Reboot, and no slow down for an hour. Even bumped up the graphic to max, and while the FPS was lower, no extreme slowdowns.
I love that PCs can be "fixed".
Reboot, and no slow down for an hour. Even bumped up the graphic to max, and while the FPS was lower, no extreme slowdowns.
I love that PCs can be "fixed".
or can they. the damage may already be done.
Well, ok I love that PCs don't have a finite life span? LOOKIN AT YOU APPLE!
For years I've chalked this issue up to Windows 10 running on an older hardware system (Core2Quad Q9300 chip, nVidia GTX 760, 8GB), or something in Windows causing a headache. I've updated drivers from time to time and I believed the issue resolved, but the issue kept returning.
It depends on what device you're talking about. Apple's iPhone and iPad might have a finite lifespan if Apple decides to only go back so far with support with a new version of iOS. But I've herd Mac users
often say their Mac computers last a long time, and that Apple tends to support them back fairly far, and that they keep chugging along. And even after Mac OS X stops supporting a certain model of Mac, you
could probably install Linux or something on it, or even Windows these days (as long as they keep using Intel processors.. I've heard rumors that Apple might switch their Mac computers over to ARM
processors starting next year).
updates, reboots, updates, reboots and the nail in the coffin for me was hibernation. I would close my windows laptop, only to find that it either didnt hibernate and ran out of power, or blue screened, or locked up - so many times. After a while, it was often faster to shut it down so that I had to reboot it, then resume from hibernation.
Re: PCs, General
By: MRO to Android8675 on Tue Sep 24 2019 10:46 pm
Reboot, and no slow down for an hour. Even bumped up the graphic to ma and while the FPS was lower, no extreme slowdowns.
I love that PCs can be "fixed".
or can they. the damage may already be done.
Well, ok I love that PCs don't have a finite life span? LOOKIN AT YOU APPLE!
Re: PCs, General
By: Android8675 to MRO on Wed Sep 25 2019 07:29 am
Re: PCs, General
By: MRO to Android8675 on Tue Sep 24 2019 10:46 pm
Reboot, and no slow down for an hour. Even bumped up the graphic to and while the FPS was lower, no extreme slowdowns.
I love that PCs can be "fixed".
or can they. the damage may already be done.
Well, ok I love that PCs don't have a finite life span? LOOKIN AT YOU APP
your components were stressed from overheating, so there's a lot of things t could have happened to shorten your computer's life span.
Speaking of Macs, I was watching one of the retro pc channels on youtube, and one show host mentioned something about early Macs being notorious for leaky capacitors. This is common withold gear, however the issue with
Re: PCs, General
By: Moondog to MRO on Thu Sep 26 2019 09:55 am
Speaking of Macs, I was watching one of the retro pc channels on youtub and one show host mentioned something about early Macs being notorious leaky capacitors. This is common withold gear, however the issue with
Not too long ago I came across the LGR channel on YouTube. The LGR videos a re he found a new-in-the-box IBM XT from the 80s that hadn't been opened yet
BIOS battery ended up corroding and was no longer working. If that wasn't
The LGR guy has also made videos showing some of his old-school PCs he has b ).
Nightfox
Well, ok I love that PCs don't have a finite life span? LOOKIN AT YOU APPLE!
your components were stressed from overheating, so there's a lot of things that could have happened to shorten your computer's life span.
Re: PCs, General
By: MRO to Android8675 on Wed Sep 25 2019 10:03 pm
Well, ok I love that PCs don't have a finite life span? LOOKIN AT YOU APPLE!
your components were stressed from overheating, so there's a lot of thing that could have happened to shorten your computer's life span.
Yes, and when the day comes that the stress and heat completely kills the CP
Nice to have options.
System is running great now, haven't had a slow down since and I just (final
Love the PCs, in General.
