippers I've had scant use for toothpicks
    except as mini-skewers. And I have metal skewers that I use for most purposes so I let them run out and not get replaced until this project came along.

    OK, we both still have the teeth we were born with, minus wisdom teeth. I'm also missing one molar that had some problems; when the dentist saw it, he said that in his years of practice he'd seen that situation only
    2 or 3 times before. The tooth had to go. But, I still keep toothpicks
    on hand for teeth, times when either Steve or I need to apply just a
    drop of paint or glue to something, cleaning small cervaces, drawing a picture in cake frosting to fill in with another color of frosting,
    etc, etc.

    All the sorts of things I use the meatl skewers or a stylus for. Except
    I don't decorate cakes.

    It's looking like 4 1/2 minutes is where I'll wind up. The bacon is
    as DD> crispy as it needs to be without the hot dog having all the
    juices DD> dried up by the trip through the experience.

    I'll have to remember it next time I get some hot dogs. Otherwise, I
    think everything else is on hand.

    Someone gifted us with a plastic grocery sack of (obviously) home
    grown tomatoes the other day. I wish I knew who so I could thank
    them and/or return the favour. But no one admits to the deed.

    Enjoy them; the season is all too short.

    I have learned it was next door - who I didn't even know had a garden
    as it is masked from my view by her garage. She brought us another bag
    last evening. Yuuuuum.

    If I'm raising them myself the season can stretch well into September
    and maybe October depending on the date of the fist "killing" frost.

    It went into early November the first year we planted tomatoes in AZ. I used up the last of them (green) in making green tomato relish just
    before Thanksgiving.

    I've made "end of season" fried green tomatoes but not relish.

    Next go I'm going to try using some Tony Chachere's (green can)
    Creole Seasoning in place of the specced Furikake. Should work well.

    I've got a couple of jars (different combos of seasonings) of Furikake
    on hand--started buying it when we were in HI. I usually sprinkle a bit
    on cooked brown rice.

    What I grabbed was Wasabi Furikake. I use it on French fries and a few other things. I keep, also, white miso and Shichimi Togarashi (rather
    like Furikake but "zippier")

    Off the top of my head I'm not sure what varieties we have but I don't think they're wasabi. The store had a lot of different varieties; we
    just grabbed a couple.

    Yes, I know. I picked the wasabi because I wanted something with a bit
    of zip to it. And I had had wasabi before. Turns out there is some other zippiness along with the wasabi - not enough to blow your head off but
    it will get your attention.

    Here's a recipe from a TeeVee channel that used to was a lot better
    than it is today. It's for restaurant sized quantities of stuff but it

    I still watch it from time to time if we're spending the night in a
    motel and Steve is absorbed in his computer. We've also watched
    Discovery Channel shows sometimes, just as a wind down from a day on
    the road.

    looks interesting. If I ever have occasion to cater/cook for a
    large group I might give it a go.


    Title: Da Famous "Broke Da Mouth" Garlic Furikake Chicken
    Categories: Poultry, Vegetables, Herbs, Rice, Chilies
    Yield: 8 servings

    I'd help you with it but don't know if I'd try doing it myself. It does look good tho.

    Here's the chicken recipe I mentioned above ..........

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Crumb-Coated Ranch Chicken
    Categories: Five, Poultry, Breads, Herbs
    Yield: 4 servings

    2/3 c Ranch salad dressing
    2 c Coarse crushed cornflakes
    1 tb Italian seasoning mix
    1 1/2 ts Garlic granules
    4 (6 oz ea) boned,,skinned,
    - chicken breast halves or
    - thighs

    Set oven @ 400ºF/205ºC.

    Place salad dressing in a shallow bowl. In a separate
    shallow bowl, mix cornflakes, Italian seasoning and
    garlic powder. Dip chicken in dressing, then in
    cornflake mixture, patting to help coating adhere.

    Place on a greased baking sheet. Bake 30-35 minutes

    LaDonna Reed, Ponca City, Oklahoma

    Makes: 4 servings

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.tasteofhome.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Tue Aug 1 22:13:49 2023
    Hi Dave,

    bread machine and (lots of) butter. I've posted that bread recipe here
    a few times. No mayo and most definitely no Miracle Wimp.

    That sounds good but I've never heard of using butter instead of mayo.

    I generally do mayo but I seldom do just tomatoes as sandwich filler.
    This instance the salt in the butter (I used LOTS of butter on the
    warm bread) enhanced the tomato's flavour.

    A sprinkle (or twist of a grinder) of salt would work just as well, IMO.


    We do a lot of chicken--Steve grilled some thighs last night with lemon pepper seasoning. We'll use them up tonight, with salad and probably applesauce--low fuss cooking.

    I keep toothpicks on hand, both in the house and in the camper. Bacon

    Since I've got the china clippers I've had scant use for toothpicks
    except as mini-skewers. And I have metal skewers that I use for most purposes so I let them run out and not get replaced until this project came along.

