• falcon + winter soldier

    From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to All on Sun May 2 21:37:00 2021
    Hello All,

    I felt trepidatious venturing into the first few episodes Falcon
    And The Winter Soldier series. But I surrendered to the flow and
    finished the first season and enjoyed the journey.

    The effects were well crafted. The story-line was compelling.
    The humour was peppered sparingly.

    I've seen some of the Avenger series full-feature films in the
    past, (the first 2 Ironman movies, for sure) but after a while
    another one of them disuaded me to continue - I forget which
    one. I think it was Thor: Dark World - the one with Loki. I
    just couldn't finish watching that one.

    However, F+WS has made me curious to how the original Captain
    America "dies" and ceased to exist, and why the world entered
    into such a dark time. Apparently, the Avengers:Endgame film is
    supposed to cover that aspect.

    Sofar, I like what I've seen. The beer-bellied Thor is
    hilarious. I am not sure of the origins of Rocket the racoon,
    but maybe I'll work my way backward in the timeline to find out.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Ogg on Mon May 3 03:45:44 2021
    Re: falcon + winter soldier
    By: Ogg to All on Sun May 02 2021 09:37 pm

    However, F+WS has made me curious to how the original Captain
    America "dies" and ceased to exist, and why the world entered
    into such a dark time. Apparently, the Avengers:Endgame film is
    supposed to cover that aspect.



    the bad guys in the falcon and winter soldier are the ones that want it to go back to when there was the snap, i believe.

    and captain america didnt die or cease to exist. he just retired in the past.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Ogg on Mon May 3 05:15:03 2021
    Re: falcon + winter soldier
    By: Ogg to All on Sun May 02 2021 09:37 pm

    Hello All,

    I felt trepidatious venturing into the first few episodes Falcon
    And The Winter Soldier series. But I surrendered to the flow and
    finished the first season and enjoyed the journey.

    The effects were well crafted. The story-line was compelling.
    The humour was peppered sparingly.

    I've seen some of the Avenger series full-feature films in the
    past, (the first 2 Ironman movies, for sure) but after a while
    another one of them disuaded me to continue - I forget which
    one. I think it was Thor: Dark World - the one with Loki. I
    just couldn't finish watching that one.

    However, F+WS has made me curious to how the original Captain
    America "dies" and ceased to exist, and why the world entered
    into such a dark time. Apparently, the Avengers:Endgame film is
    supposed to cover that aspect.

    Sofar, I like what I've seen. The beer-bellied Thor is
    hilarious. I am not sure of the origins of Rocket the racoon,
    but maybe I'll work my way backward in the timeline to find out.

    Rocket is the result of some experiment (Guardians of the Galaxy I).
    If you want to enjoy the MCU you actually need to consume most of its films. You may skip the Spiderman ones and the Fantastic Four ones (are these
    ones actually MCU?). I think this is yet another reason not to jump into it since the MCU requirtes a big investment from you :-)


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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Mon May 3 09:20:00 2021
    Hello MRO!

    ** On Monday 03.05.21 - 03:45, MRO wrote to Ogg:

    the bad guys in the falcon and winter soldier are the ones
    that want it to go back to when there was the snap, i
    believe.

    One of the fandom wikis has filled in the gaps for me now.

    and captain america didnt die or cease to exist. he just
    retired in the past.

    The F+WS made a reference to his death. So, I assumed he was
    killed. But the Endgame revealed the death was probably from old
    age. But there is no clear reveal of an actual death. With the
    liberty of time-travel so easily available, I guess anything can
    happen.

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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Arelor on Mon May 3 09:37:00 2021
    Hello Arelor!

    ** On Monday 03.05.21 - 05:15, Arelor wrote to Ogg:

    Rocket is the result of some experiment (Guardians of the
    Galaxy I).

    Meanwhile, one of the fandom wikis provided the background info.
    I don't really need to see the films anymore.

    If you want to enjoy the MCU you actually need to
    consume most of its films.You may skip the Spiderman ones
    and the Fantastic Four ones (are these ones actually MCU?).

    I seem to get enough info and enjoyment from just reading the
    plots. Yeah, the visual special effects can be amazing and
    beautiful, but too much of that seems to get old fast.

    I think this is yet another reason not to jump into it since
    the MCU requirtes a big investment from you :-)

    I think I've had enough of those movies right now. The
    liberties of time-travel make it too easy to "fix" things.

    I tackled the Endgame film in about 3 sessions. I simply got
    tired of the time-travel trickery. Ok.. so Capt. America
    returns the stones to their respective timelines.. so that
    basically puts the stones back into play and an opportunity for
    things to repeat themselves. Sheeesh.

