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    From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Fri Jun 16 17:04:21 2023
    Hi Dave,

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    go in the bun I can do these in the microwave and put the cheese on
    top and let it melt there. I do them two at a time.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Hawg-N-Dogs
    Categories: Five, Pork, Breads, Cheese
    Yield: 10 Servings

    10 Hot dogs
    2 sl Pepper Jack cheese
    10 sl Thick-cut bacon
    4 c Oil for deep frying
    10 Split hot dog buns

    I've vague memories of my mom splitting dogs almost in half, stuffing
    the slit with left over mashed potatoes, adding some cheese and browning
    them in the oven. Very vague memories as she didn't do it when we got older--most of the time because there weren't any left over (or enough
    left over) mashed potatoes. She usually fixed just enough for the meal;
    if there was just a dab or so left over, it went to stretch the dog(s)
    supper.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Sun Jun 18 07:15:00 2023
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    They never were my "go-to" either. One thing I used to like was that I could get a baked potato instead of fries for my potato choice. Now
    the "baker" is priced with the large fries - so it's an "upcharge" in
    a combo meal. And it's definitely not finger food.

    The airport branch had a very limited menu so baked potatoes weren't an option for us. They had big signage for their strawberry frosty so we
    each got one of those--big mistake in hindsight. Yes, it was caffeine
    free but bright pink, very little strawberry flavor. Best that could be said about it was that it helped wash down the cheeseburger (no regular burgers available). If I go years without going to Wendy's again, I'll
    be happy.

    Those (airport kiosks) are necessarily "limited menu" kinds of places.
    The regular stand-alone Wendy's will have the baked potato option and
    they are decent plus.

    I'll have to take your word for it as we'd not been inside one in years prior to that. Probably even more years before we do go back in.

    I have their app on my cell phone which converts "in-line" time to "on-
    line" time. They have a "Biggie Bag" deal which gives you a double-stack cheeseburger (two patties), a Jr. bacon cheeseburger (single patty) or
    a "Crispy Chicken" with small fries, 4 chicken nuggets (regular or spicy)
    and a small drink for U$5. Another dollar will get you a Bacon Double
    Stack or a BLT crispy chicken in the bag instead of their entry level
    brothers. I do that a couple tiomes per week when getting off shift
    and heading for home. Saves stopping at the cashier and the order is
    ready before I get to the delivery window.

    8<----- XXXXX ----->B

    I used to get Chick Filly when they were in the mall location. Every
    time I pass by their stand-alone shop (adjacent outlot to the same
    mall) the lines of cars for the double drive-thru are stupid long. The franchisee is coining money - but I'll be blowed if I'll wait on line
    that long for anyone's food.

    Do they have an order ahead app? We've not looked into that option for
    any place to eat so couldn't tell you if they do or not. Something to
    look into if you really want CFA. But yes, lines there are always super long at lunch time--and some stores are designed so that parking for
    walk in customers in almost impossible at that time.

    Several things at play here ... I'm not a fan of Chick Filly, even if
    I could order ahead on-line or in an app I'd still have to wait for
    the line to creep forward. And the CFA store is about as far from me as
    it can be and still be in the same city. Within a few blocks I have a McDonald's, a Herdee's, and a Freddies Frozen Custard & Burgers in a
    little cluster. A little further out I have Popeyes, Wendy's Taco Bell,
    Burger Whop, Arbee's, Culver's, and several wing-ding places, as well
    as a Subway, Jimmy John's, Chipotle, and a Panda Express for Chinese
    Fats Food.

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    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: COPYCAT Panda Express Honey Walnut Shrimp
    Categories: Oriental, Seafood, Nuts, Dairy
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1 c Water
    2/3 c White sugar
    1/2 c Walnut halves
    4 Egg whites
    2/3 c Cornstarch
    1/4 c Mayonnaise
    1 lb U18-20 shrimp; peeled
    - and deveined
    2 tb Honey
    1 tb Sweetened condensed milk
    1 c Oil for frying
    Sliced scallions for topping
    - opt

    Add the water, sugar and walnuts to a small saucepan
    and bring to a boil.

    Boil for two minutes and remove the walnuts and dry on
    a dish to dry.

    Whisk the egg whites until they are foamy then add
    cornstarch and continue whisking until combined.

    Add the shrimp to the batter and one at a time using
    a fork or your favourite pig tail flipper pick up 1
    shrimp at a time allowing it to drip off so that the
    shrimp has a thin coating and maintains it's shape.

    Heat your oil in a medium sized pot on medium high
    (350-|F/175-|C) and fry until light golden brown, 4-5
    minutes.

    To make the sauce, add the honey, mayonnaise to the
    sweetened condensed milk and whisk to combine.

    Add the fried shrimp to the sauce and coat with a
    large spoon.

    Place into your serving plate and top with the candied
    walnuts.

    Serve immediately with steamed rice.

    Optionally you can top with sliced scallions.

    Servings: 4 servings

    RECIPE FROM: https://dinnerthendessert.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Sun Jun 18 07:16:00 2023
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

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    go in the bun I can do these in the microwave and put the cheese on
    top and let it melt there. I do them two at a time.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Hawg-N-Dogs
    Categories: Five, Pork, Breads, Cheese
    Yield: 10 Servings

    10 Hot dogs
    2 sl Pepper Jack cheese
    10 sl Thick-cut bacon
    4 c Oil for deep frying
    10 Split hot dog buns

    I've vague memories of my mom splitting dogs almost in half, stuffing
    the slit with left over mashed potatoes, adding some cheese and
    browning them in the oven. Very vague memories as she didn't do it when
    we got older--most of the time because there weren't any left over (or enough left over) mashed potatoes. She usually fixed just enough for
    the meal; if there was just a dab or so left over, it went to stretch
    the dog(s) supper.

    I have three pooches here to pre-wash the supper dishes. and they're not
    picky, in the slightest.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Dog Pooch Munchies
    Categories: Breads, Pork, Cheese, Eggs
    Yield: 6 Servings

    3 c Whole wheat flour
    1 ts Garlic salt
    1/2 c Soft bacon fat
    1 c Shredded cheese
    1 lg Egg; beaten slightly
    1 c Milk

    Set oven @ 400-|F/205-|C.

    Place flour and garlic salt in a large bowl. Stir in bacon
    fat. Add cheese and egg. Gradually add enough milk to form a
    dough. Knead dough and roll out to about 1" thick.

    Use dog bone cookie cutter to cut out dough. Place on
    greased cookie sheet. Bake about 12 minutes, until they
    start to brown.

    Cool and serve.

    These are alleged to be "doggie treats". They will make
    pretty decent "people treats" as well. -- UDD

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Dave Drum on Sun Jun 18 14:38:14 2023
    Dave Drum wrote to Ruth Haffly <=-

    instead of their entry level brothers. I do that a couple tiomes per
    week when getting off shift and heading for home. Saves stopping at the cashier and the order is ready before I get to the delivery window.

    Taco Bell has an excellent deal on their app: it's one of their "boxed"
    meals with two entrees, a side, and a large soda (20 cents more) for $6.10 with tax (9.5% here). Order it on the app, go to their drive-thru, and you're on your way home. Occasionally I like to do that for an eat-in lunch so I will pull up in their parking lot, order for pickup, and go in with the order already paid for.

    That Taco Bell is the last one with the old-style dining room. It's going
    to be remodeled this year, sadly, to look like a Starbucks knock-off. I
    wonder if the guy who designed those dark, sterile-looking interiors is designing all the fast food chain places these days as they pretty much all look alike these days.

    I used to get Chick Filly when they were in the mall location. Every
    time I pass by their stand-alone shop (adjacent outlot to the same
    mall) the lines of cars for the double drive-thru are stupid long. The franchisee is coining money - but I'll be blowed if I'll wait on line
    that long for anyone's food.

    I always go in the late afternoon to CFA and eat in. Never the drive-thru.

    Within a few blocks I have a
    McDonald's, a Herdee's, and a Freddies Frozen Custard & Burgers in a little cluster. A little further out I have Popeyes, Wendy's Taco Bell, Burger Whop, Arbee's, Culver's, and several wing-ding places, as well
    as a Subway, Jimmy John's, Chipotle, and a Panda Express for Chinese
    Fats Food.

    Everything is at least a two mile drive for me. Love this side of town I'm
    on but the only three things within a reasonable walking distance (or short scooter ride) are two gas stations, a Dollar General, and a Walgreen's. There's two more gas stations near Walgreens but that is an unsafe area of
    town (sadly, a 20-year-old station clerk was murdered at one of the gas stations here; murders are still fairly rare here) so I'd just rather go to
    the DG even though the road crossings make the hair on the back of my neck stand up.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Sean's Accidental Pasta Dinner
    Categories: Pasta, Main dish, Sean dennis
    Yield: 6 Quarts

    1 Box (32 oz) chicken broth
    1 Can (24 oz) pasta sauce
    2 c Water
    1 Box (1 lb) elbow macaroni
    1 lb Sweet (mild) bulk Italian
    --sausage
    4 Scallions, finely chopped
    1 Can (16.4 oz) mushrooms
    --"bits and pieces"

    MMMMM-------------------------SEASONINGS------------------------------
    1/4 t Salt
    Italian seasoning*
    Shake Parmaesan cheese

    MMMMM--------------------------TOPPING-------------------------------
    Shredded Cheddar cheese

    Pour broth, pasta sauce, and water into 6 quart Dutch oven. Put lid
    on pot and bring to a rolling boil. Add seasoning to taste. Stir
    well to combine.

    While broth and pasta sauce come to a boil, brown the Italian sausage
    in a skillet. Drain if necessary. Remove from heat, cover pan, and
    set aside. Chop scallions, removing root tip and any dried stem
    parts. Cut on bias into thin strips. Set aside.

    When sauce mixture is at a rolling boil, add macaroni. Boil for
    around 15-20 minutes uncovered. Stir occasionally. Taste test
    macaroni occasionally to make sure it is not overcooked (mushy).

    When macaroni is done, immediately remove Dutch oven from heat to a
    trivet. Add copious amounts of Parmaesan cheese, Italian sausage,
    scallions, and well-drained mushrooms; stir to mix well. Add as much
    shredded Cheddar cheese as you like. Put lid on Dutch oven and let
    sit for 20 minutes or longer.

    * = The "Italian seasoning" I like to use is Kingsford Garlic & Herbs
    Rustic Tuscan Style All-Purpose Seasoning, available at Walmart in
    the US.

    NOTES:

    ~ A 6 quart stockpot can be used instead of a Dutch oven.

    ~ Make sure to keep an eye on the macaroni while it is cooking and to
    stir to prevent clumping.

    ~ The 20 minutes rest time is to allow the pasta to completely absorb
    the sauce and for the Cheddar cheese to melt deliciously all over the
    top.

    ~ The pasta will not be fully cooked after 15 minutes but the rest
    time will allow the pasta to absorb the sauce and still have a bit of
    a toothsome feel.

    ~ Feel free to experiment with seasonings and toppings. That's one
    of the best parts of the recipe!

    ~ This makes a LOT of food. Cut all ingredient amounts in half to
    make a good dinner for two or one hungry individual.

    Makes six quarts. This enough to feed quite a lot of people in one
    sitting or one hungry Sean for about a week of leftovers.

    Recipe created quite by accident in the kitchen of Sean Dennis
    (1:18/200@Fidonet). MM'd by Sean on 29 January 2022.

    MMMMM

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Sean Dennis on Mon Jun 19 05:54:00 2023
    Sean Dennis wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    instead of their entry level brothers. I do that a couple tiomes per
    week when getting off shift and heading for home. Saves stopping at the cashier and the order is ready before I get to the delivery window.

    Taco Bell has an excellent deal on their app: it's one of their "boxed" meals with two entrees, a side, and a large soda (20 cents more) for
    $6.10 with tax (9.5% here). Order it on the app, go to their
    drive-thru, and you're on your way home. Occasionally I like to do
    that for an eat-in lunch so I will pull up in their parking lot, order
    for pickup, and go in with the order already paid for.

    I don't have the Taco Bell ap on my phone. Just Domino's, Wendy's,
    Hardee's, Popeyes, Jimmy John's , and Arby's.

    That Taco Bell is the last one with the old-style dining room. It's
    going to be remodeled this year, sadly, to look like a Starbucks knock-off. I wonder if the guy who designed those dark,
    sterile-looking interiors is designing all the fast food chain places these days as they pretty much all look alike these days.

    My local Taco Sloppo's all have a decent dining area with both counter
    and table seating. Their only "updated" touch is an order kiosk just
    inside the entrance. But I always belly-up to the cashier station and
    give my order to the minion on the other side.

    I used to get Chick Filly when they were in the mall location. Every
    time I pass by their stand-alone shop (adjacent outlot to the same
    mall) the lines of cars for the double drive-thru are stupid long. The franchisee is coining money - but I'll be blowed if I'll wait on line
    that long for anyone's food.

    I always go in the late afternoon to CFA and eat in. Never the drive-thru.

    As I told Married Ruth my Chick Filly is as far away from my house as
    it can be and still be in the same town. And I'd pass by two Popeyes en
    route. I really like Popeyes chicken. Bv)=

    Within a few blocks I have a
    McDonald's, a Hardee's, and a Freddies Frozen Custard & Burgers in a little cluster. A little further out I have Popeyes, Wendy's Taco Bell, Burger Whop, Arbee's, Culver's, and several wing-ding places, as well
    as a Subway, Jimmy John's, Chipotle, and a Panda Express for Chinese
    Fats Food.

    Everything is at least a two mile drive for me. Love this side of town I'm on but the only three things within a reasonable walking distance
    (or short scooter ride) are two gas stations, a Dollar General, and a Walgreen's. There's two more gas stations near Walgreens but that is an unsafe area of town (sadly, a 20-year-old station clerk was murdered at one of the gas stations here; murders are still fairly rare here) so
    I'd just rather go to the DG even though the road crossings make the
    hair on the back of my neck stand up.

    There is too much gun violence in our country. This ain't the forum to
    discuss it or possible solutions (a *very* thorny issue) - but we gots
    to do something else we'll live in "Dodge City" as a norm.

    Title: Sean's Accidental Pasta Dinner
    Categories: Pasta, Main dish, Sean dennis
    Yield: 6 Quarts

    Reading the directions it reads like it's less of an accident than it
    is, as many of my personal favourites are, a "head arrangement" that
    was made up as you went along.

