I ran through the directions to get this installed, similar to the other DD plugins, and I have noticed that before the matrix window clears the screen, the
answer.msg file is being read in and displaying the old-style login prompt and procedure. It was my impression that the answer file would only be displayed if the user's terminal did not support ANSI.

Has anyone else encountered this, or watched the screen close enough to notice the flicker from their answer file's banner*.msg screens to the matrix screen? Had this been a dial-up connection, the user would have felt like they were
getting 2 sets of instructions to log in with.
For a low vision user like myself, I have to pay attention to everything, no matter how insignificant. My screen reader also does not discriminate on what it reds, so each time I log in via telnet and get the matrix login, it reads
the answer.msg file and displays one of the 4 banner*.msg files.
I realize this is a 0.01% of people impacted, but I thought I'd ask before I go diving into someone else's code and see if I can pinpoint the ANSI detection process, move that in front of any answer or theme display so it's an either-or
instead of both.
Greatly appreciate those of you smart enough to be writing the code for these programs and plugins.

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Re: Synchronet with Digital Distortion Logon Matrix plugin
By: Winzlo to All on Wed Apr 29 2026 03:07 pm

I ran through the directions to get this installed, similar to the other DD plugins, and I have noticed that before the matrix window clears the screen, the
answer.msg file is being read in and displaying the old-style login prompt and procedure. It was my impression that the answer file would only be displayed if the user's terminal did not support ANSI.

My answer.msg is empty - I don't remember specifically why, but I highly suspect I made it empty so that nothing would be displayed before my login matrix.

Nightfox

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Re: Synchronet with Digital Distortion Logon Matrix plugin
By: Nightfox to Winzlo on Wed Apr 29 2026 01:31 pm

Ok, that makes sense, and why doing the same worked here. I'm going to take this a step further and see if I can use conditional codes to only display answer.msg if ANSI is not detected. That popped into my head tonight as a reverse-logic approach.

Thanks,

-Winzlo

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Re: Synchronet with Digital Distortion Logon Matrix plugin
By: Winzlo to Nightfox on Thu Apr 30 2026 12:06 am

Wi> Ok, that makes sense, and why doing the same worked here. I'm going to

What makes sense? It would help if you quote what you're replying to in order to help people follow the conversation.

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Re: Synchronet with Digital Distortion Logon Matrix plugin
By: Nightfox to Winzlo on Thu Apr 30 2026 09:03 am

What makes sense? It would help if you quote what you're replying to in

order to help people follow the conversation.
Claficfication that it makes sense to empty answer.msg to resolve the dual login screen issue. However, in my mind this feels like a sacrifice and not a solution, so I'm continuing to evaluate ways to show answer.msg, but only when the matrix would not ordinarily display (i.e !ANSI)

PS. I'd also like to find a way to avoid the dual map of ^Q between ICEEdit and SyncTERM. SyncTERM always seems to win, so ^Q prompts me to quit instead of quote. That's why I didn't quote the last one, and had to manually select/copy/paste to quote for this message.

-Winzlo

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Re: Synchronet with Digital Distortion Logon Matrix plugin
By: Winzlo to Nightfox on Thu Apr 30 2026 12:24 pm

PS. I'd also like to find a way to avoid the dual map of ^Q between ICEEdit and SyncTERM. SyncTERM always seems to win, so ^Q prompts me to quit instead of quote. That's why I didn't quote the last one, and had to manually select/copy/paste to quote for this message.

It sounds like you're running SyncTERM in some weird video mode (ANSI or curses?) where Ctrl-Q would prompt to exit SyncTERM. That's not the norm - control key combinations are normally sent to the server/BBS.
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Re: Synchronet with Digital Distortion Logon Matrix plugin
By: Winzlo to Nightfox on Thu Apr 30 2026 12:24 pm

Claficfication that it makes
sense to empty answer.msg to resolve the dual login screen issue. However, in my mind this feels like a sacrifice and not a solution

How does it feel like a sacrifice? I'm not sure what other way there is to get rid of that text.

PS. I'd also like to find a way to avoid the dual map of ^Q between ICEEdit and SyncTERM. SyncTERM always seems to win, so ^Q prompts me to quit instead of quote. That's why I didn't quote the last one, and had to manually select/copy/paste to quote for this message.

For SlyEdit, go into the user settings (Ctrl-U) and disable the "Ctrl-Q to quote" option, and then it will use Ctrl-Y instead to quote. Or you can type /q on an empty line and press Enter to quote.

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