Hello MRO!

** On Saturday 16.05.20 - 19:26, mro wrote to Ogg:

That was pretty good. I wasn't aware that there once was a Google BBS
Tunnel thing around. I thought I was looking at a Lynx/Links type of

it was a joke.

The couple of servers that I found clearly announced the "server is down"
and not produce any results in the current window, but it would redirect
you to the real google if you clicked on any of the suggestions.

As it sits now, it's pretty stupid to operate a google bbs tunnel while having a website open. But I would find it more interesting if there was such an ansi door after telnetting to a bbs.

I like the statement "In a world of internet snooping, a BBS is
probably one of the last bastions of digital privacy".

eh, i wouldnt say we have privacy on bbses. infact, this very
conversation is being cached many times over. depends on how many bbses
are on the web and allow viewing the msg subs without signing in.

WRT privacy, it is more about the lack of telemetry, trackers and ads that bbsing/nntp/qwk is immune to as opposed to when using the www directly.

the fbi shows up to any sysops house they are gonna give up any
information they ask for i would assume.

And why would any sysop be worried about the fbi these days? ;)

In the past, dialup bbses may have been targets of distributing warez or certain pr0n and gained a bad reputation because of a handful of systems.
I remember reading about a few of those that were caught with violating copyright to playboy or something like that.

But today.. I would think that the fbi would have far greater fishes to
fry than harrasing a bbs operation somewhere or perusing "public" ftn/qwk/ nntp messages.

It almost sounds like a sickness to be so obsessed with collecting every
byte passing throught the internet.


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Re: /Google BBS Tunnel
By: Ogg to DOVE-Net.Internet on Sun May 17 2020 02:30 pm

the fbi shows up to any sysops house they are gonna give up any information they ask for i would assume.

And why would any sysop be worried about the fbi these days? ;)

if they are doing illegal activity. for example there is one sysop who posts here who is a pedophile.

he got caught posting shit on irc and got banned from the server. 10 years later he comes back like nothing happened.
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Re: /Google BBS Tunnel
By: Ogg to DOVE-Net.Internet on Sun May 17 2020 02:30 pm

Hello MRO!
** On Saturday 16.05.20 - 19:26, mro wrote to Ogg:

the fbi shows up to any sysops house they are gonna give up any
information they ask for i would assume.

And why would any sysop be worried about the fbi these days? ;)
In the past, dialup bbses may have been targets of distributing warez or certain pr0n and gained a bad reputation because of a handful of systems. I remember reading about a few of those that were caught with violating copyright to playboy or something like that.
But today.. I would think that the fbi would have far greater fishes to fry than harrasing a bbs operation somewhere or perusing "public" ftn/qwk/ nntp messages.
It almost sounds like a sickness to be so obsessed with collecting every byte passing throught the internet.

Agreed, and it is sick that in the later 90s they rounded up those kids like that... late in the BBS scene, the fbi cracked down on a bunch of boards, like OG just stated..

They should have been making sure them boys (and girls) were getting their SATs turned in because they were fixing to have a long career.

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Re: /Google BBS Tunnel
By: MRO to Ogg on Sun May 17 2020 02:44 pm

if they are doing illegal activity. for example there is one sysop who posts here who is a pedophile.

sos

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Re: /Google BBS Tunnel
By: paulie420 to Ogg on Mon May 18 2020 01:01 am

Agreed, and it is sick that in the later 90s they rounded up those kids like that... late in the BBS scene, the fbi cracked down on a bunch of boards, li OG just stated..

They should have been making sure them boys (and girls) were getting their S turned in because they were fixing to have a long career.

what about poor rusty and eddie? that old couple couldnt hurt a fly
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Re: /Google BBS Tunnel
By: MRO to paulie420 on Mon May 18 2020 06:19 pm

Re: /Google BBS Tunnel
By: paulie420 to Ogg on Mon May 18 2020 01:01 am

Agreed, and it is sick that in the later 90s they rounded up those
kids like that... late in the BBS scene, the fbi cracked down on a
bunch of boards, li OG just stated..

They should have been making sure them boys (and girls) were getting
their S turned in because they were fixing to have a long career.

what about poor rusty and eddie? that old couple couldnt hurt a fly

There was a lot of stories right there at the end of BBSing... and while the names ring a bell, remind me of rusty and eddie.

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Re: /Google BBS Tunnel
By: Ogg to DOVE-Net.Internet on Sun May 17 2020 02:30 pm

It almost sounds like a sickness to be so obsessed with collecting every byte passing throught the internet.

It is a sickness. I knew a lot of guys that sucked BBS's dry of every bit and byte that had. They didn't use the software. They just stored it. Look at the Internet Archive. Where do you think all that stuff comes from? I would think it would be pretty cool for the FBI to show up at my place. I'd feel very important. ;-). I believe the FBI has better things to do other then chase BBS SysOps around. lol

HusTler
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Re: /Google BBS Tunnel
By: HusTler to Ogg on Tue May 19 2020 03:34 pm

It is a sickness. I knew a lot of guys that sucked BBS's dry of every bit and byte that had. They didn't use the software. They just stored it. Look at the Internet Archive. Where do you think all that stuff comes from? I would think it would be pretty cool for the FBI to show up at my place. I'd feel very important. ;-). I believe the FBI has better things to do other then chase BBS SysOps around. lol

When I ran my original BBS in the 90s, occasionally I'd get a caller who would email me saying they heard it's a warez BBS and asking me how to get access to the warez section. I never ran a warez BBS, so I was confused and wondering where they had heard that. But later I thought perhaps they were from the police or FBI or something looking for warez BBSes to crack down on.