    When sauce mixture is at a rolling boil, add macaroni. Boil for
    around 15-20 minutes uncovered. Stir occasionally. Taste test
    macaroni occasionally to make sure it is not overcooked (mushy).

    That's called "al dente"

    Here's my first "made up on the fly" recipe when I was 13 years old.
    The Meal Mastering came very much later. Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Unique Apple Pie (An Uncle Dirty Dave Special)
    Categories: Pies, Fruits, Pastry, Dessert, Pork
    Yield: 6 Servings

    MMMMM---------------------------PASTRY--------------------------------
    1 1/2 c A-P flour
    1/3 c Bacon drippings
    2 tb (to 3 tb) cold water
    1 Egg yolk

    MMMMM--------------------------FILLING-------------------------------
    3 c Apples; sliced
    3/4 c White sugar
    3/4 c Light brown sugar
    1 ts Cinnamon
    1/4 ts Nutmeg
    1/4 ts Allspice

    MMMMM--------------------------TOPPING-------------------------------
    1 Egg white
    Sugar & cinnamon

    First, swipe some apples from that apple tree down the
    alley. A medium sized Kroger bag should be enough.
    Assuming you don't get caught, scoot for home and wash
    the fruits of your labour. Peel, core and slice (medium)
    three cups of fruit. Put in a bowl and cover with water
    to prevent browning.

    Make the pastry.

    PASTRY: In medium-size bowl, place 1 1/2 cups unsifted
    all-purpose flour. With pastry blender or 2 knives, cut
    in 1/3 cup bacon drippings, until the mixture resembles
    coarse crumbs. Do not add salt. The dripping provide
    plenty of salt.

    Add 2 to 3 tablespoons of cold water and an egg yolk to
    flour mixture and mix lightly with fork until moistened;
    gather into a ball. Wrap pastry and refrigerate 30
    minutes.

    Roll out pastry for a 9" or 10" pie pan. Butter the pie
    pan and place bottom layer of pastry in it.

    FILLING: Mix 3/4 cup refined white sugar, 3/4 cup light
    brown sugar, 1 tsp cinnamon, 1/4 tsp nutmeg and 1/4 tsp
    allspice in a medium sized bowl.

    Drain apple slices and mix with sugar/spice mix. If all
    the sugar/spice mix is not used up in coating apple
    slices spread it over the filling after transferring
    fruit to pie pan.

    MAKE THE PIE: Moisten rim of pastry with a little water
    and place top crust on pie, pinching top and bottom
    together to seal. Cut steam vents into top crust with a
    sharp knife. If desired, use a pastry brush to brush egg
    white on top crust for a glaze. Sprinkle sugar across
    the crust lightly and dust with cinnamon.

    Bake pie @ 350°F-375°F/175°C-190°C for 50 to 55 minutes
    or until crust is lightly browned and filling bubbles.

    Cool 10 minutes on wire rack before cutting.

    VARIATIONS... I often fry up 4 slices of thick cut slab
    bacon to provide the bacon drippings. Then crumble the
    bacon slices and mix with the filling.

    Serve with a slice of sharp cheddar cheese between the
    top crust and the filling.

    This is an absolutely scrumptious pie, if I do say so.

    First made in August 1955, Springfield, IL

    From: Dave Drum | Date: December 21, 2002

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sun Jun 18 20:14:21 2023
    Hi Dave,

    Those (airport kiosks) are necessarily "limited menu" kinds of places.
    The regular stand-alone Wendy's will have the baked potato option and
    they are decent plus.

    I'll have to take your word for it as we'd not been inside one in years prior to that. Probably even more years before we do go back in.

    I have their app on my cell phone which converts "in-line" time to
    "on- line" time. They have a "Biggie Bag" deal which gives you a double-stack cheeseburger (two patties), a Jr. bacon cheeseburger
    (single patty) or
    a "Crispy Chicken" with small fries, 4 chicken nuggets (regular or
    spicy) and a small drink for U$5. Another dollar will get you a Bacon Double
    Stack or a BLT crispy chicken in the bag instead of their entry level brothers. I do that a couple tiomes per week when getting off shift
    and heading for home. Saves stopping at the cashier and the order is
    ready before I get to the delivery window.

    That would be handy if you used it regularly. We're irregular enough at
    fast food places that it probably wouldn't do us any good. A CFA app,
    maybe. Went by our regular CFA after getting back in town from Alaska
    and found them closed for renovation. Since they usually have double
    lane cars out to the street & beyond, I'm thinking the only other CFA in
    town has picked up their business so I'm not even going to suggest going
    there for a while. They also have a double lane of cars going (almost)
    to the street--more parking lot space for them to wind around before
    hitting the street.


    Several things at play here ... I'm not a fan of Chick Filly, even if
    I could order ahead on-line or in an app I'd still have to wait for
    the line to creep forward. And the CFA store is about as far from me
    as it can be and still be in the same city. Within a few blocks I have
    a
    McDonald's, a Herdee's, and a Freddies Frozen Custard & Burgers in a little cluster. A little further out I have Popeyes, Wendy's Taco
    Bell, Burger Whop, Arbee's, Culver's, and several wing-ding places, as well
    as a Subway, Jimmy John's, Chipotle, and a Panda Express for Chinese
    Fats Food.


    Pays your money, takes your choice. We have quite a few (but not all) of
    those, but scattered thru the town. Hardees closed up shop a couple of
    years ago and nobody has taken over their building.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sun Jun 18 20:22:51 2023
    Hi Dave,


    Title: Hawg-N-Dogs
    Categories: Five, Pork, Breads, Cheese
    Yield: 10 Servings

    10 Hot dogs
    2 sl Pepper Jack cheese
    10 sl Thick-cut bacon
    4 c Oil for deep frying
    10 Split hot dog buns

    I've vague memories of my mom splitting dogs almost in half, stuffing
    the slit with left over mashed potatoes, adding some cheese and
    browning them in the oven. Very vague memories as she didn't do it when
    we got older--most of the time because there weren't any left over (or enough left over) mashed potatoes. She usually fixed just enough for
    the meal; if there was just a dab or so left over, it went to stretch
    the dog(s) supper.

    I have three pooches here to pre-wash the supper dishes. and they're
    not picky, in the slightest.

    Ours weren't either. Had just one dog until I was about 12, then my
    folks added others, but never more than 2 at a time. We always had one
    or 2 cats but they didn't usually get left overs--their treat was the
    fish oil whenever my mom did anything with canned tuna. She would drain
    the can into the cat's dry kibble.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Dave Drum on Mon Jun 19 13:40:06 2023
    Dave Drum wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

    I don't have the Taco Bell ap on my phone. Just Domino's, Wendy's, Hardee's, Popeyes, Jimmy John's , and Arby's.

    I have just Domino's, Taco Bell, Sonic, McDonald's, and Little Caesar's
    (their app saves a lot of time; just walk in and retrieve it from an
    automated warmer cabinet).

    My local Taco Sloppo's all have a decent dining area with both counter
    and table seating. Their only "updated" touch is an order kiosk just inside the entrance. But I always belly-up to the cashier station and
    give my order to the minion on the other side.

    I use the kiosk as usually my favorite TB is chronically understaffed as
    all of the college kids don't want to work anymore. Besides, I am picky
    with my food and this way I can make sure they get everything just the way I like it. <G>

    As I told Married Ruth my Chick Filly is as far away from my house as
    it can be and still be in the same town. And I'd pass by two Popeyes en route. I really like Popeyes chicken. Bv)=

    When I get teef, I will go to my local Popeyes since it is an easy drive
    using backroads...about 3.5 miles from here.

    There is too much gun violence in our country. This ain't the forum to discuss it or possible solutions (a *very* thorny issue) - but we gots
    to do something else we'll live in "Dodge City" as a norm.

    Here it's drugs more than guns...but combine the two and terrible things happen.

    Reading the directions it reads like it's less of an accident than it
    is, as many of my personal favourites are, a "head arrangement" that
    was made up as you went along.

    Yeah, it started as something else and I made a mistake so I kept going
    until I made something tasty.

    That's called "al dente"

    I'll change the recipe.

    Here's my first "made up on the fly" recipe when I was 13 years old.
    The Meal Mastering came very much later. Bv)=

    That's kinda what I did though my recipes were very simple with my own
    twist. I still do that now though my time as a short-order cook and a brger flipper gave me experience and confidence to make up my own creations.

    Nothing fancy but my dinner last night was spaghetti with crumbled pork sausage, store-brand pasta sauce, and my beloved rosemary-garlic seasoning (which I discovered yesterday works on scrambled eggs too).

    I am thankful my mother took the time to teach me how to cook and bake as
    well as how to read recipes correctly. She once told me that "no son of
    mine is not going to go out into the world without knowing how to take care
    of himself!" She also taught me personal finance skills (like checkbook balancing and double-entry bookkeeping, both of which I still do), how to
    mend my own clothing, and many other skills that many young people today are sadly severely lacking in.

    Side note: when I was at BK, I taught many a teen how to count back change. Evidently that is no longer taught at any grade level.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Golden Chicken Bake
    Categories: Poultry
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1 cn (8.75-oz) whole kernel corn;
    -drained
    1/4 c Shredded zucchini
    1/2 c Kraft real mayonnaise
    2 Chicken breasts; split
    1 c Buttery cracker crumbs
    1/2 lb Velveeta pasteurized process
    -cheese spread; cubed
    1/3 c Kraft real mayonnaise
    3 tb Milk
    1/4 c Shredded zucchini

    Combine vegetables and 1/4 cup mayonnaise; mix lightly. Loosen skin
    of each breast to form pocket; fill with vegetable mixture, Close
    opening with wooden picks. Brush chicken with remaining mayonnaise;
    coat with crumbs. Place in 13x9-inch baking dish, Bake at 350
    degrees, 55 minutes or until tender.

    Combine Velveeta cheese spread, mayonnaise and milk in saucepan;
    stir over low heat until cheese spread is melted. Stir in zucchini;
    serve over chicken. 4 servings.

    From a collection of my mother's (Judy Hosey) recipe box which
    contained lots of her favorite recipes, clippings, etc. Downloaded
    from Glen's MM Recipe Archive, http://www.erols.com/hosey.

    MMMMM

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Tue Jun 20 05:27:00 2023
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    enough left over) mashed potatoes. She usually fixed just enough for
    the meal; if there was just a dab or so left over, it went to stretch
    the dog(s) supper.

    I have three pooches here to pre-wash the supper dishes. and they're
    not picky, in the slightest.

    Ours weren't either. Had just one dog until I was about 12, then my
    folks added others, but never more than 2 at a time. We always had one
    or 2 cats but they didn't usually get left overs--their treat was the
    fish oil whenever my mom did anything with canned tuna. She would drain the can into the cat's dry kibble.

    Cats can be odd sometimes. I had one I named Spot (because she followed
    me around like a dog) who I shared some hamburger-based red gravy from
    the spaghetti. She licked up all of the sauce and left the meat. Pretty
    odd behaviour for a cat.

    I never have oil from tuna these days as I *always* get the "Packed in
    Water" stuff. Haven't had heartburn since I switched. Bv)=

    This is from a cookbook I published (wish I had a copy) when I wore a
    younger man's clothes called "Advice For The Newly Single". It was for
    freshly graduated, living away from Mom & Dad for the first time. Or
    newly divorced man on their own with no housekeeping chops nor cooking
    skills.

    It was first printed in my newspaper column, "The Dim View"

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Tuna On Shingle - The Dim View
    Categories: Seafood, Soups, Dairy, Breads
    Yield: 3 Servings

    10 oz (2 cans) tuna; drained *
    1/3 c Diced bell pepper
    1/4 ts Black pepper
    1/4 ts Granulated garlic
    10 3/4 oz Can Cream of Celery soup
    3 tb Milk; as needed
    Toasted bread or muffins

    This is super easy and makes a great breakfast, light
    lunch or supper. A country-style toasted bread makes
    this dish.

    Saute bell peppers until wilted.

    Add undiluted soup, season with pepper and garlic.

    Fold tuna into soup mixture being careful not to break
    too much. Add 2 or 3 tbs milk or more to achieve creamy
    consistency.

    Heat to simmer.

    Serve over toast of your choice.

    * Note: This can also be done with leftover salmon

    From: The Dim View Column; 10 October 1969

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Sean Dennis on Tue Jun 20 06:22:00 2023
    Sean Dennis wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I don't have the Taco Bell ap on my phone. Just Domino's, Wendy's, Hardee's, Popeyes, Jimmy John's , and Arby's.

    I have just Domino's, Taco Bell, Sonic, McDonald's, and Little Caesar's (their app saves a lot of time; just walk in and retrieve it from an automated warmer cabinet).

    I used to have McD's but it got to be such a PITA that I finally 86ed
    it to the bit bucket and moved on to easier-to-use apps.

    My local Taco Sloppo's all have a decent dining area with both counter
    and table seating. Their only "updated" touch is an order kiosk just inside the entrance. But I always belly-up to the cashier station and
    give my order to the minion on the other side.

    I use the kiosk as usually my favorite TB is chronically understaffed
    as all of the college kids don't want to work anymore. Besides, I am picky with my food and this way I can make sure they get everything
    just the way I like it. <G>

    As I *always* get the same thing since they ditched the enchiritos it's
    kind of a no-brainer even for some of the burn-outs behind the counter.
    I just say #1 - crispy and pay up. Bv)=

    As I told Married Ruth my Chick Filly is as far away from my house as
    it can be and still be in the same town. And I'd pass by two Popeyes en route. I really like Popeyes chicken. Bv)=

    When I get teef, I will go to my local Popeyes since it is an easy
    drive using backroads...about 3.5 miles from here.

    I got a blackened chicken sandwich w/mashed potatoes on my way home from AutoZone yesterday. Most excellent (and filling) late lunch.

    There is too much gun violence in our country. This ain't the forum to discuss it or possible solutions (a *very* thorny issue) - but we gots
    to do something else we'll live in "Dodge City" as a norm.

    Here it's drugs more than guns...but combine the two and terrible
    things happen.

    As long as they are using the guns on each other it's not that big a
    deal. But when innocent bystanders get hurt/killed or one of them does
    a rampage and shoots everything in sght ......

    Reading the directions it reads like it's less of an accident than it
    is, as many of my personal favourites are, a "head arrangement" that
    was made up as you went along.

    Yeah, it started as something else and I made a mistake so I kept going until I made something tasty.

