One thousand plus deaths per day. more than 160,000 deaths overall. >DS>When will it end?
Trying to make stuff sound like it's Trump's fault - when will that end?
One thousand plus deaths per day. more than 160,000 deaths overall. >DS>When will it end?
Trying to make stuff sound like it's Trump's fault - when will that end?
At noon, on January 20, 2021.
One thousand plus deaths per day. more than 160,000 deaths
overall. When will it end?
Trying to make stuff sound like it's Trump's fault - when will that
end?
The latest quote of from Trump shows how he is managing the Covid pandemic. I.e. ignore it and expect it to go away on its own -- or
let the states handle it.
Is it any coincidence that most of the states that are running off the chart with number of infections and hospitalizations and deaths are in states with Republican governers who are following Trump's lead in
what to do.
One thousand plus deaths per day. more than 160,000 deaths overall.
When will it end?
The number of people who are getting sick, and dying, are still far
too high. Not just in New York, but everywhere.
Thanks to Trump's own incompetence, we do not have enough PPE gear
or ventilators and pharmaceuticals that are desperately needed.
The sound of democracy is loud. And can be very annoying. Had it
not been for patriots being so loud and annoying, we never would have
had a country. That is why we need more patriots to join the cause.
It is the only way to save our democracy, and our country.
- Jim JordonHe is no patriot.
I haven't read anyone blame Trump for the caronavirus. I have read many say
considered the problem to only be hurting blue states so he left it for "th
are many new cases and deaths on a daily basis and now he wants schools ope back up in the middle of all that - when/where will that end?
One thousand plus deaths per day. more than 160,000 deaths overall. >LL>>DS>When will it end?
Trying to make stuff sound like it's Trump's fault - when will that end? >LL> LL>At noon, on January 20, 2021.
I think you're right!
That's when my people will be rejoicing and yours will be like "Well, I
can't imagine spending another 4 years being bitter!"
Liberals will embrace Trump culture in 2021, and they will learn to love it.
You can do it, Lee.
Look at me: I'm as conservative as can be and I live under the Cuomo
monarchy.
I eat liberal garbage for breakfast,
and sure, I have an extremely overkill home security system to give me peace
of mind, but it's all a mindgame - and I feel like I'm on top.
The number of people who are getting sick, and dying, are still far
too high. Not just in New York, but everywhere.
The U.S. has tested over 60 MILLION Americans, far more than any other
country in the world.
Thanks to Trump's own incompetence, we do not have enough PPE gear
or ventilators and pharmaceuticals that are desperately needed.
You might want to tune in, when the President provides detailed information >about the numbers of these supplies that we have here within the U.S. You
might even learn something, but then you might also be in need of other
medication to help your mind cope with the break away from your liberal >ideologies which will be a catastrophic event.
The sound of democracy is loud. And can be very annoying. Had it
not been for patriots being so loud and annoying, we never would have >LL>had a country. That is why we need more patriots to join the cause.
It is the only way to save our democracy, and our country.
If you think for one moment that these people screaming about white >privilege, demanding the de-funding the Police, creating carnage and chaos >nearly everywhere they go, are in anyway equal to the folks of yesteryear
then you're truly delusional. Many of them if not every single one of them; meaning those people from yesteryear would not think twice of assassinating this group of today.
- Jim JordonHe is no patriot.
You're not qualified or authorized to authenticate who Jim Jordon is or what
he stands for because you know nothing; what it means to be a Conservative.
Not to worry. Melania will console him. And then leave with her son
for a better life. Apart from Donald.
Pennsylvania Dutch. Which is why my great-grandfather walked on foot
to Louisiana as soon as his ship from Italy docked in New York. You
see, New Orleans had the largest macaroni factory in the US, and
Hello Greg,
The number of people who are getting sick, and dying, are still far >LL>too high. Not just in New York, but everywhere.
The U.S. has tested over 60 MILLION Americans, far more than any other
country in the world.
The US has one of the worst records in regards to the number of
tests per capita. Barely 60 million tests out of a total population
of 320 million. That is horrible. And the turnaround for results
makes many of those tests meaningless, as so much time has elapsed
making it impossible to do contact tracing on those who have tested positive.
football season begins, the US will jump to #1 - which is now
being held by the UK with 69.63 deaths per 100,000 people.
Trump had several chances to get a better deal, but chose not to.
Now we the taxpayers are stuck with a bill five times higher, and
will not receive much-needed PPE until 2022. That is not due to
"liberal ideologies", but his own bullheadedness and incompetence.
People have a constitutional right to protest. You and others might
not like it, but that is the American way. Best to get used to it.
Say it loud! Say it clear! / Refugees are welcome here!
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Is it any coincidence that most of the states that are running off the chart with number of infections and hospitalizations and deaths are in states with Republican governers who are following Trump's lead in what
to do.
At one time our Northeastern area was very bad and now it is not even close to what it was.
At first we know nothing how to combat the unseen killer.
Through the leadership of President Trump we now have PPE gear
including ventilators and pharmaceuticals which have proven effective
as indicated by Doctors from around the world.
What's More Important?
- Going to school or protesting?
- Church or Protesting?
- A loved one's funeral or Protesting?
The only things Democrats let you do during Covid
is protest riot and attack the Police.
One thousand plus deaths per day. more than 160,000 deaths overall.
When will it end?
How many die each year from the flu?
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One thousand plus deaths per day. more than 160,000 deaths overall.
When will it end?
Trying to make stuff sound like it's Trump's fault - when will that
end?
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However, this part sounds like news with a twist. All I know is New
York. It was the world's epicenter at first, but now officials for the state of New York are claiming a victory with flattening the curve.
This is the most liberal blue state in all of the USA (in my opinion.)
Trump gave state governors autonomy with handling coronavirus. Some
states have done poorly with reopening (Arizona, Florida, Texas) but
the media (and Democrats) prefer to blame Trump instead of blaming Democratic state governors.
How would the USA react if Trump were to deploy our military to
enforce mask wearing? Or if he used the military to enforce social distancing?
Trump is "in favor" of reopening schools, but again, he's not
dictating school openings; he's letting the governors control school reopenings. When those governers do a bad job, fingers will be pointed
at Trump because his voice sounds like Sinatra.
considered the problem to only be hurting blue states so he left
it for "th
However, this part sounds like news with a twist.
All I know is New York. It was the world's epicenter at first, but now officials for the state of New York are claiming a victory with
flattening the curve.
This is the most liberal blue state in all of the USA (in my opinion.)
Trump gave state governors autonomy with handling coronavirus.
Some states have done poorly with reopening (Arizona, Florida, Texas)
but the media (and Democrats) prefer to blame Trump instead of blaming Democratic state governors.
How would the USA react if Trump were to deploy our military to
enforce mask wearing? Or if he used the military to enforce social distancing?
They're just opportunists looking for ways to make gay marriages
gayer, to make abortions more painful, or to make counterfeit money
more legal.
Anyone who stands in the way of liberal policies as much as Trump
does, is in for trouble.
are many new cases and deaths on a daily basis and now he wants
schools ope back up in the middle of all that - when/where will
that end?
Trump is "in favor" of reopening schools, but again, he's not
dictating school openings;
he's letting the governors control school reopenings. When those
governers do a bad job, fingers will be pointed at Trump because his
voice sounds like Sinatra.
recent and current statements have caused many Republican states to
ignore the valid scientific advice to their peril.
True, and the Democratic Governor got it under control.
At first we know nothing how to combat the unseen killer.
Through the leadership of President Trump we now have PPE gear including ventilators and pharmaceuticals which have proven effective as indicated by Doctors from around the world.
Too little, too late. The medical system was and still is under strain for getting sufficient PPE. In many areas the hospitals are strained to over capacity. We do not have any effective treatment pharmaceuticals.
School has been closed there comes a time where you have to go back toWhat's More Important?
- Going to school or protesting?
- Church or Protesting?
- A loved one's funeral or Protesting?
Protesting is a constitutional right. Rioting is a crime. Do not
confuse the two.
Estimates seem to vary between less than 10,000 and 50,000. There is no comparison. A better question would be how many people might not have died if the federal government at least tried to do something about
COVID instead of a policy somewhere between wishing it will soon go away and pushing blame to the states.
Not to worry. Melania will console him. And then leave with her son
for a better life. Apart from Donald.
Why would you wish for a marriage to fail?
It's not good to wish bad things on others. It's good to be optimistic.
Pennsylvania Dutch. Which is why my great-grandfather walked on foot
to Louisiana as soon as his ship from Italy docked in New York. You >LL>see, New Orleans had the largest macaroni factory in the US, and
I don't know what kind of advancements in macaroni we've had over the past
100 years, but NY has the best Chinese food, best Italian subs, spiedies,
and best pizza compared with other states that I've tried.
Watch a New Mexican try to make a pizza.. They put jalapenos in the sauce! I
like jalapenos, but come on! The sauce isn't supposed to burn sphincters,
the wings are!
But if your great-grandfather was a seafood man, then I get it. We have
crawfish here but nobody eats them. I don't have any idea of how to cook, peel, or eat them.
of 320 million. That is horrible. And the turnaround for resultsThe number of people who are getting sick, and dying, are still far >LL>>LL>too high. Not just in New York, but everywhere.
The U.S. has tested over 60 MILLION Americans, far more than any other >LL>>country in the world.
The US has one of the worst records in regards to the number of >LL>tests per capita. Barely 60 million tests out of a total population
makes many of those tests meaningless, as so much time has elapsed >LL>making it impossible to do contact tracing on those who have tested >LL>positive.