    OK, we both still have the teeth we were born with, minus wisdom teeth. I'm also missing one molar that had some problems; when the dentist saw it, he said that in his years of practice he'd seen that situation only
    2 or 3 times before. The tooth had to go. But, I still keep toothpicks
    on hand for teeth, times when either Steve or I need to apply just a
    drop of paint or glue to something, cleaning small cervaces, drawing a picture in cake frosting to fill in with another color of frosting,
    etc, etc.

    All the sorts of things I use the meatl skewers or a stylus for.
    Except I don't decorate cakes.

    I don't decorate as many as I used to but it is something I've done from
    time to time. A toothpick will draw a fine line and you don't have to
    wash it up afterward. Same as using disposable decorating bags--less to
    clean up at the end.

    Someone gifted us with a plastic grocery sack of (obviously) home
    grown tomatoes the other day. I wish I knew who so I could thank
    them and/or return the favour. But no one admits to the deed.

    Enjoy them; the season is all too short.

    I have learned it was next door - who I didn't even know had a garden
    as it is masked from my view by her garage. She brought us another bag last evening. Yuuuuum.

    More to enjoy. Steve isn't eating too many tomatoes these days as it
    aggravates his arthritis (he will eat a marinara sauce) so I don't buy
    very many. We went out to a new branch of one of our favorite seafood
    places (Cape Fear Seafood Company; they opened a place in WF) the other
    night and he gave me all the tomatoes from his salad. Combined with all
    that were on mine, I probably had a couple of tomatoes plus the greens
    and everything else. Good thing I ordered the small portion of shrimp
    and grits. (G)

    If I'm raising them myself the season can stretch well into September
    and maybe October depending on the date of the fist "killing" frost.

    It went into early November the first year we planted tomatoes in AZ. I used up the last of them (green) in making green tomato relish just
    before Thanksgiving.

    I've made "end of season" fried green tomatoes but not relish.

    I like relish with some things and didn't have any on hand plus a friend
    gave me a recipe to try so...................

    What I grabbed was Wasabi Furikake. I use it on French fries and a few other things. I keep, also, white miso and Shichimi Togarashi (rather
    like Furikake but "zippier")

    Off the top of my head I'm not sure what varieties we have but I don't think they're wasabi. The store had a lot of different varieties; we
    just grabbed a couple.

    Yes, I know. I picked the wasabi because I wanted something with a bit
    of zip to it. And I had had wasabi before. Turns out there is some
    other zippiness along with the wasabi - not enough to blow your head
    off but
    it will get your attention.

    Here's a recipe from a TeeVee channel that used to was a lot better
    than it is today. It's for restaurant sized quantities of stuff but it

    I still watch it from time to time if we're spending the night in a
    motel and Steve is absorbed in his computer. We've also watched
    Discovery Channel shows sometimes, just as a wind down from a day on
    the road.

    looks interesting. If I ever have occasion to cater/cook for a
    large group I might give it a go.


    Title: Da Famous "Broke Da Mouth" Garlic Furikake Chicken
    Categories: Poultry, Vegetables, Herbs, Rice, Chilies
    Yield: 8 servings

    I'd help you with it but don't know if I'd try doing it myself. It does look good tho.

    Here's the chicken recipe I mentioned above ..........


    Title: Crumb-Coated Ranch Chicken
    Categories: Five, Poultry, Breads, Herbs
    Yield: 4 servings

    Down side of that is that ranch is one of our least favorite salad
    dressings.

    2/3 c Ranch salad dressing

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Thu Aug 3 05:20:00 2023
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    bread machine and (lots of) butter. I've posted that bread recipe here
    a few times. No mayo and most definitely no Miracle Wimp.

    That sounds good but I've never heard of using butter instead of mayo.

    I generally do mayo but I seldom do just tomatoes as sandwich filler.
    This instance the salt in the butter (I used LOTS of butter on the
    warm bread) enhanced the tomato's flavour.

    A sprinkle (or twist of a grinder) of salt would work just as well,
    IMO.

    True, that. But I had already slathered the bread with copious amounts
    of Bossy's Bounty and didn;t need the extra salt.

    We do a lot of chicken--Steve grilled some t

    8<----- SLICE ----->B

    All the sorts of things I use the meatl skewers or a stylus for.
    Except I don't decorate cakes.

    I don't decorate as many as I used to but it is something I've done
    from time to time. A toothpick will draw a fine line and you don't have
    to wash it up afterward. Same as using disposable decorating bags--less
    to clean up at the end.

    All I would do with a skewer after using it for cake decorating is to
    rinse under very hot running water, dry, and return to its storage spot.

    Someone gifted us with a plastic grocery sack of (obviously) home
    grown tomatoes the other day. I wish I knew who so I could thank
    them and/or return the favour. But no one admits to the deed.

    Enjoy them; the season is all too short.

    I have learned it was next door - who I didn't even know had a garden
    as it is masked from my view by her garage. She brought us another bag last evening. Yuuuuum.