    That's how a lot of "new" dishes get invented.

    That's called "al dente"

    I'll change the recipe.

    Here's my first "made up on the fly" recipe when I was 13 years old.
    The Meal Mastering came very much later. Bv)=

    That's kinda what I did though my recipes were very simple with my own twist. I still do that now though my time as a short-order cook and a brger flipper gave me experience and confidence to make up my own creations.

    I only had one gig as a restaurant cook. My friend (and current housr
    mate, Dennis) were given a working restaurant to run as a "front" for
    the commercial ladies on the second floor. Since Dennis is a disaster
    in any kitchen I was given charge of the kitchen ... sink or swim. I
    had to "tread water" for a week or so but I got pretty good at it,

    One day I had made sandwiches from a boiled cow's tongue and served
    with a bowl of beef barley soup. When I offered it to on e of the ladies
    who lived nearby (not a sex worker) she exclaimed "I'm not eating any
    thing that came from an animal's mouth. Can I have an egg sandwich with
    the soup?"

    I managed to get all the way back to the kitchen before I totally lost
    it.

    Nothing fancy but my dinner last night was spaghetti with crumbled pork sausage, store-brand pasta sauce, and my beloved rosemary-garlic
    seasoning (which I discovered yesterday works on scrambled eggs too).

    Didja use breakfast sausage or Italian?

    I am thankful my mother took the time to teach me how to cook and bake
    as well as how to read recipes correctly. She once told me that "no
    son of mine is not going to go out into the world without knowing how
    to take care of himself!" She also taught me personal finance skills
    (like checkbook balancing and double-entry bookkeeping, both of which I still do), how to mend my own clothing, and many other skills that many young people today are sadly severely lacking in.

    Side note: when I was at BK, I taught many a teen how to count back change. Evidently that is no longer taught at any grade level.

    I taught a young toots at a McDonald's how to do that. Her cash register
    didn't tell her how muchchange I was to get and she was lost. So I taught
    her how to use the sale as the starting point and progress from pennies
    to dollars to get back to the tender. She was amazed. Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Tongue For Sandwiches
    Categories: Beef, Offal, Herbs
    Yield: 12 Servings

    3 lb (to 4 lb) calf/beef tongue
    2 md Yellow onions; peeled,
    - quartered
    2 cl Garlic; peeled, bruised
    1 California bay leaf
    12 Black peppercorns; cracked
    1 ts Dried thyme
    1 ts Dried basil
    Water to cover
    2 tb Table salt

    Choose a tongue of about 3-4 lbs; beef tongues can weigh
    up to 9 lbs but the larger ones can be difficult to cook.
    Tongues are readily available in most Latino markets. If
    one is not available, you should be able to order one from
    your butcher. Soak the tongue in cold water to remove any
    traces of blood, then drain and discard the water.

    Place the tongue in an 8 quart pot and cover with salted
    water. Peel and cut the onions into quarters and add to
    the pot. Bring the water to a boil, then reduce the heat
    to a slow simmer. Add the garlic and herbs Cover the pot
    and cook the tongue for 3 hours (if your tongue is not 3
    pounds, plan on cooking 50 to 60 minutes per pound.) When
    done, the tongue will be tender, easily pierced with a
    knife.

    To peel the skin from the tongue, should you wish to do
    that to serve squeamish people: Remove the tongue from the
    pot and allow it to cool just enough to handle. Slide a
    knife under the skin to loosen it; the skin should peel
    off easily while the tongue is warm, although it is more
    difficult if the tongue has fully cooled.

    Otherwise, remove the tongue from the water and let it
    drain and cool until it is cool enough to handle. The
    tongue is now ready to slice for sandwiches. I like to
    make 1/8" to 1/4" slices. It can be served warm or cold.

    Makes enough for 12 (or more) hearty sandwiches.

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Tue Jun 20 06:47:00 2023
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Stack or a BLT crispy chicken in the bag instead of their entry level brothers. I do that a couple tiomes per week when getting off shift
    and heading for home. Saves stopping at the cashier and the order is
    ready before I get to the delivery window.

    That would be handy if you used it regularly. We're irregular enough at fast food places that it probably wouldn't do us any good. A CFA app, maybe. Went by our regular CFA after getting back in town from Alaska
    and found them closed for renovation. Since they usually have double
    lane cars out to the street & beyond, I'm thinking the only other CFA
    in town has picked up their business so I'm not even going to suggest going there for a while. They also have a double lane of cars going (almost) to the street--more parking lot space for them to wind around before hitting the street.

    In my NSHO fast food should also be convenient. Chick Filly seems to be in
    no way convenient.

    Several things at play here ... I'm not a fan of Chick Filly, even if
    I could order ahead on-line or in an app I'd still have to wait for
    the line to creep forward. And the CFA store is about as far from me
    as it can be and still be in the same city. Within a few blocks I have McDonald's, a Herdee's, and a Freddies Frozen Custard & Burgers in a little cluster. A little further out I have Popeyes, Wendy's, Taco
    Bell, Burger Whop, Arbee's, Culver's, and several wing-ding places,
    as well as a Subway, Jimmy John's, Chipotle, and a Panda Express for Chinese Fats Food.

    Popeyes has recently added a "blackened" chicken sandwich to their menu.
    I snagged one (spicy) on my way home from work yesterday. With the side
    of mash w/Cajun gravy I didn't have anything for supper except a small
    tub (5 1/2 oz) of Chobani active culture yoghurt w/cherries.

    Pays your money, takes your choice. We have quite a few (but not all)
    of those, but scattered thru the town. Hardees closed up shop a couple
    of years ago and nobody has taken over their building.

    I've got five Hardee's scattered around town. The one closest to being
    in the center of town is open 24/7. And one is known as the "Rock 'n'
    Roll" Hardee's. It has a motorcycle on display in the store, a band
    shell in a corner of the (extra-large) parking lot for live music shows
    and to act as a stage for Cruise-Ins and car shows. The Route 66 Mother
    Road Festival starts one of their "cruise" events from that Hardee's and
    it's a stop on Hot Rod Magazine's tours. It's also physically the largest
    of the local fats food joints.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Hardee's Biscuits
    Categories: Five, Breads
    Yield: 10 Servings

    2 c Self-rising flour
    1 tb Sugar
    1 c Milk
    1/3 c Mayo

    Combine flour, sugar, milk and mayo into a smooth dough.
    Divide batter equally between 10 paper-lined muffin
    wells or cupcake wells.

    Bake @ 350-|F/175-|C about 25 to 30 minutes - until golden
    brown and doubled in size.

    Source: Copy Cat Recipes

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Dave Drum on Tue Jun 20 18:36:18 2023
    Hello, Dave!

    Replying to a message of Dave Drum to Sean Dennis:

    I used to have McD's but it got to be such a PITA that I finally 86ed
    it to the bit bucket and moved on to easier-to-use apps.

    It's better than it used to be but it's still poorly designed.

    I got a blackened chicken sandwich w/mashed potatoes on my way home
    from AutoZone yesterday. Most excellent (and filling) late lunch.

    That does sound both delicious and filling.

    As long as they are using the guns on each other it's not that big a deal. But when innocent bystanders get hurt/killed or one of them
    does a rampage and shoots everything in sght ......

    Agreed.

    One day I had made sandwiches from a boiled cow's tongue and served
    with a bowl of beef barley soup. When I offered it to on e of the
    ladies who lived nearby (not a sex worker) she exclaimed "I'm not
    eating any thing that came from an animal's mouth. Can I have an egg sandwich with the soup?"

    I managed to get all the way back to the kitchen before I totally lost
    it.

    It's like the newspaper editorial clipping I saw decades ago on "The Tonight Show with Jay Leno". Some dimwit wrote "Hunting is terrible an inhumane. Buy your food at the grocery store where no animals are harmed."

    Didja use breakfast sausage or Italian?

    Breakfast since it was all I had on hand but I did but some sweet Italian sausage today from ALDI. Spent about $50 but bought about two weeks' worth of groceries.

    I taught a young toots at a McDonald's how to do that. Her cash
    register didn't tell her how muchchange I was to get and she was
    lost. So I taught her how to use the sale as the starting point and progress from pennies to dollars to get back to the tender. She was amazed. Bv)=

    Yes, they usually are that such a skill exists. I need to start carrying cash more often. I can lose track of things easily using my debit card for lots of small purchases. When I was younger, I dealt primarily in cash with checks for large purchases (usually over $100).

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Sauce Gribiche For Fish, Calf's Head, Tongue, Etc.
    Categories: French, Sauces, Eggs
    Yield: 4 servings

    3 Hardboiled eggs
    1 tb Mustard
    250 ml Oil
    100 ml Vinegar
    30 g Cornichons
    Few chopped herbs
    Salt and pepper

    Hard boil three eggs; run under cold water; shell them; separate the
    yolks from the whites; mash the egg yolk into a paste; add 1 tbsp.
    mustard; slowly drizzle in 250 ml (1 cup) oil as you would in making
    mayonnaise; finish with 10 ml (2 tsp.) vinegar; finely chop the egg
    whites and 30 g of cornichons; add to the sauce; add a few finely
    chopped fresh herbs and season with salt and pepper.

    From: The Worldwide Gourmet

    MMMMM

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Dave Drum on Wed Jun 21 00:58:02 2023
    On 06-20-23 06:22, Dave Drum <=-
    spoke to Sean Dennis about Re: Travelling PT 1 <=-

    I only had one gig as a restaurant cook. My friend (and current housr mate, Dennis) were given a working restaurant to run as a "front" for
    the commercial ladies on the second floor. Since Dennis is a disaster
    in any kitchen I was given charge of the kitchen ... sink or swim. I
    had to "tread water" for a week or so but I got pretty good at it,

    I have to question the good judgement of those who decide to open a
    restaurant -- too much stress and too high a failure rate.

    One day I had made sandwiches from a boiled cow's tongue and served
    with a bowl of beef barley soup. When I offered it to on e of the
    ladies who lived nearby (not a sex worker) she exclaimed "I'm not
    eating any thing that came from an animal's mouth. Can I have an egg sandwich with the soup?"

    I managed to get all the way back to the kitchen before I totally lost
    it.

    That is a line that never gets old :-}}

    Here is one of my most favorite desserts.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: Rice Pudding
    Categories: D/g, Dessert, Boat
    Yield: 5 servings

    2 lg Eggs
    1/2 c Sugar
    2 c Milk
    1/2 ts Vanilla
    1/2 c Raisins
    2 c Rice, leftover, cooked;
    (up to 2 1/2 cup)
    ds Nutmeg - to taste
    ds Cinnamon - to taste

    PREHEAT OVEN TO 350 Degrees.

    In bowl beat eggs and sugar slightly just to mix.

    On stove or in mircrowave - scald (crinkly film forms on top) the
    milk

    Add milk to egg mixture, stir quickly

    Add Rice and raisins, and vanilla, mix well.

    Pour into a 7 or 8 cup (2 quart) glass or earthware casserole. Place
    casserole dish in pan of water (water should come up sides of
    casserole 1 inch)

    SIZE OF CASSEROLE IS IMPORTANT TO JUDGE COOKING TIME.

    Sprinkle top with a little nutmeg and cinnamon.

    Place both pans in preheated 350 degree oven.

    Bakes about 1 hour 30 mins (or until knife inserted in middle
    of casserole comes out "clean" (SEE SPECIAL NOTE AND NOTE BELOW)

    Serves 4 to 6 people.

    SPECIAL NOTE FOR FULL RECIPE:
    If using 8 x 8 Gladware Disposable Bakeware (perfect size for full
    recipe) Baked at 350 for 60 minutes. Knife came out clean.

    NOTE: Half the recipe:

    Use smaller 4 cup (1 quart) casserole, but still place casserole
    in another pan with water in it.

    Bake for 45 to 60 until test with knife comes out clean.
    minutes in preheated 350 degree oven

    == Courtesy of Dale & Gail Shipp, Columbia Md. ===

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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Sean Dennis on Wed Jun 21 05:23:04 2023
    Sean Dennis wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I used to have McD's but it got to be such a PITA that I finally
    86ed it to the bit bucket and moved on to easier-to-use apps.

    It's better than it used to be but it's still poorly designed.

    "New & Improved" may be new but the jury is still out on improved.

    I got a blackened chicken sandwich w/mashed potatoes on my way home
    from AutoZone yesterday. Most excellent (and filling) late lunch.

    That does sound both delicious and filling.

    The breading on the blackened chicken is minimal - unlike their original chicken sandwich. I snagged 4 of their "Tuesday Specials" yesterday. Ate
    the drumsticks for supper and will do the thighs in 2 meals later in the
    week. The price is UP from just last year from U$1.29 to U$2.19. OWTCH!!
    It's still a bargain - just not a "killer" bargain.

    As long as they are using the guns on each oth

    8<----- CHOP ----->B

    Didja use breakfast sausage or Italian?

    Breakfast since it was all I had on hand but I did but some sweet
    Italian sausage today from ALDI. Spent about $50 but bought about
    two weeks' worth of groceries.

    I buy my Italian (and breakfast) sausage freshly made at Humphrey's.
    Last time I bought it was @ U$1.99/lb so I stocked up and sucky bagged
    the excess. I'm still eating off of that.

    I taught a young toots at a McDonald's how to do that. Her cash
    register didn't tell her how much change I was to get and she was
    lost. So I taught her how to use the sale as the starting point and progress from pennies to dollars to get back to the tender. She was amazed. Bv)=

    Yes, they usually are that such a skill exists. I need to start
    carrying cash more often. I can lose track of things easily using
    my debit card for lots of small purchases. When I was
    younger, I dealt primarily in cash with checks for large
    purchases (usually over $100).

    I use plastic for nearly everything. And check my bank's running tally
    A) to see where I am, money wise and B) to make sure nothing "odd" has
    been paid for without my knowledge (IOW - been hacked). My credit card
    plastic gives me 3% to 5% "rewards cash" for using their plastic. AmEx
    is 3% for $$$ spent at gass station and grocery stores and 1% on all
    other purchases. MasterCard (from PayPal) same deal and 5% on PayPal
    purchases. Discover has a rotating 5% rebate that changes quarterly - currently it's on restaurants/fast food. Until the end of June. Then
    next quarter it's gas stations and digital wallets (something I steer
    clear of).