--
Android8675@ShodansCore
obsolescence? I forgot where I read it, however someone stated that modern household appliances have a 10 year lifespan. When i bought my house, I bought a 10 year old refrigerator, and have been running it for 17 years. Only issue was the heating elements in the defroster wore out. Spending
It seems that people used to plan to keep things as long as it would last wh they bought something, and if something broke with it, the attitude would be fix it rather than buy a new one. Now it seems like most people would rathe buy a new one rather than fix what they have. Sometimes it makes more sense financially to buy a new one though.
my uncle who is an electrician and mechanic calls it the weakest link theory. once you fix one thing and make it 100%, it stresses the other components until the next thing fails, and so on.
That sounds just like my car, I replaced the battery the alternator goes ou I replace the alternator the starting motor goes out now I have to replace t power steering pump, your Uncle is a wise man lol.
my uncle who is an electrician and mechanic calls it the weakest link theory. once you fix one thing and make it 100%, it stresses the other components until the next thing fails, and so on.
That sounds just like my car, I replaced the battery the alternator goes out, I replace the alternator the starting motor goes out now I have to replace the power steering pump, your Uncle is a wise man lol.
Re: PCs, General
By: MRO to Nightfox on Sun Sep 29 2019 04:40 pm
my uncle who is an electrician and mechanic calls it the weakest link theory. once you fix one thing and make it 100%, it stresses the other components until the next thing fails, and so on.
I'm not sure how having a new component would stress the others out. Actual I'd think a failing component would stress the other things out, and fixing should make things at least a little better. Once a product reaches a certa age though, I wouldn't be surprised to see multiple things start to fail jus due to its age.
Re: PCs, General
By: Denn to MRO on Sun Sep 29 2019 04:44 pm
That sounds just like my car, I replaced the battery the alternator goe out, I replace the alternator the starting motor goes out now I have to replace the power steering pump, your Uncle is a wise man lol.
I wouldn't be surprised to see multiple things start to fail around the same time due to a product's age. After I had my car for about 6 or 7 years, all the taillight bulbs and headlight bulbs burned out within a short amount of time of each other.
Re: PCs, General
By: Moondog to Android8675 on Sun Sep 29 2019 10:07 am
obsolescence? I forgot where I read it, however someone stated that mod household appliances have a 10 year lifespan. When i bought my house, I bought a 10 year old refrigerator, and have been running it for 17 year Only issue was the heating elements in the defroster wore out. Spending
It seems that people used to plan to keep things as long as it would last wh her than fix what they have. Sometimes it makes more sense financially to b
Nightfox
my uncle who is an electrician and mechanic calls it the weakest link theory. >once you fix one thing and make it 100%, it stresses the other components until
the next thing fails, and so on.
That sounds just like my car, I replaced the battery the alternator
goes out, I replace the alternator the starting motor goes out now I
have to replace the power steering pump, your Uncle is a wise man
lol.
I wouldn't be surprised to see multiple things start to fail around the same time due to a product's age. After I had my car for about 6 or 7 years, all the taillight bulbs and headlight bulbs burned out within a short amount of time of each other.
Re: PCs, General
By: MRO to Nightfox on Sun Sep 29 2019 04:40 pm
my uncle who is an electrician and mechanic calls it the weakest link theory. once you fix one thing and make it 100%, it stresses the other components until the next thing fails, and so on.
That sounds just like my car, I replaced the battery the alternator goes ou I replace the alternator the starting motor goes out now I have to replace t power steering pump, your Uncle is a wise man lol.
Quoting MRO to Denn <=-
same thing with me. battery -> alternator - > starter
Well, ok I love that PCs don't have a finite life span? LOOKIN AT YOU APPLE!
It depends on what device you're talking about. Apple's iPhone and iPad might have a finite lifespan if Apple decides to only go back so far with support with a new version of iOS. But I've herd Mac users often say their Mac computers last a long time, and that Apple tends to support them back fairly far, and that they keep chugging along. And even after Mac OS X stops supporting a certain model of Mac, you could probably install Linux or something on it, or even Windows these days (as long as they keep using Intel processors.. I've heard rumors that Apple might switch their Mac computers over to ARM processors starting next year).
released since is just a pain in the ass. My mom's mac book is coming up on 5 years and I can't even figure out how to copy files off her hard drive without using "time flux capacitor", and that backup is only accessable on a new Mac.