Actually it's over 61 Million (& climbing) tests that have been
administered.
football season begins, the US will jump to #1 - which is now
being held by the UK with 69.63 deaths per 100,000 people.
Football may still happen but there will not be any fans in the stands, at
least that is what Met Life Stadium has indicated.
Trump had several chances to get a better deal, but chose not to.
Now we the taxpayers are stuck with a bill five times higher, and
will not receive much-needed PPE until 2022. That is not due to >LL>"liberal ideologies", but his own bullheadedness and incompetence.
It was Trump who had shut down Travel from China into the U.S.
It was Trump who had shut down Travel from Europe into the U.S.
Folks were advising against this action.
(even Biden) but Trump did it anyway.
Are you aware of how many millions lives that action alone saved?
You really stop watching CNN and MSNBC that are not indicating the correct >information and lean way way left. It's Nasty Nancy and Cry'n Chuck who >sticking a monkey wrench eliminating any progress to move forward.
People have a constitutional right to protest. You and others might
not like it, but that is the American way. Best to get used to it.
People have the right to peacefully assemble, doesn't say anything riots, >burning and looting does it now? That is not the new normal, this choas in
the streets will come to an end, one way or the other.
Say it loud! Say it clear! / Refugees are welcome here!
More stain on the American Tax payer, oh what the hell we are filthy rich,
what's a few more?
New York has done great because of the leadership of its Governor. It
made a national unified effort and distribution. He even had FEMA
stealing equipment that states had ordered and paid for.
That would never have been necessary. Instead he should have not told people not to wear masks nor practice social distancing. His constant
Do you think a national plan might be in order in this crisis?
Who sez the two of them even live together? Just because they
remain legally married does not mean they share the same bedroom.
In Hawai'i they put pineapple on hamburgers. In Georgia they put
peaches on SPAM. No. I did that once. My cousin almost killed me.
I survived only because I gave her the rest of my peaches.
Oh, that's easy. Pinch da tails, and suck da heads. That's all
there is to it. So next time you're in Louisiana, look for any of
several Cajun hangouts were crawfish boils are being held.
Many US citizens returning home from Europe (and elsewhere) were
already infected.
here, were not allowed to have a funeral Mass and a Christian
burial. Instead, their bodies were cremated and then sent to
The US put the cremated remains of 250 Mexican nationals on
It was Trump who had shut down Travel from China into the U.S.
Fake news.
It was Trump who had shut down Travel from Europe into the U.S.
Fake news.
early on, the scientists showed a chart that predicted about 60,000
deaths if the appropriate mitigation measures were taken. Those
measures were not only ignored by Trump, he openly spoke against them
and publically encouraged ignoring them.
hospitals were running over capacity. When the mistake was realized,
it was changed to only recovering Covid patients who had tested
No -- they hijacked equipment ordered and paid for the states at
inflated prices. It is not clear what they did with those supplies,
He said that it was not necessary to wear a mask -- and that he would
Much later -- but he still did not do what he said.
It was Trump who had shut down Travel from China into the U.S.
Fake news.
It was Trump who had shut down Travel from Europe into the U.S.Fake news.
You're irrational and delusional
even Dale Shipp knows these to be True Facts
that Trump ordered both these items that your calling Fake News.
Do you think a national plan might be in order in this crisis?
Trump closed international travel, but not for illegals. To do that,
he needs cooperation from Democrats that he already knows he's not getting.
Democrats speak highly of illegal immigrants, but I have yet to hear
them say "Illegal immigrants won't enter the USA if they have the coronavirus."
Our southern border is the biggest joke in the world. Even people from China flock to Mexico when they can't get visas.
So despite their best effort, how can anyone continue to allow undocumented humans and halt a virus at the same time?
You are kind of free & loose with the term illegal. Democrats don't in fact support illegal immigrants although they do support immigration.
I dunno why you bring up the Chinese but I agree you need a secure border. That's a complex issue and I doubt a wall will provide that. Your governmen officials both Democrat and Republican are going to have to put their heads together and come up with ways to do that.
In Canada there is still no travel except for essential travel. When folks travel and return they have to self quarantine for 14 days.
Something like that would be needed for anyone after travel regardless of their citizenship or reasons for travel.
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early on, the scientists showed a chart that predicted about 60,000
deaths if the appropriate mitigation measures were taken. Those
measures were not only ignored by Trump, he openly spoke against them
and publically encouraged ignoring them.
What measures?
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He said that it was not necessary to wear a mask -- and that he would
Is it necessary to wear a mask? Last I heard, FEMA was advising to
wear a mask to prevent the spread to others, but what if you don't have the virus? Then wouldn't you be just hoarding masks that others need?
Much later -- but he still did not do what he said.
If Trump wore a mask while addressing the USA, how would we know it's really him and not the Cobra Commander from GI Joe? If Trump didn't
have the virus, then who was he hurting by not wearing a mask?
Trump is easily recognizable with or without a mask. Who is he hurting
by not wearing a mask? He is hurting all Americans who follow his example, encouraging them to not bother wearing a mask -- thus possibly spreading the infection to others that they come in contact with. A
good leader leads by example. Trump is not doing that.
spreading the infection to others that they come in contact with. A
good leader leads by example. Trump is not doing that.
One thousand plus deaths per day. more than 160,000 deaths overall.
When will it end?
Is it any coincidence that most of the states that are running off the >DS>chart with number of infections and hospitalizations and deaths are in >DS>states with Republican governers who are following Trump's lead in what >DS>to do.
At one time our Northeastern area was very bad and now it is not even close >to what it was.
President was correct when he stated this is the China virus. The U.S. has
done far more testing than any other county. When you test more
you find what is called within the media as Media Gold - more cases
At first we know nothing how to combat the unseen killer. Through the
leadership of President Trump we now have PPE gear including
ventilators and pharmaceuticals which have proven effective as indicated by >Doctors from around the world.
What's More Important?
- Going to school or protesting?
- Church or Protesting?
- A loved one's funeral or Protesting?
The only things Democrats let you do during Covid is protest riot and attack
the Police.
- Jim Jordon
One thousand plus deaths per day. more than 160,000 deaths overall. >DS>When will it end?
How many die each year from the flu?
The latest quote of from Trump shows how he is managing the Covid
pandemic. I.e. ignore it and expect it to go away on its own -- or let the
states handle it.
Is it any coincidence that most of the states that are running off the
chart with number of infections and hospitalizations and deaths are in
states with Republican governers who are following Trump's lead in what
to do.
One thousand plus deaths per day. more than 160,000 deaths overall.
When will it end?
Is it any coincidence that most of the states that are running off the chart with number of infections and hospitalizations and deaths are in states with Republican governers who are following Trump's lead in what
to do.
One thousand plus deaths per day. more than 160,000 deaths overall.
When will it end?
You are kind of free & loose with the term illegal. Democrats
don't in fact support illegal immigrants although they do support
immigration.
Every Democrat in the presidential primary debates stated that they
were in favor of open borders. They openly said it. When we talk about "open borders" we mean it; for people to come and go as they please,
with no documentation needed.
In contrast, Republicans such as Trump support LEGAL immigration,
meaning people with a visa should come to the USA to live as residents with the option of applying for citizenship.
The Democrats are not interested in securing the border, so there's nothing for them to discuss with Republicans. Sure, securing the
border seems like a good idea to combat coronavirus, but the Democrats
are not interested in combating coronavirus either.
The coronavirus makes us weak. Democrats prey on the weak. The
coronavirus opens many avenues of opportunities for the Democrats to
offer handouts, criticize Trump, release inmates from prisons and
jails, and get votes the sleazy way.
We're keeping the border to your south pretty tight, but obviously it could use some work too, if your country is interested in containing people during the pandemic.
What does Canada do with illegal immigrants? I mean, how do they
handle it? I know the UK doesn't appreciate them much.
Something like that would be needed for anyone after travel
regardless of their citizenship or reasons for travel.
There's never been a better time than now to combat illegal
immigration, but here in the states, we're not gonna do it. We're not gonna combat it any more than we ever have before. It's not realistic
for us based on the Democrat to Republican ratio in our federal government.
So, we need to focus on this question:
How do we get illegal immigrants to self quarantine when they get
here?
Open border and illegal immigrants are two different things.
asylum seekers had previously been treated, separating children from their parents will not help the situation at your border.
It may not be easy but America has to make a decision on what their border policy is and find a way forward.
What does Canada do with illegal immigrants? I mean, how do they handle it? I know the UK doesn't appreciate them much.
Deportation and/or inadmissibility are possible. Inadmissibility means that you would have no legal pathway to apply for Canadian citizenship.
People should do that in these times regardless of the reasons for their travel or the destinations.
Yeah moving patients with Covid to a Nursing Home was super brilliant NOT !Look at the numbers, not some anecdotal statement.
At first we know nothing how to combat the unseen killer.
Through the leadership of President Trump we now have PPE gear including ventilators and pharmaceuticals which
have proven effective indicated by Doctors from around the world.
Too little, too late. The medical system was and still is under stra for getting sufficient PPE. In many areas the hospitals are strained over capacity. We do not have any effective treatment pharmaceutical
What did we know when this CHINA Virus first came to here?
Not much, and the biggest impact came here from Europe.
Protesting is a constitutional right. Rioting is a crime. Do not confuse the two.