    More to enjoy. Steve isn't eating too many tomatoes these days as it aggravates his arthritis (he will eat a marinara sauce) so I don't buy very many. We went out to a new branch of one of our favorite seafood places (Cape Fear Seafood Company; they opened a place in WF) the other night and he gave me all the tomatoes from his salad. Combined with all that were on mine, I probably had a couple of tomatoes plus the greens
    and everything else. Good thing I ordered the small portion of shrimp
    and grits. (G)

    Poor dude, allergic to corn and tomatoes react with his arthritis. I have arthritic hips - but taking a 1500 mg caplet of glucosamine keeps it's
    effects down to a dull roar. No more having to sleep sitting up or in
    the recliner.

    If I'm raising them myself the season can stretch well into September
    and maybe October depending on the date of the fist "killing" frost.

    It went into early November the first year we planted tomatoes in AZ. I used up the last of them (green) in making green tomato relish just
    before Thanksgiving.

    I've made "end of season" fried green tomatoes but not relish.

    I like relish with some things and didn't have any on hand plus a
    friend gave me a recipe to try so...................

    What I grabbed was Wasabi Furikake. I use it on French fries and a few other things. I keep, also, white miso and Shichimi Togarashi (rather
    like Furikake but "zippier")

    Off the top of my head I'm not sure what varieties we have but I don't think they're wasabi. The store had a lot of different varieties; we
    just grabbed a couple.

    Yes, I know. I picked the wasabi because I wanted something with a bit
    of zip to it. And I had had wasabi before. Turns out there is some
    other zippiness along with the wasabi - not enough to blow your head
    off but it will get your attention.

    Here's a recipe from a TeeVee channel that used to was a lot better
    than it is today. It's for restaurant sized quantities of stuff but it

    I still watch it from time to time if we're spending the night in a
    motel and Steve is absorbed in his computer. We've also watched
    Discovery Channel shows sometimes, just as a wind down from a day on
    the road.

    looks interesting. If I ever have occasion to cater/cook for a
    large group I might give it a go.

    Title: Da Famous "Broke Da Mouth" Garlic Furikake Chicken
    Categories: Poultry, Vegetables, Herbs, Rice, Chilies
    Yield: 8 servings

    I'd help you with it but don't know if I'd try doing it myself. It does look good tho.

    Here's the chicken recipe I mentioned above ..........

    Title: Crumb-Coated Ranch Chicken
    Categories: Five, Poultry, Breads, Herbs
    Yield: 4 servings

    Down side of that is that ranch is one of our least favorite salad dressings.

    2/3 c Ranch salad dressing

    It's just an ingredient in this case. It's pretty bland in any event.
    If I'm in a restaurant setting I'll generally order bleu cheese (using
    a ranch dressing-like base in most restaurants) or, if available red
    "Russian" dressing - which is *not8 Russian, being invented in New
    England by James Coburn in the early 20th century.

    Here's a "real" Russian dressing/sauce. According to Olgs'a notes "I
    call this sauce universal because it is great with everything; potatoes, meats, poultry, salads, pasta, ragu...you name it. However, this sauce
    goes the best with fish. Yes, fish. Just try it- it is delicious. You
    will never go back to ketchup or any other generic sauce."

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Universal Sauce
    Categories: Sauces, Vegetables, Cheese
    Yield: 1 /2 litre

    2 lg Tomatos,
    8 cl Garlic
    2 tb Butter
    2 tb Olive oil
    1 tb Tomato paste
    1 c Yellow cheese; shredded or
    - diced fine
    3 tb White wine or grape juice

    Melt the butter in a sauce pan and add olive oil. Mix in
    the cheese and stir till the mixture is smooth.

    Dice finely the tomatoes and add to the mixture.

    Dissolve the tomato paste in 1/2 of hot water and pour
    into the pan. Add wine to the mixture. Finally, slice
    every garlic clove and mix into the sauce. Stir the
    sauce over the medium heat for about 5 more minutes.

    By: Karina Kedrovsky

    RECIPE FROM: http://www.ruscuisine.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Thu Aug 3 16:21:59 2023
    Hi Dave,


    bread machine and (lots of) butter. I've posted that bread recipe here
    a few times. No mayo and most definitely no Miracle Wimp.

    That sounds good but I've never heard of using butter instead of mayo.

    I generally do mayo but I seldom do just tomatoes as sandwich filler.
    This instance the salt in the butter (I used LOTS of butter on the
    warm bread) enhanced the tomato's flavour.

    A sprinkle (or twist of a grinder) of salt would work just as well,
    IMO.

    True, that. But I had already slathered the bread with copious amounts
    of Bossy's Bounty and didn;t need the extra salt.

    True; I make my Butter Blend (3 sticks salted butter, 1 cup olive oil
    combined well in my KA mixer) with the salted butter. Originally tried
    it with unsalted butter and it just didn't taste right. Switched to
    salted butter and it tasted much better.


    8<----- SLICE ----->B

    All the sorts of things I use the meatl skewers or a stylus for.
    Except I don't decorate cakes.

    I don't decorate as many as I used to but it is something I've done
    from time to time. A toothpick will draw a fine line and you don't have
    to wash it up afterward. Same as using disposable decorating bags--less
    to clean up at the end.