Mom has "memories" on her that system dating back almost 20 years. I have no idea how she managed to get files from her mid-90s PowerMac onto her laptop, most of them won't run because they are PowerPC only.
I have a lot of animosity towards Apple. To this day I just feel they are over priced systems and that Apple has pioneered the concept of "planned obsolessence". I won't deny that their origins were well meaning (remember when every school had at least one Apple ][?), but the company went the wrong way after Jobs got cancer.
Re: PCs, General
By: Nightfox to Android8675 on Wed Sep 25 2019 09:50 am
Well, ok I love that PCs don't have a finite life span? LOOKIN AT YO APPLE!
It depends on what device you're talking about. Apple's iPhone and iPad might have a finite lifespan if Apple decides to only go back so far with support with a new version of iOS. But I've herd Mac users often say the Mac computers last a long time, and that Apple tends to support them back fairly far, and that they keep chugging along. And even after Mac OS X stops supporting a certain model of Mac, you could probably install Linux something on it, or even Windows these days (as long as they keep using Intel processors.. I've heard rumors that Apple might switch their Mac computers over to ARM processors starting next year).
Well... I was making a JOKE, but since this year is "The Year of Serious(tm)
I have a bunch of old iMacs (think G3/CRT type all-in-ones) that run pretty ot school removed them fearing data loss. LoL), and a bunch of other bullshi all dvd is a pain in the ass, Not enough Apple priates out there. Easier to
Macs are.. awful. I love my Apple ][gs, but pretty much anything Apple has r itor", and that backup is only accessable on a new Mac.
iCloud is horrible, Google Drive is a possible solution, but you have to kee
Modern Macs are purposly "sealed" so you can't fix them if they break, Genio
Mom has "memories" on her that system dating back almost 20 years. I have no
I have a lot of animosity towards Apple. To this day I just feel they are ov ne Apple ][?), but the company went the wrong way after Jobs got cancer.
...and now I'll just say that Apple Arcade is AMAZING. So there's always hop
I have a lot of animosity towards Apple. To this day I just feel they are over priced systems and that Apple has pioneered the concept of "planned obsolessence". I won't deny that their origins were well
meaning (remember when every school had at least one Apple ][?), but the company went the wrong way after Jobs got cancer.
Part of Apple's sales strategy is based on "keeping up with the Jones'". After the Apple 2e came out, that's where Apple began to turn for the worse. I get the impression Woz was happy with producing an open hardware hobbyist ma chine, while Jobs wanted more of a boutique built "system" of hardware combine d with specifically tuned software running on their own custom OS.
I wonder where Apple would be if their board didn't ask Jobs to step down in 1985, and he kept spending large sums of money on research for products that would require longer periods of developement and testing?
Yes, I agree they are over priced, and where I was once very anti the "proprietaryness" of the things, and they were more expensive than everything else - I now see why that is a good thing (things work and their support is excellent, because they know all the hardware and software).
they don't create their own apps, or install stuff outside the store because they don't "trust" things that don't come directly from apple.
Macs are.. awful. I love my Apple ][gs, but pretty much anything Apple has released since is just a pain in the ass. My mom's mac book is coming up on 5 years and I can't even figure out how to copy files off her hard drive without using "time flux capacitor", and that backup is only accessable on a new Mac.
iCloud is horrible, Google Drive is a possible solution, but you have to keep a 1tb account because google drive backs up nierly the entire computer.
Modern Macs are purposly "sealed" so you can't fix them if they break, Genious Bar are a bunch of scam artists.
Mom has "memories" on her that system dating back almost 20 years. I have no idea how she managed to get files from her mid-90s PowerMac onto her laptop, most of them won't run because they are PowerPC only.
I have a lot of animosity towards Apple. To this day I just feel they are over priced systems and that Apple has pioneered the concept of "planned obsolessence". I won't deny that their origins were well meaning (remember when every school had at least one Apple ][?), but the company went the wrong way after Jobs got cancer.
I also noticed many upgrades required reboots.
What?
I thought that was a NO NO and a hallmark of the failure of Microsoft!!!