    About the only things I use ca$h for these days is waitress bait. I get
    dollar coins, half-dollars and U$2 bills at my bank. When I return to a
    place after leaving a "funny money" tip I generally get amazing service.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Pan Roasted Wild Salmon w/Grape Tomatoes & Wilted Spinach
    Categories: Seafood, Vegetables, Greens
    Yield: 4 servings

    20 Whole grape tomatoes; pref
    - organic
    24 oz Wild Alaskan salmon
    10 oz Fresh organic spinach
    1 tb Grass-fed butter
    1/2 ts Fresh ground black pepper
    1/4 ts Celtic sea salt

    Set oven @ 400ºF/205ºC.

    Add butter to a medium oven-proof saute pan and heat
    over medium high heat.

    Rinse salmon, pat dry and sprinkle with salt and pepper.

    When butter has melted and pan is hot, add the salmon
    fillets - skin side up - to the pan.

    Cook 2-3 minutes. Do not turn.

    Add the grape tomatoes to the pan around the fish and
    stir gently, cooking 2 more minutes.

    Flip the fish.

    Place the pan in the oven to complete cooking to desired
    doneness (2 minutes for medium-rare; 4 minutes for
    medium-well).

    During the last minute of cooking, place the fresh
    spinach leaves over the salmon and allow to wilt.

    Remove from oven, layer spinach on plates and top with
    salmon and tomatoes.

    UDD NOTES: If you can get "organic", great. Otherwise
    use what you got. The "Celtic sea salt" is a pretension
    - according to the Mayo Clinic, Celtic sea salt is
    nutritionally the very similar to table salt. Just use
    regular butter (salted or unsalted - your choice) in
    place of the "Grass-fed" called out in the ingredients
    list.

    RECIPE FROM: https://discoveryeye.org

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Dale Shipp on Wed Jun 21 05:41:06 2023
    Dale Shipp wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I only had one gig as a restaurant cook. My friend (and current housr mate, Dennis) were given a working restaurant to run as a "front" for
    the commercial ladies on the second floor. Since Dennis is a disaster
    in any kitchen I was given charge of the kitchen ... sink or swim. I
    had to "tread water" for a week or so but I got pretty good at it,

    I have to question the good judgement of those who decide to open a restaurant -- too much stress and too high a failure rate.

    Depends on the area, the cuisine and the "chops" of the person opening
    the place. In our case we were "fronting" for the cat house upstairs and
    paid no rent or utility bills. Still, it was a *lot* of work to do it
    right.

    One day I had made sandwiches from a boiled cow's tongue and served
    with a bowl of beef barley soup. When I offered it to on e of the
    ladies who lived nearby (not a sex worker) she exclaimed "I'm not
    eating any thing that came from an animal's mouth. Can I have an egg sandwich with the soup?"

    I managed to get all the way back to the kitchen before I totally lost
    it.

    That is a line that never gets old :-}}

    Which? The egg sandwich? Or the not losing it? I sort of felt like I
    was living a comedy routine when I thought about it.

    Here is one of my most favorite desserts.

    That got me to thinking ... I'm not sure I have a favourite. As long
    as it doesn't have banananans or coconut hairs - down the hatch it will
    go.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: Rice Pudding
    Categories: D/g, Dessert, Boat
    Yield: 5 servings

    This one is pretty good, too.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Apple Rice Pudding
    Categories: Diabetic, Desserts, Rice, Fruits
    Yield: 6 Servings

    2 c Cooked rice *
    1 c Milk
    1 tb Liquid Sugartwin **
    - (1/4 c sugar)
    1/4 c Raisins; regular or golden
    1 ts Vanilla
    1/4 ts Cinnamon
    1/4 ts Nutmeg
    1 Tart apple; shredded peel on
    1/4 ts Ascorbic acid; colour
    - keeper ***

    1 tbsp liquid Sugartwin has the sweetness of 4 tbsp or 1/4
    cup sugar. American Diabetes Assoc. guidelines allow 1 tsp
    sugar per serving or 2 tbsp for a 6 serving recipe which
    would taste OK to people accustomed to low sugar recipes.

    Combine rice, milk, sweetener (or sugar) raisins, vanilla
    and spices. Bring to a boil, reduce heat and stir
    occasionally until the mixture is creamy.

    Core and shred apple and sprinkle with ascorbic acid color
    keeper, or with a little lemon juice. Stir apple into rice
    mixture. Cook a few minutes longer until apple is soft.
    Serve warm or cold.

    1/6 recipe made with artificial sweetner - 1 starch
    choice, 1 milk

    Optional: Cook 2/3 cup rice in 1 2/3 cups water. Make
    pudding as above without apple and add 2 tbsp coconut.

    Adapted from Light & Easy Choices by Kay Spicer, published
    in Canada. Shared by Elizabeth Rodier Jan 94.

    NOTES: * I used brown rice - just for S & G

    ** Granulated (dry) Sugar Twin is MUCH easier as it is
    a volume for volume substitute for sucrose sugar.

    *** Ascorbic acid is also known as vitamin C. While powder
    is available, a sprinkle of lemon or lime juice works just
    as well.

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    MMMMM

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Tue Jun 20 13:04:40 2023
    Hi Dave,

    I have three pooches here to pre-wash the supper dishes. and they're
    not picky, in the slightest.

    Ours weren't either. Had just one dog until I was about 12, then my
    folks added others, but never more than 2 at a time. We always had one
    or 2 cats but they didn't usually get left overs--their treat was the
    fish oil whenever my mom did anything with canned tuna. She would drain the can into the cat's dry kibble.

    Cats can be odd sometimes. I had one I named Spot (because she
    followed me around like a dog) who I shared some hamburger-based red

    Craziest cat name we ever gave one was Dog. Mom (Socrates, had a brother Hippocrates) had kittens, dad thought we'd give them all away. To tell
    them apart, he designated them Able, Baker, Charlie and Dog. First 3
    found homes, mom cat died on the operating table during her spaying. Hippocrates had passed on before that--found out there was a genetic
    heart defect in that cat line. Kept Dog, kept the name. She went on to
    have a litter at the start of the Apollo 11 moon shot so for designators
    we used Neil, Buzz, Michael and Diana (Roman goddess of the moon).

    gravy from
    the spaghetti. She licked up all of the sauce and left the meat.
    Pretty odd behaviour for a cat.

    Quite so. We had a kitten and Sam who were both popcorn lovers.


    I never have oil from tuna these days as I *always* get the "Packed in Water" stuff. Haven't had heartburn since I switched. Bv)=

    This was in the pre "packed in water" days, took a long time for things
    like that to reach our "neck of the woods".


    This is from a cookbook I published (wish I had a copy) when I wore a younger man's clothes called "Advice For The Newly Single". It was for freshly graduated, living away from Mom & Dad for the first time. Or
    newly divorced man on their own with no housekeeping chops nor cooking skills.

    It was first printed in my newspaper column, "The Dim View"

    Put out a call for it on your neighborhood group; somebody may have a
    copy or know of someone who knows someone with a copy.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Tue Jun 20 13:17:31 2023
    Hi Dave,

    and heading for home. Saves stopping at the cashier and the order is
    ready before I get to the delivery window.

    That would be handy if you used it regularly. We're irregular enough at fast food places that it probably wouldn't do us any good. A CFA app, maybe. Went by our regular CFA after getting back in town from Alaska

    In my NSHO fast food should also be convenient. Chick Filly seems to
    be in no way convenient.

    They need to build more outlets--it's so popular that the existing
    stores can't hardly keep up with the demand.


    Several things at play here ... I'm not a fan of Chick Filly, even if
    I could order ahead on-line or in an app I'd still have to wait for
    the line to creep forward. And the CFA store is about as far from me
    as it can be and still be in the same city. Within a few blocks I have McDonald's, a Herdee's, and a Freddies Frozen Custard & Burgers in a little cluster. A little further out I have Popeyes, Wendy's, Taco
    Bell, Burger Whop, Arbee's, Culver's, and several wing-ding places,
    as well as a Subway, Jimmy John's, Chipotle, and a Panda Express for Chinese Fats Food.

    Popeyes has recently added a "blackened" chicken sandwich to their
    menu. I snagged one (spicy) on my way home from work yesterday. With
    the side of mash w/Cajun gravy I didn't have anything for supper
    except a small
    tub (5 1/2 oz) of Chobani active culture yoghurt w/cherries.

    Pays your money, takes your choice. We have quite a few (but not all)
    of those, but scattered thru the town. Hardees closed up shop a couple
    of years ago and nobody has taken over their building.

    I've got five Hardee's scattered around town. The one closest to being
    in the center of town is open 24/7. And one is known as the "Rock 'n' Roll" Hardee's. It has a motorcycle on display in the store, a band
    shell in a corner of the (extra-large) parking lot for live music
    shows and to act as a stage for Cruise-Ins and car shows. The Route 66 Mother Road Festival starts one of their "cruise" events from that Hardee's and it's a stop on Hot Rod Magazine's tours. It's also
    physically the largest of the local fats food joints.

    Wouldn't have worked in WF; the Hardee's was smack in the middle of the
    old down town area. Not enough room for much of a parking lot, let alone
    a stage for car shows.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Dave Drum on Thu Jun 22 01:50:04 2023
    On 06-21-23 05:41, Dave Drum <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Travelling PT 1 <=-

    I have to question the good judgement of those who decide to open a restaurant -- too much stress and too high a failure rate.

    Depends on the area, the cuisine and the "chops" of the person opening
    the place. In our case we were "fronting" for the cat house upstairs
    and paid no rent or utility bills. Still, it was a *lot* of work to do
    it right.

    I would exclude a restaurant that is really just a front as you said, or
    some sort of money laundering operation which was not your case.

    We watch a show called Restaurant Impossible. It is supposed to be a
    reality show where Robert Irvine swoops in and saves a dying restaurant
    -- all in two days and US$10,000. There is a lot to not believe about
    the show, but it is clear that the owners are presenting a failure.
    Sometimes they have lost $250,000 per year for several years -- mortgage
    on the house, maxed out multiple credit cards, and not paid taxes. Our
    biggest take away is why didn't the owners fold up shop years ago.

    One day I had made sandwiches from a boiled cow's tongue and served
    with a bowl of beef barley soup. When I offered it to on e of the
    ladies who lived nearby (not a sex worker) she exclaimed "I'm not
    eating any thing that came from an animal's mouth. Can I have an egg sandwich with the soup?"

    I managed to get all the way back to the kitchen before I totally lost
    it.

    That is a line that never gets old :-}}

    Which? The egg sandwich? Or the not losing it? I sort of felt like I
    was living a comedy routine when I thought about it.

    Which = the whole routine. I did probably hear it from you at the
    picnic at Janet Kracht's picnic, where Nancy cooked a tongue for us.

    Here is one of my most favorite desserts.

    That got me to thinking ... I'm not sure I have a favorite. As long
    as it doesn't have banananans or coconut hairs - down the hatch it
    will go.

    Here we are presented with ten choices for dessert. This month they
    have a java chip ice cream that we like. It is popular enough that they
    have run out of it for several weeks before it is our time to order.
    There is a decent, but not great, bread pudding. As to the things that
    Gail cooks, my favorites are rice pudding and pecan pie. Top of the
    list from the restaurant when they have it is lemon meringue pie. I like
    a good fruit pie, but rarely try one of them from the restaurant.



    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: Rae's Vegetarian Chili - For Move
    Categories: Vegetarian, Easy, Tested
    Yield: 13 Cups

    4 ea Cloves garlic, minced
    1 c Onions, finely chopped
    1/2 c Red bell pepper fine chopped
    1/2 c Celery, finely chopped
    3 tb Olive oil
    28 oz Can diced tomato with juice
    8 oz Can tomato sauce
    6 oz Can tomato paste
    12 oz Beer (Not Dark)
    4 tb Chili power or to taste
    1 tb Mustard powder
    1 ts Dried oregano
    1/2 ts Black pepper
    1 1/2 ts Ground cumin
    1/8 ts Hot pepper sauce
    2 ea 15 oz can black beans
    -NOT drained
    1 ea 15 oz can garbanzo beans
    -Drained/rinsed
    1 ea 15 oz can pinto beans
    -Drained/rinsed
    2 ea 15 oz cans kidney beans
    -NOT drained
    1 ea 15 oz can Cannelli beans
    -Drained/rinsed
    1 ea 15 oz can whole corn
    -NOT drained

    MMMMM----------------------FINISHING TOUCH---------------------------
    3 tb Brown sugar

    MMMMM--------------------------GARNISH-------------------------------
    Fresh cooked macaroni
    Finely diced onions
    Shredded Mexican blend
    OR
    Shredded cheddar cheese

    In large sauce pot, saute garlic, onion, bell pepper and celery in oil
    until translucent.

    Add canned diced tomatoes (undrained), tomato sauce, beer, tomato
    paste, the spices, and hot sauce.

    Stir in the various beans and bring mixture to a boil. Reduce heat
    and let simmer for 30 to 40 minutes.

    When you turn off the chili pot, stir in 3 teaspoons of brown sugar.
    Stir well so it dissolves.

    Variation of Rae's Vegertarian Chili at Allrecipes.com.

    Tested 11-07 for Bryan's move to new house. Everyone liked this chili
    ~ even the meat eaters. Will make again.

    MMMMM


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  • From Dave Drum@1:229/452 to Ruth Haffly on Thu Jun 22 06:03:20 2023
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I have three pooches here to pre-wash the supper dishes. and they're
    not picky, in the slightest.

    Ours weren't either. Had just one dog until I was about 12, then my
    folks added others, but never more than 2 at a time. We always had one
    or 2 cats but they didn't usually get left overs--their treat was the
    fish oil whenever my mom did anything with canned tuna. She would drain the can into the cat's dry kibble.

    Cats can be odd sometimes. I had one I named Spot (because she
    followed me around like a dog) who I shared some hamburger-based red

    Craziest cat name we ever gave one was Dog. Mom (Socrates, had a
    brother Hippocrates) had kittens, dad thought we'd give them all away.
    To tell them apart, he designated them Able, Baker, Charlie and Dog.

    So it was a "convenience" name, not a personality one?

    First 3 found homes, mom cat died on the operating table during her spaying. Hippocrates had passed on before that--found out there was a genetic heart defect in that cat line. Kept Dog, kept the name. She
    went on to have a litter at the start of the Apollo 11 moon shot so for designators we used Neil, Buzz, Michael and Diana (Roman goddess of the moon).

