• Nice BBS/SyncTerm article in Raspberry Pi Tips, Tricks & Fixes

    From Paulie420@VERT/PAULIE42 to All on Wed May 13 11:19:48 2020
    Raspberry Pi Tips, Tricks & Fixes is a magazine I picked up last year, its listed as Volume 35 (Fall 2019).

    Its pretty cool, and goes over some basic RPi projects, Linux commands, Python, C++ and just a lot of basic RPi stuff...

    In the last section, Raspberry Pi and Beyond, it goes over some projects to do... the second to last one is Pi Projects: BBS Client.

    It's a two page article, and explains how to compile SyncTerm under Raspian on an RPi. It's written well, and certainly will get a user connecting to BBSes.

    For anyone wanting to read it, I think I've hosted the photos correctly:

    https://ibb.co/jW601ny

    https://ibb.co/M8zcMST

    I thought it was a pretty decent writeup, that had SyncTerm in it and did a good job of getting a newcomer into BBSes. I wish they'd of listed a telnet BBS directory, or Vertrauen Synchronet main BBS... but, ya get what ya get.

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Paulie420 on Wed May 13 12:45:44 2020
    Re: Nice BBS/SyncTerm article in Raspberry Pi Tips, Tricks & Fixes
    By: Paulie420 to All on Wed May 13 2020 11:19 am

    Raspberry Pi Tips, Tricks & Fixes is a magazine I picked up last year, its listed as Volume 35 (Fall 2019).

    Its pretty cool, and goes over some basic RPi projects, Linux commands, Python, C++ and just a lot of basic RPi stuff...

    In the last section, Raspberry Pi and Beyond, it goes over some projects to do... the second to last one is Pi Projects: BBS Client.

    It's a two page article, and explains how to compile SyncTerm under Raspian on an RPi. It's written well, and certainly will get a user connecting to BBSes.

    For anyone wanting to read it, I think I've hosted the photos correctly:

    https://ibb.co/jW601ny

    https://ibb.co/M8zcMST

    I thought it was a pretty decent writeup, that had SyncTerm in it and did a good job of getting a newcomer into BBSes. I wish they'd of listed a telnet BBS directory, or Vertrauen Synchronet main BBS... but, ya get what ya get.

    That's awesome! Much appreciate your bringing that to my (and Deuce's) attention!

    I couldn't find the magazine in stock anywhere to buy, but it is available for PDF-download from here: https://filecr.com/elearning/raspberry-pi-tips-tricks-fixed/

    digital man

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  • From Ogg@VERT/EOTLBBS to Paulie420 on Wed May 13 16:07:00 2020
    Hello Paulie420!

    ** On Wednesday 13.05.20 - 14:19, paulie420 wrote to All:

    Raspberry Pi Tips, Tricks & Fixes is a magazine I picked up last year, its listed as Volume 35 (Fall 2019).
    [snip]

    I thought it was a pretty decent writeup, that had SyncTerm in it and did a good job of getting a newcomer into BBSes. I wish they'd of listed a telnet BBS directory, or Vertrauen Synchronet main BBS... but, ya get what ya get.

    That was pretty good. I wasn't aware that there once was a Google BBS
    Tunnel thing around. I thought I was looking at a Lynx/Links type of
    browser display.

    I like the statement "In a world of internet snooping, a BBS is probably
    one of the last bastions of digital privacy".

    That is a "selling" point that sysops ought to promote.


    ../|ug

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  • From Paulie420@VERT/PAULIE42 to Digital Man on Wed May 13 12:58:38 2020
    Re: Nice BBS/SyncTerm article in Raspberry Pi Tips, Tricks & Fixes
    By: Digital Man to Paulie420 on Wed May 13 2020 12:45 pm

    Re: Nice BBS/SyncTerm article in Raspberry Pi Tips, Tricks & Fixes
    By: Paulie420 to All on Wed May 13 2020 11:19 am

    That's awesome! Much appreciate your bringing that to my (and Deuce's) attention!
    I couldn't find the magazine in stock anywhere to buy, but it is available for PDF-download from here: https://filecr.com/elearning/raspberry-pi-tips-tricks-fixed/

    digital man

    Yea, no worries.. I've had that magazine for a year or so and was just flipping thru it the other night. Aside from it suggesting the best, most current terminal software, it was a nice writeup that would steer users of Raspberry Pi's to BBSes. Very cool.

    In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the author of that particular article was someone out here in the BBS world.

    Glad that ya dug it, glad that I saw it. Cheers.

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Paulie420 on Wed May 13 21:30:52 2020
    Re: Nice BBS/SyncTerm article in Raspberry Pi Tips, Tricks & Fixes
    By: Paulie420 to All on Wed May 13 2020 11:19 am

    Raspberry Pi Tips, Tricks & Fixes is a magazine I picked up last year, its listed as Volume 35 (Fall 2019).


    I thought it was a pretty decent writeup, that had SyncTerm in it and did a good job of getting a newcomer into BBSes. I wish they'd of listed a telnet BBS directory, or Vertrauen Synchronet main BBS... but, ya get what ya get.

    They did link to The Telnet BBS List website, at least.

    DaiTengu

    ... It requires a very unusual mind to make an analysis of the obvious.

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Ogg on Wed May 13 21:34:05 2020
    Re: Re: Nice BBS/SyncTerm article in Raspberry Pi Tips, Tricks & Fixes
    By: Ogg to Paulie420 on Wed May 13 2020 04:07 pm

    I like the statement "In a world of internet snooping, a BBS is probably one of the last bastions of digital privacy".

    It's so not true, though. As a sysop I can see EVERYTHING a user does. I can read their private e-mail, if I want to (for the record, I do not want to).

    I can do all of this very easily. and it's mostly performed over telnet, which is an unencrypted communication method.