Does protesting include throwing rocks, bricks, frozen water bottles, using lasers to blind cops or firing fireworks at officers.
Since when is that protesting?
The things you mention are rioting, and are not done by the vast
majority of the peaceful protesters. Some of whom were blinded by the police.
China did not "unleash" Covid-19. They discovered it.
This irresponsibility sits squarely with the Chinese Communist Party.
Bull hockey pucks.
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Trump is easily recognizable with or without a mask. Who is he hurting
by not wearing a mask? He is hurting all Americans who follow his example, encouraging them to not bother wearing a mask -- thus possibly spreading the infection to others that they come in contact with. A
good leader leads by example. Trump is not doing that.
It's BS.... mind control... recall in the beginning... masks don't
work... then they do... The first time in history they quarantined the healthy and not just the sick.... Apparently it's okay to go to Walmart but not church... it was okay to get an abortion but (at one time) you couldn't have elective surgery... You could have a BLM riot and burn
down a city, with no masks, but you couldn't go to a family funeral.
There is a lot of hypocrisy, some of which is more recognizable than Trump. The cure is worse that the disease ... Saw a meme the other day that rang true... I have a CHINA virus joke to tell you.... but there
is a 99.9% chance you won't get it.
The CHINA virus has done more damage to our civil liberties than it did affect our health..
Open border and illegal immigrants are two different things.
I agree with you. Democrats want illegal immigration to become
legalized; that's their definition of "open borders." If they get
their way, they will have a tremendous amount of new voters with an appreciation for the Democratic Party.
I agree, but separating children from people who may or may not be
their actual parents might be a great thing to do for those kids. Separating children from people who snuck into the USA might be great
for those children too.
If I smuggled my kids into Canada by swimming across the St Lawrence River, and I got caught, would the Canadian authorities suspect that
maybe I'm being a lousy parent?
It may not be easy but America has to make a decision on what
their border policy is and find a way forward.
You're right! They need to work on immigration issues, both legal & illegal immigration issues, but neither party will budge on their position.
Democrats are smart, whereas they won't do anything to weaken their
party, but will do anything and everything to weaken their citizens. Republicans are smart too, whereas they won't risk losing votes. But
the Democrats ultimately win on immigration, because the system is
exactly where they want it to be.
Deportation and/or inadmissibility are possible. Inadmissibility
means that you would have no legal pathway to apply for Canadian
citizenship.
Sounds smart! I like it. But are Canadian liberals interested in
changing that? Be cautious! Liberals can turn the world you live in
upside down.
People should do that in these times regardless of the reasons for
their travel or the destinations.
It would be a good idea to pray for bad people to change.
Trump is easily recognizable with or without a mask. Who is he hurting >DS>by not wearing a mask? He is hurting all Americans who follow his >DS>example, encouraging them to not bother wearing a mask -- thus possibly >DS>spreading the infection to others that they come in contact with. A >DS>good leader leads by example. Trump is not doing that.
It's BS.... mind control... recall in the beginning... masks don't work... >then they do...
The first time in history they quarantined the healthy and
not just the sick....
Apparently it's okay to go to Walmart but not church...
it was okay to get an abortion but (at one time) you couldn't have elective
surgery...
You could have a BLM riot and burn down a city, with no masks,
but you couldn't go to a family funeral.
There is a lot of hypocrisy, some of which is more recognizable than Trump.
The cure is worse that the disease ...
Saw a meme the other day that rang true...
I have a CHINA virus joke to tell you....
but there is a 99.9% chance you won't get it.
The CHINA virus has done more damage to our civil liberties than it did
affect our health..
spreading the infection to others that they come in contact with. DS>Agood leader leads by example. Trump is not doing that.
Maybe he didn't wear a mask at first, but now he does. He takes it off
before he starts talking though, just like Biden. Sometimes I have to
remove my mask so people could hear me too.
much, and the biggest impact came here from Europe.What did we know when this CHINA Virus first came to here? DS> DS>Not
Europe? The virus did not originate in Europe. Everyone (including you)
knows that. By the way, I see very clearly what your attempting to do here, fog up the issue make it seem unclear and dissolve responsibility from
China.
The things you mention are rioting, and are not done by the vast >DS>majority of the peaceful protesters. Some of whom were blinded by DS>thepolice.
First of All: There it is. "The attempt" w/ they are not all bad, as if to
suggest it is just some rotten apples among the basket..... Typical
response from the left, the sad truth is you have no idea how many are
rotten to the core, but I can guarantee you it is of a far greater number then you will say here. These are NOT a few instigators.
Second of All: Not a single one - of these protesters were blinded by
Police, As the Police do NOT use lasers to blind protesters, if they use
them at all.
China did not "unleash" Covid-19. They discovered it.
Yeah they sure did... and they also did not contain it to China at all as
people throughout the entire world have succumb to the China Virus many
have died many more are recovering, You're welcome, don't mention it.
By the way, The use of the word "Discover" would NOT be improper. Created
would be a far better description to the truth. This was not something that already existed but actually was created in lab.
spreading the infection to others that they come in contact with. A >DS>good leader leads by example. Trump is not doing that.
Maybe he didn't wear a mask at first, but now he does. He takes it off
before he starts talking though, just like Biden. Sometimes I have to
remove my mask so people could hear me too.
"We're asking everyboy that when you are not alone to socially
distance, wear a mask, get a mask. Whether you like the mas or not,
Trump has finally come to his senses, realizing that Dr. Anthony Fauci
Asylum seekers arriving at the border on American soil and asking for asylu is perfectly legal. That is how it's done. Then they have a hearing and the
Nobody is sneaking.
Democrats are Americans, just like you. I don't think they are the enemy yo seem to think they are. They are different sure, but they want law & order secure borders the same as you do.
Asylum seekers arriving at the border on American soil and asking
for asylu is perfectly legal. That is how it's done. Then they
have a hearing and the
There has been a change to this. Individuals who cross through a third
country, but do not apply for asylum there first, will lose their
right to apply for asylum in the USA. The move was challenged in the
US Supreme Court, and was upheld.
Nobody is sneaking.
Haven't you heard about the underground tunnels? Human trafficking cartels? Wall jumpers? Swimming across the Rio Grande? This is all
stuff that I'd call "sneaking."
Democrats are Americans, just like you. I don't think they are the
enemy yo seem to think they are. They are different sure, but they
want law & order secure borders the same as you do.
You lost me at the "law & order" part. Democrats are aligning with BLM
& ANTIFA.
There is non-stop violence in Portland, Oregon (of all places.) The Democrats want police defunded,
inmates released early, and cheaper street drugs.
It's not the version of "law & order" that I had in mind.
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Trump is easily recognizable with or without a mask. Who is he hurting
by not wearing a mask? He is hurting all Americans who follow his example, encouraging them to not bother wearing a mask -- thus possibly spreading the infection to others that they come in contact with. A
good leader leads by example. Trump is not doing that.
It's BS.... mind control... recall in the beginning...
masks don't work... then they do...
The first time in history they quarantined the
healthy and not just the sick....
Apparently it's okay to go to Walmart but not church...
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spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: It is what it is <=-
spreading the infection to others that they come in contact with. A
good leader leads by example. Trump is not doing that.
Maybe he didn't wear a mask at first, but now he does. He takes it off before he starts talking though, just like Biden. Sometimes I have to remove my mask so people could hear me too.
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Why would the Governor of New York bring people infected w/ Covid into
a environment such as a nursing home; where people are most susceptible and most vulnerable to the covid-19 virus? That was a real bone-head
move.
Says who? Have you ever seen one of the Presidents covid briefings? (apparently not) When the President talks about the massive
numbers of PPE, DME
(Durable Medical Equipment) as well as the enormous stockpile of pharmaceuticals on hand.
What did we know when this CHINA Virus first came to here?
Not much, and the biggest impact came here from Europe.
Europe? The virus did not originate in Europe.
Everyone (including you) knows that.
By the way, I see very clearly what your attempting to do here, fog up
the issue make it seem unclear and dissolve responsibility from China.
Protesting is a constitutional right. Rioting is a crime. Do not
confuse the two.
The things you mention are rioting, and are not done by the vast
majority of the peaceful protesters. Some of whom were blinded by the police.
First of All: There it is. "The attempt" w/ they are not all bad,
as if to suggest it is just some rotten apples among the basket..... Typical response from the left, the sad truth is you have no idea how
many are rotten to the core, but I can guarantee you it is of a far greater number then you will say here. These are NOT a few instigators.
Second of All: Not a single one - of these protesters were blinded by Police, As the Police do NOT use lasers to blind protesters, if they
use them at all.
China did not "unleash" Covid-19. They discovered it.
Yeah they sure did... and they also did not contain it to China at all
as people throughout the entire world have succumb to the China Virus
many have died many more are recovering, You're welcome, don't mention it.
By the way, The use of the word "Discover" would NOT be improper. Created would be a far better description to the truth.
This was not something that already existed but actually was created
in lab.
Open border and illegal immigrants are two different things.
I agree with you.
Democrats want illegal immigration to become legalized;
that's their definition of "open borders."
If they get their way, they will have a tremendous amount of new voters with
an appreciation for the Democratic Party.
asylum seekers had previously been treated, separating children fromtheir AI> parents will not help the situation at your border.
I agree, but separating children from people who may or may not be their >actual parents might be a great thing to do for those kids. Separating
children from people who snuck into the USA might be great for those
children too.