All in All, once i got them configured and set up the way I wanted, they are running well and I will admit these two machines with their less-than-impressive hardware stats actually perform very well with only 6 a 8gb ram respectively.
My kids can't play minecraft on their laptops.
Minecraft plays flawlessly at 120+ fps on these old ass apples.
Other than that, can't stand em.
Thanks,
Zombie Mambo
lately. As for the planned obsolessence, isn't that just about every new technology lately, whether its an iPhone, Andriod phone, Dell laptop, Apple laptop, etc?
To be fair to MS, they have gone a long way towards relaiability from XP on up.
they don't create their own apps, or install stuff outside the store because they don't "trust" things that don't come directly from apple.Is that the mindset Mac users have these days? It always used to be that you could download Mac apps from pretty much anywhere - and as far as I know, you still can. I used to have a Mac Mini at home, and
then a MacBook, but I've used Macs more recently at work sometimes and generally haven't had many problems with them.
On 10-01-19 07:42, Alterego wrote to Android8675 <=-
My experience is completely different, and I'm a huge fan.
On 10-01-19 10:19, Zombie Mambo wrote to Nightfox <=-
they don't create their own apps, or install stuff outside the store because they don't "trust" things that don't come directly from apple.
All in All, once i got them configured and set up the way I wanted,
they are running well and I will admit these two machines with their less-than-impressive hardware stats actually perform very well with
only 6 and 8gb ram respectively.
On 10-01-19 13:36, Moondog wrote to Zombie Mambo <=-
To be fair to MS, they have gone a long way towards relaiability from
XP on up.
On 10-01-19 15:35, Nightfox wrote to Minex <=-
One thing I don't like about Apple is how restrictive they seem to be,
at least for their iOS devices. The only official place you can get
apps for those is the Apple App Store (you can't easily download and install apps from anywhere like you can with a PC or even a Mac). And Apple seems to be steering Mac users to the App Store now for Mac software..
That's a double edged sword. If you want to really tinker with your device, then the closed nature of iOS is going to get in the way, but if you're someone who wants a smartphone with apps that "just works", and wants some degree of confidence that any apps you install are not going to contain malware, then Apple's closed ecosystem does work in your favour. Horses for courses, which is the reason I have both iOS and Android devices. They offer me different things.
Re: PCs, General
By: Moondog to Zombie Mambo on Tue Oct 01 2019 01:36 pm
To be fair to MS, they have gone a long way towards relaiability from X on up.
I think Windows 2000 (before XP) was pretty good too. Windows 2000 was the etc.. Though, they still had Windows ME (9x-based) for consumer PCs, and I
Nightfox
That's a double edged sword. If you want to really tinker with your device, then the closed nature of iOS is going to get in the way, but if you're some who wants a smartphone with apps that "just works", and wants some degree of confidence that any apps you install are not going to contain malware, then Apple's closed ecosystem does work in your favour. Horses for courses, whic is the reason I have both iOS and Android devices. They offer me different things.
... Don't argue with he who buys ink by the gallon.
Apple's closed ecosystem was also the draw for desktop and laptop users years ago. If you bought a Dell or HP, it was packed with third party apps and bloatware to do the same things a Mac did right out of the box. for
what is good or not. The creators of most linux distros understand this, and install the core apps they think a base user will need.
lately. As for the planned obsolessence, isn't that just about every new technology lately, whether its an iPhone, Andriod phone, Dell laptop, Apple laptop, etc?
A few months ago, I heard a story in the news that Apple had a feature in their iOS that was purposefully slowing down older iPhones to conserve battery life. Once the story broke in the news, I heard Apple apologized for that and then reduced the price of out-of-warranty battery replacements for older iPhones. I seem to remember also hearing they planned to update iOS so it wouldn't slow down older iPhones.
I agree planned obsolescense is there for many other products too though.
One thing I don't like about Apple is how restrictive they seem to be, at least for their iOS devices. The only official place you can get apps for those is the Apple App Store (you can't easily download and install apps from anywhere like you can with a PC or even a Mac). And Apple seems to be steering Mac users to the App Store now for Mac software..