    DaiTengu

    ... The older you get, the more important is is not to act your age.

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  • From Paulie420@VERT/PAULIE42 to Ogg on Wed May 13 17:09:04 2020
    Re: Re: Nice BBS/SyncTerm article in Raspberry Pi Tips, Tricks & Fixes
    By: Ogg to Paulie420 on Wed May 13 2020 04:07 pm

    Hello Paulie420!

    ** On Wednesday 13.05.20 - 14:19, paulie420 wrote to All:
    Raspberry Pi Tips, Tricks & Fixes is a magazine I picked up last year,
    its listed as Volume 35 (Fall 2019).
    [snip]
    That was pretty good. I wasn't aware that there once was a Google BBS Tunnel thing around. I thought I was looking at a Lynx/Links type of browser display.

    I don't think that there was actually a Google BBS tunnel... I guess I could be wrong, but... anyway; let me know if you see or use that. I'd dig linking it to my BBS. :P Lol. I think that was just photoshop wizardry, not an actual service.

    I like the statement "In a world of internet snooping, a BBS is probably one of the last bastions of digital privacy".
    That is a "selling" point that sysops ought to promote.
    ../|ug

    I agree... and this is one of the reasons I love perusing the different message networks we have available to us. As much as I miss the 80s&90s when BBSing was pure and bleeding edge, I am super happy that we still have the protocols of... well, before protocols, at our disposal.

    Glad ya'll dug that little find of mine - I'm super happy that they linked Syncterm as opposed to some other crappier way of connecting. IMO, that article will get folks connected to BBSes the right way. I wish a larger publication would pick up boards. We're still kickin over here and all.. :P

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Ogg on Wed May 13 20:28:26 2020
    Re: Re: Nice BBS/SyncTerm article in Raspberry Pi Tips, Tricks & Fixes
    By: Ogg to Paulie420 on Wed May 13 2020 04:07 pm

    I like the statement "In a world of internet snooping, a BBS is probably one of the last bastions of digital privacy".

    That is a "selling" point that sysops ought to promote.

    Many BBSes these days have a web interface, so the messages are visible on the web, which isn't totally private. I suppose the best way around that would be for the sysop to disable web access to their BBS.

    Nightfox

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  • From Paulie420@VERT/PAULIE42 to DaiTengu on Wed May 13 21:04:43 2020
    Re: Re: Nice BBS/SyncTerm article in Raspberry Pi Tips, Tricks & Fixes
    By: DaiTengu to Ogg on Wed May 13 2020 09:34 pm

    I like the statement "In a world of internet snooping, a BBS is
    probably one of the last bastions of digital privacy".

    It's so not true, though. As a sysop I can see EVERYTHING a user does. I can read their private e-mail, if I want to (for the record, I do not want to).

    I can do all of this very easily. and it's mostly performed over telnet, which is an unencrypted communication method.

    DaiTengu

    Well, DaiTengu, I can appreciate where your going with this.. and while your statement is very true; and we could even go further; these BBS systems, especially since most are setup by sysops- like myself, I might add- that don't know much about the systems they run the software on top of- are mostly very weak from a security standpoint.

    However, I think the point is that unlike the social networks that are run by major corporations of the world, a sysop reading my information and getting a giggle out of me and someone I'm trying to speak privately to is NOT as bad as a google - that is taking that information and monetizing it.

    I think the reference to digital privacy is more about keeping said information out of the hands of those large corporations and less about some random sysop having the access. In that respect, BBSes do offer a form of privacy that is extinct in the current internet age.

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  • From Rampage@VERT/SESTAR to Nightfox on Thu May 14 06:19:05 2020
    Re: Re: Nice BBS/SyncTerm article in Raspberry Pi Tips, Tricks & Fixes
    By: Nightfox to Ogg on Wed May 13 2020 20:28:26


    Nightfox> Many BBSes these days have a web interface, so the messages are
    Nightfox> visible on the web, which isn't totally private. I suppose the
    Nightfox> best way around that would be for the sysop to disable web
    Nightfox> access to their BBS.

    or only allow logged in users to view the messages... that would eliminate the spiders and bots from scraping them...


    )\/(ark

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Rampage on Thu May 14 08:51:47 2020
    Re: Re: Nice BBS/SyncTerm article in Raspberry Pi Tips, Tricks & Fixes
    By: Rampage to Nightfox on Thu May 14 2020 06:19 am

    or only allow logged in users to view the messages... that would eliminate the spiders and bots from scraping them...

    I wonder if it's possible to configure ecwebv4 to do that.

    Nightfox

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Rampage on Thu May 14 08:28:00 2020
    Rampage wrote to Nightfox <=-

    or only allow logged in users to view the messages... that would
    eliminate the spiders and bots from scraping them...

    I've often thought we should make a campaign to urge defaults on web BBS software to limit access out of the box and to remind sysops to check their configs.


    ... Change nothing and continue consistently
    --- MultiMail/DOS v0.52
    þ Synchronet þ realitycheckBBS -- http://realitycheckBBS.org
  • From Rampage@VERT/SESTAR to Nightfox on Thu May 14 12:54:50 2020
    Re: Re: Nice BBS/SyncTerm article in Raspberry Pi Tips, Tricks & Fixes
    By: Nightfox to Rampage on Thu May 14 2020 08:51:47


    or only allow logged in users to view the messages... that would
    eliminate the spiders and bots from scraping them...

    Nightfox> I wonder if it's possible to configure ecwebv4 to do that.

    i would imagine that it would use the same thing that you would use on your BBS to prevent guests from reading the areas... maybe let them see the groups and the areas but not actually read any messages... depends on your style of prevention ;)


    )\/(ark

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Rampage on Thu May 14 14:57:57 2020
    Re: Re: Nice BBS/SyncTerm article in Raspberry Pi Tips, Tricks & Fixes
    By: Rampage to Nightfox on Thu May 14 2020 12:54 pm

    or only allow logged in users to view the messages... that would
    eliminate the spiders and bots from scraping them...