    I'm not sure where Thanos comes from, but that dude had issues.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Ogg on Mon May 3 17:47:13 2021
    Re: falcon + winter soldier
    By: Ogg to MRO on Mon May 03 2021 09:20 am

    The F+WS made a reference to his death. So, I assumed he was
    killed. But the Endgame revealed the death was probably from old
    age. But there is no clear reveal of an actual death. With the
    liberty of time-travel so easily available, I guess anything can
    happen.

    what episode? he was alive and an old man and he was the guy who handed the shield over to falcon in the movie.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Ogg on Mon May 3 17:48:34 2021
    Re: falcon + winter soldier
    By: Ogg to Arelor on Mon May 03 2021 09:37 am

    Rocket is the result of some experiment (Guardians of the
    Galaxy I).

    Meanwhile, one of the fandom wikis provided the background info.
    I don't really need to see the films anymore.


    well, wikis arent a replacement for watching the movie.

    come on now, man!

    I seem to get enough info and enjoyment from just reading the
    plots. Yeah, the visual special effects can be amazing and
    beautiful, but too much of that seems to get old fast.

    watch thor ragnarok.
    that's a great movie.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Ogg on Tue May 4 04:27:40 2021
    Re: falcon + winter soldier
    By: Ogg to Arelor on Mon May 03 2021 09:37 am

    I tackled the Endgame film in about 3 sessions. I simply got
    tired of the time-travel trickery. Ok.. so Capt. America
    returns the stones to their respective timelines.. so that
    basically puts the stones back into play and an opportunity for
    things to repeat themselves. Sheeesh.

    the time travel part didnt seem like it took up too much of the movie.

    they put the stones back where they got them [but they didnt] to preserve the timeline [which they didnt].

    they sort of overlooked a few parts where they screwed it all up

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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to OGG on Tue May 4 09:49:00 2021
    OGG wrote to ALL <=-

    I felt trepidatious venturing into the first few episodes Falcon
    And The Winter Soldier series. But I surrendered to the flow and
    finished the first season and enjoyed the journey.

    <snip snap>


    I very much enjoyed it, and the ending brought a tear to my eye!

    As for Endgame and the rest... I actually recently went back to
    the beghinning and started watching the entire MCU again - but
    this time catching the movies I havne't seen (so far, just Hulk)
    and adding in the television shows. I'd seen Peggy Carter Season
    One as well as Daredevil Season One. I'd also seen S1 and most of
    S2 of Agents of Shield. Now I've seen those 'again' and also others
    that I had missed - I'm on S2 of Carter now and I've seen Jessica
    Jones. Boy that's a contrast...




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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to ARELOR on Tue May 4 09:50:00 2021
    ARELOR wrote to OGG <=-


    Rocket is the result of some experiment (Guardians of the Galaxy I).
    If you want to enjoy the MCU you actually need to consume most of its films. You may skip the Spiderman ones and the Fantastic Four ones (are these ones actually MCU?). I think this is yet another reason not to
    jump into it since the MCU requirtes a big investment from you :-)

    Spider Man is part of it, but not Fantastic Four.




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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to OGG on Tue May 4 09:51:00 2021
    OGG wrote to <=-


    and captain america didnt die or cease to exist. he just
    retired in the past.

    The F+WS made a reference to his death. So, I assumed he was
    killed. But the Endgame revealed the death was probably from old
    age. But there is no clear reveal of an actual death. With the
    liberty of time-travel so easily available, I guess anything can
    happen.

    Only reference to the original Cap that I saw in Falcon was when
    the guy said, "I thought Captain America was on the moon," making
    me think he's off planet?




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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to OGG on Tue May 4 09:53:00 2021
    OGG wrote to ARELOR <=-

    I tackled the Endgame film in about 3 sessions. I simply got
    tired of the time-travel trickery. Ok.. so Capt. America
    returns the stones to their respective timelines.. so that
    basically puts the stones back into play and an opportunity for
    things to repeat themselves. Sheeesh.

    Did you watch Infinity War first? Or just went straight into
    Endgame?

    Yeah - they have to repeat... Remember when Tony Stark was
    ADAMENT to Banner about "don't undo anything, just bring back
    the people that were removed" (paraphrasing). He didn't want
    to undo his daughter!

    I'm not sure where Thanos comes from, but that dude had issues.

    I don't remember it being explained in the movies, but it's obvious
    he's a powerful being from 'out there.'



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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to MRO on Tue May 4 09:23:38 2021
    On 5/3/2021 3:48 PM, MRO wrote:

    watch thor ragnarok.
    that's a great movie.