Nightfox

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Re: /Google BBS Tunnel
By: Nightfox to HusTler on Tue May 19 2020 02:02 pm

Re: /Google BBS Tunnel
When I ran my original BBS in the 90s, occasionally I'd get a caller who would email me saying they heard it's a warez BBS and asking me how to get access to the warez section. I never ran a warez BBS, so I was confused and wondering where they had heard that. But later I thought perhaps they were from the police or FBI or something looking for warez BBSes to crack down on.

Nightfox

LOL, no..... that was like the first thing I asked every BBS before I got into the scene. Was just begging to find new wolenstein maps. :P

Those were just folks hoping to find some $$$ software man....

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Re: /Google BBS Tunnel
By: paulie420 to Nightfox on Tue May 19 2020 05:38 pm

When I ran my original BBS in the 90s, occasionally I'd get a caller
who would email me saying they heard it's a warez BBS and asking me
how to get access to the warez section. I never ran a warez BBS, so
I was confused and wondering where they had heard that. But later I
thought perhaps they were from the police or FBI or something
looking for warez BBSes to crack down on.

LOL, no..... that was like the first thing I asked every BBS before I got into the scene. Was just begging to find new wolenstein maps. :P

Those were just folks hoping to find some $$$ software man....

So did you assume all BBSes were warez BBSes and ask how to get warez access? :P

Nightfox

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Re: /Google BBS Tunnel
By: Nightfox to HusTler on Tue May 19 2020 02:02 pm

When I ran my original BBS in the 90s, occasionally I'd get a caller who would
email me saying they heard it's a warez BBS and asking me how to get access to
the warez section. I never ran a warez BBS, so I was confused and wondering

It was probably just a user looking for access to your "warez" section which is usually hidden until the SysOp grants the user access. It could have been the law but who knows. If someone asked me that question I told them they had to buy credits. That seemed to keep em honest. ;-)

HusTler
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Nightfox wrote to HusTler <=-

When I ran my original BBS in the 90s, occasionally I'd get a caller
who would email me saying they heard it's a warez BBS and asking me how
to get access to the warez section. I never ran a warez BBS, so I was confused and wondering where they had heard that. But later I thought perhaps they were from the police or FBI or something looking for warez BBSes to crack down on.

Yeah, my new user text file stated that there weren't any l337 files on my BBS. I'd still have callers ask "Yeah, sure -- but where are they?"

I used to have a "(e)lite" option on my files menu that didn't have a
hotkey, then later bound it to "hangup".


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Nightfox wrote to paulie420 <=-

So did you assume all BBSes were warez BBSes and ask how to get warez access? :P

Thinking back, there were some elite BBSes that had a whole facade up front, and once you were known, you'd get access to a whole different level of files/echoes/etc. But, to a first-time, non-verified caller, it looked like "Shareware Haven BBS".

The first time was like going down the rabbit hole.


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Re: /Google BBS Tunnel
By: HusTler to Ogg on Tue May 19 2020 03:34 pm

Re: /Google BBS Tunnel
By: Ogg to DOVE-Net.Internet on Sun May 17 2020 02:30 pm

It almost sounds like a sickness to be so obsessed with collecting every byte passing throught the internet.

It is a sickness. I knew a lot of guys that sucked BBS's dry of every bit byte that had. They didn't use the software. They just stored it. Look at th Internet Archive. Where do you think all that stuff comes from? I would thin it would be pretty cool for the FBI to show up at my place. I'd feel very important. ;-). I believe the FBI has better things to do other then chase B SysOps around. lol

that recovery team or whatever they call themselves at archive.org grabbed a bunch of my websites. even when it was still all running. i asked them to remove them. they told me in a sarcastic tone that i was the only guy.

i dont want someone taking my shit and preserving it. it's not worth preserving and it's my shit. they could have atleast asked. i know my stuff was open on the internet but still. there's a real person behind this ip address.
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Re: /Google BBS Tunnel
By: Nightfox to paulie420 on Tue May 19 2020 10:04 pm

Re: /Google BBS Tunnel

By: paulie420 to Nightfox on Tue May 19 2020 05:38 pm
So did you assume all BBSes were warez BBSes and ask how to get warez access? :P

Nightfox

lol, and 92% of them had access in menu #7, type 'Z'.... lolz.

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On 05-20-20 07:34, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Nightfox <=-

I used to have a "(e)lite" option on my files menu that didn't have a hotkey, then later bound it to "hangup".