If I smuggled my kids into Canada by swimming across the St Lawrence River,
and I got caught, would the Canadian authorities suspect that maybe I'm
being a lousy parent?
Asylum seekers arriving at the border on American soil and asking for asylum
is perfectly legal. That is how it's done. Then they have a hearing and the immigration department decides to give them asylum or not.
"We're asking everyboy that when you are not alone to socially >LL>distance, wear a mask, get a mask. Whether you like the mas or not,
Did you forget to add something to that message? All these Trump quotes
sound like excellent advice.
Trump has finally come to his senses, realizing that Dr. Anthony LL>Fauci
See? Now you can vote for him.
Asylum seekers arriving at the border on American soil and asking AI>forasylu is perfectly legal. That is how it's done. Then they have AI>a
hearing and the
There has been a change to this. Individuals who cross through a third
country, but do not apply for asylum there first, will lose their right to apply for asylum in the USA. The move was challenged in the US Supreme
Court, and was upheld.
Nobody is sneaking.
Haven't you heard about the underground tunnels? Human trafficking cartels?
Wall jumpers? Swimming across the Rio Grande? This is all stuff that I'd
call "sneaking."
There is non-stop violence in Portland, Oregon (of all places.) The Democrats want police defunded,
Rubbish. This is not now and never was a Democrat policy.
inmates released early, and cheaper street drugs.
More rubbish.
Asylum seekers arriving at the border on American soil and asking for
asylum is perfectly legal. That is how it's done. Then they have a
hearing and the immigration department decides to give them asylum or
not.
Trump made up a rule to change that. In September 2019 the USSC
decided to allow Trump's rule to remain in place until the courts
decided the issue. As of now, the matter is still in the courts,
with no decision made.
Rubbish. This is not now and never was a Democrat policy.
Bill Deblasio, mayor of NYC, has given in to protesters demands by shifting $1 billion dollars away from NYC police.
inmates released early, and cheaper street drugs.
More rubbish.
In New York, jail is already a thing of the past. In California, state
prisons are letting inmates out "to protect them from covid," but I
see it as a slap in the face to crime victims, and a way to save
money.
I wish this was all rubbish. My state is horrible, and these Democrat trends could lead to the destruction of the whole country if they get
any more powerful.
The coronavirus was first discovered in China. Then it spread to
other countries, and eventually the entire world. That is the way
viruses work. They spread from one place to another, and never
stop until there is nobody left it can infect. Those infected in
China traveled to Europe, and then to the USA. How difficult is
that to understand?
And George Floyd is still breathing just fine, while keeping his
mother company. And let's not forget about all those black kids who
were just playing dead after white cops shot them with blanks.
And let's not forget about all those black kids who
were just playing dead after white cops shot them with blanks.
By the way, The use of the word "Discover" would NOT be improper. Crea
would be a far better description to the truth. This was not something t already existed but actually was created in lab.
Yeah. Right. By Morgus the Magnificent. Right here in New Orleans.
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Trump is easily recognizable with or without a mask. Who is he hurti by not wearing a mask? He is hurting all Americans who follow his example, encouraging them to not bother wearing a mask -- thus possib spreading the infection to others that they come in contact with. A good leader leads by example. Trump is not doing that.
It's BS.... mind control... recall in the beginning...
masks don't work... then they do...
Not ever a true representation -- in the beginning it was don't try to grab up the N95 masks that our medical staff so desperately need.
The first time in history they quarantined the
healthy and not just the sick....
And again -- a mis representation. The the problem is that you cannot tell who is not infected without testing, and in the beginning hardly anyone could get tested.
Apparently it's okay to go to Walmart but not church...
Depends on how many people are there. Mass church gatherings and
funerals became super spreader events. Any place where hundreds or more people are together without social distancing or masks are very risky.
legalized, as he actually married one of them.
not object to Hawai'i conducting elections that are 100% mail-in
ballots. So what is his problem with states doing so for the
upcoming presidential election?
Not until after he follows Dr. Fauci's footsteps and throws the first
pitch for the Washington Nationals. At age 79, Dr. Fauci threw a pitch
That's what border control is for. And they do a very good job.
But I know that defunding police is not a democrat policy.
I can understand letting non violent criminals out if there is no safe plac to put them. When courts decide a sentence, that sentence should be carried out.
N.Y, and other larg liberal cities, say it's Okay to BLM riot without masks... but you can't go to church if there is a crowd of 10-25. Apparent casinos are open to the general public be churches are not.
Al was stating that the asylum sneakers don't sneak,
But I know that defunding police is not a democrat policy.
I don't know how else to describe it. It's not a Republican policy,
but several Democrats are enacting it.
It's ambiguous, and in NY for example, 2nd degree murder (unplanned/spontaneous) is not considered "violent," and we let those
guys out of jail in time for the 6 o' clock news, so they can hear
about their crime while having dinner with their families.
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I understood how viruses travel; before you spelled out how it works. When this thread began it looked like China was being given a pass,
when it was said that large amounts of the infected were coming from Europe.
Make no mistake, nothing that even renders close to provide a
pass to China, should be attempted EVER!
The FACTS are that Chinese did a lousy job of keeping this within
China.
It was Dale's statement that seemed to provide the pass that I was referring too...
"biggest impact came here from Europe." Dale Shipp
The biggest "epic center" was where the Virus was led out of the its creation point from within the Lab.
Europe the biggest impact? - to use as phrase from Joe Biden:
Malarkey You can could Europe into China nearly 4 times.
And George Floyd is still breathing just fine, while keeping his
mother company. And let's not forget about all those black kids who
were just playing dead after white cops shot them with blanks.
Here is another prospective.
George Floyd's death was tragic but I do not believe for one moment
the carnage and chaos that has happened since does NOT have a thing to
do with Floyd's death.
Did he deserve to die: NO!
Was he a good man: NO!
Good men, do not pass off fake $20.00 bills for real ones, nor do they
point a gun at pregnant womens belly. (As alleged in the media.)
No, they don't. They need to approach someone at the border and ask for asy
Wohan where the virus was first found. They have done a much better job
at limiting its spread than the USA has done.
Floyd's death and its dramatic video evidence were the trigger or last straw to a long simmering unrest.
It is not proven that he knows that he did that. Some fake bills look pretty real. Nothing that I have seen implies that he intentionally
tried to pass fake money.
I guess your point of view is "if the facts disagree with my ideas, then they should not be published". It seems if you got that directly from Trump. It is what he does.
How could the officers know anything about his history? To say that he deserved to die because "He was not a good man" is tandamont to issuing a vendetta against those who have made mistakes in their life.
Good men, do not pass off fake $20.00 bills for real onesIt is not proven that he knows that he did that.
The coronavirus was first discovered in China. Then it spread to
other countries, and eventually the entire world. That is the way >LL>viruses work. They spread from one place to another, and never
stop until there is nobody left it can infect. Those infected in
China traveled to Europe, and then to the USA. How difficult is
that to understand?
I understood how viruses travel; before you spelled out how it works. When
this thread began it looked like China was being given a pass, when it
was said that large amounts of the infected were coming from Europe. Make no
mistake, nothing that even renders close to provide a pass to China,
should be attempted EVER!
The FACTS are that Chinese did a lousy job of keeping this within China.
The World Health Organization is not so innocent in this either as the WHO
Chief was hand picked by China. The United States of America was the top contributor more then any other country to the World Health Organization in the world.
Now, they do not get 10 cents from the U.S.A.
It was Dale's statement that seemed to provide the pass that I was referring
too...
"biggest impact came here from Europe." Dale Shipp
The biggest "epic center" was where the Virus was led out of the its
creation point from within the Lab.
Europe the biggest impact? - to use as phrase from Joe Biden: Malarkey
You can could Europe into China nearly 4 times.
And George Floyd is still breathing just fine, while keeping his
mother company. And let's not forget about all those black kids who >LL>were just playing dead after white cops shot them with blanks.
There was another "leaked video" of the events of what happened before he >died. Do not misunderstand me as I will say here clearly the man did NOT >deserve to die. This video does show everything that happened before the
viral video that has
seen by millions that has been a tearing at the Nations seams since it was >released.
Here is another prospective.
George Floyd's death was tragic but I do not believe for one moment the >carnage and chaos that has happened since does NOT have a thing to do with >Floyd's death.
Here is that other video (the one, we never got a chance to see) >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPSwqp5fdIw
As the video starts off. He could seem to understand the simple instructions
provided by the cop. To put both hands on the wheel as he did not comply,
he did so with the left
hand only at first, the cop gave the instruction over and over again "put
the
both hands on the wheel!". I do not see him trying to resist arrest, but it
is apparent that he was very terrified even made said "please don't shot me
man." Again he was terrified, shaken and scared.
Although as I say: Floyd was not complaint through most of the video. Either
he did not understand or was stoned out of his mind. (it has been
determined that he did have the narcotic fentanyl was found)
Here are the the medical findings: >https://www.independentsentinel.com/report-full-autopsy-of-mr-floyd-fentanyl-me
th-and-pot/
I do not see where Floyd was NOT combative just not was not at all coherent >or following the instructions of the officer at 5:12 of the video Floyd says >repeatably "I'm not that kind of guy, I think that this his way of
indicating
that was not trying to be difficult or combative. Like I have also stated he >was not so good in following the instructions to any degree. Did he deserve
to die: NO! Was he a good man: NO! Good men, do not pass off fake $20.00 bills for real ones, nor do they point a gun at pregnant womens belly. (As alleged in the media.)