    Nightfox> I wonder if it's possible to configure ecwebv4 to do that.

    i would imagine that it would use the same thing that you would use on your BBS to prevent guests from reading the areas... maybe let them see the groups and the areas but not actually read any messages... depends on your style of prevention ;)

    It might. I'm just not sure if echicken has implemented that in ecwebv4.

    Nightfox

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  • From paulie420@VERT/PAULIE42 to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu May 14 16:56:04 2020
    Re: Re: Nice BBS/SyncTerm article in Raspberry Pi Tips, Tricks & Fixes
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Rampage on Thu May 14 2020 08:28 am

    Rampage wrote to Nightfox <=-

    or only allow logged in users to view the messages... that would
    eliminate the spiders and bots from scraping them...

    I've often thought we should make a campaign to urge defaults on web BBS software to limit access out of the box and to remind sysops to check their configs.

    Yes; I'm just now jumping into user levels and flag defaults because out of the box synchro is NEWUSER--> open to all.

    It'll be a quick fix, once I start to feel how sbbs uses the settings, but I used to remember Renegade at least having like 3 levels out of the box... no biggy, we just have to SET them... but yea.. I notice how open it is at first run.

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  • From Rampage@VERT/SESTAR to paulie420 on Fri May 15 09:51:24 2020
    Re: Re: Nice BBS/SyncTerm article in Raspberry Pi Tips, Tricks & Fixes
    By: paulie420 to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu May 14 2020 16:56:04


    I've often thought we should make a campaign to urge defaults on web
    BBS software to limit access out of the box and to remind sysops to
    check their configs.

    paulie420> Yes; I'm just now jumping into user levels and flag defaults
    paulie420> because out of the box synchro is NEWUSER--> open to all.

    new users are one thing... guests are another... anonymous access via web server is done with the guest account... no guest account, no access for unregistered visitors but one can also have a guest account with restrictions...

    for example, some systems might allow guests to play door games while others might let guests see the door games list but not play any of them... the same goes for message groups and areas as well as the file libraries and they areas they contain...


    )\/(ark

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  • From paulie420@VERT/PAULIE42 to Rampage on Fri May 15 17:59:18 2020
    Re: Re: Nice BBS/SyncTerm article in Raspberry Pi Tips, Tricks & Fixes
    By: Rampage to paulie420 on Fri May 15 2020 09:51 am

    Re: Re: Nice BBS/SyncTerm article in Raspberry Pi Tips, Tricks & Fixes
    By: paulie420 to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu May 14 2020 16:56:04

    I've often thought we should make a campaign to urge defaults on
    web BBS software to limit access out of the box and to remind
    sysops to check their configs.

    paulie420> Yes; I'm just now jumping into user levels and flag defaults paulie420> because out of the box synchro is NEWUSER--> open to all.

    new users are one thing... guests are another... anonymous access via web server is done with the guest account... no guest account, no access for unregistered visitors but one can also have a guest account with restrictions...

    for example, some systems might allow guests to play door games while others might let guests see the door games list but not play any of them... the same goes for message groups and areas as well as the file libraries and they areas they contain...


    )\/(ark

    Is there really any negative consequences of not having a guest account? digital man and the synchronet guys have historically always said its smart to have a guest account - but I never did with other softwares. I thought that 'it is smart' because of some synchro needs or something; but the deeper I get into the software I think its just preference. I may do away with it altogether.

    And, I like my new users to have access to local message bases and the main file section; not FTN/QWK messages nor special file areas... even after a simple email registration, QWK/FTN are ok - but the files come one step after...

    The email thing is hard for me, cause Xfinity blocks port 25 and I typed all the vert-linking stuff in to no avail; YET. :P I'll get it...

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to paulie420 on Sat May 16 15:30:00 2020
    On 05-15-20 17:59, paulie420 wrote to Rampage <=-

    Is there really any negative consequences of not having a guest
    account? digital man and the synchronet guys have historically always
    said its smart to have a guest account - but I never did with other softwares. I thought that 'it is smart' because of some synchro needs
    or something; but the deeper I get into the software I think its just preference. I may do away with it altogether.

    If you want to offer anymous FTP or other services that don't require BBS login, then disabling the guest account can cause problems.

    And, I like my new users to have access to local message bases and the main file section; not FTN/QWK messages nor special file areas... even after a simple email registration, QWK/FTN are ok - but the files come
    one step after...

    These days, with files everywhere on the Internet, I'm more inclined to restrict access to message posting than files, unless one is offering something really unique to download.

    The email thing is hard for me, cause Xfinity blocks port 25 and I
    typed all the vert-linking stuff in to no avail; YET. :P I'll get it...

    You might have to resort to a VPN with a static IP, if all else fails. :)


    ... It's all more or less the same.. but it's all different now.
    --- MultiMail/Win v0.51
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to paulie420 on Fri May 15 23:16:25 2020
    Re: Re: Nice BBS/SyncTerm article in Raspberry Pi Tips, Tricks & Fixes
    By: paulie420 to Rampage on Fri May 15 2020 05:59 pm

    Is there really any negative consequences of not having a guest account? digital man and the synchronet guys have historically always said its smart to have a guest account - but I never did with other softwares. I

    If you disable your guest account, one thing is that people won't be able to download from your BBS using FTP links you might send out if they don't log in.

    Nightfox

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Paulie420 on Sat May 16 09:00:00 2020
    Rampage wrote to paulie420 <=-

    paulie420> Yes; I'm just now jumping into user levels and flag
    defaults
    paulie420> because out of the box synchro is NEWUSER--> open to all.

    new users are one thing... guests are another... anonymous access via
    web server is done with the guest account... no guest account, no
    access for unregistered visitors but one can also have a guest account with restrictions...

    for example, some systems might allow guests to play door games while others might let guests see the door games list but not play any of them... the same goes for message groups and areas as well as the file libraries and they areas they contain...