I don't like Android for that reason, having multiple stores, some that are less critical of quality make for a ton of bloatware apps. I like that
Apple app store if you search for something usually the first 3 apps are just what you're looking for. Sometimes Android stuff gets burried below a
just what you're looking for. Sometimes Android stuff gets burried below a ton of crap.
Win10 steers users to the store now as well. It's just the thing that works and makes a ton of money. For the most part you can still use non-store apps, but a lot of apps are on the store because it gets the app
On 10-01-19 22:21, Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Yeah, I can see why Apple makes their iOS devices operate the way they
do.
On 10-02-19 11:00, Moondog wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Apple's closed ecosystem was also the draw for desktop and laptop users years ago. If you bought a Dell or HP, it was packed with third party apps and bloatware to do the same things a Mac did right out of the
box. for the "expert" pc user, they'd clean all the bloatware off and install the programs they trust. Of course, there's research behind
that trust, whereas the novice user doesn't know where to go or where
to read about what is good or not. The creators of most linux distros understand this, and install the core apps they think a base user will need.
Re: PCs, General
By: Zombie Mambo to Nightfox on Tue Oct 01 2019 10:19 am
they don't create their own apps, or install stuff outside the store because they don't "trust" things that don't come directly from apple.
Is that the mindset Mac users have these days? It always used to be that yo
at work sometimes and generally haven't had many problems with them.
Nightfox
To be fair to MS, they have gone a long way towards relaiability from XP on up.
On 10-01-19 13:36, Moondog wrote to Zombie Mambo <=-
To be fair to MS, they have gone a long way towards relaiability from XP on up.
I found XP had a few annoying instability quirks, but I've had excellent stability from Vista (if you threw enough hardware at it), 7 and 10.
... Warranty: If it breaks, both halves are yours.
Win10 steers...
Sure you can install programs from outside the store, but unless its from a website selling a product, my mac using friends/family won't install it because they don't "trust" it.
For example... Try writing an application on a mac.
Takes forver to get a friggin dev environment going. Especially if you want something you don't have to pay for.
Vista? I thought vista wasone of the worst versions of windows ever created. I absolutely hated it. Maybe once you got it configured the way you wanted it would behave better, but I didn't like it. I stayed with XP until 7.
Vista? I thought vista wasone of the worst versions of windows ever
created. I absolutely hated it. Maybe once you got it configured the
way you wanted it would behave better, but I didn't like it. I
stayed with XP until 7.
I think part of the problem was that most of the systems I saw running Vista were cheap, underpowered systems. Celerons, 2-4 GB of RAM, slow spinning drives...
By the time 7 rolled around, Core 2 Duos were common, as was 8 GB of RAM, and Hybrid SATA drives made a huge difference.
On 10-03-19 13:50, Zombie Mambo wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Intersting.
2000 - Decent
2003 Server - Decent
XP - What a long run this OS had and how many people it brought to the
pc market.
7/8/10 - All solid. A bit bloated perhaps but solid.
Vista? I thought vista wasone of the worst versions of windows ever created. I absolutely hated it. Maybe once you got it configured the
way you wanted it would behave better, but I didn't like it. I stayed
with XP until 7.
I give honorable mentions to server 2008 and 2012 as well.
Solid.
Re: PCs, General
By: Zombie Mambo to Nightfox on Thu Oct 03 2019 01:40 pm
Sure you can install programs from outside the store, but unless its fr a website selling a product, my mac using friends/family won't install because they don't "trust" it.
That's kinda funny, because I thought Steve Wozniak and Steve Jobs at Apple
Nightfox
Vk3jed wrote to Moondog <=-
There's a different between "preloaded" and "closed" systems. You're describing preloading on PCs, but it's still an open ecosystem. No
one's stopping you from going online and downloading and installing any app you want (that will run on Windows). On iOS/iPadOS, you're
restricted to what' on offer from the App Store (for normaal users) and the OS also won't let you do a lot of low level things with the device, unlike Windows, where you can install device drivers from third party sources.
Vista? I thought vista wasone of the worst versions of windows ever created. I absolutely hated it. Maybe once you got it configured the way you wanted it would behave better, but I didn't like it. I stayed with XP until 7.