    All I would do with a skewer after using it for cake decorating is to rinse under very hot running water, dry, and return to its storage
    spot.

    We have some metal skewers but they're bigger, can't get as fine a line
    as I can with a tooth pick for drawing in icing.


    Someone gifted us with a plastic grocery sack of (obviously) home
    grown tomatoes the other day. I wish I knew who so I could thank
    them and/or return the favour. But no one admits to the deed.

    Enjoy them; the season is all too short.

    I have learned it was next door - who I didn't even know had a garden
    as it is masked from my view by her garage. She brought us another bag last evening. Yuuuuum.

    More to enjoy. Steve isn't eating too many tomatoes these days as it aggravates his arthritis (he will eat a marinara sauce) so I don't buy very many. We went out to a new branch of one of our favorite seafood places (Cape Fear Seafood Company; they opened a place in WF) the other night and he gave me all the tomatoes from his salad. Combined with all that were on mine, I probably had a couple of tomatoes plus the greens
    and everything else. Good thing I ordered the small portion of shrimp
    and grits. (G)

    Poor dude, allergic to corn and tomatoes react with his arthritis. I

    He also goes easy on the white potatoes for the same reason. Anything in
    the nightshade family is a potential problem for him.

    have arthritic hips - but taking a 1500 mg caplet of glucosamine keeps it's
    effects down to a dull roar. No more having to sleep sitting up or in
    the recliner.

    He's using it; I tried it and it didn't do a thing for me. Meds help
    keep it down to a tolerable limit.


    If I'm raising them myself the season can stretch well into September
    and maybe October depending on the date of the fist "killing" frost.

    It went into early November the first year we planted tomatoes in AZ. I used up the last of them (green) in making green tomato relish just
    before Thanksgiving.

    I've made "end of season" fried green tomatoes but not relish.

    I like relish with some things and didn't have any on hand plus a
    friend gave me a recipe to try so...................

    looks interesting. If I ever have occasion to cater/cook for a
    large group I might give it a go.

    Title: Da Famous "Broke Da Mouth" Garlic Furikake Chicken
    Categories: Poultry, Vegetables, Herbs, Rice, Chilies
    Yield: 8 servings

    I'd help you with it but don't know if I'd try doing it myself. It does look good tho.

    Here's the chicken recipe I mentioned above ..........

    Title: Crumb-Coated Ranch Chicken
    Categories: Five, Poultry, Breads, Herbs
    Yield: 4 servings

    Down side of that is that ranch is one of our least favorite salad dressings.

    2/3 c Ranch salad dressing

    It's just an ingredient in this case. It's pretty bland in any event.

    I know, but if it's something we don't care for, I don't cook with it.


    If I'm in a restaurant setting I'll generally order bleu cheese (using
    a ranch dressing-like base in most restaurants) or, if available

    Too strong for me. Before we were married, Steve said that he liked bleu
    cheese dressing so I tried it. Thank you, but I'll stick with my
    favorite, 1,000 Islands, or French or Italian if the "islands" aren't available. Russian is harder to find when eating out but it's also an acceptable alternative.

    red DD> "Russian" dressing - which is *not8 Russian, being invented in
    New DD> England by James Coburn in the early 20th century.

    Here's a "real" Russian dressing/sauce. According to Olgs'a notes "I
    call this sauce universal because it is great with everything;
    potatoes, meats, poultry, salads, pasta, ragu...you name it. However,
    this sauce
    goes the best with fish. Yes, fish. Just try it- it is delicious. You
    will never go back to ketchup or any other generic sauce."

    Title: Universal Sauce DD> Categories: Sauces, Vegetables,
    Cheese DD> Yield: 1 /2 litre

    Interesting.........


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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Sat Aug 5 06:29:00 2023
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I generally do mayo but I seldom do just tomatoes as sandwich filler.
    This instance the salt in the butter (I used LOTS of butter on the
    warm bread) enhanced the tomato's flavour.

    A sprinkle (or twist of a grinder) of salt would work just as well,
    IMO.

    True, that. But I had already slathered the bread with copious amounts
    of Bossy's Bounty and didn;t need the extra salt.

    True; I make my Butter Blend (3 sticks salted butter, 1 cup olive oil combined well in my KA mixer) with the salted butter. Originally tried
    it with unsalted butter and it just didn't taste right. Switched to
    salted butter and it tasted much better.

    I assume that's for making spreadable butter? Salt enhances flavour(s).

    8<----- SLICE ----->B

    All I would do with a skewer after using it for cake decorating is
    rinse under very hot running water, dry, and return to its storage
    spot.

    We have some metal skewers but they're bigger, can't get as fine a line
    as I can with a tooth pick for drawing in icing.

    I have a selection of various lengths and thicknesses. The smallest are
    about 6" long and (about) 1/16" thick

    DD> Poor dude, allergic to corn and tomatoes react with his arthritis. I

    He also goes easy on the white potatoes for the same reason. Anything
    in the nightshade family is a potential problem for him.