    Yes, to Mark's point, I let guests see my local areas. I'm not concerned
    about Google getting to them. Any networked area requires authenticated access.


    ... XT or AT, it makes a big difference.
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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to paulie420 on Sat May 16 09:01:00 2020
    paulie420 wrote to Rampage <=-


    Is there really any negative consequences of not having a guest
    account?

    I'm not sure how the web server would behave, and you wouldn't be able to do anonymous FTP.


    ... The exception also declares the rule
    --- MultiMail/DOS v0.52
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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Vk3jed on Sat May 16 09:03:00 2020
    Vk3jed wrote to paulie420 <=-

    The email thing is hard for me, cause Xfinity blocks port 25 and I
    typed all the vert-linking stuff in to no avail; YET. :P I'll get it...

    You might have to resort to a VPN with a static IP, if all else fails.
    :)

    I've used services over the years to get around port restrictions. They act
    as your primary MX, then contact your server on a non-standard (non-blocked) port.


    ... Discover your formulas and abandon them
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Ogg on Sat May 16 18:26:50 2020
    Re: Re: Nice BBS/SyncTerm article in Raspberry Pi Tips, Tricks & Fixes
    By: Ogg to Paulie420 on Wed May 13 2020 04:07 pm

    That was pretty good. I wasn't aware that there once was a Google BBS Tunnel thing around. I thought I was looking at a Lynx/Links type of

    it was a joke.

    I like the statement "In a world of internet snooping, a BBS is probably one of the last bastions of digital privacy".


    eh, i wouldnt say we have privacy on bbses. infact, this very conversation is being cached many times over. depends on how many bbses are on the web and allow viewing the msg subs without signing in.

    the fbi shows up to any sysops house they are gonna give up any information they ask for i would assume.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat May 16 18:28:07 2020
    Re: Re: Nice BBS/SyncTerm article in Raspberry Pi Tips, Tricks & Fixes
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Rampage on Thu May 14 2020 08:28 am

    Rampage wrote to Nightfox <=-

    or only allow logged in users to view the messages... that would eliminate the spiders and bots from scraping them...

    I've often thought we should make a campaign to urge defaults on web BBS software to limit access out of the box and to remind sysops to check their configs.


    you can just do a feature request to rob
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to paulie420 on Sat May 16 18:29:25 2020
    Re: Re: Nice BBS/SyncTerm article in Raspberry Pi Tips, Tricks & Fixes
    By: paulie420 to Rampage on Fri May 15 2020 05:59 pm

    Is there really any negative consequences of not having a guest account? digital man and the synchronet guys have historically always said its smart have a guest account - but I never did with other softwares. I thought that is smart' because of some synchro needs or something; but the deeper I get i


    people with guest accounts login, visit for 2 seconds and never come back.

    it's not smart. people should sign up if they are using services.
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  • From paulie420@VERT/PAULIE42 to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat May 16 15:03:17 2020
    Re: Re: Nice BBS/SyncTerm article in Raspberry Pi Tips, Tricks & Fixes
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Paulie420 on Sat May 16 2020 09:00 am

    Rampage wrote to paulie420 <=-

    paulie420> Yes; I'm just now jumping into user levels and flag
    defaults
    paulie420> because out of the box synchro is NEWUSER--> open to all.

    Yes, to Mark's point, I let guests see my local areas. I'm not concerned about Google getting to them. Any networked area requires authenticated access.

    I have to look into it... I want new users to have local bases, validated users to have local & nets... and higher access for hpavc content.

    Sure it'll be easy, but since there was no presets at install I have nothing as of current.

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  • From paulie420@VERT/PAULIE42 to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat May 16 15:04:38 2020
    Re: Re: Nice BBS/SyncTerm article in Raspberry Pi Tips, Tricks & Fixes
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to paulie420 on Sat May 16 2020 09:01 am

    paulie420 wrote to Rampage <=-


    Is there really any negative consequences of not having a guest
    account?

    I'm not sure how the web server would behave, and you wouldn't be able to do anonymous FTP.

    I get it -- at the current, I'm only interested in telnet/ssh BBS facing content. So won't affect me, as I don't use FTP; sure, maybe I should... who wants to download slower, with Zmodem??

    Aside from me; lol... I'm a sucker for BBS ways.

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  • From Ogg@VERT/EOTLBBS to All on Sun May 17 00:57:00 2020
    Hello Nightfox!

    ** On Wednesday 13.05.20 - 23:28, nightfox wrote to Ogg:

    I like the statement "In a world of internet snooping, a BBS is probably Og>> one of the last bastions of digital privacy".

    That is a "selling" point that sysops ought to promote.

    Many BBSes these days have a web interface, so the messages are visible
    on the web, which isn't totally private. I suppose the best way around
    that would be for the sysop to disable web access to their BBS.

    By digital privacy, I and the article are referring to the information
    being tracker-free, telemetry-free and ad-free.

    I think you would be hardpressed to find a copy of this message with a
    simple google search.

    Sure, some of these messages are in-the-clear on webified versions of this echo, but a google search isn't going to reveal them very readily.

    The experience is unlike having Facebook open and browsing the web at the same time. If I am visiting different things with my browser, Facebook
    will often display seemingly related ads in the sidebar! I consider that
    an invasion of my private activity.

    But reading this echo will not trigger info to Facebook or slow down my internet use while trackers are busy logging everything.


    ../|ug

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ End Of The Line BBS - endofthelinebbs.com
  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun May 17 14:14:00 2020
    On 05-16-20 09:03, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    You might have to resort to a VPN with a static IP, if all else fails.
    :)

    I've used services over the years to get around port restrictions. They act as your primary MX, then contact your server on a non-standard (non-blocked) port.