    Darwin was right, you know.

    gravy from
    the spaghetti. She licked up all of the sauce and left the meat.
    Pretty odd behaviour for a cat.

    Quite so. We had a kitten and Sam who were both popcorn lovers.

    Spot was the first (and only) cat I ever saw who would leave meat in
    her bowl.

    I never have oil from tuna these days as I *always* get the "Packed in Water" stuff. Haven't had heartburn since I switched. Bv)=

    This was in the pre "packed in water" days, took a long time for things like that to reach our "neck of the woods".

    I used to half-open the cans of packed in oil fish and let it drain over
    the kitty kibble. The cats loved it.

    This is from a cookbook I published (wish I had a copy) when I wore a younger man's clothes called "Advice For The Newly Single". It was for freshly graduated, living away from Mom & Dad for the first time. Or
    newly divorced man on their own with no housekeeping chops nor cooking skills.

    It was first printed in my newspaper column, "The Dim View"

    Put out a call for it on your neighborhood group; somebody may have a
    copy or know of someone who knows someone with a copy.

    I've been looking for years. I "rescued" many of the recipes by going
    through the archives of the college I was attending at the time. That
    was in '69 when Lincoln Land was in temporary pre-fab buildings and the
    whole thing was a learning experience for all concerned. The student
    newspaper was a single 8 1/2 X 14 slick paper, single fold thing that
    looked like a PTA newsletter. My friend John and I took it and turned
    it into a "real" ad-supported NEWS paper. Number of pages varied with
    the amount of news happening and, more importantly, with the advertising revenue. But never less than an 8 page tabloid. After we left LLCC (a
    two year community college) and moved on to Sangamon State University
    (an "upper division" university) which featured junior and senior year
    college programs and graduate studies we started a student/campus paper
    called the "Spectrum" on the same model as the LLCC Lamp. We managed
    to put ourselves through to degrees on the revenue from the Spectrum.
    John, to a Bachelor's in Literature and me to a Master's in Public
    Affairs.

    That school, which I was in on the founding of, is now the University
    of Illinois at Springfield.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Gnocchi & Tomato Bake
    Categories: Pasta, Vegetables, Herbs, Cheese
    Yield: 4 servings

    1 tb Olive oil
    1 md Onion; chopped
    1 lg Red ball pepper; seeded,
    - fine chopped
    1 cl Garlic; crushed
    400 g (14 oz) can chopped tomatoes
    500 g (1 lb) pack gnocchi
    Handful basil leaves; torn
    225 g (8 oz) ball mozzarella; torn
    - in chunks

    Heat grill to high. Heat 1 tbsp olive oil in a large
    frying pan, then soften 1 chopped onion and 1 finely
    chopped red pepper for 5 mins.

    Stir in 1 crushed garlic clove, fry for 1 min, tip in
    400 g chopped tomatoes and 500 g gnocchi, then bring
    to a simmer.

    Bubble for 10-15 mins, stirring occasionally, until the
    gnocchi is soft and the sauce has thickened.

    Season, stir through a handful of torn basil leaves,
    then transfer to a large ovenproof dish.

    Scatter with torn chunks of a mozzarella ball, then
    grill for 5-6 mins until the cheese is bubbling and
    golden.

    NOTE: A classic student dish, pasta bake doesn't have to
    be the cheese-laden vision we imagine on hearing the
    words. Let storecupboard staples like pasta and tinned
    tomatoes be your base, then get creative with your
    favourite veg, herbs and creme fraiche for a lovely
    texture with less of the stodge.

    By: Roxanne Fisher

    Serves 4

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.bbcgoodfood.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

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  • From Dave Drum@1:229/452 to Ruth Haffly on Thu Jun 22 07:04:00 2023
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    and heading for home. Saves stopping at the cashier and the order is
    ready before I get to the delivery window.

    That would be handy if you used it regularly. We're irregular enough at fast food places that it probably wouldn't do us any good. A CFA app, maybe. Went by our regular CFA after getting back in town from Alaska

    In my NSHO fast food should also be convenient. Chick Filly seems to
    be in no way convenient.

    They need to build more outlets--it's so popular that the existing
    stores can't hardly keep up with the demand.

    That would be up to the "Mother Ship". "Chick-fil-A franchises function
    as an operator-only system, which never confers location ownership to
    the franchisee.

    "Katherine Wade was the original name on the store's owner/operator
    plaque at the entrance to the restaurant when the brand returned to Springfield in 2016. Wade relocated to Raleigh, N.C. in June where
    she operates Chick-fil-A's outlet in Lake Boone Trail."

    8<----- SNIP -----.B

    Pays your money, takes your choice. We have quite a few (but not all)
    of those, but scattered thru the town. Hardees closed up shop a couple
    of years ago and nobody has taken over their building.

    One of my Hardee's (nearest to my hoe) is in a repurposed Wendy's site.
    It's about 200 yards from where what was formerly the highest volume in
    the chain Hardee's stood until a tornado knocked it down to its concrete pad/foundation. Oddly the very tall sign (to be seen from the I-55- highway remained intact.

    I've got five Hardee's scattered around town. The one closest to being
    in the center of town is open 24/7. And one is known as the "Rock 'n' Roll" Hardee's. It has a motorcycle on display in the store, a band
    shell in a corner of the (extra-large) parking lot for live music
    shows and to act as a stage for Cruise-Ins and car shows. The Route 66 Mother Road Festival starts one of their "cruise" events from that Hardee's and it's a stop on Hot Rod Magazine's tours. It's also
    physically the largest of the local fats food joints.

    Wouldn't have worked in WF; the Hardee's was smack in the middle of the old down town area. Not enough room for much of a parking lot, let
    alone a stage for car shows.

    The Rock & Roll Hardee's is on the (former) edge of town with easy (fairly) interstate and major streets access. At my motorcycle club meeting last
    night there were three motorcycle "cruises" and one car/motorcycle show announced for that location.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Hardee's Mushroom & Swiss Burger
    Categories: Beef, Cheese, Mushrooms, Herbs
    Yield: 4 servings

    0 1/2 oz Can Campbell's Golden
    - Mushroom Soup
    4 1/2 oz Can sliced mushrooms
    1 ts Worcestershire sauce
    4 sl Ementhal (Swiss) cheese
    4 (4 oz ea) burger patties
    - uncooked
    1/2 ts Accent Seasoning
    1/2 ts Lawry's Seasoned Salt
    1/4 ts fresh ground Black Pepper
    4 lg Hamburger buns; seeds opt

    In a small sauce pan, mix mushroom soup, mushrooms and
    Worcestershire sauce. Place on low heat and let simmer.

    Mix Accent, Lawry's and black pepper together. Place in
    a small bowl or put in a shaker.

    Season the patties with Accent mixture.

    Fry or grill to desired doneness. (Note, Do not press
    down on the patties - you must resist this impulse.)

    Place a patty onto a bottom bun.

    Cover with cheese.

    Spoon a generous amount of warm mushroom sauce over all.

    RECIPE FROM: https://secretcopycatrestaurantrecipes.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Thu Jun 22 13:53:42 2023
    Hi Dave,

    Cats can be odd sometimes. I had one I named Spot (because she
    followed me around like a dog) who I shared some hamburger-based red

    Craziest cat name we ever gave one was Dog. Mom (Socrates, had a
    brother Hippocrates) had kittens, dad thought we'd give them all away.
    To tell them apart, he designated them Able, Baker, Charlie and Dog.

    So it was a "convenience" name, not a personality one?

    Exactly! He served in the Navy during WWII and that was the standard
    phonetic alphabet at the time. Steve learned Alpha, Bravo, Charlie and
    Delta when he went into the Army; Nato uses that version. I learned it
    from just listening to him use it--comes in handy when I have to spell
    my last name on the phone--if people are familiar with it. We've heard a
    lot of varients over the ham radio airwaves in the past few years tho.

    First 3 found homes, mom cat died on the operating table during her spaying. Hippocrates had passed on before that--found out there was
    a RH> genetic heart defect in that cat line. Kept Dog, kept the name.
    She RH> went on to have a litter at the start of the Apollo 11 moon
    shot so for RH> designators we used Neil, Buzz, Michael and Diana
    (Roman goddess of the RH> moon).

    Darwin was right, you know.

    They were all good cats--hired for the mousekeeping.


    gravy from
    the spaghetti. She licked up all of the sauce and left the meat.
    Pretty odd behaviour for a cat.

    Quite so. We had a kitten and Sam who were both popcorn lovers.

    Spot was the first (and only) cat I ever saw who would leave meat in
    her bowl.

    Jenny-cat left lamb and rice in her dish--she actually pushed the dish
    away and refused to eat it. Vet had perscribed it as we were trying to
    figure out some health issues so she said to put her back on what she
    was used to eating.

    I used to half-open the cans of packed in oil fish and let it drain
    over the kitty kibble. The cats loved it.

    Kibble disappeared rather fast when topped with fish oil. (G)

    This is from a cookbook I published (wish I had a copy) when I wore
    a DD> younger man's clothes called "Advice For The Newly Single". It
    was for DD> freshly graduated, living away from Mom & Dad for the first
    time. Or DD> newly divorced man on their own with no housekeeping chops
    nor cooking DD> skills.

    It was first printed in my newspaper column, "The Dim View"

    Put out a call for it on your neighborhood group; somebody may have a
    copy or know of someone who knows someone with a copy.

    I've been looking for years. I "rescued" many of the recipes by going through the archives of the college I was attending at the time. That
    to put ourselves through to degrees on the revenue from the Spectrum. John, to a Bachelor's in Literature and me to a Master's in Public Affairs.

    That school, which I was in on the founding of, is now the University
    of Illinois at Springfield.

    Sounds like it started as a Baby Boomer school and just grew from there.
    The college I graduated from became a university last year; it's not
    that big but they had their reasons. Like Fort Bragg is now Fort
    Liberty; I'll always think of Houghton College and Fort Bragg.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Thu Jun 22 14:12:52 2023
    Hi Dave,

    In my NSHO fast food should also be convenient. Chick Filly seems to
    be in no way convenient.

    They need to build more outlets--it's so popular that the existing
    stores can't hardly keep up with the demand.

    That would be up to the "Mother Ship". "Chick-fil-A franchises
    function as an operator-only system, which never confers location ownership to
    the franchisee.

    Unlike other fast food places where a franchise is purchased.


    "Katherine Wade was the original name on the store's owner/operator
    plaque at the entrance to the restaurant when the brand returned to Springfield in 2016. Wade relocated to Raleigh, N.C. in June where
    she operates Chick-fil-A's outlet in Lake Boone Trail."

    I think we've been to that one a few times. Need to be in that area for
    an appointment on Monday & also take my sewing machine in for a tune up
    nearby so may stop there for lunch.


    Wouldn't have worked in WF; the Hardee's was smack in the middle of the old down town area. Not enough room for much of a parking lot, let
    alone a stage for car shows.

    The Rock & Roll Hardee's is on the (former) edge of town with easy (fairly) interstate and major streets access. At my motorcycle club meeting last night there were three motorcycle "cruises" and one car/motorcycle show announced for that location.


    Good for the burger business those days. (G)

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Sat Jun 24 06:52:00 2023
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Cats can be odd sometimes. I had one I named Spot (because she
    followed me around like a dog) who I shared some hamburger-based red

    Craziest cat name we ever gave one was Dog. Mom (Socrates, had a
    brother Hippocrates) had kittens, dad thought we'd give them all away.
    To tell them apart, he designated them Able, Baker, Charlie and Dog.

    So it was a "convenience" name, not a personality one?

    Exactly! He served in the Navy during WWII and that was the standard phonetic alphabet at the time. Steve learned Alpha, Bravo, Charlie and Delta when he went into the Army; Nato uses that version. I learned it from just listening to him use it--comes in handy when I have to spell
    my last name on the phone--if people are familiar with it. We've heard
    a lot of varients over the ham radio airwaves in the past few years
    tho.

    I still use it in my work. the letters B,C,D,E,T and Z are homonyms and
    easily mistaken for one another - especially over the telephone. I spell things using my own "made up on the fly" phonetic alphabet. A may be
    "Adam", "Alpha", or "AutoZone" and so on. As long as there is no doubt
    as to which letter I mean. It helps to prevent misteaks. Bv)=

    First 3 found homes, mom cat died on the operating table during her spaying. Hippocrates had passed on before that--found out there was
    a RH> genetic heart defect in that cat line. Kept Dog, kept the name.
    She RH> went on to have a litter at the start of the Apollo 11 moon
    shot so for RH> designators we used Neil, Buzz, Michael and Diana
    (Roman goddess of the RH> moon).

    Darwin was right, you know.

    They were all good cats--hired for the mousekeeping.

    When I was running the satellite shop we had a cat that one of the techs brought from an installation. She was a very friendly kitten, just old
    enough to be weaned. She's catch a mouse and play with it until it died. Probably from sheer exhaustion. Mom cat was a barn cat - but apparently
    had not had time to teach her daughter how to hunt. So, in an effort to
    show Callie that mice were "food" I took one of her victims and placed
    it on top of her bowl of kibble. She batted the dead mouse out of the
    way and went to crunching her Friskies. Bv)=

    But she did keep the mouse population at a minimum.

    gravy from
    the spaghetti. She licked up all of the sauce and left the meat.
    Pretty odd behaviour for a cat.

    Quite so. We had a kitten and Sam who were both popcorn lovers.

    Spot was the first (and only) cat I ever saw who would leave meat in
    her bowl.

    Jenny-cat left lamb and rice in her dish--she actually pushed the dish away and refused to eat it. Vet had perscribed it as we were trying to figure out some health issues so she said to put her back on what she
    was used to eating.

    Never try to out-stubborn a cat.

    I used to half-open the cans of packed in oil fish and let it drain
    over the kitty kibble. The cats loved it.

    Kibble disappeared rather fast when topped with fish oil. (G)

    You betchum, Red Ryder (and if you remember that comix strip you're
    older than I thought.

    This is from a cookbook I published (wish I had a copy) when I wore
    a younger man's clothes called "Advice For The Newly Single". It
    was for freshly graduated, living away from Mom & Dad for the
    first time. Or newly divorced man on their own with no house
    keeping chops nor cooking skills.

    It was first printed in my newspaper column, "The Dim View"

    Put out a call for it on your neighborhood group; somebody may have a
    copy or know of someone who knows someone with a copy.