    Oy! Vet is mir! My chilli cook friend Les has an allergy to raw tomatoes.
    When we lunch together I get the bounty. My only known food allergy is to banananas. I can manage it with a 50mg Benadryl - but it turns out I'm
    not a big fan of 'nanners anyway. Bv)=

    have arthritic hips - but taking a 1500 mg caplet of glucosamine keeps
    its effects down to a dull roar. No more having to sleep sitting up or
    in the recliner.

    He's using it; I tried it and it didn't do a thing for me. Meds help
    keep it down to a tolerable limit.

    I would do meds if I had to. But I much prefer natural or herbal help.

    8<----- SKIP ----->B

    I'd help you with it but don't know if I'd try doing it myself. It does look good tho.

    Here's the chicken recipe I mentioned above ..........

    Title: Crumb-Coated Ranch Chicken
    Categories: Five, Poultry, Breads, Herbs
    Yield: 4 servings

    Down side of that is that ranch is one of our least favorite salad dressings.

    2/3 c Ranch salad dressing

    It's just an ingredient in this case. It's pretty bland in any event.

    I know, but if it's something we don't care for, I don't cook with it.

    It a poor cook who can't suit him/her self.

    If I'm in a restaurant setting I'll generally order bleu cheese (using
    a ranch dressing-like base in most restaurants) or, if available

    Too strong for me. Before we were married, Steve said that he liked
    bleu cheese dressing so I tried it. Thank you, but I'll stick with my favorite, 1,000 Islands, or French or Italian if the "islands" aren't available. Russian is harder to find when eating out but it's also an acceptable alternative.

    I find that there are several variations on "Russian" dressing. I much
    prefer the red variety of the pink/orange versions.

    One of my favourite uses of blue-veined cheeses in salad dressing uses
    Thousand Islands as a base and has gorgonzola grated/shredded over it.

    red "Russian" dressing - which is *not8 Russian, being invented in
    New England by James Coburn in the early 20th century.

    Here's a "real" Russian dressing/sauce. According to Olgs'a notes "I
    call this sauce universal because it is great with everything;
    potatoes, meats, poultry, salads, pasta, ragu...you name it. However,
    this sauce goes the best with fish. Yes, fish. Just try it- it is delicious. You will never go back to ketchup or any other generic
    sauce."

    Title: Universal Sauce DD> Categories: Sauces, Vegetables,
    Cheese DD> Yield: 1 /2 litre

    Interesting.........

    Olga has some very interesting (and authentic) recipes. I got onto her
    website when Don Houston was active in the echo. Probably before your
    time ... bu, maybe not. We're all old timers here with the exception
    of Ben Collver (who's on an extended road trup) and a troll or two.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Gorgonzola & Apple Pork Chops
    Categories: Five, Fruits, Cheese, Pork
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1 tb Oil
    4 lg Boneless, butterflied pork
    - chops;
    3 tb Butter
    2 Sweet apples; peeled, cored,
    - chopped
    1 1/2 c Shredded gorgonzola cheese *

    * any blue-veined cheese may be used but Gorgonzola is
    best for shredding. The others (bleu, Roquefort, Stilton
    etc.) tend to crumble and clump up. -- UDD

    Butterfly each pork chop by slicing horizontally through
    the center with a sharp knife. Leave them attached on one
    side so they can be flipped open to create a butterfly
    shape.

    Heat oil in a large skillet over medium high heat. Add
    pork chops, reduce heat to medium and cook slowly for 5
    to 7 minutes each side, or until they are done to your
    liking. Set aside.

    Melt butter in a medium skillet over medium heat. Add
    apples and saute until tender, then turn off heat and
    add cheese to skillet. Mix together slowly to form a
    creamy thick sauce.

    Place reserved chops on serving plate and stuff each one
    with 1/4 of the apple/cheese mixture. Serve hot.

    Recipe by: Kimberly Watson

    RECIPE FROM: http://allrecipes.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Ruth Haffly on Sat Aug 5 14:29:35 2023
    Hello Ruth,

    [..]

    True, that. But I had already slathered the bread with copious amounts
    of Bossy's Bounty and didn;t need the extra salt.

    True; I make my Butter Blend (3 sticks salted butter, 1 cup olive oil combined well in my KA mixer) with the salted butter. Originally tried
    it with unsalted butter and it just didn't taste right. Switched to
    salted butter and it tasted much better.

    Salted butter (with or without olive oil) is fine for most things,
    but unsalted is a must for baking. Most recipes written for baking
    are with unsalted in mind, and using salted would be a big mistake.
    Changes both the taste and the texture.

    In Europe the norm is using lightly salted butter for most recipes,
    except for baking, never heavily salted. Many chefs prefer to use
    unsalted for everything as they can adjust the amount of salt as
    needed.

    Salt can help as a preservative, but since most folks use butter
    within a short period of time it is not really necessary.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sat Aug 5 14:07:53 2023
    Hi Dave,

    True, that. But I had already slathered the bread with copious amounts
    of Bossy's Bounty and didn;t need the extra salt.