And let's not forget about all those black kids who
were just playing dead after white cops shot them with blanks.
To your baseless point (from above)
about these black kids were never shot - playing dead >^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^ your words not mine. ^^
The same is true about those innocent children shot and killed by stray >bullets by those involved with the aftermath of Black on Black Crime and >members of BLM but people on the left will say that was reported by Fox News >and therefore it is considered to be Fake News. Keep telling yourself that
also, never happened...
Crea LL> > would be a far better description to the truth. This was not something t LL> > already existed but actually was created in lab.By the way, The use of the word "Discover" would NOT be improper.
Yeah. Right. By Morgus the Magnificent. Right here in New Orleans.
What's the matter Lee. Having a slight issue with that fact also.
legalized, as he actually married one of them.
Melania was an illegal?
not object to Hawai'i conducting elections that are 100% mail-in >LL>ballots. So what is his problem with states doing so for the
upcoming presidential election?
Hawaii doesn't share a land border with thousands of Democrat activists from
central America.
No, they don't. They need to approach someone at the border and
ask for asy
It's just like leaving the liquor cabinet unlocked with a house full
of teenagers. They won't touch it because they know that they are too young to consume alcohol.
legalized, as he actually married one of them.
Melania was an illegal?
After Trump married her, she was legal.
That is why it was called a legal marriage,
rather than a sham marriage.
The current situation is out of step with your own (American) as well as international law. That is Donald Trumps doing. I think the whole border/wa thing was simply to rile up the base and ultimately divides Americans in a
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Floyd's death and its dramatic video evidence were the trigger or last straw to a long simmering unrest.
Everything was fine until the Democrats & their associates exploited George Floyd's death. Was fine for whites, was fine for blacks. Nobody was complaining.
It's not known that Derek Chauvin was culpable in the death. Nothing
that I've seen implies that he purposefully committed homicide. Maybe
it was all the meth that killed the counterfeit suspect.
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Getting information from Trump is far better then getting the
narrative twisted from the likes of CNN or MSNBC any day of the week.
How could the officers know anything about his history? To say that he deserved to die because "He was not a good man" is tandamont to issuing a vendetta against those who have made mistakes in their life.
You are yet again attempting to twist this.
The definition of tandamont; is as good as.
There is no reference to the word vendetta.
Good men, do not pass off fake $20.00 bills forIt is not proven that he knows that he did that.
real ones
It is why the cops arrived on the scene.
If George Floyd simply obeyed all of the officers commands, he would
be alive today, but he calmed he was claustrophobic which is why the police had trouble getting into the back of the police car.
From my observation he appeared to be cramped up within that vehicle
that he was driving, he was flipping out then. Therefore there had to
be another reason why he did not want to be arrested. Could it be
because of another conviction or he would of been guilty of being in violation of his parole.
Have you seen the destruction Minneapolis?
I suspect that they (the media that you watch) don't care to show
this.
Does it look like this was done by just a few people, as you have suggested?
Many Business owners have lost everything now that those buildings
have been reduced to rubble.
DUH -- he held his knee on George's neck for more than eight minutes, cutting off his air. If you think that does not make him culpable in
the death, then something is wrong with your logic. The only question
for the courts will be what degree of murder.
If you think that nobody was complaining, then you must have gone deaf
and blind years ago.
DUH -- he held his knee on George's neck for more than eight minutes, cutting off his air. If you think that does not make him culpable in
they had been given a fake $20 bill. No one ever attempted to determine whether or not Floyd had known that the bill was fake.
It is believable that having a gun pushed in your face would cause most people to "flip out".
You need to develop some sources that tell the truth. It is well known that is not Trump.
Your definition is correct for the word that I meant to type,
tantamount, and I meant the usage of the term vendetta. You seem to be justifying punishing people for what they might have done in the past.
Where did you see that he was on parole at the time of the incident?
I saw what you posted on network news, CNN, MSMBC and FoxNews. What are you trying to intimidate?
No, it does not look like a few people, nor have I previously said that.
I will admit that there was an immediate uprising triggered by pent up anger that resulting in many people committing acts of violence and causing great damage. While I can sort of understand their frustration,
I by no means condone their actions. If found, they should be charged
and prosecuted.
Nor can they be the justification
for the type of violent treatment that has been meted out to the
protest crowds in some situations, e.g. Lafayette Square.
Many Business owners have lost everything now that those buildings have been reduced to rubble.
And they deserve to be compensated for their loss.
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DUH -- he held his knee on George's neck for more than eight minutes, cutting off his air. If you think that does not make him culpable in
the death, then something is wrong with your logic. The only question
for the courts will be what degree of murder.
And the fact it's come out that the two had worked together and had disagreements in the past makes murder a more appropriate
charge than it would have been if it was merely a police
issue.
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Cops shoot people in the line of duty every day; it is part of their
job. It's not part of their job to evaluate the color of the suspect's skin beforehand.
DUH -- he held his knee on George's neck for more than eight minutes, cutting off his air. If you think that does not make him culpable in
I'm not an expert at analyzing the 2nd half of a confrontation. How do
we know he wasn't throwing punches at Chauvin? If a cop wants to kill
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they had been given a fake $20 bill. No one ever attempted to determine whether or not Floyd had known that the bill was fake.
That's for a court to decide! Do you think the cops are gonna pull a
lie detector out of their trunk and hook it up to a suspect at the
scene?
Guilty until bail is posted - that's the way it's always been. Not
just for blacks either!
It is believable that having a gun pushed in your face would cause most people to "flip out".
Believable by who? Anderson Cooper? Brooke Baldwin? I've had guns
pointed to my head before - even by police. Flipping out is a stupid move. I didn't flip out and I survived to tell my story.
Do you want our cops to stop carrying guns? To stop using them? What
good will they be without guns?
Do convenience store clerks flip out
when they get guns pointed to their heads?
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You need to develop some sources that tell the truth. It is well known that is not Trump.
Trump is the President even when people like you said he would never
be the President. It is the lame street media who twists his words and take things out of context and they this deliberately, to plant the
seed into the weak minded, who can not think for themselves.
Your definition is correct for the word that I meant to type,
tantamount, and I meant the usage of the term vendetta. You seem to be justifying punishing people for what they might have done in the past.
Even that word of tantamount does not mean Vendetta.
the correct definition of the of the word of tantamount is equivalent
in seriousness; to virtually the same as or as good as.
There is no connection to the word Vendetta whatsoever.
Where did you see that he was on parole at the time of the incident?
I did not see any such evidence that Mr. Floyd was in violation any
such parole, but can you think of another reason as to why he did not
want to be arrested. So what your arrested, have your day in court, and live another day.
I saw what you posted on network news, CNN, MSMBC and FoxNews. What are you trying to intimidate?
Intimidate? (interesting pause) or did you mean to say indicate.
I wouldn't think the lame street media would ever show these images.
No, it does not look like a few people, nor have I previously said that.
I will admit that there was an immediate uprising triggered by pent up anger that resulting in many people committing acts of violence and causing great damage. While I can sort of understand their frustration,
I by no means condone their actions. If found, they should be charged
and prosecuted.
Oh yes you did many times in-fact, you have stated that the carnage or whatever it is that happening is not the result of BLM you went on to
make it sound that these people were not bad and these few instigators
or as if to suggest that these are actions of a few.
At the very least that is how you made it sound.
Remember Dale, what you have said previously, is on record; here in fidoland.
Nor can they be the justification
for the type of violent treatment that has been meted out to the
protest crowds in some situations, e.g. Lafayette Square.
I will tell you why exactly with what happened at Lafayette Square.
The number one job of the Secret Service is to protect the President.
Many Business owners have lost everything now that those buildings have been reduced to rubble.
And they deserve to be compensated for their loss.
Do you know how insurance works beyond inner workings of your mind?
Brown or Tamir Rice or Walter Scott or Philando Castile or Stephon Clark
or Breonna Taylor or Rayshard Brooks.
It would have very easy for the cop to have given Floyd a warrant to
appear in court instead of cuffing him under gunpoint.
Insurance is not the only means of compensation. They deserve to be compensated for their loss by what ever means possible. It is not
certain that they will receive such compensation.
It's easy to tell others how to do their job, but Derek Chauvin has a lieutenant to answer to.
It is well known that they both worked at the same place. I have not
seen evidence that they actually knew each other or had disagreements.
It is possible, and is something that the detectives handling the case
Derek Chauvin was recently back to work after some kind of an incident, not because he was wanted back but because his contract stipulated he would be back to work.
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Brown or Tamir Rice or Walter Scott or Philando Castile or Stephon Clark or Breonna Taylor or Rayshard Brooks.
What can we do about it? What can they do about it?
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It would have very easy for the cop to have given Floyd a warrant to appear in court instead of cuffing him under gunpoint.
It's easy to tell others how to do their job, but Derek Chauvin has a lieutenant to answer to.
Cops give appearance tickets to people who were caught speeding, or running a red light. But certain offenses require the suspect to be detained & processed.
Counterfeiting is not like a speeding ticket. It's like stealing
someone's credit card and then trying to use it. People speed by accident, but they don't counterfeit by accident.
I'm confident that a police sergeant isn't going to take a suspect to
the police station for processing if he doesn't have to. You seem to
be arguing that counterfeiting is as harmless as a traffic violation.
On 08-13-20 10:13, Aaron Thomas <=-
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The best compensation I can think of is prison sentences for the
peaceful protesters who looted & burned the places to ground.