    There's several around. I'm using a VPN, because I needed extra IPv4 addresses, not just SMTP forwarding. :)


    ... The city is not a concrete jungle. It is a human zoo.
    --- MultiMail/Win v0.51
    þ Synchronet þ Freeway BBS, Bendigo Australia. freeway.apana.org.au
  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Ogg on Sun May 17 01:00:33 2020
    Re: Re: Nice BBS/SyncTerm article in Raspberry Pi Tips, Tricks & Fixes
    By: Ogg to All on Sun May 17 2020 12:57 am

    By digital privacy, I and the article are referring to the information being tracker-free, telemetry-free and ad-free.

    I think you would be hardpressed to find a copy of this message with a simple google search.


    hey, a lot of synchronet bbses have their web interface showing msg subs to the public.

    so it would be pretty easy to find our msgs in a simple google search. you might even see 20 or so different bbses showing the same results.
    ---
    þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::
  • From Rampage@VERT/SESTAR to Ogg on Sun May 17 08:41:22 2020
    Re: Re: Nice BBS/SyncTerm article in Raspberry Pi Tips, Tricks & Fixes
    By: Ogg to All on Sun May 17 2020 00:57:00


    I think you would be hardpressed to find a copy of this message with a simple google search.

    give it time ;)

    you might want to bookmark this search and check it every once in a while over the next days/weeks...

    https://www.google.com/search?q="would+be+hardpressed+to+find+a+copy+of+this+message"

    shorter versions of the above do currently return some results but given some time, the above will return your message...


    )\/(ark

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ The SouthEast Star Mail HUB - SESTAR
  • From Jon Justvig@VERT/STEPPING to MRO on Sun May 17 11:46:23 2020
    Re: Re: Nice BBS/SyncTerm article in Raspberry Pi Tips, Tricks & Fixes
    By: MRO to Ogg on Sun May 17 2020 01:00 am

    Re: Re: Nice BBS/SyncTerm article in Raspberry Pi Tips, Tricks & Fixes
    By: Ogg to All on Sun May 17 2020 12:57 am

    hey, a lot of synchronet bbses have their web interface showing msg subs to the public.

    so it would be pretty easy to find our msgs in a simple google search. you might even see 20 or so different bbses showing the same results.

    As the song goes... "...is there anybody out there?" -- Pink Floyd

    -cr1mson

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Stepping Stone BBS -- steppingstonebbs.com
  • From Ogg@VERT/EOTLBBS to Rampage on Sun May 17 13:49:00 2020
    Hello Rampage!

    ** On Sunday 17.05.20 - 08:41, rampage wrote to Ogg:

    I think you would be hardpressed to find a copy of this message with a Ogg>> simple google search.

    give it time ;)

    you might want to bookmark this search and check it every once in a while over the next days/weeks...

    https://www.google.com/search?q="would+be+hardpressed+to+find+a+copy+of+th is+message"

    Nah.. Not gonna wait for it.

    Prove it to me with a slightly OLDER message. ;)


    shorter versions of the above do currently return some results but given
    some time, the above will return your message...

    Interesting. But are Dovenet messages showing up now? Google already tailors search results based on previous results. So, the results can be differnet from user to user.

    And.. by using google, you are probably assisting them by giving them a
    heads up on the thing that you are looking for - which they track.



    ../|ug

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ End Of The Line BBS - endofthelinebbs.com
  • From Rampage@VERT/SESTAR to Ogg on Sun May 17 16:40:25 2020
    Re: Re: Nice BBS/SyncTerm article in Raspberry Pi Tips, Tricks & Fixes
    By: Ogg to Rampage on Sun May 17 2020 13:49:00


    Rampage>> shorter versions of the above do currently return some results but given
    Rampage>> some time, the above will return your message...

    Interesting. But are Dovenet messages showing up now?

    yes, they have been for years...

    here're the results for one specific system... you can try others, as well...

    https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Asestar.synchro.net+dovenet


    )\/(ark

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ The SouthEast Star Mail HUB - SESTAR
  • From The Lizard Master@VERT/NITEEYES to Nightfox on Sun May 17 11:56:08 2020
    Re: Re: Nice BBS/SyncTerm article in Raspberry Pi Tips, Tricks & Fixes
    By: Nightfox to Ogg on Wed May 13 2020 08:28 pm

    I like the statement "In a world of internet snooping, a BBS is probably one of the last bastions of digital privacy".

    That is a "selling" point that sysops ought to promote.

    Many BBSes these days have a web interface, so the messages are visible on the web, which isn't totally private. I suppose the best way around that would be for the sysop to disable web access to their BBS.

    And never post on a message exchanged sub.

    ---TLM

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Nite Eyes BBS - To make people happy about my tagline everywhere...
  • From Ogg@VERT/EOTLBBS to Rampage on Mon May 18 16:37:00 2020
    Hello Rampage!

    ** On Sunday 17.05.20 - 16:40, rampage wrote to Ogg:

    Interesting. But are Dovenet messages showing up now?

    yes, they have been for years...

    here're the results for one specific system... you can try others, as
    well...

    https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Asestar.synchro.net+dovenet

    NOTED! :/ That's if you know where to start looking, ie: EStar or a
    synchro board. Apparently that would start narrowing things down for the sleuth.

    Also, google *did* find something when I used "synchronet" and "ogg":

    web.synchro.net > ... From Ogg@3:640/1321 to All on Thu Dec 5 11:12:10
    2019. Just checking if tzutc is present and what other kludges might be
    present in a message from the land

    ...BUT, clicking on the link produced a blank Vertrauen web-forum page.

