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  • Re: lovin' unauthenticat

    From August Abolins@VERT/PALANT to Calcmandan on Wed Apr 22 00:26:00 2020
    Hi Calcmandan,
    In a message to Poindexter Fortran you wrote:

    For too long, I thought of the echoes as (relatively) private,
    but having a bot scrape entire othernets ruins the sense of
    intimacy (for lack of a better word) of the echoes.

    I couldn't agree with you more. This thread marks the first I've heard
    of this happening and it's boggling my mind that anyone finds value in such a small readership to scrape 'othernets' as you call it.

    There *can* be value in one of those "scrape" results:

    https://www.ipingthereforeiam.com/bbs/msgs/

    You can check out an echo quickly. You can search for a string in a message and even follow a thread.


    I love the intimacy of the echo mail system.

    Once I was of the same opinion. But being able to find a message that may have been posted a number of months or even years ago can be useful.

    But I don't think this INTERNET echo is publicly archived/scraped anywhere.


    ..Regards,
    August

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  • From calcmandan@VERT/DIGDIST to August Abolins on Wed Apr 22 01:02:00 2020
    August Abolins wrote to Calcmandan <=-

    You can check out an echo quickly. You can search for a string in a message and even follow a thread.

    My preference is to access echoes the old fashioned way with a black screen
    and attached to a bbs.

    Once I was of the same opinion. But being able to find a message that
    may have been posted a number of months or even years ago can be
    useful.

    But I don't think this INTERNET echo is publicly archived/scraped anywhere.

    I figured they all were. Isn't it easy to just go back in time on the BBS?

    I suppose one has to worry about hard drive failures, like the one that
    occured on the board i connect to daily.

    I'm working on getting my own board up and running at the moment. i may
    run two. One's going to be home base for a new door game I'm designing.



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  • From Lupine Furmen@VERT/FURFOL to calcmandan on Wed Apr 22 11:02:14 2020
    Re: Re: lovin' unauthenticat
    By: calcmandan to August Abolins on Wed Apr 22 2020 01:02:00

    I figured they all were. Isn't it easy to just go back in time on the BBS?

    The thing is, most BBS SysOps have their echoes set to only hold either X number of messages per echo, or purge messages that are past a certain date. -+-

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  • From Ogg@VERT/EOTLBBS to All on Sun May 3 22:49:00 2020
    Hello calcmandan!

    ** On Wednesday 22.04.20 - 04:02, calcmandan wrote to August Abolins:

    August Abolins wrote to Calcmandan <=-

    You can check out an echo quickly. You can search for a string in a
    message and even follow a thread.

    My preference is to access echoes the old fashioned way with a black screen and attached to a bbs.

    Well.. I wouldn't want to use the ipingthereforeiam version on a regular basis, (you can't write to it), but it serves as a fine way to track down
    a message quickly.


    But I don't think this INTERNET echo is publicly archived/scraped
    anywhere.

    I figured they all were. Isn't it easy to just go back in time on the BBS?

    I suppose one has to worry about hard drive failures, like the one that occured on the board i connect to daily.

    Different boards/sysops set their own limits to how many messages they
    wish to retain in any particular echo. Echomail is considered ephemeral,
    I guess. But I appreciate when a sysop maintains a few hundred messages
    per echo no matter how far back in time. It is helpful to be able to read the oldest messages to get a more complete sense of the topics that an
    echo was able to keep.

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