    I've been looking for years. I "rescued" many of the recipes by going through the archives of the college I was attending at the time. That
    to put ourselves through to degrees on the revenue from the Spectrum. John, to a Bachelor's in Literature and me to a Master's in Public Affairs.

    That school, which I was in on the founding of, is now the University
    of Illinois at Springfield.

    Sounds like it started as a Baby Boomer school and just grew from
    there. The college I graduated from became a university last year; it's not that big but they had their reasons. Like Fort Bragg is now Fort Liberty; I'll always think of Houghton College and Fort Bragg.

    I'm not sure that I'm on board with all the "politically correct" renaming
    that has been going on. Especially the military bases. The people for whom
    they were named were leaders who fought for the principles in which they believed and were true to their cause .... which even if it was wrong, or
    has fallen out of favour are still core values that soldiers/sailors or
    wing wipers should practice.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Calico Rice
    Categories: Rice, Vegetables, Herbs
    Yield: 8 Servings

    3 c Water
    1 1/2 c Rice
    1 md Onion; chopped
    1 c Chopped carrots
    1 c Celery; sliced thin
    2 tb Bell pepper; sliced thin, or
    - more to taste
    2 Green onions; sliced
    2 Sprigs fresh rosemary
    2 ts Fresh sage
    3 tb Olive oil; more as needed
    Salt & pepper

    Cook rice according to directions; set aside.

    In a wok, combine all veggies and olive oil; cook till
    tender adding 1 sprig of fresh rosemary. Add rice to
    mixture. Add more olive oil, rosemary and sage. Season
    with salt & pepper. Toss till combined.

    Serve with any kind of meat. I have stir fried chicken
    pieces in this as well. I have also made it with brown
    rice.

    By Kimi Gaines

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.justapinch.com

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Sat Jun 24 06:58:00 2023
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    In my NSHO fast food should also be convenient. Chick Filly seems to
    be in no way convenient.

    They need to build more outlets--it's so popular that the existing
    stores can't hardly keep up with the demand.

    That would be up to the "Mother Ship". "Chick-fil-A franchises
    function as an operator-only system, which never confers location ownership to the franchisee.

    Unlike other fast food places where a franchise is purchased.

    Oh, you still have to buy the franchise. And you have to fit Chick Filly's profile as well as dance to their tune. To open a Chick-fil-A franchise,
    you need to have a net worth of more than U$350,000, have prior management
    and leadership experience, be available for full-time commitment and
    training, You also must evaluate market availability & location preferences, submit a tiered application then go through a selection process and receive approval from the franchisor.

    Check out this "Top 6 Reasons to NOT Buy a Chick-fil-A Franchise" https://www.franchise.city/chick-fil-a-franchise

    "Katherine Wade was the original name on the store's owner/operator
    plaque at the entrance to the restaurant when the brand returned to Springfield in 2016. Wade relocated to Raleigh, N.C. in June where
    she operates Chick-fil-A's outlet in Lake Boone Trail."

    I think we've been to that one a few times. Need to be in that area for
    an appointment on Monday & also take my sewing machine in for a tune up nearby so may stop there for lunch.

    There should be a plaque inside the front door which may have her name
    on it or the name of the original franchisee.

    Wouldn't have worked in WF; the Hardee's was smack in the middle of the old down town area. Not enough room for much of a parking lot, let
    alone a stage for car shows.

    The Rock & Roll Hardee's is on the (former) edge of town with easy (fairly) interstate and major streets access. At my motorcycle club meeting last night there were three motorcycle "cruises" and one car/motorcycle show announced for that location.

    Good for the burger business those days. (G)

    No one ever said they weren't good at marketing.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: The Frisco Burger (copycat)
    Categories: Beef, Cheese, Vegetables, Breads, Pork
    Yield: 1 big sandwich

    2 sl Sourdough bread
    2 tb Butter; softened
    1/3 lb 80% lean ground beef
    2 sl Ementhal (Swiss) cheese
    2 tb (to 4 tb) mayonnaise
    2 sl Tomato
    2 sl Cooked bacon; or more
    Salt & ground pepper

    Spread butter on one side of each piece of sourdough
    bread.

    Place a medium skillet or griddle over medium heat. Once
    the pan has pre-heated for 4 or 5 minutes add the slices
    of bread, butter side down. Toast for 2 to 4 minutes or
    until the outside surface of the bread is golden brown
    and toasty. You can toast the other side of the bread if
    you want, but it's not required.

    Raise the temperature under your pan/griddle to
    medium-high

    Once the bread is toasted to your liking, form the third
    pound of ground beef into a thin patty (3/4" thick) that
    is a little bit wider than your toast (or as close as
    you can get). Salt and pepper the ground beef patty and
    place the seasoned side down in the hot pan. Season the
    second side and allow the patty to cook, untouched, for
    3 to 4 minutes.

    Flip the patty and add one or two slices of cheese on
    top of the patty. Cover the pan to help the cheese melt
    and cook the second side for at least 2 minutes. If
    you're worried about undercooking the burger, cook the
    second side for an additional 2 to 3 minutes.

    Remove the patty to a plate while you assemble the rest
    of your burger.

    Add mayonnaise and the second slice of cheese to the
    inside of the bottom slice of bread. Top the cheese with
    your tomato slices. Season the tomato with a tiny pinch
    of salt and ground black pepper.

    Top the tomato slices with the burger patty and cheese.
    Add slices of bacon and top with the second slice of
    sourdough that you have also spread mayonnaise on.

    RECIPE FROM: https://boundedbybuns.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sat Jun 24 15:28:48 2023
    Hi Dave,

    To tell them apart, he designated them Able, Baker, Charlie and Dog.

    So it was a "convenience" name, not a personality one?

    Exactly! He served in the Navy during WWII and that was the standard phonetic alphabet at the time. Steve learned Alpha, Bravo, Charlie and Delta when he went into the Army; Nato uses that version. I learned it from just listening to him use it--comes in handy when I have to spell
    my last name on the phone--if people are familiar with it. We've heard
    a lot of varients over the ham radio airwaves in the past few years
    tho.

    I still use it in my work. the letters B,C,D,E,T and Z are homonyms
    and easily mistaken for one another - especially over the telephone. I

    F and S, M and N are common "mishearings"; we've had I don't know how
    many times people have mixed up them up, especially the former. When
    Steve was in the Army and I'd have to make medical appointments on the
    phone, it was so much easier to use the phonetic spelling of our last
    name. At least I knew people on the other end would know it that way!
    (G) Our girls fussed at me but I think they eventually saw the wisdom of
    my doing so--and still do so from time to time.

    spell things using my own "made up on the fly" phonetic alphabet. A
    may be DD> "Adam", "Alpha", or "AutoZone" and so on. As long as
    there is no doubt DD> as to which letter I mean. It helps to prevent
    misteaks. Bv)=

    If you live near a military installation, probably a lot of people would
    know the NATO alphabet. I didn't set out to intentionally learn it; just
    sort of picked it up thru hearing it enough times. (G)

    name. RH> She RH> went on to have a litter at the start of the Apollo
    11 moon RH> shot so for RH> designators we used Neil, Buzz, Michael
    and Diana RH> (Roman goddess of the RH> moon).

    Darwin was right, you know.

    They were all good cats--hired for the mousekeeping.

    When I was running the satellite shop we had a cat that one of the
    techs brought from an installation. She was a very friendly kitten,
    just old
    enough to be weaned. She's catch a mouse and play with it until it
    died. Probably from sheer exhaustion. Mom cat was a barn cat - but apparently had not had time to teach her daughter how to hunt. So, in
    an effort to show Callie that mice were "food" I took one of her
    victims and placed
    it on top of her bowl of kibble. She batted the dead mouse out of the
    way and went to crunching her Friskies. Bv)=

    I don't know if Jenny-cat ever caught a mouse--she was abused as a
    kitten and put into a shelter, then adopted out from there. I think her
    abuser must have been a man because she was a lot more skittish around
    them, than women, tho she was quite skittish around most of them also.
    With me, she was a lap cat.


    But she did keep the mouse population at a minimum.

    Doing what she was paid to do. Maybe something about the taste of dead
    mouse was a turn off.

    gravy from DD> the spaghetti. She licked up all of the sauce and
    left the meat. DD> Pretty odd behaviour for a cat.

    Quite so. We had a kitten and Sam who were both popcorn lovers.

    Spot was the first (and only) cat I ever saw who would leave meat in
    her bowl.

    Jenny-cat left lamb and rice in her dish--she actually pushed the dish away and refused to eat it. Vet had perscribed it as we were trying to figure out some health issues so she said to put her back on what she
    was used to eating.

    Never try to out-stubborn a cat.

    For sure!


    I used to half-open the cans of packed in oil fish and let it drain
    over the kitty kibble. The cats loved it.

    Kibble disappeared rather fast when topped with fish oil. (G)

    You betchum, Red Ryder (and if you remember that comix strip you're
    older than I thought.

    I've seen references to it but never saw the strip, itself.


    This is from a cookbook I published (wish I had a copy) when I wore
    a younger man's clothes called "Advice For The Newly Single". It
    was for freshly graduated, living away from Mom & Dad for the
    first time. Or newly divorced man on their own with no house
    keeping chops nor cooking skills.

    It was first printed in my newspaper column, "The Dim View"

    Put out a call for it on your neighborhood group; somebody may have a
    copy or know of someone who knows someone with a copy.

    I've been looking for years. I "rescued" many of the recipes by going through the archives of the college I was attending at the time. That
    to put ourselves through to degrees on the revenue from the Spectrum. John, to a Bachelor's in Literature and me to a Master's in Public Affairs.

    That school, which I was in on the founding of, is now the University
    of Illinois at Springfield.

    Sounds like it started as a Baby Boomer school and just grew from
    there. The college I graduated from became a university last year; it's not that big but they had their reasons. Like Fort Bragg is now Fort Liberty; I'll always think of Houghton College and Fort Bragg.

    I'm not sure that I'm on board with all the "politically correct"
    renaming that has been going on. Especially the military bases. The
    people for whom they were named were leaders who fought for the
    principles in which they believed and were true to their cause ....
    which even if it was wrong, or has fallen out of favour are still core values that soldiers/sailors or wing wipers should practice.

    I know, and I'm hoping that with some of the re-names, that someone in
    the not too distant future will have the sense to change them back to
    their original names. I know Fort Hood was another of the re-names but
    it will always be Fort Hood to me. Had my first taste of real real (not restaurant or Tex-Mex) Mexican food while we were stationed there--went
    on a mission trip to Eagle Pass, TX, Piedras Negras, Mexico and the
    ladies of the church down there cooked for us one day. Taco Bell has
    never been the same since. (G)


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sat Jun 24 16:01:26 2023
    Hi Dave,

    That would be up to the "Mother Ship". "Chick-fil-A franchises
    function as an operator-only system, which never confers location ownership to the franchisee.

    Unlike other fast food places where a franchise is purchased.

    Oh, you still have to buy the franchise. And you have to fit Chick
    Filly's profile as well as dance to their tune. To open a Chick-fil-A franchise, you need to have a net worth of more than U$350,000, have
    prior management and leadership experience, be available for full-time commitment and
    training, You also must evaluate market availability & location preferences, submit a tiered application then go through a selection process and receive approval from the franchisor.

    Check out this "Top 6 Reasons to NOT Buy a Chick-fil-A Franchise" https://www.franchise.city/chick-fil-a-franchise

    OK, I'm not planning to buy a franchise any time soon.


    "Katherine Wade was the original name on the store's owner/operator
    plaque at the entrance to the restaurant when the brand returned to Springfield in 2016. Wade relocated to Raleigh, N.C. in June where
    she operates Chick-fil-A's outlet in Lake Boone Trail."

    I think we've been to that one a few times. Need to be in that area for
    an appointment on Monday & also take my sewing machine in for a tune up nearby so may stop there for lunch.

    There should be a plaque inside the front door which may have her name
    on it or the name of the original franchisee.

    If we go, I'll let you know.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:229/452 to Ruth Haffly on Mon Jun 26 06:28:01 2023
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I still use it in my work. the letters B,C,D,E,T and Z are homonyms
    and easily mistaken for one another - especially over the telephone. I

    F and S, M and N are common "mishearings"; we've had I don't know how
    many times people have mixed up them up, especially the former. When

    Those as well.

    Steve was in the Army and I'd have to make medical appointments on the phone, it was so much easier to use the phonetic spelling of our last name. At least I knew people on the other end would know it that way!
    (G) Our girls fussed at me but I think they eventually saw the wisdom
    of my doing so--and still do so from time to time.

    spell things using my own "made up on the fly" phonetic alphabet. A
    may be DD> "Adam", "Alpha", or "AutoZone" and so on. As long as
    there is no doubt as to which letter I mean. It helps to prevent
    misteaks. Bv)=

    If you live near a military installation, probably a lot of people
    would know the NATO alphabet. I didn't set out to intentionally learn
    it; just sort of picked it up thru hearing it enough times. (G)

    name. She went on to have a litter at the start of the Apollo
    11 moon shot so for RH> designators we used Neil, Buzz, Michael
    and Diana (Roman goddess of the RH> moon).

    Darwin was right, you know.

    They were all good cats--hired for the mousekeeping.

    So, three tom cats and a pussycat?

    When I was running the satellite shop we had a cat that one of the
    techs brought from an installation. She was a very friendly kitten,
    just old enough to be weaned. She'd catch a mouse and play with it
    until itdied. Probably from sheer exhaustion. Mom cat was a barn
    cat - but apparently had not had time to teach her daughter how to
    hunt. So, in an effort to show Callie that mice were "food" I took
    one of her victims and placed it on top of her bowl of kibble. She
    batted the dead mouse out of the way and went to crunching her
    Friskies. Bv)=

    I don't know if Jenny-cat ever caught a mouse--she was abused as a
    kitten and put into a shelter, then adopted out from there. I think her abuser must have been a man because she was a lot more skittish around them, than women, tho she was quite skittish around most of them also. With me, she was a lap cat.

    But she did keep the mouse population at a minimum.

    Doing what she was paid to do. Maybe something about the taste
    of dead mouse was a turn off.

    I think she just didn't recognize it as food.

    gravy from DD> the spaghetti. She licked up all of the sauce and
    left the meat. Pretty odd behaviour for a cat.

    Quite so. We had a kitten and Sam who were both popcorn lovers.

    Spot was the first (and only) cat I ever saw who would leave meat
    in her bowl.

