Quoting Maurice Kinal to Nancy Backus on 24-Apr-2020 03:46 <=-

almond flour is the one I've seen the most often of the nut flours...

I grew up on the flatlands where wheat is king as far as flour is concerned. If I were a baker I'd probably try other sources when they present themselves but I am a lousy baker (to say the least) so I'll
have to let this particular topic slide.

I've done a fair bit of baking, not as much lately, though... But when I
was baking, I was using grain flours, mostly wheat and rye... I've made
oatmeal bread, but that's with rolled oats and wheat flour.... :)

It is interesting though and I did check into where I could potentially find a pair of chestnut bushes. There are native species to be had but are not readily found in garden variety greenhouses ... not that I've seriously checked beyond a casual online search.

Sounds like it was an interesting diversion... I've no desire to grow my
own, either... ;)

Supposedly yeast is available through Amazon, I've been told....

It doesn't surprise me.

Nor did it surprise me... Amazon seems to be a bit like Alice's
Restaurant.... <G>

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Hallo Nancy!

I've done a fair bit of baking

I do all the cooking and have for many, many, many decades now but every attempt at baking on my part has been a dismal failure.

Sounds like it was an interesting diversion

Yes it was (is?). There is a farm on the Trans Canada highway between Ladysmith and Duncan that has hazelnut trees. They are around 15-20 feet tall an I've never noticed if they are producing any nuts but given their size I assume they are. The wild ones I seen in my youth, usually when I went mushroom picking, were small bushes no more than 10 feet at best. Those were all on the flatlands and could be found in depressions where there was more moisture and less plowing happening farm-wise. They were never in season whenever I encountered them so I never tried them. I am regretting that now.

Amazon seems to be a bit like Alice's Restaurant

There is something I haven't thought of in around 50 years. I wonder how she is doing these days.

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Hallo Nancy!

I've not done all that well at cakes or pies... but cookies and
bread seemed to go well enough for me... :)

As a teenager, I worked at a bakery but NEVER actually baked anything there. I
just did odd jobs such as slicing bread, cleaning, etc.

Have you had the commercially grown hazelnuts...?

Yes. Usually still in their shells but probably have had them in products as well. I believe the main ingredient of nutella is hazelnuts and according to https://minimalistbaker.com, "Here's the deal with hazelnuts. They're extremely
healthy for you."

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Re: except for alice
By: Maurice Kinal to Nancy Backus on Tue May 05 2020 17:49:18

Yes. Usually still in their shells but probably have had them in
products as well. I believe the main ingredient of nutella is
hazelnuts and according to https://minimalistbaker.com, "Here's
the deal with hazelnuts. They're extremely healthy for you."

IIRC, nutella is hazel nut butter... like peanut butter... might have chocolate
in it, too... been years since i had any...


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Hallo mark!

IIRC, nutella is hazel nut butter... like peanut butter... might
have chocolate in it, too...

I didn't notice any chocolate in the recipe I looked at but instead unsweetened
cocoa powder which is not quite chocolate ... if I am not mistaken. Perhaps chocolate might be a good (better?) substitute. I'd probably give it a try. :-)

Hold on ... I now see a recipe at https://www.splendidtable.org for homemade nutella that calls for 12 ounces milk chocolate, chopped.

been years since i had any...

I think I had it once when I was a young lad way back when. If I am not mistaken we spread it on toast as a butter substitute but then switched back to
regular butter since butter *is* better ... although vegans will probably disagree with me. Stinkin' vegans.

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Quoting Maurice Kinal to Nancy Backus on 05-May-2020 17:49 <=-

I've not done all that well at cakes or pies... but cookies and
bread seemed to go well enough for me... :)

As a teenager, I worked at a bakery but NEVER actually baked anything there. I just did odd jobs such as slicing bread, cleaning, etc.

Never worked at a bakery, but learned to bake cookies when I was growing
up, especially oatmeal cookies with raisins (or at Christmas time, with
the candied fruits)... and learned to bake bread shortly after
graduating from college... :)

Have you had the commercially grown hazelnuts...?

Yes. Usually still in their shells but probably have had them in
products as well. I believe the main ingredient of nutella is
hazelnuts and according to https://minimalistbaker.com, "Here's the
deal with hazelnuts. They're extremely healthy for you."