LOL I love it! :D


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Re: Re: /Google BBS Tunnel
By: Vk3jed to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu May 21 2020 02:23 pm

On 05-20-20 07:34, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Nightfox <=-

I used to have a "(e)lite" option on my files menu that didn't have a hotkey, then later bound it to "hangup".

LOL I love it! :D

i had a sysop menu command and it did that when the user pressed it.
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Re: /Google BBS Tunnel
By: HusTler to Ogg on Tue May 19 2020 03:34 pm

It is a sickness. I knew a lot of guys that sucked BBS's dry of every bit and byte that had. They didn't use the software. They just stored it. Look at the Internet Archive. Where do you think all that stuff comes from? I would think it would be pretty cool for the FBI to show up at my place. I'd feel very important. ;-). I believe the FBI has better things to do other then chase BBS SysOps around. lol

When I ran my original BBS in the 90s, occasionally I'd get a caller who would email me saying they heard it's a warez BBS and asking me how to get access to the warez section. I never ran a warez BBS, so I was confused and wondering where they had heard that. But later I thought perhaps they were from the police or FBI or something looking for warez BBSes to crack down on.

Nightfox

I have a bunch of stories like that from back then ... had this dude sign up ask me to let him ul a bunch of files ... he did ... nasty stuff ... then he posted an telling people I had a pic collection ... deleted files and blocked him and the likes of that ever again ... no wonder I only have 3 useless files on my board since LOL

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Re: Re: /Google BBS Tunnel
By: Mortifis to Nightfox on Mon Jun 15 2020 12:28 pm

I have a bunch of stories like that from back then ... had this dude sign up ask me to let him ul a bunch of files ... he did ... nasty stuff ... then he posted an telling people I had a pic collection ... deleted files and blocked him and the likes of that ever again ... no wonder I only have 3 useless files on my board since LOL

:) In the early-mid 90s, there was a BBS user in my area who was apparently a photographer and was known for uploading big sets of his photographs to various BBSes in the area. I had downloaded a few of them from some BBSes, and I thought they weren't bad. He eventually called my BBS, and he emailed me and asked if it would be okay for him to upload sets of his photos (they weren't explicit or anything). I didn't really want it taking up a lot of space on my hard drive though.

Nightfox

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Hello Mortifis!

** On Monday 15.06.20 - 11:28, mortifis wrote to Nightfox:

I have a bunch of stories like that from back then ... had this dude
sign up ask me to let him ul a bunch of files ... he did ... nasty stuff
... then he posted an telling people I had a pic collection ... deleted
files and blocked him and the likes of that ever again ... no wonder I
only have 3 useless files on my board since LOL

I wouldn't be surprised if you were being set up for a sting operation.



../|ug

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Re: Re: /Google BBS Tunnel
By: Mortifis to Nightfox on Mon Jun 15 2020 12:28 pm

It is a sickness. I knew a lot of guys that sucked BBS's dry of

When I ran my original BBS in the 90s, occasionally I'd get a caller
who would email me saying they heard it's a warez BBS and asking me

up ask me to let him ul a bunch of files ... he did ... nasty stuff ... then he posted an telling people I had a pic collection ... deleted files and blocked him and the likes of that ever again ... no wonder I only have

I don't allow uploading. SysOps need to remember their are users out there that get thier kicks out of trying to crash a BBS, website or whatever. The more access you allow the higher the chances someone is going to "get in". Back in the day SysOps would test one anothers BBS trying to crash it.

HusTler
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Re: Re: /Google BBS Tunnel
By: HusTler to Mortifis on Mon Jun 15 2020 16:52:35

I don't allow uploading. SysOps need to remember their are users out there that get thier kicks out of trying to crash a BBS, website or whatever. The more access you allow the higher the chances someone is going to "get
in". Back in the day SysOps would test one anothers BBS trying to crash it.

this bright red you post in is really ugh...


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Re: Re: /Google BBS Tunnel
By: Mortifis to Nightfox on Mon Jun 15 2020 12:28 pm

I have a bunch of stories like that from back then ... had this dude sign up ask me to let him ul a bunch of files ... he did ... nasty stuff ... then he posted an telling people I had a pic collection ... deleted files and blocke him and the likes of that ever again ... no wonder I only have 3 useless fil on my board since LOL

i had a guy that called himself plastic. he would msg the kids in the doorgames and talk about how he liked to be wrapped in plastic. it was some sexual fetish.
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Re: Re: /Google BBS Tunnel
By: HusTler to Mortifis on Mon Jun 15 2020 04:52 pm

I don't allow uploading. SysOps need to remember their are users out there that get thier kicks out of trying to crash a BBS, website or whatever. The more access you allow the higher the chances someone is going to "get in". Back in the day SysOps would test one anothers BBS trying to crash it.

In my DOS / Telegard days, an unknowing sysop was just a PKZIP.BAT or PKUNZIP.BAT upload away from an empty harddrive - even by a standard validated user...

Worse yet, on some warez boards with newbie sysops, people would goto great lengths to change some warez game around and send USER.DAT back out to the user through some .COM file in a game...

Many ways that people could mess with boards without the right safegaurds in place. Renegade was much better, but them kids would get creative.

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