The hobbists also embraced an "information must be free" mind set, and would g ladly reverse engineer and build an item themself than pay money if they could. It's a great environment for innovation, but not for profit. At one computer club meeting Paul Allen and Bill Gates asked how many members were using their version of MS BASIC on the Altair 8080, and more users raised their than hands than the number of copies were legally sold. Hard to make a living off people assume you put thousand of hours into a product just because
you like to.
On 10-04-19 06:23, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Time to call out another behavior by manufacturers - burning crapware
into firmware of Android phones. AT&T and Verizon are notorious for getting paid by vendors for burning in their apps into the OS image, so you can't remove them.
I had an AT&T Samsung SIII that was loaded. I ended up finding
third-party OS builds that only loaded the default Android image, and
it ran like a dream for years past it's reasonable useful date.
On 10-04-19 17:15, Nightfox wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
I think part of the problem was that most of the systems I saw running Vista were cheap, underpowered systems. Celerons, 2-4 GB of RAM, slow spinning drives...
I had often heard that Vista was a bit bloated and inefficient, which
was one of the main things Microsoft addressed with Windows 7. I
thought Windows 7 had lower system requirements than Vista and thus
would run better.
Re: Re: PCs, General
By: Zombie Mambo to Vk3jed on Thu Oct 03 2019 01:50 pm
Vista? I thought vista wasone of the worst versions of windows ever created. I absolutely hated it. Maybe once you got it configured the way you wanted it would behave better, but I didn't like it. I stayed with X until 7.
I think part of the problem was that most of the systems I saw running Vista
By the time 7 rolled around, Core 2 Duos were common, as was 8 GB of RAM, an
Re: Re: PCs, General
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Zombie Mambo on Fri Oct 04 2019 04:28 pm
Vista? I thought vista wasone of the worst versions of windows ever
created. I absolutely hated it. Maybe once you got it configured the
way you wanted it would behave better, but I didn't like it. I
stayed with XP until 7.
I think part of the problem was that most of the systems I saw running Vista were cheap, underpowered systems. Celerons, 2-4 GB of RAM, slow spinning drives...
By the time 7 rolled around, Core 2 Duos were common, as was 8 GB of RA and Hybrid SATA drives made a huge difference.
I had often heard that Vista was a bit bloated and inefficient, which was on
Nightfox
Vk3jed wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
Yes, stock Android is the best.
Vista? I thought vista wasone of the worst versions of windows ever created I absolutely hated it. Maybe once you got it configured the way you wanted i would behave better, but I didn't like it. I stayed with XP until 7.
Re: PCs, General
By: Android8675 to Nightfox on Wed Oct 02 2019 01:53 pm
Win10 steers...
Really? I thought the store was pretty much dead after the metro ui fiasco i 8.1
It's there, but sh*t why anyone would go to the store for anything beats me.
Unless the only way to get a particular app is indeed through the store. Otherwise, f the store.
created. I absolutely hated it. Maybe once you got it configured the way you wanted it would behave better, but I didn't like it. I stayed with X until 7.
I think part of the problem was that most of the systems I saw running Vista were cheap, underpowered systems. Celerons, 2-4 GB of RAM, slow spinning drives...
Yes, stock Android is the best.
windows ME was probably the worst version of windows created.
On 10-05-19 07:06, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Vk3jed <=-
True dat. I bought a Motorola G6 Forge (I think it's really a Play)
from my MVNO last year. it was $99, and Moto bundles as close to stock Android as I've seen. Nice phone.
On 10-05-19 20:35, Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-
I've been using Samsung Android phones for a long time, and I've tended
to use the Samsung web browser - probably because that was the default
web browser on them. At first I didn't even realise it was Samsung's browser..
One thing that has bugged me about Android though (or maybe Samsung),
is that they removed a couple useful featurse I used to use: Customized text notification tones that you could set per contact, and the
"re-send" texting feature. If you tried to send a text to someone and
it failed, you could long-tap it and select "re-send", but they removed that option out a few years ago. Now, I have to copy & paste the text
and send it again if it fails. My cell signal is bad at work, so I
have to do that fairly often.