    True; I make my Butter Blend (3 sticks salted butter, 1 cup olive oil combined well in my KA mixer) with the salted butter. Originally tried
    it with unsalted butter and it just didn't taste right. Switched to
    salted butter and it tasted much better.

    I assume that's for making spreadable butter? Salt enhances
    flavour(s).

    It's basically spreadable; if I want to spread it right out of the
    fridge, I'll nuke it for a few seconds. Otherwise, left out, it'll
    soften up on its own in a few minutes.

    8<----- SLICE ----->B

    All I would do with a skewer after using it for cake decorating is
    rinse under very hot running water, dry, and return to its storage
    spot.

    We have some metal skewers but they're bigger, can't get as fine a line
    as I can with a tooth pick for drawing in icing.

    I have a selection of various lengths and thicknesses. The smallest
    are about 6" long and (about) 1/16" thick

    I just have the bigger ones, came with something for a grill, iirc.


    DD> Poor dude, allergic to corn and tomatoes react with his
    arthritis. I

    He also goes easy on the white potatoes for the same reason. Anything
    in the nightshade family is a potential problem for him.

    Oy! Vet is mir! My chilli cook friend Les has an allergy to raw
    tomatoes. When we lunch together I get the bounty. My only known food allergy is to banananas. I can manage it with a 50mg Benadryl - but it turns out I'm
    not a big fan of 'nanners anyway. Bv)=

    AFAIK, I've no food allergies, just some strong dislikes.


    have arthritic hips - but taking a 1500 mg caplet of glucosamine keeps
    its effects down to a dull roar. No more having to sleep sitting up or
    in the recliner.

    He's using it; I tried it and it didn't do a thing for me. Meds help
    keep it down to a tolerable limit.

    I would do meds if I had to. But I much prefer natural or herbal help.

    I would too, if they helped.


    Down side of that is that ranch is one of our least favorite salad dressings.

    2/3 c Ranch salad dressing

    It's just an ingredient in this case. It's pretty bland in any event.

    I know, but if it's something we don't care for, I don't cook with it.

    It a poor cook who can't suit him/her self.

    True, but when I was growing up, I had to cook to suit my dad, not
    always what I wanted to do.


    If I'm in a restaurant setting I'll generally order bleu cheese (using
    a ranch dressing-like base in most restaurants) or, if available

    Too strong for me. Before we were married, Steve said that he liked
    bleu cheese dressing so I tried it. Thank you, but I'll stick with my favorite, 1,000 Islands, or French or Italian if the "islands" aren't available. Russian is harder to find when eating out but it's also an acceptable alternative.

    I find that there are several variations on "Russian" dressing. I much prefer the red variety of the pink/orange versions.

    One of my favourite uses of blue-veined cheeses in salad dressing uses Thousand Islands as a base and has gorgonzola grated/shredded over it.

    red "Russian" dressing - which is *not8 Russian, being invented in
    New England by James Coburn in the early 20th century.

    Here's a "real" Russian dressing/sauce. According to Olgs'a notes "I
    call this sauce universal because it is great with everything;
    potatoes, meats, poultry, salads, pasta, ragu...you name it. However,
    this sauce goes the best with fish. Yes, fish. Just try it- it is delicious. You will never go back to ketchup or any other generic
    sauce."

    Title: Universal Sauce DD> Categories: Sauces, Vegetables,
    Cheese DD> Yield: 1 /2 litre

    Interesting.........

    Olga has some very interesting (and authentic) recipes. I got onto her website when Don Houston was active in the echo. Probably before your
    time ... bu, maybe not. We're all old timers here with the exception
    of Ben Collver (who's on an extended road trup) and a troll or two.

    I joined the echo in January, 1994 so had some overlap time with Don,
    but not a lot. One of the first recipies I printed off was posted by
    Michael Loo; we still use it today--Pseudo-Malinda's Hot Sauce.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Lee Lofaso on Sat Aug 5 14:14:50 2023
    Hi Lee,


    True; I make my Butter Blend (3 sticks salted butter, 1 cup olive oil combined well in my KA mixer) with the salted butter. Originally tried
    it with unsalted butter and it just didn't taste right. Switched to
    salted butter and it tasted much better.

    Salted butter (with or without olive oil) is fine for most things,
    but unsalted is a must for baking. Most recipes written for baking
    are with unsalted in mind, and using salted would be a big mistake. Changes both the taste and the texture.

    i'll use both but if using the salted, will cut down/out on added salt.


    In Europe the norm is using lightly salted butter for most recipes,
    except for baking, never heavily salted. Many chefs prefer to use
    unsalted for everything as they can adjust the amount of salt as
    needed.

    Got some good Danish butter when we shopped the commissaries in
    Frankfurt and Berlin. Between the 2, we were stationed in Germany just
    short of 6 years & were in Berlin when the wall came down.


    Salt can help as a preservative, but since most folks use butter
    within a short period of time it is not really necessary.