    The first Iron Man, Thor Ragnarok and Guardians of The Galaxy are hands
    down the best movies in the MCU. Infinity War and End Game are kind of
    must watch to move forward, but most of the others you can skip or watch
    as desired. I think Spiderman Homecoming was very good as well.
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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Tue May 4 09:38:00 2021
    Hello MRO!

    ** On Monday 03.05.21 - 17:47, MRO wrote to Ogg:

    The F+WS made a reference to his death. So, I assumed he was
    killed. But the Endgame revealed the death was probably from old
    age. But there is no clear reveal of an actual death. With the
    liberty of time-travel so easily available, I guess anything can
    happen.

    what episode? he was alive and an old man and he was the guy
    who handed the shield over to falcon in the movie.

    In the F+WS first episode, either the F or the WS used the word
    death. ..so I assumed he died, somehow. Based on the ending in
    Endgame, it was probably old age.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to JIMMY ANDERSON on Tue May 4 17:49:08 2021
    Re: falcon + winter soldier
    By: JIMMY ANDERSON to OGG on Tue May 04 2021 09:51 am

    Only reference to the original Cap that I saw in Falcon was when
    the guy said, "I thought Captain America was on the moon," making
    me think he's off planet?


    what episode is that? i dont recall that. well i googled it and it was the first episode. that moon thing is a rumor.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to JIMMY ANDERSON on Tue May 4 17:50:58 2021
    Re: falcon + winter soldier
    By: JIMMY ANDERSON to OGG on Tue May 04 2021 09:53 am

    I don't remember it being explained in the movies, but it's obvious
    he's a powerful being from 'out there.'


    they gave him a very small backstory. that's about it.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Tracker1 on Tue May 4 17:51:39 2021
    Re: Re: falcon + winter soldier
    By: Tracker1 to MRO on Tue May 04 2021 09:23 am

    On 5/3/2021 3:48 PM, MRO wrote:

    watch thor ragnarok.
    that's a great movie.

    The first Iron Man, Thor Ragnarok and Guardians of The Galaxy are hands
    down the best movies in the MCU. Infinity War and End Game are kind of
    must watch to move forward, but most of the others you can skip or watch
    as desired. I think Spiderman Homecoming was very good as well.
    --

    black panther is good too.
    i dont like the spiderman movies. michael keaton as the vulture stole the movie, though.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Ogg on Tue May 4 17:56:03 2021
    Re: falcon + winter soldier
    By: Ogg to MRO on Tue May 04 2021 09:38 am


    In the F+WS first episode, either the F or the WS used the word
    death. ..so I assumed he died, somehow. Based on the ending in
    Endgame, it was probably old age.

    i didnt catch that and i looked it up and i guess in episode 5 sam refers to him as 'gone' but they never said dead.

    most of the world doesnt know that he stayed in the past to live a live with carter and is and old man now.

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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Wed May 5 09:27:00 2021
    Hello MRO!

    ** On Tuesday 04.05.21 - 17:56, MRO wrote to Ogg:

    ..so I assumed he died, somehow. Based on the ending in
    Endgame, it was probably old age.

    i didnt catch that and i looked it up and i guess in episode
    5 sam refers to him as 'gone' but they never said dead.

    I had a feeling there was another reference to him 'gone' in a
    later episode. Thanks.

    most of the world doesnt know that he stayed in the past to
    live a live with carter and is and old man now.

    But.. considering that Tony invented a time machine, anything
    could happen, and repeat. Sheesh. I just finished watching
    Iron Man 3. There's a kid Tony meets up with in that film. That
    kid could be a vector into a future story-line.


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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to JIMMY ANDERSON on Wed May 5 09:29:00 2021
    Hello JIMMY ANDERSON!

    ** On Tuesday 04.05.21 - 09:51, JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to OGG:

    The F+WS made a reference to his death. So, I assumed he
    was killed. But the Endgame revealed the death was
    probably from old age..

    Only reference to the original Cap that I saw in Falcon was
    when the guy said, "I thought Captain America was on the
    moon," making me think he's off planet?

    Oh yeah.. I seem to recall an "on the moon" comment.


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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to JIMMY ANDERSON on Wed May 5 09:39:00 2021
    Hello JIMMY ANDERSON!

    ** On Tuesday 04.05.21 - 09:49, JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to OGG:

    I felt trepidatious venturing into the first few episodes
    Falcon And The Winter Soldier series. But I surrendered to
    the flow and finished the first season and enjoyed the
    journey.

    <snip snap>

    I very much enjoyed it, and the ending brought a tear to my
    eye!

    Yeah.. the "family" feel that brought everyone together was
    nice.