I also used to set a customized text notification sound for some
contacts, and it bugs me that they removed that too..
On 10-05-19 19:49, MRO wrote to Zombie Mambo <=-
windows ME was probably the worst version of windows created.
vista wasnt that bad. you just need to tweak a few things.
On 10-05-19 19:52, MRO wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
vista would run fine on 4gigs of ram. not sure about less.
Re: Re: PCs, General
By: Zombie Mambo to Vk3jed on Thu Oct 03 2019 01:50 pm
Vista? I thought vista wasone of the worst versions of windows ever crea I absolutely hated it. Maybe once you got it configured the way you wante would behave better, but I didn't like it. I stayed with XP until 7.
windows ME was probably the worst version of windows created.
vista wasnt that bad. you just need to tweak a few things.
Moondog wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
The "Vista Ready" campaign tanked because of lower resource machines
being sold with all the bells and whistles optimized.
Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Yes, stock Android is the best.
I've been using Samsung Android phones for a long time, and I've tended
to use the Samsung web browser - probably because that was the default
web browser on them. At first I didn't even realise it was Samsung's browser..
One thing that has bugged me about Android though (or maybe Samsung),
is that they removed a couple useful featurse I used to use: Customized text notification tones that you could set per contact, and the
"re-send" texting feature. If you tried to send a text to someone and
it failed, you could long-tap it and select "re-send", but they removed that option out a few years ago. Now, I have to copy & paste the text
and send it again if it fails. My cell signal is bad at work, so I
have to do that fairly often.
On 10-05-19 19:49, MRO wrote to Zombie Mambo <=-
windows ME was probably the worst version of windows created.
It was known as "Windows Must Erase". :D
On 10-06-19 14:39, MRO wrote to Vk3jed <=-
@VIA: VERT/BBSESINF
Re: Re: PCs, General
By: Vk3jed to MRO on Sun Oct 06 2019 04:47 pm
On 10-05-19 19:49, MRO wrote to Zombie Mambo <=-
windows ME was probably the worst version of windows created.
It was known as "Windows Must Erase". :D
windows 95 also had an issue where if you overwrote a file with the
same name, it became 0 bytes.
On 10-06-19 11:20, Moondog wrote to MRO <=-
Millenium Edition sucked hard. It was essentially a service pack for Win98 that had too much crap in it, and they pawned it off as an OS "upgrade." Whil e Win2k was what I consider a hit in the business
market, I feel it took a hit because consumers mistook it for ME.
just what you're looking for. Sometimes Android stuff gets burried below a ton of crap.
I'm not really sure what you mean.. Are you saying it shows you things that don't match your search words?
Re: PCs, General
By: Zombie Mambo to Nightfox on Thu Oct 03 2019 01:40 pm
Sure you can install programs from outside the store, but unless its fr a website selling a product, my mac using friends/family won't install because they don't "trust" it.
That's kinda funny, because I thought Steve Wozniak and Steve Jobs at Apple
Nightfox
Eh? I've done some development on a Mac before, and it didn't seem like too
Re: Re: PCs, General
By: Zombie Mambo to Vk3jed on Thu Oct 03 2019 01:50 pm
Vista? I thought vista wasone of the worst versions of windows ever created. I absolutely hated it. Maybe once you got it configured the wa you wanted it would behave better, but I didn't like it. I stayed with until 7.
Vista was ok at first but then it get's really bloated and you have to reinstall it.
Windows 8.0 aka metro was the worst for me but then they fixed it with 8.1 upgrade.
I am still using 8.1 on my laptop, and windows 7 on my main PC.
You'd think they'd want to harness that experience in their products for others but they didn't. Instead, they went closed-system (and then complained that microsoft was closed system because they.... omg... included a web browser... NOOOOOOOOO!!!!).
Uugg, you know forget what I said, I'm too old/tire/sore to talk about one app store vs. another. Got my wife a Moto G7 Power over the weekend and got it up and running in under 10 minutes, so whoo hoo, Go Android.
Yeah that is how they came off right?
Garage builders.