    I go easy on the salt as a general rule.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Mon Aug 7 05:16:02 2023
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    True; I make my Butter Blend (3 sticks salted butter, 1 cup olive oil combined well in my KA mixer) with the salted butter. Originally tried
    it with unsalted butter and it just didn't taste right. Switched to
    salted butter and it tasted much better.

    I assume that's for making spreadable butter? Salt enhances
    flavour(s).

    It's basically spreadable; if I want to spread it right out of the
    fridge, I'll nuke it for a few seconds. Otherwise, left out, it'll
    soften up on its own in a few minutes.

    Effectively a butter clone of Blue Bonnet or I Can't Believe .... Bv)=

    8<----- SLICE ----->B

    All I would do with a skewer after using it for cake decorating is
    rinse under very hot running water, dry, and return to its storage
    spot.

    We have some metal skewers but they're bigger, can't get as fine a line
    as I can with a tooth pick for drawing in icing.

    I have a selection of various lengths and thicknesses. The smallest
    are about 6" long and (about) 1/16" thick

    I just have the bigger ones, came with something for a grill, iirc.

    Those would be unwieldy for drawing on cake icig.

    DD> Poor dude, allergic to corn and tomatoes react with his
    arthritis. I

    He also goes easy on the white potatoes for the same reason. Anything
    in the nightshade family is a potential problem for him.

    Oy! Vey is mir! My chilli cook friend Les has an allergy to raw
    tomatoes. When we lunch together I get the bounty. My only known food allergy is to banananas. I can manage it with a 50mg Benadryl - but it turns out I'm
    not a big fan of 'nanners anyway. Bv)=

    AFAIK, I've no food allergies, just some strong dislikes.

    I've plenty of those. Mostly texture based - like okra, hominy, and
    kidney beans.

    have arthritic hips - but taking a 1500 mg caplet of glucosamine keeps
    its effects down to a dull roar. No more having to sleep sitting up or
    in the recliner.

    He's using it; I tried it and it didn't do a thing for me. Meds help
    keep it down to a tolerable limit.

    I would do meds if I had to. But I much prefer natural or herbal help.

    I would too, if they helped.

    Those are the only ones I use. They have proven themselves effective upon
    trial usage. Many common (and effective) meds from pharmaceutical firms
    are, at root, highly refined herbal remedies (including aspirin).

    I refer you to Dr. Christopher's Syllabus, which, even if you don't use
    its formulae on yourself is an eye-opener with obvious links to "modern" medicine. I use some herbal products from one of his disciples (Dr Schultz) which have proven effective over the past 30 or more years.

    https://www.christopherpublications.com/Herb_Syllabus.html

    Down side of that is that ranch is one of our least favorite salad dressings.

    2/3 c Ranch salad dressing

    It's just an ingredient in this case. It's pretty bland in any event.

    I know, but if it's something we don't care for, I don't cook with it.

    It a poor cook who can't suit him/her self.

    True, but when I was growing up, I had to cook to suit my dad, not
    always what I wanted to do.

    I was fortunate in that both my mom and dad were excellent (and
    adventurous) cooks - with Pop being the better cook. Bv)=

    8<----- TRIM ----->B

    Here's a "real" Russian dressing/sauce. According to Olgs'a notes "I
    call this sauce universal because it is great with everything;
    potatoes, meats, poultry, salads, pasta, ragu...you name it. However,
    this sauce goes the best with fish. Yes, fish. Just try it- it is delicious. You will never go back to ketchup or any other generic
    sauce."

    Title: Universal Sauce DD> Categories: Sauces, Vegetables,
    Cheese DD> Yield: 1 /2 litre

    Interesting.........

    Olga has some very interesting (and authentic) recipes. I got onto her website when Don Houston was active in the echo. Probably before your
    time ... bu, maybe not. We're all old timers here with the exception
    of Ben Collver (who's on an extended road trup) and a troll or two.

    I joined the echo in January, 1994 so had some overlap time with Don,
    but not a lot. One of the first recipies I printed off was posted by Michael Loo; we still use it today--Pseudo-Malinda's Hot Sauce.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Borsch
    Categories: Vegetables, Potatoes, Beef, Herbs, Soups
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1 lb (454 g) beef; bones optional
    1 lb (454 g) red beets; (3 beets)
    2 tb (30 mL) butter; divided
    1/2 lb (227 g) shredded cabbage
    4 sm Potatoes
    1 lg Carrot
    1 lg Onion
    3 tb Tomato paste
    2 cl Garlic; grated (opt)
    1 ts (5 mL) vinegar
    Salt & pepper
    Parsley, dill & spring onion
    - to garnish

    PREPARING MEAT BROTH: Put beef into a large saucepan and
    cover with 3 l cold water. Bring to a boil; reduce heat.
    Remove the grease and froth from the broth surface with
    a spoon. Add one onion. Cook at low heat for 1-2 hours.

    SIMMERING RED BEETS: Melt 1 tablespoon butter in a
    saucepan. Cut red beets into thin sticks and add them
    into the cooking pot. Add tomato paste or sliced
    tomatoes. Simmer at low heat for 1 hour. If there is not
    enough liquid, add some broth. Add vinegar.