    As for Endgame and the rest... I actually recently went
    back to the beghinning and started watching the entire MCU
    again..

    Ok.. see you in the next decade!


    ..I'm on S2 of Carter now and I've seen Jessica Jones. Boy
    that's a contrast...

    Never heard of that one.

    Not long ago, there was a Tv series called Heroes, about group
    of people that were engineered to have powers. I invested in
    that one - if only to learn about their origins.


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to JIMMY ANDERSON on Wed May 5 07:07:00 2021
    JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to OGG <=-

    As for Endgame and the rest... I actually recently went back to
    the beghinning and started watching the entire MCU again - but
    this time catching the movies I havne't seen (so far, just Hulk)
    and adding in the television shows. I'd seen Peggy Carter Season
    One as well as Daredevil Season One. I'd also seen S1 and most of
    S2 of Agents of Shield. Now I've seen those 'again' and also others
    that I had missed - I'm on S2 of Carter now and I've seen Jessica
    Jones. Boy that's a contrast...


    I really liked the MCU-adjacent shows like JJ, Luke Cage, and The Defenders. Iron Fist not quite so much.

    One thing that's made me laugh lately is watching "reaction" videos on
    YouTube - watching hardcore fans watching SF content and losing their sh*t when things happen - like the ending of Mandalorian S2. Tears were flowing.

    There was a video of the Endgame battle with Thanos, when Thanos has Thor on the ground, and, well, we all know. The people watching went absolutely
    crazy - I'm not sure where they filmed the reactions.

    Hey, do we know what happened to Mjolnir, post Endgame? Captain America brought it with him through the time portal, but didn't come back with it.





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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to JIMMY ANDERSON on Wed May 5 07:11:00 2021
    JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to ARELOR <=-

    ARELOR wrote to OGG <=-

    Spider Man is part of it, but not Fantastic Four.

    One of the Marvel "What If?" comics had Spiderman a member of the Fantastic Five.

    Personally, I liked the "What if Frasier joined the Fantastic Four?"

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to JIMMY ANDERSON on Wed May 5 07:13:00 2021
    JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to OGG <=-

    Yeah - they have to repeat... Remember when Tony Stark was
    ADAMENT to Banner about "don't undo anything, just bring back
    the people that were removed" (paraphrasing). He didn't want
    to undo his daughter!

    Oh, now I would like to see an aside where things went back... wrong. Could
    be a webisode - make it so they go back again and no one would have a memory of the altered timeline.

    How about a "Man in the High Castle" kinda thing where maybe Captain America didn't make a difference in WWII and the Axis powers won?


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu May 6 07:31:25 2021
    Re: Re: falcon + winter soldier
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to JIMMY ANDERSON on Wed May 05 2021 07:07 am


    Hey, do we know what happened to Mjolnir, post Endgame? Captain America brought it with him through the time portal, but didn't come back with it.


    they made no mention of it, but i assume it goes back to thor once he sticks out his hand and calls it.

    remember thor stole it from his past self.

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  • From fusion@VERT/CFBBS to Ogg on Thu May 6 10:58:00 2021
    On 05 May 2021, Ogg said the following...

    ..I'm on S2 of Carter now and I've seen Jessica Jones. Boy
    that's a contrast...

    Never heard of that one.

    there were a few pre-Disney Marvel shows on Netflix.. they're all pretty good. and they're tied up quite nicely at the end with all of them coming together for The Defenders. i think most people would agree Daredevil was the best of the lot, perhaps followed by Punisher. so i'd watch them in whatever order makes sense but saves as much of those for last.

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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to OGG on Thu May 6 23:03:00 2021
    OGG wrote to <=-

    The F+WS made a reference to his death. So, I assumed he was
    killed. But the Endgame revealed the death was probably from old
    age. But there is no clear reveal of an actual death. With the
    liberty of time-travel so easily available, I guess anything can
    happen.

    what episode? he was alive and an old man and he was the guy
    who handed the shield over to falcon in the movie.

    In the F+WS first episode, either the F or the WS used the word
    death. ..so I assumed he died, somehow. Based on the ending in
    Endgame, it was probably old age.

    I missed that... But it could also be a secret that he's alive, and the
    'world' thinks he is dead...





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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to OGG on Thu May 6 23:04:00 2021
    OGG wrote to <=-

    But.. considering that Tony invented a time machine, anything
    could happen, and repeat. Sheesh. I just finished watching
    Iron Man 3. There's a kid Tony meets up with in that film. That
    kid could be a vector into a future story-line.

    Do they have any Pym Particles left though?