Nutella is sweetened hazelnut butter and chocolate... And pretty much
all nuts are extremely healthy... various supply various important
nutrients... ;)

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Quoting mark lewis to Maurice Kinal on 05-May-2020 14:44 <=-

Re: except for alice
By: Maurice Kinal to Nancy Backus on Tue May 05 2020 17:49:18

Yes. Usually still in their shells but probably have had them in
products as well. I believe the main ingredient of nutella is
hazelnuts and according to https://minimalistbaker.com, "Here's
the deal with hazelnuts. They're extremely healthy for you."

IIRC, nutella is hazel nut butter... like peanut butter... might have chocolate in it, too... been years since i had any...

Yes, and yes, definitely has chocolate/cocoa in it... ;) I used to
snack on it all the time, but haven't for years, either... :)

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Hallo Nancy!

And pretty much all nuts are extremely healthy

I've heard that. Also that they've been around since the Cretaceous along with
fruits and flowering plants. Nuts have had well over 65 million years to get their act together.

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Quoting Maurice Kinal to Nancy Backus on 01-May-2020 18:35 <=-

I've done a fair bit of baking

I do all the cooking and have for many, many, many decades now but
every attempt at baking on my part has been a dismal failure.

I've not done all that well at cakes or pies... but cookies and bread
seemed to go well enough for me... :)

Sounds like it was an interesting diversion

Yes it was (is?). There is a farm on the Trans Canada highway between Ladysmith and Duncan that has hazelnut trees. They are around 15-20
feet tall and I've never noticed if they are producing any nuts but
given their size I assume they are. The wild ones I seen in my youth, usually when I went mushroom picking, were small bushes no more than
10 feet at best. Those were all on the flatlands and could be found
in depressions where there was more moisture and less plowing
happening farm-wise. They were never in season whenever I encountered them so I never tried them. I am regretting that now.

Can't do everything... Have you had the commercially grown hazelnuts...?

Amazon seems to be a bit like Alice's Restaurant

There is something I haven't thought of in around 50 years. I wonder
how she is doing these days.

Probably passed on, like Woody and Arlo.... But lives on in memory and
song... ;)

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Quoting Maurice Kinal to Nancy Backus on 08-May-2020 07:23 <=-

And pretty much all nuts are extremely healthy

I've heard that. Also that they've been around since the Cretaceous
along with fruits and flowering plants. Nuts have had well over 65 million years to get their act together.

After all, they are the seed of fruits... :) They don't supply all the nutrients one needs, though... :)

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Hallo Nancy!

Nuts have had well over 65 million years to get their act
together.

After all, they are the seed of fruits... :) They don't supply
all the nutrients one needs, though... :)

So what have they been doing for the last +65 million years? Exactly how long do you think it would take for something to evolve into the perfect food?

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Quoting Maurice Kinal to Nancy Backus on 13-May-2020 14:16 <=-

Nuts have had well over 65 million years to get their act
together.

After all, they are the seed of fruits... :) They don't supply
all the nutrients one needs, though... :)

So what have they been doing for the last +65 million years? Exactly
how long do you think it would take for something to evolve into the perfect food?

If they were evolving, perhaps they had other objectives in mind besides becoming perfect food for humans... :)

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Hallo Nancy!

If they were evolving, perhaps they had other objectives in mind
besides becoming perfect food for humans... :)

If true then they did a lousy job of it considering their popularity as food for humans despite them not being perfect. The hazelnut trees planted on the farm along the Trans Canada look very content in their evenly spaced rows so perhaps that became their objective once they were being cared for.

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Quoting Maurice Kinal to Nancy Backus on 19-May-2020 03:35 <=-

If they were evolving, perhaps they had other objectives in mind
besides becoming perfect food for humans... :)

If true then they did a lousy job of it considering their popularity
as food for humans despite them not being perfect. The hazelnut trees planted on the farm along the Trans Canada look very content in their evenly spaced rows so perhaps that became their objective once they
were being cared for.

Popularity as a food does tend to make it more likely to be tended
to.... ;)

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Hallo Nancy!

Popularity as a food does tend to make it more likely to be
tended to....

I am sure there is a correlation. Also prices and cost of production etc. I've heard tales from California about destroying almond trees simply because of the cost of irregation due to water shortages, and almonds are very popular in the scheme of all things nuttie.

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Quoting Maurice Kinal to Nancy Backus on 27-May-2020 15:26 <=-

Popularity as a food does tend to make it more likely to be
tended to....

I am sure there is a correlation. Also prices and cost of production
etc. I've heard tales from California about destroying almond trees
simply because of the cost of irregation due to water shortages, and almonds are very popular in the scheme of all things nuttie.

Sometimes there are some hard choices to make....

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Hallo Nancy!

Sometimes there are some hard choices to make....

Yes indeed.

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