    Pan-frying vegetables: Melt 1 tablespoon butter in a
    frying pan. Add chopped onion and carrots cut in thin
    sticks. Cover and saute for 15 minutes, stirring
    occasionally.

    Heat broth to boiling. Add chopped cabbage and potatoes
    cut into bars. Cook for 5 minutes. Add saute and cook
    another 10 minutes. Add simmered red beets. Cook another
    5 minutes. Add salt, black pepper.

    NOTE: If you like garlic, you can add about 5 g grated
    garlic, it is supposed to be in borsch. I don't like it
    and never add it here. Borsch is served with sour cream.

    Olga Timokhina

    Source: Olga's collection

    RECIPE FROM: http://www.ruscuisine.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Tue Aug 8 09:48:57 2023
    Hi Dave,

    I assume that's for making spreadable butter? Salt enhances
    flavour(s).

    It's basically spreadable; if I want to spread it right out of the
    fridge, I'll nuke it for a few seconds. Otherwise, left out, it'll
    soften up on its own in a few minutes.

    Effectively a butter clone of Blue Bonnet or I Can't Believe .... Bv)=

    Or the Challenge butter with olive oil. Got some of that up in VT to use
    for cooking for the team, brought home left overs. Kept the tub to use
    for camping so we don't have to schlep our glass bowl along.

    as I can with a tooth pick for drawing in icing.

    I have a selection of various lengths and thicknesses. The smallest
    are about 6" long and (about) 1/16" thick

    I just have the bigger ones, came with something for a grill, iirc.

    Those would be unwieldy for drawing on cake icig.

    Quite, so that's why I use a tooth pick. (G)


    DD> Poor dude, allergic to corn and tomatoes react with his
    arthritis. I

    He also goes easy on the white potatoes for the same reason. Anything
    in the nightshade family is a potential problem for him.

    Oy! Vey is mir! My chilli cook friend Les has an allergy to raw
    tomatoes. When we lunch together I get the bounty. My only known food allergy is to banananas. I can manage it with a 50mg Benadryl - but it turns out I'm
    not a big fan of 'nanners anyway. Bv)=

    AFAIK, I've no food allergies, just some strong dislikes.

    I've plenty of those. Mostly texture based - like okra, hominy, and
    kidney beans.

    Those I don't mind; it's things like peanut butter, coconut, marischino cherries and coffee that turn me off.

    have arthritic hips - but taking a 1500 mg caplet of glucosamine
    keeps DD> its effects down to a dull roar. No more having to sleep
    sitting up or DD> in the recliner.

    He's using it; I tried it and it didn't do a thing for me. Meds help
    keep it down to a tolerable limit.

    I would do meds if I had to. But I much prefer natural or herbal help.

    I would too, if they helped.

    Those are the only ones I use. They have proven themselves effective
    upon trial usage. Many common (and effective) meds from pharmaceutical firms are, at root, highly refined herbal remedies (including
    aspirin).

    I refer you to Dr. Christopher's Syllabus, which, even if you don't
    use its formulae on yourself is an eye-opener with obvious links to "modern" medicine. I use some herbal products from one of his
    disciples (Dr Schultz) which have proven effective over the past 30 or more years.

    https://www.christopherpublications.com/Herb_Syllabus.html

    OK, will probably check it out at some point.


    It's just an ingredient in this case. It's pretty bland in any event.

    I know, but if it's something we don't care for, I don't cook with it.

    It a poor cook who can't suit him/her self.

    True, but when I was growing up, I had to cook to suit my dad, not
    always what I wanted to do.

    I was fortunate in that both my mom and dad were excellent (and adventurous) cooks - with Pop being the better cook. Bv)=

    My dad would do basics if mom wasn't able to do so but otherwise pretty
    much left the kitchen to her.


    Olga has some very interesting (and authentic) recipes. I got onto her website when Don Houston was active in the echo. Probably before your
    time ... bu, maybe not. We're all old timers here with the exception
    of Ben Collver (who's on an extended road trup) and a troll or two.

    I joined the echo in January, 1994 so had some overlap time with Don,
    but not a lot. One of the first recipies I printed off was posted by Michael Loo; we still use it today--Pseudo-Malinda's Hot Sauce.


    Title: Borsch
    Categories: Vegetables, Potatoes, Beef, Herbs, Soups
    Yield: 4 Servings

    I've a jar of it in the pantry to try when the weather cools off a bit.
    Spent part of this morning into afternoon making fig preserves with figs
    from our tree--got 8 half pints and almost another one--()--that shy of
    a 9th so it's our taster. They're cooling now. We've got enough more
    figs to do another batch, may freeze some instead, and the figs keep
    coming. (G)

    Later--just checked and they all sealed. With what I made last year and
    this batch, we've bot lots of fig preserves. I just printed off several recipies from All Recipies to try--will post results as I make them.

    --- Catch you later, Ruth rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO
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    ... There cannot be a crisis today; my schedule is already full.

    --- PPoint 3.01
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