    Anyway.. apparently there is another Ogg that shows up in some of my searches, but that is not me. ;)

    BUT.. I think you would be hard-pressed to find anything by *just* using phrase + username, for example. That was my point.

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ End Of The Line BBS - endofthelinebbs.com
  • From Ogg@VERT/EOTLBBS to All on Mon May 18 17:06:00 2020
    Hello Paulie420!

    ** On Thursday 14.05.20 - 00:04, paulie420 wrote to DaiTengu:

    It's so not true, though. As a sysop I can see EVERYTHING a user does. I Da>> can read their private e-mail, if I want to (for the record, I do not
    want to).

    I can do all of this very easily. and it's mostly performed over telnet, Da>> which is an unencrypted communication method.

    Well, DaiTengu, I can appreciate where your going with this.. and
    [snip]

    However, I think the point is that unlike the social networks that are
    run by major corporations of the world, a sysop reading my information
    and getting a giggle out of me and someone I'm trying to speak
    privately to is NOT as bad as a google - that is taking that
    information and monetizing it.

    +1 It's the monetization, tracking and/or future exploitation that google would certainly like to entertain themselves with.

    I am really getting at my wits end with Facebook lately. I was expecting
    a Messenger reply from someone. So, I start to load FB, and the little Messenger icon/bubble indicates that I *do* have 1 message waiting.
    Great. That notification is one of the things that populates quickly.
    So.. I decided to click [X] to stop the rest of the page loading; I was
    not interested in the ads or the My Stories or the tracking activity and other shit. But after that, I could not load the full Messenger panel!
    The only way I could get the privilege of reading Messenger posts was if I left the whole effen ad panel to load.

    If I could steer my friends to use just email or even a message via a BBS, that would be *much* better, IMHO.


    I think the reference to digital privacy is more about keeping said information out of the hands of those large corporations and less
    about some random sysop having the access. In that respect, BBSes do
    offer a form of privacy that is extinct in the current internet age.

    +1 I don't know if I should bother keeping the FB account. They just started adding "Rooms" and "Video" (akin to Zoom?) features. All those annoucements use up extra data that I would rather not waste on FB!

    What *really* should be happening is, that if FB wants to retain me as a user, they should be crediting my bank account or my ISP account in proportion to how much data I'm streaming off *their* site.

    The public is just blindly carrying on and giving places like FB all our information for nothing but it should be for $omething.

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ End Of The Line BBS - endofthelinebbs.com
  • From Ogg@VERT/EOTLBBS to Paulie420 on Mon May 18 17:21:00 2020
    Hello Paulie420!

    ** On Wednesday 13.05.20 - 20:09, paulie420 wrote to Ogg:

    That was pretty good. I wasn't aware that there once was a Google BBS
    Tunnel thing around. I thought I was looking at a Lynx/Links type of
    browser display.

    I don't think that there was actually a Google BBS tunnel... I guess I could be wrong, but... anyway; let me know if you see or use that. I'd
    dig linking it to my BBS. :P Lol. I think that was just photoshop
    wizardry, not an actual service.

    According to what I found, there *was* a webified type of thing (like fTelnet) that looked like a google search page but in ascii/colour.

    But, IMHO it is stupid to operate such a thing as a service on a webpage.
    A search engine tool like that would be best as door on a BBS.


    Glad ya'll dug that little find of mine - I'm super happy that they
    linked Syncterm as opposed to some other crappier way of connecting.
    IMO, that article will get folks connected to BBSes the right way. I
    wish a larger publication would pick up boards. We're still kickin
    over here and all.. :P

    Syncterm is probably the only choice that will work with computers Win7
    and up. Personally, I wanted to stick with Netrunner (I like it's
    rescalable feature by simply dragging the edges or corner.) It works well
    in my XP pc.

    But I am forced to use Syncterm on my Win7 pc - and resizing is a bit
    techy requiring to experiment with picking the font size and numbers. Syncterm does not seem to retain my settings the next time I load it. :(

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ End Of The Line BBS - endofthelinebbs.com
  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Ogg on Mon May 18 18:24:29 2020
    Re: Re: Nice BBS/SyncTerm article in Raspberry Pi Tips, Tricks & Fixes
    By: Ogg to Paulie420 on Mon May 18 2020 05:21 pm

    Syncterm is probably the only choice that will work with computers Win7 and up. Personally, I wanted to stick with Netrunner (I like it's

    you can use mt32 [i still do], qodem, syncterm, netrunner [not a fan] and a few other ones i cant remember off the bat.

    you can even use dosbox and use an old school terminal program. that makes it fun sometimes.
    ---
    þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::
  • From Digital Man@VERT to Ogg on Mon May 18 17:45:38 2020
    Re: Re: Nice BBS/SyncTerm article in Raspberry Pi Tips, Tricks & Fixes
    By: Ogg to Paulie420 on Mon May 18 2020 05:21 pm

    But I am forced to use Syncterm on my Win7 pc - and resizing is a bit
    techy requiring to experiment with picking the font size and numbers. Syncterm does not seem to retain my settings the next time I load it. :(

    What version?

    digital man

    Sling Blade quote #19:
    Doyle: I can't so much as drink a damn glass of water around a midget
    Norco, CA WX: 64.6øF, 75.0% humidity, 0 mph ESE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
  • From paulie420@VERT/PAULIE42 to Ogg on Mon May 18 18:13:30 2020
    Re: Re: Nice BBS/SyncTerm article in Raspberry Pi Tips, Tricks & Fixes
    By: Ogg to All on Mon May 18 2020 05:06 pm

    Hello Paulie420!

    ** On Thursday 14.05.20 - 00:04, paulie420 wrote to DaiTengu:
    I think the reference to digital privacy is more about keeping said
    information out of the hands of those large corporations and less
    about some random sysop having the access. In that respect, BBSes do
    offer a form of privacy that is extinct in the current internet age.