    Jenny-cat left lamb and rice in her dish--she actually pushed the dish away and refused to eat it. Vet had perscribed it as we were trying to figure out some health issues so she said to put her back on what she
    was used to eating.

    Never try to out-stubborn a cat.

    For sure!

    I used to half-open the cans of packed in oil fish and let it drain
    over the kitty kibble. The cats loved it.

    Kibble disappeared rather fast when topped with fish oil. (G)

    You betchum, Red Ryder (and if you remember that comix strip you're
    older than I thought.

    I've seen references to it but never saw the strip, itself.

    Red Ryder ran in newspapers through 1965. And there were comix books as
    well as the Red Ryder BB gun made by Daisy (I had one of those).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Ryder

    8<----- X-OUT ----->B


    I'm not sure that I'm on board with all the "politically correct"
    renaming that has been going on. Especially the military bases. The
    people for whom they were named were leaders who fought for the
    principles in which they believed and were true to their cause ....
    which even if it was wrong, or has fallen out of favour are still core values that soldiers/sailors or wing wipers should practice.

    I know, and I'm hoping that with some of the re-names, that someone in
    the not too distant future will have the sense to change them back to their original names. I know Fort Hood was another of the re-names but
    it will always be Fort Hood to me. Had my first taste of real real (not restaurant or Tex-Mex) Mexican food while we were stationed there--went
    on a mission trip to Eagle Pass, TX, Piedras Negras, Mexico and the
    ladies of the church down there cooked for us one day. Taco Bell has
    never been the same since. (G)

    Taco Bell has nover claimed to be "authentic". Bv)=

    We have a mini-chain here called Taco Gringo which is *much* better
    than Taco Bell.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Tacos al Gringo
    Categories: Beef, Vegetables, Chilies, Breads
    Yield: 8 servings

    2 Onions; chopped
    4 tb Olive oil
    4 cl Garlic; minced
    3 tb Chilli spices mix
    1 lg Tomato; chopped
    3 tb Tomato paste
    Salt & pepper
    1 lb Ground beef or pork
    Tortillas; hard or soft

    MMMMM--------------------GARNISHES-----------------------------------
    Refried beans
    Shredded lettuce
    Sliced or pickled onions
    Sliced tomatoes
    Avocado
    Salsa
    Pickled jalapeno
    Sour cream
    Grated cheese
    Cilantro

    Put a large pan on medium-high heat. Saute onions in oil
    a few minutes until translucent.


    Add garlic, spices, tomato paste, tomatoes, salt and
    pepper. Saute 2 more minutes.

    Add ground meat, cook, and stir well. Simmer on low
    heat 10 minutes and serve.

    RECIPE FROM: https://spicetrekkers.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Mon Jun 26 19:49:09 2023
    Hi Dave,

    F and S, M and N are common "mishearings"; we've had I don't know how
    many times people have mixed up them up, especially the former. When

    Those as well.

    I'd be rich if I had a nickel for each time I've heard it misprnounced
    or seen it missplelled. Steve would be even richer. (G)


    Steve was in the Army and I'd have to make medical appointments on the phone, it was so much easier to use the phonetic spelling of our last name. At least I knew people on the other end would know it that way!
    (G) Our girls fussed at me but I think they eventually saw the wisdom
    of my doing so--and still do so from time to time.

    spell things using my own "made up on the fly" phonetic alphabet. A
    may be DD> "Adam", "Alpha", or "AutoZone" and so on. As long as
    there is no doubt as to which letter I mean. It helps to prevent
    misteaks. Bv)=

    If you live near a military installation, probably a lot of people
    would know the NATO alphabet. I didn't set out to intentionally learn
    it; just sort of picked it up thru hearing it enough times. (G)

    name. She went on to have a litter at the start of the Apollo
    11 moon shot so for RH> designators we used Neil, Buzz, Michael
    and Diana (Roman goddess of the RH> moon).

    Darwin was right, you know.

    They were all good cats--hired for the mousekeeping.

    So, three tom cats and a pussycat?

    IIRC, it was 2 of each but given the events of the week, that seemed to
    be an appropriate designator. My mom was in summer school and since that
    Monday was a national holiday, Dad decided we'd go out to see her,
    leaving mom cat & 3 kittens at the local vet's office. Came back home to
    4 kittens.


    When I was running the satellite shop we had a cat that one of the
    techs brought from an installation. She was a very friendly kitten,
    just old enough to be weaned. She'd catch a mouse and play with it
    until itdied. Probably from sheer exhaustion. Mom cat was a barn
    cat - but apparently had not had time to teach her daughter how to
    hunt. So, in an effort to show Callie that mice were "food" I took
    one of her victims and placed it on top of her bowl of kibble. She
    batted the dead mouse out of the way and went to crunching her
    Friskies. Bv)=

    I don't know if Jenny-cat ever caught a mouse--she was abused as a
    kitten and put into a shelter, then adopted out from there. I think her abuser must have been a man because she was a lot more skittish around them, than women, tho she was quite skittish around most of them also. With me, she was a lap cat.

    But she did keep the mouse population at a minimum.

    Doing what she was paid to do. Maybe something about the taste
    of dead mouse was a turn off.

    I think she just didn't recognize it as food.

    Could be, if her mom cat hadn't taught her before they were separated.


    gravy from DD> the spaghetti. She licked up all of the sauce and
    left the meat. Pretty odd behaviour for a cat.

    Quite so. We had a kitten and Sam who were both popcorn lovers.

    Spot was the first (and only) cat I ever saw who would leave meat
    in her bowl.

    Jenny-cat left lamb and rice in her dish--she actually pushed the dish away and refused to eat it. Vet had perscribed it as we were trying to figure out some health issues so she said to put her back on what she
    was used to eating.

    Never try to out-stubborn a cat.

    For sure!

    I used to half-open the cans of packed in oil fish and let it drain
    over the kitty kibble. The cats loved it.

    Kibble disappeared rather fast when topped with fish oil. (G)

    You betchum, Red Ryder (and if you remember that comix strip you're
    older than I thought.

    I've seen references to it but never saw the strip, itself.

    Red Ryder ran in newspapers through 1965. And there were comix books
    as well as the Red Ryder BB gun made by Daisy (I had one of those).

    We were never allowed comic books, RR wasn't in our newspapers either.
    Main reference I've had with him is from the movie "A Christmas Story"
    where the main character keeps wishing for the BB gun for Christmas &
    everybody keeps telling him "You'll shoot your eye out". (G)


    I'm not sure that I'm on board with all the "politically correct"
    renaming that has been going on. Especially the military bases. The
    people for whom they were named were leaders who fought for the
    principles in which they believed and were true to their cause ....
    which even if it was wrong, or has fallen out of favour are still core values that soldiers/sailors or wing wipers should practice.

    I know, and I'm hoping that with some of the re-names, that someone in
    the not too distant future will have the sense to change them back to their original names. I know Fort Hood was another of the re-names but
    it will always be Fort Hood to me. Had my first taste of real real (not restaurant or Tex-Mex) Mexican food while we were stationed there--went
    on a mission trip to Eagle Pass, TX, Piedras Negras, Mexico and the
    ladies of the church down there cooked for us one day. Taco Bell has
    never been the same since. (G)

    Taco Bell has nover claimed to be "authentic". Bv)=

    No, but they're as close to Mexican as a lot of people have come in
    their lifetimes.


    We have a mini-chain here called Taco Gringo which is *much* better
    than Taco Bell.

    Del Taco is popular in the western states; we've been there a time or
    two. They offer fries with everything, somehow seems rather incongruous.
    Also been to Taco John's and other Tex-Mex type places in our travels.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:261/38 to Ruth Haffly on Wed Jun 28 06:44:24 2023
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I don't know if Jenny-cat ever caught a mouse--she was abused as a
    kitten and put into a shelter, then adopted out from there. I think her abuser must have been a man because she was a lot more skittish around them, than women, tho she was quite skittish around most of them also. With me, she was a lap cat.

    But she did keep the mouse population at a minimum.

    Doing what she was paid to do. Maybe something about the taste
    of dead mouse was a turn off.

    I think she just didn't recognize it as food.

    Could be, if her mom cat hadn't taught her before they were separated.

    8<----- CLIP ----->8

    I used to half-open the cans of packed in oil fish and let it drain
    over the kitty kibble. The cats loved it.

    Kibble disappeared rather fast when topped with fish oil. (G)

    You betchum, Red Ryder (and if you remember that comix strip you're
    older than I thought.

    I've seen references to it but never saw the strip, itself.

    Red Ryder ran in newspapers through 1965. And there were comix books
    as well as the Red Ryder BB gun made by Daisy (I had one of those).

    We were never allowed comic books, RR wasn't in our newspapers either. Main reference I've had with him is from the movie "A Christmas Story" where the main character keeps wishing for the BB gun for Christmas & everybody keeps telling him "You'll shoot your eye out". (G)

    My grandmother's favourite (one of them) aphorism was "You'll put someone's eye out." One of her other favourites was "You'll catch your death of (insert pejorative)"

    I'm not sure that I'm on board with all the "politically correct"
    renaming that has been going on. Especially the military bases. The
    people for whom they were named were leaders who fought for the
    principles in which they believed and were true to their cause ....
    which even if it was wrong, or has fallen out of favour are still core values that soldiers/sailors or wing wipers should practice.

    I know, and I'm hoping that with some of the re-names, that someone in
    the not too distant future will have the sense to change them back to their original names. I know Fort Hood was another of the re-names but
    it will always be Fort Hood to me. Had my first taste of real real (not restaurant or Tex-Mex) Mexican food while we were stationed there--went
    on a mission trip to Eagle Pass, TX, Piedras Negras, Mexico and the
    ladies of the church down there cooked for us one day. Taco Bell has
    never been the same since. (G)

    Taco Bell has nover claimed to be "authentic". Bv)=

    No, but they're as close to Mexican as a lot of people have come in
    their lifetimes.

    These days there are authentic Mexican restaurants, run by Mexican and serving the common to all Tex-Mex or Cal-Mex places as well as the food of the region where they grew up. They are much better than the fats food places.

    We have a mini-chain here called Taco Gringo which is *much* better
    than Taco Bell.

    Del Taco is popular in the western states; we've been there a time or
    two. They offer fries with everything, somehow seems rather
    incongruous. Also been to Taco John's and other Tex-Mex type places in
    our travels.

    When I lived in Southern Califunky we had Del Taco, Taco Tico and Tacl Bell for fats Cal-Mex food. Del Taco was he best of those but at that time (1960s) didn't offer fries. But we also had within a few blocks of my apartment a selection of *authentic* Mexican venues which I preferred.

    We also had an authentic Chinese place called House of Yee where I first experienced *real* Chinese food. The owner and staff were Cantonese so that's what thet served. Didn't take me long to figure out the Chun King chop suey was *NOT* authentic.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Chipotle Pork Carnitas
    Categories: Pork, Herbs
    Yield: 12 servings

    4 lb Pork roast
    2 tb Sunflower oil
    1 ts Salt
    1 c Water
    1 ts Dried thyme
    2 ts Juniper berries
    1/2 ts Ground black pepper
    2 (or 3) bay leaves

    Set oven @ 300+|F/150+|C.

    Over medium heat add sunflower oil to a dutch oven.
    Season roast with salt. When the oil is hot saute roast
    on all sides for about 3 minutes on each side.

    This will brown the roast a bit. Add water, bay leaves,
    thyme, juniper berries, and ground black pepper to the
    Dutch Oven.

    Place lid on the pan and cook for 3 to 4 hours in the
    oven. Turn roast over in the pot every hour or so.
    Turning the roast will ensure the flavors go through the
    roast.

    Remove roast from oven. Allow resting for about 20
    minutes. Then pull the meat apart (shred) with two
    folks.

    SLOW COOKER DIRECTIONS: Add sunflower oil to a large
    skillet or Dutch oven over medium heat. Season roast
    with salt. When the oil is hot saute roast on all sides
    for about 3 minutes on each side.

    Place meat into a slow cooker. Add water, bay leaves,
    thyme, juniper berries, and ground black pepper to the
    slow cooker.

    Place lid on the pan and cook for 3 to 4 hours on medium
    heat. Turn roast over in the slow cooker every hour or
    so. Turning the roast will ensure the flavors go through
    the roast.

    NOTES: I do not recommend using a pressure cooker for
    this recipe, the slow roasting gives the meat a better
    flavor.

    Juniper berries may be omitted, but the flavor wonCÇÖt be
    quite the same.

    Author: Stephanie Manley

    RECIPE FROM: https://copykat.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Wed Jun 28 15:32:50 2023
    Hi Dave,

    I used to half-open the cans of packed in oil fish and let it drain
    over the kitty kibble. The cats loved it.

    Kibble disappeared rather fast when topped with fish oil. (G)

    You betchum, Red Ryder (and if you remember that comix strip you're
    older than I thought.

    I've seen references to it but never saw the strip, itself.

    Red Ryder ran in newspapers through 1965. And there were comix books
    as well as the Red Ryder BB gun made by Daisy (I had one of those).

    We were never allowed comic books, RR wasn't in our newspapers either. Main reference I've had with him is from the movie "A Christmas Story" where the main character keeps wishing for the BB gun for Christmas & everybody keeps telling him "You'll shoot your eye out". (G)

    My grandmother's favourite (one of them) aphorism was "You'll put someone's eye out." One of her other favourites was "You'll catch your death of (insert pejorative)"

    I can't remember any of my grandmother's sayings like that. Probably
    because we only saw her sporadically during any year, living a good
    distance away. That was my mom's mother; dad's mother passed away before
    my folks got married.

    I'm not sure that I'm on board with all the "politically correct"
    renaming that has been going on. Especially the military bases. The
    people for whom they were named were leaders who fought for the DD>
    principles in which they believed and were true to their cause .... DD>
    which even if it was wrong, or has fallen out of favour are still core
    values that soldiers/sailors or wing wipers should practice.

    I know, and I'm hoping that with some of the re-names, that someone in
    the not too distant future will have the sense to change them back to their original names. I know Fort Hood was another of the re-names but
    it will always be Fort Hood to me. Had my first taste of real real (not restaurant or Tex-Mex) Mexican food while we were stationed there--went
    on a mission trip to Eagle Pass, TX, Piedras Negras, Mexico and the
    ladies of the church down there cooked for us one day. Taco Bell has
    never been the same since. (G)

    Taco Bell has nover claimed to be "authentic". Bv)=

    No, but they're as close to Mexican as a lot of people have come in
    their lifetimes.