We could join or support the current peaceful protests to reform what
And there is no evidence that Floyd counterfeited anything. He is
accused of passing a counterfeit note -- which could easily have been by accident. Nothing has come out since to imply otherwise.
Your sentence is an oxymoron. Peaceful protesters are protected by the first amendment. They have the complete right to do so. Those who
loot or burn are not peaceful protesters and should be prosecuted.
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spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: It is what it is <=-
You need to develop some sources that tell the truth. It is well kno that is not Trump.
Trump is the President even when people like you said he would never
He is that, unfortunately for the country, the economy and the 160,000 dead people.
be the President. It is the lame street media who twists his words an take things out of context and they this deliberately, to plant the seed into the weak minded, who can not think for themselves.
They do not need to twist his words -- they simply quote them. Talk
about planting seed into the weak minded who cannot think for themselves -- what do you think he and Fox news have been doing for years.
Not intimidate (late night fingers) but indicate, imply or whatever
fits.
I will tell you why exactly with what happened at Lafayette Square. The number one job of the Secret Service is to protect the President.
Then why did they suddenly start pushing people back with force,
shooting chemical agents and rubber bullets. If they needed to clear
a path, they could have easily posted it sooner so that Trump could get his photo op in front of the church.
Do you know how insurance works beyond inner workings of your mind?
Insurance is not the only means of compensation. They deserve to be compensated for their loss by what ever means possible. It is not
certain that they will receive such compensation.
Gregory Deyss wrote to Dale Shipp <=-
Trump is the President even when people like you said he would never be the President. It is the lame street media who twists his words and
take things out of context and they this deliberately, to plant the
seed into the weak minded, who can not think for themselves.
The peaceful protesters are burning buildings down and killing people;
I'm not gonna join that.
Holding an entire city hostage, because one color is suffering, that's
not fair to the other colors.
Citizens shouldn't pay for George Floyd's mistakes or for Derek
Chauvin's mistakes.
They should voice their concerns to the appropriate law makers in
their districts, but then again, there's no free stuff involved when
you go that route.
Unfortunately, with the education system long in the hands of the Left, the number of people who can't think
for themeslves is growing. But it's getting worse. Not only are many
of these people uneducated, they are
mis-educated (taught that many falsehoods are true).
The peaceful protesters are burning buildings down and killing people;
Ah, no. The peaceful protesters are not doing this although I know Donald Trump and other weak minded people put it so.
Ah, no. The peaceful protesters are not doing this although I know
Donald Trump and other weak minded people put it so.
We had a "peaceful protest" here in Binghamton. At the conclusion of
the protest, they decided to burn down a handicapped-accessible
playground owned by the city.
They took something away that my kids used to enjoy, and I helped pay
for.
"Black Lives Matter" <- That's who did this to us. I'm not blaming someone out of convenience like people do with Trump - this was done
by Black Lives Matter without a doubt.
It is convenient to blame BLM but that doesn't make it so. That is not what BLM is all about and it's not the outcome they are striving for.
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We could join or support the current peaceful protests to reform what
The peaceful protesters are burning buildings down and killing people;
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And there is no evidence that Floyd counterfeited anything. He is
accused of passing a counterfeit note -- which could easily have been by accident. Nothing has come out since to imply otherwise.
It's called "forgery" in New York. People go to jail for it here. It
makes no difference if you printed it yourself or not. It's like
getting caught with stolen property; no matter who stole it, you're the one going to jail for possessing it.
And if you resist arrest, you
might get yourself killed bascially for being an idiot. It's the way things are. If that sounds bad, write a letter to somebody who has the power to change it, but don't expect sympathy after burning down a department store.
On 08-14-20 08:48, Aaron Thomas <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: It is what it is <=-
Your sentence is an oxymoron. Peaceful protesters are protected by the first amendment. They have the complete right to do so. Those who
loot or burn are not peaceful protesters and should be prosecuted.
I have yet to see a peaceful protest. Is that what they do in small
towns? NYC, Chicago, Portland, and Seatle have not seen any "peaceful" protests. They've seen a lot of looting, burning, and murder.
On 08-14-20 12:27, Ron Lauzon <=-
spoke to Gregory Deyss about Re: It is what it is <=-
Unfortunately, with the education system long in the hands of the
Left, the number of people who can't think
for themeslves is growing. But it's getting worse. Not
only are many of these
people uneducated, they are
mis-educated (taught that many falsehoods are true).
People like Dale and Leo are products of those "schools".
Hello Aaron,
You are kind of free & loose with the term illegal. Democrats
don't in fact support illegal immigrants although they do support
immigration.
Every Democrat in the presidential primary debates stated that they
were in favor of open borders. They openly said it. When we talk about "open borders" we mean it; for people to come and go as they please,
with no documentation needed.
Open border and illegal immigrants are two different things.
In contrast, Republicans such as Trump support LEGAL immigration,
meaning people with a visa should come to the USA to live as residents
with the option of applying for citizenship.
What trump did in treating asylum seekers as criminals instead of the way AI>asylum seekers had previously been treated, separating children from their AI>parents will not help the situation at your border.
The Democrats are not interested in securing the border, so there's
nothing for them to discuss with Republicans. Sure, securing the
border seems like a good idea to combat coronavirus, but the Democrats
are not interested in combating coronavirus either.
It may not be easy but America has to make a decision on what their border AI>policy is and find a way forward.
Hello Aaron,
Democrats are Americans, just like you. I don't think they are the enemy AI>you seem to think they are. They are different sure, but they want law & AI>order and secure borders the same as you do.
Deportation and/or inadmissibility are possible. Inadmissibility
means that you would have no legal pathway to apply for Canadian
citizenship.
People who support BLM are Americans too, and these people are standing up AI>for law & order and I don't think you need to fear an anti fascist
On 08-09-20 12:32, Gregory Deyss <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: It is what it is <=-
This was not something that already existed but actually was created
in lab.
That is an unverified fake conspiracy rumor. There is no evidence to DS>support such a charge.
And George Floyd is still breathing just fine, while keeping his
mother company. And let's not forget about all those black kids who
were just playing dead after white cops shot them with blanks.
There was another "leaked video" of the events of what happened before he GD>died. Do not misunderstand me as I will say here clearly the man did NOT GD>deserve to die.
You seem to be justifying punishing people for what they might have done in DS>the past.
On 08-13-20 10:13, Aaron Thomas <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: It is what it is <=-
The best compensation I can think of is prison sentences for the
peaceful protesters who looted & burned the places to ground.
Your sentence is an oxymoron. Peaceful protesters are protected by the DS>first amendment. They have the complete right to do so.
Those who loot or burn are not peaceful protesters and should be DS>prosecuted.
Do you not realize how contradictory your sentence is?
Again -- that would depend on whether or not you knew it was stolen. If you came into possession of stolen property, subsequently were told it
was stolen, and then made restitution -- there would/should be no
penalty. Same goes for having and using a counterfeit bill.
Did I mention the child was white and the shooter was black?
It is convenient to blame BLM but that doesn't make it so. That is
not what BLM is all about and it's not the outcome they are
striving for.
Nahhh, they're just striving for marxism, defunding police,
destruction of the family unit, extorting non-black owned local
business etc, while the black-on-black crime rates continue to be
ignored as usual.
My point is that through the eyes of the liberal media, all protesters
are "peaceful protesters."
There's no such thing as "peaceful protesters" anymore. All these
George Floyd inspired protests are ending with either ashes, more dead people, or both.
How does BLM strive for destruction of the family unit, extorting local business (black or white), or black on black crime? It doesn't.
How does BLM strive for destruction of the family unit, extorting local business (black or white), or black on black crime? It doesn't.
After the George Floyd murder "defund the police" became a talking point bu of course that is a bad idea and is not going to happen.
How does BLM strive for destruction of the family unit, extorting
local business (black or white), or black on black crime? It
doesn't.
Okay I'll bite this time.
You likely won't bother to read any of these but the depth of URL's I
can copy-n-paste here about the race-baiting movement that is BLM is outstanding.
I challenge you or anyone else here to prove to me with factual
verifiable evidence that clearly shows BLM has done anything to specifically address black-on-black crime which continues to spiral
out of control in major cities including Toronto where I live.
Defunding the police clearly has shown to be a catastrophic failure in reducing black-on-black crime.
Please do not reply unless either you are willing to share some basic research as I have,
Did I mention the child was white and the shooter was black?
I read that article. It was published within the last few days.
Are our liberal friends reading that article on their left wing media?
On 08-14-20 08:38, Aaron Thomas <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: It is what it is <=-
We could join or support the current peaceful protests to reform what
The peaceful protesters are burning buildings down and killing people;
Do you not realize how contradictory your sentence is?
On 08-14-20 08:48, Aaron Thomas <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: It is what it is <=-
Your sentence is an oxymoron. Peaceful protesters are protected by the first amendment. They have the complete right to do so. Those who
loot or burn are not peaceful protesters and should be prosecuted.
I have yet to see a peaceful protest. Is that what they do in small
towns? NYC, Chicago, Portland, and Seatle have not seen any "peaceful" protests. They've seen a lot of looting, burning, and murder.
Then you have not been watching the right news channels. The people who DS>were gassed and shot on Lafayette Square were peaceful protesters. The DS>same has been true in many other cities, including the ones you name.
She and others were convicted and sentenced to 25 years. The crime was considered so horrendous that she was banned from being included in Trump's prison reform effort. She in fact turned up on a list of guests of the Whit
`Sarcasm' is completely lost on a leftie democrat. Which sometimes is exact what makes it so funny!