    The public is just blindly carrying on and giving places like FB all our information for nothing but it should be for $omething.

    What I'd prefer, as an alternative, is paying $10/mo for a totally ad-free track-free everything-free Facebook. Just let me pay, because the service, content and amount of people on it are valuable, for the service that I use.

    And leave me out of all the algorithmn bullshit.

    |08Paulie|15420
    |15M|08@|15STERM|07i|15ND
    |14AmericanPiBBS|04.com|07

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ >>>American Pi BBS @ AmericanPiBBS.com:23>>>Rockin like its 1993!>>>
  • From paulie420@VERT/PAULIE42 to Ogg on Mon May 18 18:15:36 2020
    Re: Re: Nice BBS/SyncTerm article in Raspberry Pi Tips, Tricks & Fixes
    By: Ogg to Paulie420 on Mon May 18 2020 05:21 pm

    Hello Paulie420!
    According to what I found, there *was* a webified type of thing (like fTelnet) that looked like a google search page but in ascii/colour.

    But, IMHO it is stupid to operate such a thing as a service on a webpage. A search engine tool like that would be best as door on a BBS.

    I was just thinking that.. a menu item on your main menu would be really cool...

    (G)oogle Search

    and a text version like that photo in the magazine pops up. I would dig that, and think that it could be done fairly easily..
    I'm going to [try and] start learning JavaScript... being as I want to become proficient in SBBS and all... I bet a project like this would be simple enough and totally doable.

    |08Paulie|15420
    |15M|08@|15STERM|07i|15ND
    |14AmericanPiBBS|04.com|07

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ >>>American Pi BBS @ AmericanPiBBS.com:23>>>Rockin like its 1993!>>>
  • From paulie420@VERT/PAULIE42 to MRO on Mon May 18 18:17:30 2020
    Re: Re: Nice BBS/SyncTerm article in Raspberry Pi Tips, Tricks & Fixes
    By: MRO to Ogg on Mon May 18 2020 06:24 pm

    you can use mt32 [i still do], qodem, syncterm, netrunner [not a fan] and a few other ones i cant remember off the bat.

    you can even use dosbox and use an old school terminal program. that makes it fun sometimes.

    Terminate 5.00 is pretty awesome. I have a keygen, if anyone...

    |08Paulie|15420
    |15M|08@|15STERM|07i|15ND
    |14AmericanPiBBS|04.com|07

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ >>>American Pi BBS @ AmericanPiBBS.com:23>>>Rockin like its 1993!>>>
  • From Ogg@VERT/EOTLBBS to paulie420 on Mon May 18 22:03:00 2020
    Hello paulie420!

    ** On Monday 18.05.20 - 21:13, paulie420 wrote to Ogg:

    The public is just blindly carrying on and giving places like FB all
    our information for nothing but it should be for $omething.


    What I'd prefer, as an alternative, is paying $10/mo for a totally ad-
    free track-free everything-free Facebook. Just let me pay, because the service, content and amount of people on it are valuable, for the
    service that I use.

    Even $1/mo is too much! It is OUR data that they are using. The cashflow should come in OUR direction.


    And leave me out of all the algorithmn bullshit.

    Ah.. but that's something you would not be able to know is happening in
    the background. Maybe there is a way to fool us by removing the visual
    clues of the tracking activity in the footer of my browser, but at this
    point I would never trust what anyone at FB would say. Zuckerberg looked like a real loser as he was lieing to the Senate committe last year.

    I made one more LAST visit to FB tonight. I'm not going back there for at least a month.

    In this last visit alone, my data meter indicated that it took 1.8MB (received) and 500K (sent) just to load all the crap before everything settled down. FB is a very big pig.

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ End Of The Line BBS - endofthelinebbs.com
  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to paulie420 on Mon May 18 21:27:11 2020
    Re: Re: Nice BBS/SyncTerm article in Raspberry Pi Tips, Tricks & Fixes
    By: paulie420 to Ogg on Mon May 18 2020 06:13 pm


    What I'd prefer, as an alternative, is paying $10/mo for a totally ad-free track-free everything-free Facebook. Just let me pay, because the service, content and amount of people on it are valuable, for the service that I use.

    And leave me out of all the algorithmn bullshit.


    they dont want that. they want your info and your friend's information.
    your 10 dollars means nothing.

    the information gathers much more money and power.
    ---
    þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::
  • From Rampage@VERT/SESTAR to Ogg on Tue May 19 05:16:12 2020
    Re: Re: Nice BBS/SyncTerm article in Raspberry Pi Tips, Tricks & Fixes
    By: Ogg to Paulie420 on Mon May 18 2020 17:21:00


    Syncterm does not seem to retain my settings the next time I load it. :(

    have you reported this to deuce?

    https://sourceforge.net/p/syncterm/tickets/


    )\/(ark

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ The SouthEast Star Mail HUB - SESTAR
  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Ogg on Tue May 19 07:41:00 2020
    Ogg wrote to paulie420 <=-

    Even $1/mo is too much! It is OUR data that they are using. The
    cashflow should come in OUR direction.

    Jaron Lanier has a book called "You are not a Gadget" that describes a micropayment system where art and content creators can be paid directly for their work. It's a utopian vision of how the internet could be, and how it could directly benefit the people that create the content that now only benefit the investors.

    He's pretty outspoken about the state of the tech, and has an interesting
    Ted talk called something like "Why you need to quit social media".



    ... The inconsistency principle
    --- MultiMail/XT v0.52
    þ Synchronet þ realitycheckBBS -- http://realitycheckBBS.org
  • From Ogg@VERT/EOTLBBS to poindexter FORTRAN on Tue May 19 16:29:00 2020
    Hello poindexter!

    ** On Tuesday 19.05.20 - 10:41, poindexter.fortran wrote to Ogg:

    Even $1/mo is too much! It is OUR data that they are using. The
    cashflow should come in OUR direction.