    These days there are authentic Mexican restaurants, run by Mexican and serving the common to all Tex-Mex or Cal-Mex places as well as the
    food of the region where they grew up. They are much better than the
    fats food places.

    We have a mini-chain here called Taco Gringo which is *much* better
    than Taco Bell.

    Del Taco is popular in the western states; we've been there a time or
    two. They offer fries with everything, somehow seems rather
    incongruous. Also been to Taco John's and other Tex-Mex type places in
    our travels.

    When I lived in Southern Califunky we had Del Taco, Taco Tico and Tacl Bell for fats Cal-Mex food. Del Taco was he best of those but at that time (1960s) didn't offer fries. But we also had within a few blocks
    of my apartment a selection of *authentic* Mexican venues which I preferred.

    I would too, and enjoy the Mexican places around here. The 2 we go to
    most often have different styles but both are good.

    We also had an authentic Chinese place called House of Yee where I
    first experienced *real* Chinese food. The owner and staff were DD>
    Cantonese so that's what thet served. Didn't take me long to figure DD>
    out the Chun King chop suey was *NOT* authentic.

    We used to call it "cheap Chinese"--filled the belly but a far cry from authentic. My mom made a version of chop suey from time to time if we
    had leftover pork roast but I could probably count on one hand the
    number of times she did it. Dad did not like rice.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Sun Jul 2 06:11:00 2023
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Taco Bell has nover claimed to be "authentic". Bv)=

    No, but they're as close to Mexican as a lot of people have come in
    their lifetimes.

    These days there are authentic Mexican restaurants, run by Mexican and serving the common to all Tex-Mex or Cal-Mex places as well as the
    food of the region where they grew up. They are much better than the
    fats food places.

    We have a mini-chain here called Taco Gringo which is *much* better
    than Taco Bell.

    Del Taco is popular in the western states; we've been there a time or
    two. They offer fries with everything, somehow seems rather
    incongruous. Also been to Taco John's and other Tex-Mex type places in
    our travels.

    When I lived in Southern Califunky we had Del Taco, Taco Tico and Tacl Bell for fats Cal-Mex food. Del Taco was he best of those but at that time (1960s) didn't offer fries. But we also had within a few blocks
    of my apartment a selection of *authentic* Mexican venues which I preferred.

    I would too, and enjoy the Mexican places around here. The 2 we go to
    most often have different styles but both are good.

    What I find weird is the lack of pork dishes at most Mexican venuses,
    even the authentic ones. Moroleon Tropical and El Dorado are the only exceptions I have found. Moroleon is southern Mexican/Central American
    cuisine and El Dorado (a newcomer) is Mexico City style. Moroleon also
    has a Taqueria with dynamite carnitas tacos and burritos.

    We also had an authentic Chinese place called House of Yee where I
    first experienced *real* Chinese food. The owner and staff were
    Cantonese so that's what thet served. Didn't take me long to figure
    out the Chun King chop suey was *NOT* authentic.

    We used to call it "cheap Chinese"--filled the belly but a far cry from authentic. My mom made a version of chop suey from time to time if we
    had leftover pork roast but I could probably count on one hand the
    number of times she did it. Dad did not like rice.

    Was he in the milly-terry stationed where rice was a staple? My younger brother, Phil, did a tour in the Vietnamese delta region and cannot do
    rice nor orzo and rosmarina pasta (because they resemble rice, I imagine)

    I've introduced him to various noodle dishes like pad thai and Bun Thit
    Nuong (Vietnamese Grilled Pork & Rice Noodles) or Shrimp Noodle Bowls.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Shrimp Noodle Bowls
    Categories: Seafood, Pasta,
    Yield: 4 servings

    1/3 c Sweet chile sauce (Mae Ploy)
    1/4 c Fresh lime juice; (from 2
    - limes)
    1 tb Rice vinegar
    2 ts Fish sauce
    8 oz Uncooked rice vermicelli
    - noodles
    1 lb Large (U20) peeled, deveined
    - raw shrimp, tails opt.
    1/4 c Cornstarch
    1 tb Light brown sugar
    1 ts Black pepper
    3/4 ts Kosher salt
    +=OR=+
    1/2 ts Table salt
    3 tb Neutral oil

    mmmmm-------------------------TOPPINGS-------------------------------
    Matchstick carrots
    Thin sliced English cucumber
    Thin sliced romaine lettuce
    - hearts
    Chopped fresh cilantro
    Chopped fresh mint
    Chopped roasted peanuts

    Stir together 1/2 cup water, chili sauce, lime juice,
    vinegar, and fish sauce in a medium bowl. Set aside.

    Cook rice noodles according to package directions.
    Drain, rinse with cold water, and set aside.

    Pat shrimp very dry with paper towels. Place cornstarch,
    brown sugar, pepper, and salt in a large ziplock plastic
    bag. Seal and shake to combine. Add shrimp; seal and
    gently shake to coat.

    Heat a wok or large cast-iron skillet over high until
    very hot. Add 1 1/2 tablespoons oil; swirl to coat wok.
    Add half of shrimp to hot oil. Cook, separating shrimp
    with tongs to ensure even browning and turning once,
    until shrimp are crisp, lightly browned, and cooked
    through, 3 to 4 minutes. Remove shrimp to a plate lined
    with paper towels. Repeat procedure with remaining oil
    and shrimp.

    Divide noodles and shrimp among bowls. Add desired
    toppings; drizzle evenly with chilE sauce mixture.

    By Karen Schroeder-Rankin

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.southernliving.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sun Jul 2 12:32:51 2023
    Hi Dave,

    time (1960s) didn't offer fries. But we also had within a few blocks
    of my apartment a selection of *authentic* Mexican venues which I preferred.

    I would too, and enjoy the Mexican places around here. The 2 we go to
    most often have different styles but both are good.

    What I find weird is the lack of pork dishes at most Mexican venuses,
    even the authentic ones. Moroleon Tropical and El Dorado are the only exceptions I have found. Moroleon is southern Mexican/Central American cuisine and El Dorado (a newcomer) is Mexico City style. Moroleon also
    has a Taqueria with dynamite carnitas tacos and burritos.

    Guess they just aren't into pork as much as their northern neighbors.
    I've seen it on the menu but not nearly as much as beef or chicken.

    We also had an authentic Chinese place called House of Yee where I
    first experienced *real* Chinese food. The owner and staff were
    Cantonese so that's what thet served. Didn't take me long to figure
    out the Chun King chop suey was *NOT* authentic.

    We used to call it "cheap Chinese"--filled the belly but a far cry from authentic. My mom made a version of chop suey from time to time if we
    had leftover pork roast but I could probably count on one hand the
    number of times she did it. Dad did not like rice.

    Was he in the milly-terry stationed where rice was a staple? My
    younger brother, Phil, did a tour in the Vietnamese delta region and cannot do
    rice nor orzo and rosmarina pasta (because they resemble rice, I
    imagine)

    Dad was WWII, Navy, Pacific theater. I suspect his dislike of rice is
    from being raised on meat and potatoes; I'd wager a guess that his mom
    never cooked rice. My gradfather was a lumberyard laborer (Dad worked
    the yard too, in summers, until they found out he had had 2 years of
    high school, then they put him in the office. His mom wanted him to drop
    out of school at that point because he could earn $.15 an hour instead
    of the $.10 of a yard worker--he went back to school and became the
    first of his family to graduate from high school.) so he wanted the
    "fill" that potatoes gave. I could get Dad to eat alternatives to
    potatoes when he visited us but at home, Mom cooked the way her MIL did.

    I've introduced him to various noodle dishes like pad thai and Bun
    Thit Nuong (Vietnamese Grilled Pork & Rice Noodles) or Shrimp
    Noodle DD> Bowls.

    Those would have never crossed his lips. We're visiting Steve's family
    right now, last night Mom treated everyone to dinner at an Italian
    place. It was a last minute sub because the place we'd had reservations
    for, called an hour before and said they were not going to be open.
    Anyway, different ones tried to get hold of Steve's older sister and
    husband to let them know of the change--finally did, just as we got to
    the restaurant. Somebody said "just order chicken parm for them, that's
    all they ever order when eating out at an Italian place. We waited a
    bit, got appetisers and when they (J&P) came in, ordered entrees. They
    ordered chicken parm but one BIL talked her into getting gnocci instead
    of spaghetti--she liked it! I had chicken saltombucca, Steve had seafood
    fra diavolo, both brought half home. Had split calamari (really
    good),salad and bread--usual) before getting the entrees. We'll probably
    try to get back there again, on future trips to the area.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Tue Jul 4 05:56:06 2023
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    What I find weird is the lack of pork dishes at most Mexican venuses,
    even the authentic ones. Moroleon Tropical and El Dorado are the only exceptions I have found. Moroleon is southern Mexican/Central American cuisine and El Dorado (a newcomer) is Mexico City style. Moroleon also
    has a Taqueria with dynamite carnitas tacos and burritos.

    Guess they just aren't into pork as much as their northern neighbors.
    I've seen it on the menu but not nearly as much as beef or chicken.

    In daily life there are lots of Latino recipes that use pig meat. Just
    not so much at their restaurants in the USA it seems.

    8<----- SNIP ----->8

    I've introduced him to various noodle dishes like pad thai and Bun
    Thit Nuong (Vietnamese Grilled Pork & Rice Noodles) or Shrimp
    Noodle Bowls.

    Those would have never crossed his lips. We're visiting Steve's family right now, last night Mom treated everyone to dinner at an Italian
    place. It was a last minute sub because the place we'd had reservations for, called an hour before and said they were not going to be open.

    At least they letcha know rather than having you show up hungery and find
    that they had "gone walkabout" (as the Australians say).

    Anyway, different ones tried to get hold of Steve's older sister and husband to let them know of the change--finally did, just as we got to
    the restaurant. Somebody said "just order chicken parm for them, that's all they ever order when eating out at an Italian place. We waited a
    bit, got appetisers and when they (J&P) came in, ordered entrees. They ordered chicken parm but one BIL talked her into getting gnocci instead
    of spaghetti--she liked it! I had chicken saltombucca, Steve had
    seafood fra diavolo, both brought half home. Had split calamari (really good),salad and bread--usual) before getting the entrees. We'll
    probably try to get back there again, on future trips to the area.

    I have only one "Italian" place locally where I've seen gnocci offered.
    Papa Frank's is owned by the same family who run the eminomious "Saputo's"
    in down town Springfield. The problem there is that one never knows with
    the downtown venue - one time everything will be magnifico. Then the next
    go will be cattivo. Papa Franks is consistently meraviglioso.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Pork Tinga
    Categories: Pork, Potatoes, Herbs, Chilies, Vegetables
    Yield: 4 servings

    1 1/4 lb Trimmed boneless pork
    - shoulder; in 1 1/2" cubes
    1/4 ts Dried marjoram
    1/4 ts Dried thyme
    3 Bay leaves
    3/4 lb Eed potatoes; in 1/2" dice
    2 tb Vegetable oil
    1/4 lb Fresh chorizo
    1 md Onion; fine chopped
    1 cl Garlicm minced
    28 oz Can peeled Italian tomatoes;
    - drained and chopped
    2 Chipotle chilies in adobo;
    - seeded, minced
    +=PLUS=+
    4 ts Adobo sauce from the can
    Salt & sugar; for seasoning

    In a large saucepan, simmer the pork, marjoram, thyme
    and bay leaves in 4 cups of salted water, partially
    covered, until the meat is tender, 45 minutes. Using a
    slotted spoon, transfer the pork to a plate; let cool
    slightly, then tear it into smaller pieces. Skim the fat
    from the pork broth; reserve 1 1/2 cups.

    In a large saucepan of boiling salted water, cook the
    potatoes until just tender, about 8 minutes. Drain well.

    In a medium, deep skillet, heat the oil. Add the chorizo
    and stir over moderately low heat, breaking it up, until
    cooked through, 10 minutes; transfer to a plate. Add the
    pork and onion to the skillet and cook over moderate
    heat, stirring, until well-browned, 10 minutes. Add the
    garlic and cook for 1 minute. Stir in the tomatoes and
    chorizo and cook for 5 minutes. Add the potatoes,
    chipotle, adobo sauce and the 1 1/2 cups of pork broth;
    simmer for 10 minutes. Season with salt and a pinch of
    sugar and serve.

    SERVE WITH: Flour tortillas, sliced avocado, red onion
    and queso fresco.

    By Rick Bayless

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.foodandwine.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Tue Jul 4 19:00:27 2023
    Hi Dave,


    Guess they just aren't into pork as much as their northern neighbors.
    I've seen it on the menu but not nearly as much as beef or chicken.

    In daily life there are lots of Latino recipes that use pig meat. Just
    not so much at their restaurants in the USA it seems.

    Maybe they think we only like it as ham, bacon or pork chops.

    8<----- SNIP ----->8

    I've introduced him to various noodle dishes like pad thai and Bun
    Thit Nuong (Vietnamese Grilled Pork & Rice Noodles) or Shrimp
    Noodle Bowls.

    Those would have never crossed his lips. We're visiting Steve's family right now, last night Mom treated everyone to dinner at an Italian
    place. It was a last minute sub because the place we'd had reservations for, called an hour before and said they were not going to be open.

    At least they letcha know rather than having you show up hungery and
    find that they had "gone walkabout" (as the Australians say).

    Yes, but it would have been nice to have gotten notice earlier in the
    day.

    Anyway, different ones tried to get hold of Steve's older sister
    and RH> husband to let them know of the change--finally did, just as we
    again, on future trips to the area.

    I have only one "Italian" place locally where I've seen gnocci
    offered. Papa Frank's is owned by the same family who run the
    eminomious "Saputo's" in down town Springfield. The problem there is
    that one never knows with the downtown venue - one time everything
    will be magnifico. Then the next go will be cattivo. Papa Franks is consistently meraviglioso.

    Our favorite Italian place here in town sold out to one of the employees
    a while back. Owner was from the same region of Italy as Steve's mom's
    family so it was "home cooking" for us. We went there a good number of
    times pre covid, once during covid trued their take out pizza & were
    less than impressed. Have only been back once since the new ownership,
    need to go back and see if the chicken cacciatori (our favorite) is
    still as good. Original owner had opened up another restaurant in a
    nearby town; that one was taking all his time so he sold out &
    supposedly sold his recipies to the new owner.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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