On 08-28-20 21:38, Tim Richardson <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: It is what it is <=-
Then you have not been watching the right news channels. The people who
were gassed and shot on Lafayette Square were peaceful protesters. The
same has been true in many other cities, including the ones you name.
First of all, if you're talking about the `Lafayette Park' in DC, it
was forcefully cleared on June 1. Nobody was `shot' in the process. If they had been the leftie media in print and broadcast would still be harping on it endlessly!
BTW....that park is a `public' park on *federal property*, one of many federally owned properties the National Park Service manages and maintains.
The president intended to walk through the park with a number of
guests. The feds had the lawful right to see that it was safe for him
to do so.
As usual you embellished the tale with that `people shot' crap. Typical
of a democrat leftie.
Then you have not been watching the right news channels. The people who >DS>were gassed and shot on Lafayette Square were peaceful protesters. The >DS>same has been true in many other cities, including the ones you name.
First of all, if you're talking about the `Lafayette Park' in DC, it
was forcefully cleared on June 1. Nobody was `shot' in the process. If >TR> they had been the leftie media in print and broadcast would still be
harping on it endlessly!
You are correct in that it was forcefully cleared, people were gassed
with pepper spray, hit with batons and shields. The people were
peaceful. There was much coverage and criticism of the event. The
people who were shot with rubber bullets were another night, my mistake.
So he could have a photo-op in front of a church while holding
a bible upside down.
So he could have a photo-op in front of a church while holding
a bible upside down.
The reason for the clearing of protesters doesn't matter.
They were told to leave, they didn't listen, and they didn't respect authority.
It's about as smart as pointing a gun at a cop while caring for children.
The reason for the clearing of protesters doesn't matter.
Of course it matters. The protesters where not doing anything illegal.
Sounds like some kind of a police state, is that what you want for America? looks like that is happening now in America.
You don't need to point a gun or any weapon at police today, or even behave a threatening manor to end up dead or maimed at the hands of police. We've seen all this recently.
Right now, the police are intimidated by Democat-paid activists.
I'm against counterfeiting, drugs, robbery, rape, and murder.
The police have always had our back in these situations, and the left wants to interfere with it all of a sudden, I guess because of TDS.
You don't need to point a gun or any weapon at police today, or even behave >> a threatening manor to end up dead or maimed at the hands of police. We've >> seen all this recently.
You're correct, but it's never been a good idea to protest against police, and it's even worse to do it while you've got your kids with you.
So he could have a photo-op in front of a church while holding
a bible upside down.
The reason for the clearing of protesters doesn't matter.
Of course it matters. The protesters where not doing anything illegal.
They were told to leave, they didn't listen, and they didn't respect
authority.
Sounds like some kind of a police state, is that what you want for America? It looks like that is happening now in America.
It's about as smart as pointing a gun at a cop while caring for children.
You don't need to point a gun or any weapon at police today, or even behave in a threatening manor to end up dead or maimed at the hands of police.
We've seen all this recently.
Today we have people in the streets killing each other. Why the hell is
that.
Before you blame it all on the lefties I just want to point out this never happened under Obama. This is all happening under Donald Trump.
What the hell has happened to America?
So he could have a photo-op in front of a church while holding
a bible upside down.
The reason for the clearing of protesters doesn't matter. They were told to
leave, they didn't listen, and they didn't respect authority.
Ignoring instructions from police, while caring for children, is about as
smart as crossing the border illegally while caring for children.
It's about as smart as pointing a gun at a cop while caring for children.
Democrat-paid activists? ;)
The left as you call it wants law and order the same as you do.
The BLM protesters are protesting against the unjustifiable killing of unar citizens by police officers.
Trump had no authority to order the forceful removal of peaceful
protesters from the area.
The reason for the clearing of protesters doesn't matter.illegal.
Of course it matters. The protesters where not doing anything
When police tell me to leave, I leave.
Sounds like some kind of a police state, is that what you want for
America? looks like that is happening now in America.
Yes. I want the police to have more control than what they have now.
Right now, the police are intimidated by Democat-paid activists.
I'm against counterfeiting, drugs, robbery, rape, and murder.
The police have always had our back in these situations, and the left wants
to interfere with it all of a sudden, I guess because of TDS.
You don't need to point a gun or any weapon at police today, AI>or evenbehave a threatening manor to end up dead or maimed at AI>the hands of police. We've seen all this recently.
You're correct, but it's never been a good idea to protest against police,
and it's even worse to do it while you've got your kids with you.
Trump had no authority to order the forceful removal of peaceful >LL>protesters from the area.
Maybe you're right about Trump not having that authority, but the police DO
have that authority.
If the police are so scared of women and babies, we really are in
deep doo-doo. Not that any of those women and babies are as you claim "Democat-paid activists" - whatever that is.
They took an oath. Nothing in that oath requires any of them to obey
the whims of a wannabe dictator gone mad. So why do some do it?
The left as you call it wants law and order the same as you do.
If they get Joe Biden elected, then the protesters will disappear & there will be no more question about law & order.
The BLM protesters are protesting against the unjustifiable killing of unar >> citizens by police officers.
They only care about black citizens.
Police have to kill suspects sometimes.
Sometimes police kill unarmed people in error. It's nothing new, and it's not only happening to black people. Police are killing people of every color.
Some argue that it happens to blacks more than anyone else,
but that minimizes the deaths of other colors.
Black lives matter to the media, but other colors not so much.
More than 1 million people have died from coronavirus, but the media is
telling us that "the coronavirus is killing more blacks than any other color."
So then an idiot like Mike Bloomberg(D) hires is wife (Token black lady) to "battle the coronavirus attack on black people." Let's not worry about anyone except blacks because other colors are boring.
I don't think so. The BLM movement and the issue of police behaviour is not political. It is something that needs to be solved in the departments where these problems exist.
If the police are so scared of women and babies, we really are in
deep doo-doo. Not that any of those women and babies are as you claim >LL>"Democat-paid activists" - whatever that is.
Nobody was killed in that protest, but people are getting killed in all the
other peaceful riots.
They took an oath. Nothing in that oath requires any of them to obey >LL>the whims of a wannabe dictator gone mad. So why do some do it?
Trump didn't say "Fire the tear gas!" They made that decision on their own.
I don't think so. The BLM movement and the issue of police behaviour is not >> political. It is something that needs to be solved in the departments where >> these problems exist.
You really make it seem like police departments across North America are routinely targeting and killing black people and that "cops are bad" and
BLM is such a noble cause...
that just isn't true by a long shot. Please provide me factual evidence to show me wrong. I already showed evidence to the contrary in a previous message.
There are such things as bad cops, but its such a small percentage
I seriously doubt you are related to or friends with anyone in law enforcement for if you were you would not make such ongoing ignorant blanket statements.
Have you actually sat down and talked to a cop about what it is they deal with?
Our tax dollars rightfully go towards their trust that they will deal
with crime and enforce laws that we often take for granted. What a cop goes through on a daily shift is no joke; its a seriously emotionally-taxing job to do. Could you be a cop for a day? I couldn't and doubt you could either.
Sometimes a cop uses excessive force and thats bad, but not every cop is bad just like not every postal worker is going to shoot up their coworkers.
Now in a large city (which I seriously doubt you live in), there exists areas which are of high crime, so naturally there is a high police presence. The BLM movement specifically calls for the defunding and/or abolishing of the police, so who will patrol and deal with crime in those neighborhoods? Don't believe me? Look at the BLM website.
I have lived in downtown Toronto since 2007. Show me factual evidence of all of these problems you claim exist. Show me where Toronto cops routinely target and *KILL black people*.
What part of "If you don't want to be arrested, don't commit a crime" seems to go over your head?
Did you know that the vast majority of Toronto crime is gang-related? What should cops do, ask them politely to stop?
BLM is not minimizing deaths of other colours, I don't know why you take it that way.
The coronavirus is not racist. It will make people sick and some will die regardless of their colour. Perhaps black people are more at risk and I do wish that on them, or anyone.
When a cop does something wrong they should be reprimanded for that and retrained when that is possible or let go. A permanent record should also b kept so that other jurisdictions don't unknowingly hire a bad cop.
These things already exist. Derek Chauvin, the cop who knelt on George Floyd, is in jail right now. But that's not enough for extremists; they want ALL cops to pay for Derek Chauvin's crime.
Sometimes members of our military mess up too, and they get reprimanded. But just imagine the consequences if we were to defund the military because of it?
BLM is not minimizing deaths of other colours, I don't know why you take it >> that way.
They shot some woman for saying "All lives matter."
The coronavirus is not racist. It will make people sick and some will die
regardless of their colour. Perhaps black people are more at risk and I do >> wish that on them, or anyone.
You're right about that, and same here. But have you heard about this? The media, and Democratic NYC mayor Bill Deblasio want everyone to know that the virus is disproportionately infecting more blacks than whites. Notice how powerful a message like that can be?
administrative leave after the incident. I don't know if or how that will change but I hope the police department there will hold that officer accountable for his actions.
Well, I know Donald Trump and his RNC cohorts have brought it up saying it a democrat policy, of course it is not and never was.
These people who riot/burn/destroy/kill are not going to accomplish anythin
virus is disproportionately infecting more blacks than whites. Notice how powerful a message like that can be?
Even if you turn that message sideways it tells me the same thing, we need solution for that. A solution for everyone.