    Jaron Lanier has a book called "You are not a Gadget" that describes a micropayment system where art and content creators can be paid directly..

    I remember seeing that book, but I forgot that it laid out a solution for
    pay out. I have to track down a copy, thanks.


    He's pretty outspoken about the state of the tech, and has an interesting
    Ted talk called something like "Why you need to quit social media".

    I like the ted talks. Thanks for the heads up on one of Lanier's

    I found a few other ones of his between TT and YT too.

    "We cannot have a society in which, if two people wish to communicate, the only way that can happen is if it's financed by a third person who wishes
    to manipulate them" - Jaron Lanier.

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ End Of The Line BBS - endofthelinebbs.com
  • From Ogg@VERT/EOTLBBS to Digital Man on Wed May 20 12:12:01 2020
    On 18/05/2020 8:45 p.m., Digital Man wrote:

    But I am forced to use Syncterm on my Win7 pc - and resizing is a bit techy requiring to experiment with picking the font size and numbers. Syncterm does not seem to retain my settings the next time I load it. :(

    What version?

    1.1b here.

    I think I got it to cooperate a little better.

    When it is set to maximize, and then [x] close it, the next time I launch it, it
    then restores to the size I want.

    Otherwise, I can't resize it to the size I want while it runs. Instead,it just resets to a window that is 1/4 of the size of my display.

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ End Of The Line BBS - endofthelinebbs.com
  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Ogg on Wed May 20 07:12:00 2020
    Ogg wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    "We cannot have a society in which, if two people wish to communicate,
    the only way that can happen is if it's financed by a third person who wishes to manipulate them" - Jaron Lanier.

    Amen to that.


    ... Think of the radio
    --- MultiMail/XT v0.52
    þ Synchronet þ realitycheckBBS -- http://realitycheckBBS.org
  • From Digital Man@VERT to Ogg on Wed May 20 21:13:45 2020
    Re: Re: Nice BBS/SyncTerm article in Raspberry Pi Tips, Tricks & Fixes
    By: Ogg to Digital Man on Wed May 20 2020 12:12 pm

    On 18/05/2020 8:45 p.m., Digital Man wrote:

    But I am forced to use Syncterm on my Win7 pc - and resizing is a bit techy requiring to experiment with picking the font size and numbers. Syncterm does not seem to retain my settings the next time I load it. :(

    What version?

    1.1b here.

    Maybe try 1.1rc4? 1.1b is a moving target and without a source date, I couldn't guess what code you're running.

    I think I got it to cooperate a little better.

    When it is set to maximize, and then [x] close it, the next time I launch it, it
    then restores to the size I want.

    Otherwise, I can't resize it to the size I want while it runs. Instead,it just resets to a window that is 1/4 of the size of my display.

    Just drawing the window's corners with the mouse should be able to resize/scale to whatever you like. For integer multiple scaling, use Alt-Arrow key combination to resize instead.

    digital man

    Synchronet "Real Fact" #113:
    Weedpuller "Assassin" http://youtu.be/opw9RPUOcv8
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  • From Ogg@VERT/EOTLBBS to Digital Man on Thu May 21 12:36:28 2020
    On 21/05/2020 12:13 a.m., Digital Man wrote:

    1.1b here.

    Maybe try 1.1rc4? 1.1b is a moving target and without a source date, I couldn't guess what code you're running.
    Just drawing the window's corners with the mouse should be able to resize/scale to whatever you like. For integer multiple scaling, use Alt-Arrow key combination to resize instead.
    Nice. That one works much better! Resizing via the corners is essential. Thanks.

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ End Of The Line BBS - endofthelinebbs.com
  • From Ogg@VERT/EOTLBBS to MRO on Sat May 23 21:43:00 2020
    Hello MRO!

    ** On Monday 18.05.20 - 19:24, mro wrote to Ogg:

    Syncterm is probably the only choice that will work with computers
    Win7 and up. Personally, I wanted to stick with Netrunner..

    you can use mt32 [i still do], qodem, syncterm, netrunner [not a fan]
    and a few other ones i cant remember off the bat.

    you can even use dosbox and use an old school terminal program. that
    makes it fun sometimes.

    Thanks for the alternative suggestions. The latest SyncTerm solved the problem on the Win7 pc.

    I'm not much into experimenting with other terminals. Netrunner and
    SyncTerm are good enough at the moment and get the job done.

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ End Of The Line BBS - endofthelinebbs.com
  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Ogg on Sun May 24 12:10:21 2020
    Re: Re: Nice BBS/SyncTerm article in Raspberry Pi Tips, Tricks & Fixes
    By: Ogg to MRO on Sat May 23 2020 09:43 pm

    Thanks for the alternative suggestions. The latest SyncTerm solved the problem on the Win7 pc.

    I'm not much into experimenting with other terminals. Netrunner and SyncTerm are good enough at the moment and get the job done.


    i understand that. i have always been a fan of mt32 and i use syncterm only when needed. i'm also an old buddy of dink but i lost touch with him. last i heard from another sysop here he isnt doing so well.
    ---
    þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::
  • From Digital Man@VERT to MRO on Sun May 24 11:58:52 2020
    Re: Re: Nice BBS/SyncTerm article in Raspberry Pi Tips, Tricks & Fixes
    By: MRO to Ogg on Sun May 24 2020 12:10 pm

    i understand that. i have always been a fan of mt32 and i use syncterm only when needed. i'm also an old buddy of dink but i lost touch with him.
    last i heard from another sysop here he isnt doing so well.

    Health or something else?

    digital man

    Sling Blade quote #7:
    Karl: I don't reckon the Good Lord would send anybody like you to Hades.
    Norco, CA WX: 75.8øF, 49.0% humidity, 4 mph SE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net