You'd think they'd want to harness that experience in their products for oth but they didn't. Instead, they went closed-system (and then complained that microsoft was closed system because they.... omg... included a web browser.. NOOOOOOOOO!!!!).
Thanks,
Zombie Mambo
I had often heard that Vista was a bit bloated and inefficient, which was one of the main things Microsoft addressed with Windows 7. I thought Windows 7 had lower system requirements than Vista and thus would run better.
Re: PCs, General
By: Zombie Mambo to Nightfox on Mon Oct 07 2019 11:06 am
You'd think they'd want to harness that experience in their products fo others but they didn't. Instead, they went closed-system (and then complained that microsoft was closed system because they.... omg... included a web browser... NOOOOOOOOO!!!!).
I'm not sure the complaint against Microsoft was that they were a closed sys in that). I believe Netscape was one of the big companies against Microsoft
I think Microsoft used that to their adavantage. They made IE behave diffr ox came around, many people liked it and I think that was when people starte
Nightfox
If you compare a Vista vs. Win7 system today (patched, running normally), Vista is a bit less bloaty. Win7 doesn't feel like much of an upgrade, Vista really did add a ton of security stuff and "bloat" vs. XP, but in the end all the changes really made a difference. (just generalizing here, don't kill me)
I like that the latest installer for Win10 has the latest major update ready
It's like Linux, but Windows.
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Android8675@ShodansCore
Just curious as to what your alternative is to Apple? Windows? Linux? I'm a huge Apple fan, but I'll admit that they seem to be going downhill lately. As for the planned obsolessence, isn't that just about every new technology lately, whether its an iPhone, Andriod phone, Dell laptop, Apple laptop, etc?
Though whats funny is that I am still using my 2006 Black Macbook. :D I upgraded the original hard drive with an SSD, and the memory to 6GB and it actually runs surprisingly well! I am using it as a server to run MajorBBS.
You're right it was really about IE and netscape was the big complainer but Apple complained about MS and their practices too. Maybe they just rode the negative press to their advantage.
But it sure seems like apple is guilty of many of the same practices they complained about.
Sure feels like you have less freedoms with apple products than you do with any others out there.
Re: PCs, General
By: Zombie Mambo to Nightfox on Fri Oct 11 2019 03:50 pm
You're right it was really about IE and netscape was the big complainer but Apple complained about MS and their practices too. Maybe they just rode the negative press to their advantage.
But it sure seems like apple is guilty of many of the same practices th complained about.
Sure feels like you have less freedoms with apple products than you do with any others out there.
Yeah, Apple may be doing some of the same types of things. Apple might not
I know Apple wants to protect their image of having a good ecosystem of qual
need with various software packages, so they might not be fully competent i t want that game on their platforms? Will it be okay for Apple to unilateral evices. One of the selling points of a computing device should be a large a software availability.
Nightfox
It depends on what device you're talking about. Apple's iPhone and iPad might have a finite lifespan if Apple decides to only go back so far with support with a new version of iOS. But I've herd Mac users often say their Mac computers last a long time, and that Apple tends to support them back fairly far, and that they keep chugging along. And even after Mac OS X stops supporting a certain model of Mac, you could probably install Linux or something on it, or even Windows these days (as long as they keep using Intel processors.. I've heard rumors that Apple might switch their Mac computers over to ARM processors starting next year).
NIghtfox
my uncle who is an electrician and mechanic calls it the weakest link theory. once you fix one thing and make it 100%, it stresses the other components until the next thing fails, and so on.
Re: PCs, General
By: MRO to Nightfox on Sun Sep 29 2019 04:40 pm
my uncle who is an electrician and mechanic calls it the weakest link theory. once you fix one thing and make it 100%, it stresses the other components until the next thing fails, and so on.
I like that way of thinking Nightfox. Makes since!
I like that way of thinking Nightfox. Makes since!
i'm the guy that said it
my uncle who is an electrician and mechanic calls it the weakest link
theory. once you fix one thing and make it 100%, it stresses the other
components until the next thing fails, and so on.
I like that way of thinking Nightfox. Makes since!
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