You are correct in that it was forcefully cleared, people were gassed
with pepper spray, hit with batons and shields. The people were
peaceful. There was much coverage and criticism of the event. The
people who were shot with rubber bullets were another night, my mistake.
On 09-03-20 09:13, Gregory Deyss <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: It is what it is <=-
You are correct in that it was forcefully cleared, people were gassed
with pepper spray, hit with batons and shields. The people were
peaceful. There was much coverage and criticism of the event. The
people who were shot with rubber bullets were another night, my mistake.
We have all seen how quickly these so called peaceful protest can
become volatile.
What are they protesting about in first place?
Black Job equality? These people have affirmative action, getting
hired based on their skin color is racist. It should be the right
person wither a man or a women of any race.
Black people wouldn't get killed by a officer's gun, if they would
simply comply with Police instruction,
life, I had the opportunity to help evaluate people for promotion. It became obvious that people had been held back because of previous
It is a fact of life for people of color that they are often treated differently from others by police. There are times when the "police
There are also times when black people are killed simply because they
are perceived as being in a place where they do not belong.
Of course it should be. But all too often it is not. In a previous
life, I had the opportunity to help evaluate people for promotion. It became obvious that people had been held back because of previous discrimination. For example, even though their performance was equal to other candidates they would be discriminated against because they did
not get a college degree 20 years ago. Some did not have the same job record because of discrimination in previous years. It would be
wonderful if we did not feel a need to take such past discrimination
into account, and maybe someday that will be true. We are not yet
there.
Black people wouldn't get killed by a officer's gun, if they would simply comply with Police instruction,
It is a fact of life for people of color that they are often treated differently from others by police. There are times when the "police instruction" is absurd.
There are also times when black people are killed simply because they
are perceived as being in a place where they do not belong.
On 09-05-20 09:41, Gregory Deyss <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: It is what it is <=-
There are also times when black people are killed simply because they
are perceived as being in a place where they do not belong.
That is total bunch of liberal BS, if this was the case you would be seeing much more (like 100x) of the havoc you are seeing now.
There are also times when black people are killed simply because they >DS>are perceived as being in a place where they do not belong.
That is total bunch of liberal BS, if this was the case you would be >GD>seeing much more (like 100x) of the havoc you are seeing now.
Really, BS? Tell that to Trayvon Martin, Breonna Taylor and Ahmaud
Arbrey. Oh, I guess you can't. They got shot and killed simply for
being in the wrong place at the wrong time. The first and last were
shot by vigilanties who just did not think that they belonged in the >neighborhood.
You are correct in that it was forcefully cleared, people were gassed >DS>with pepper spray, hit with batons and shields. The people were >DS>peaceful. There was much coverage and criticism of the event. The >DS>people who were shot with rubber bullets were another night, my mistake.
We have all seen how quickly these so called peaceful protest can become >volatile.
What are they protesting about in first place?
Black Job equality?
Please won't you be my neighbor?
--
We Put Big Loads In Tight Places
Trump and his supporters do not like that. So they are having
a hissy fit.
Please won't you be my neighbor?
-- LL>We Put Big Loads In Tight Places
Mr Rogers could have shortened the song with just that tagline. That's all
he what he was probably getting at :)
Trump and his supporters do not like that. So they are having
a hissy fit.
Give us some credit. What we don't like about the protests is that they are
obviously not at all peaceful.
Try changing all this horrible crap into strictly peaceful protests, and you
might even be able to get Trump to help with your cause.
He was a strange character in real life. Actor Tom Hanks said he
People have a constitutional right to protest. Sending in law
He was a strange character in real life. Actor Tom Hanks said he
Hanks is a pretty strange character too.
People have a constitutional right to protest. Sending in law
Rioting is illegal. Ask your buddies for me how much for an iphone?
Trump and his supporters do not like that. So they are having
a hissy fit.
Give us some credit. What we don't like about the protests is that they AT>are obviously not at all peaceful.
Try changing all this horrible crap into strictly peaceful protests, and AT>you might even be able to get Trump to help with your cause.
The longer these riots and arsons go on, the more people bail out of the leftist deomcrat cities where they are happening.
The longer these riots and arsons go on, the more people bail out of the leftist deomcrat cities where they are happening.
BLM came to my town, destroyed a few things, and now they're long gone. The
damage they did here was only $750,000 but we are a small town and the repairs
have not even begun. (BLM destroyed city property back on August 2nd.)
I think that when Black Lives Matter destroys city property, they should lose
their right to protest in that city. After all, people lose their right to own
guns at certain points in their lives, so other rights should be used as leverage too.
Somebody did that late at night after a BLM protest.
Do you know who did that, and were they arrested and charged?
Somebody did that late at night after a BLM protest.
So you're saying that a Trump supporter did this to make it look like BLM did it?
Do you know who did that, and were they arrested and charged?
Nope.
So how can you be sure it was BLM protesters that did that?
So how can you be sure it was BLM protesters that did that?
This is a small town, we don't have arson every day.
When BLM is burning buildings and police cars all over the USA, then they come to our park and leave with it in flames, I choose reality over
political correctness.
This is also a Democrat town. We do what's politically correct I guess, and in this case that involves turning our backs on the city's poorest children in favor of BLM, all because of George Floyd & his stupid fake $20.
"In Binghamton, hundreds of protesters march in solidarity with Rochester activists"
The longer these riots and arsons go on, the more people bail out of the leftist deomcrat cities where they are happening.
BLM came to my town, destroyed a few things, and now they're long gone. AT>The damage they did here was only $750,000 but we are a small town and the AT>repairs have not even begun. (BLM destroyed city property back on August
2nd.) I think that when Black Lives Matter destroys city property, they AT>should lose their right to protest in that city. After all, people lose AT>their right to own guns at certain points in their lives, so other rights AT>should be used as leverage too.
On 11 Sep 20 20:43:00, Tim Richardson said the following to Aaron Thomas:
The longer these riots and arsons go on, the more people bail out of the leftist deomcrat cities where they are happening.
Everyone cannot see that the longer the riots go on, the more its an NA>advertisement to vote for Trump. The average American does not want NA>violence and mayhem in their country, they want peace and all of this NA>nonsense to stop. Especially when a so-called peaceful protestor is shown NA>helping themselves to a flat-screen TV all in the name of "systemic NA>racism". Nick
On 11 Sep 20 20:43:00, Tim Richardson said the following to Aaron Thomas:
The longer these riots and arsons go on, the more people bail out of the leftist deomcrat cities where they are happening.
Everyone cannot see that the longer the riots go on, the more its an NA>advertisement to vote for Trump. The average American does not want NA>violence and mayhem in their country, they want peace and all of this NA>nonsense to stop. Especially when a so-called peaceful protestor is shown NA>helping themselves to a flat-screen TV all in the name of "systemic NA>racism". Nick
"In Binghamton, hundreds of protesters march in solidarity with Rochester activists"
Nothing seems to have been destroyed this time. I'm happy about that. Why AT>couldn't BLM behave like these Binghamton protesters?
I know a lilttle bit about Bingamton, NY. My two older sons live in the are Its not a place that would just stand by and see their businesses looted an
I know a lilttle bit about Bingamton, NY. My two older sons live in the are Its not a place that would just stand by and see their businesses looted an
We didn't have any reason for racial division prior to Joe Biden's good fri George Floyd. But now Joe "they ain't black" Biden and his buddies in the media are stirring the pot of hatred and distrust.
Really, BS? Tell that to Trayvon Martin, Breonna Taylor and Ahmaud Arbrey. Oh, I guess you can't. They got shot and killed simply for
being in the wrong place at the wrong time. The first and last were
shot by vigilanties who just did not think that they belonged in the neighborhood.
Dale Shipp
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On 09-17-20 14:32, Gregory Deyss <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: It is what it is <=-
Really, BS? Tell that to Trayvon Martin, Breonna Taylor and Ahmaud Arbrey. Oh, I guess you can't. They got shot and killed simply for
being in the wrong place at the wrong time. The first and last were
shot by vigilanties who just did not think that they belonged in the neighborhood.
Each and everyone of your examples are really poor examples on your
part as they do not prove you case, in-fact they prove my point.
Trayvon Martin died as a result for getting into a fight and tried to
take the gun from George Zimmerman. It's not like Trayvon Martin got
shot for just walking down the street.
Breonna Taylor
Officers did have a warrant for Walker who the police had reason to believe was dealing drugs. He meaning (walker) opened fire first,
shooting and injuring officer, John Mattingly, who required surgery. Taylor was shot in the crossfire.
Ahmaud Arbery
On February 23, 2020, Ahmaud Marquez Arbery, an unarmed 25-year-old African-American man, was pursued and fatally shot while jogging near Brunswick in Glynn County, Georgia. Arbery had been pursued by three
white residents-Travis McMichael and his father Gregory, who were armed and driving a pickup truck, and William "Roddie" Bryan, who followed Arbery in a second vehicle-and was confronted and fatally shot by
Travis McMichael.
See all three proves my point, they were not gunned down by Police.
Blacks die by the hundreds each and every weekend on the Southside of Chicago, where is your outrage about that?
I know a lilttle bit about Bingamton, NY. My two older sons live in the
are TR> Its not a place that would just stand by and see their businesses
We didn't have any reason for racial division prior to Joe
Biden's good friend George Floyd. But now Joe "they ain't black" Biden and AT>his buddies in the media are stirring the pot of hatred and distrust.
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