    And yeah I enjoyed meeting that kid and rewatching IM3 recently. :-)






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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to OGG on Thu May 6 23:07:00 2021
    OGG wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

    I very much enjoyed it, and the ending brought a tear to my
    eye!

    Yeah.. the "family" feel that brought everyone together was
    nice.

    Yeah, that, but I'm specifically talking about (trying to avoid spoilers
    for anyone like me that doesn't want details before they see it) -

    the statue...

    As for Endgame and the rest... I actually recently went
    back to the beghinning and started watching the entire MCU
    again..

    Ok.. see you in the next decade!

    LOL

    ..I'm on S2 of Carter now and I've seen Jessica Jones. Boy
    that's a contrast...

    Never heard of that one.

    Jessica Jones is on Netflix. Takes place in New York, and is
    very much in the same 'tone' as Daredevil...

    Not long ago, there was a Tv series called Heroes, about group
    of people that were engineered to have powers. I invested in
    that one - if only to learn about their origins.

    I LOVED loved LOVED the first season!!! Was one long story and was
    really engaging! Then S2 seemed like a "well that worked, let's
    try again" and then S3 jumped the shark 'for me' - YMMV.

    I went back and watched Season One again and stopped. :-)

    Did you ever watch Dollhouse?!?!? That and Jericho! WOW!!!




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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to JIMMY ANDERSON on Sat May 8 21:05:00 2021
    Hello JIMMY ANDERSON!

    ** On Thursday 06.05.21 - 23:07, you wrote to me:

    Yeah.. the "family" feel that brought everyone together
    was nice.

    Yeah, that, but I'm specifically talking about (trying to
    avoid spoilers for anyone like me that doesn't want details
    before they see it) -

    the statue...

    It was probably engineered into the story to cater to that
    demographic to emphasize equality as humans.

    Not long ago, there was a Tv series called Heroes..

    I LOVED loved LOVED the first season!!! Was one long story
    and was really engaging! Then S2 seemed like a "well that
    worked, let's try again" and then S3 jumped the shark 'for
    me' - YMMV.

    I think I forgot about S3. :( S2 wasn't as engaging as S1.
    MCU fans should check out Heroes for a "realistic" twist on
    humans with unusual powers.

    I went back and watched Season One again and stopped. :-)

    I might do that too. At the time, I could only watch them on
    broadcast tv and wait a week for the next episode; by then, the
    emmersive feel of being vested in a story was gone.

    Did you ever watch Dollhouse?!?!? That and Jericho! WOW!!!

    Briefly. Sounds like Westworld, but using humans as the
    programmable hosts.


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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to JIMMY ANDERSON on Sat May 8 21:07:00 2021
    Hello JIMMY ANDERSON!

    what episode? he was alive and an old man and he was the
    guy who handed the shield over to falcon in the movie.

    In the F+WS first episode, either the F or the WS used the
    word death. ..so I assumed he died, somehow. Based on the
    ending in Endgame, it was probably old age.

    I missed that... But it could also be a secret that he's
    alive, and the 'world' thinks he is dead...

    Anything is possible in the MCU. :/ Now that they have time-
    machine technology, they can flip flop any storyline they want.

    Someone mentioned that there was a reference to Capt. America
    hanging out on the moon.

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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Tracker1 on Sat May 8 22:18:00 2021
    Hello Tracker1!

    ** On Tuesday 04.05.21 - 09:23, Tracker1 wrote to MRO:

    On 5/3/2021 3:48 PM, MRO wrote:

    watch thor ragnarok.
    that's a great movie.

    The first Iron Man, Thor Ragnarok and Guardians of The
    Galaxy are hands down the best movies in the MCU. Infinity
    War and End Game are kind of must watch to move forward, but
    most of the others you can skip or watch as desired. I
    think Spiderman Homecoming was very good as well. --

    I've started Thor: Ragnarok. It was out in 2017. 2013-2018 was
    particularily a dark entertainment period for me, and I didn't
    really care about films and TV in general - so I missed that
    one. But I like it! I'm only up to the point where Thor is
    trapped in that "stupid chair" and some kind of contest is about
    to ensue. Visually, the film is beautifully done. The humour is
    nice, but helps to give pause to the more gruesome parts like
    the killings that Helo likes to do.

    The scenes when Thor is talking (or trying to talk with) Dr
    Strange were funny.

    I don't *think* I've seen Guardins of the Galaxy (apparently
    there are 3 of those films). They have Groot, and Rocket.. I
    don't recall ever seeing a film with them. The films were also
    in my media-dark period of 2013-2018. But a few reviews make it
    sound GotG to be a worthwhile try.

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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to JIMMY ANDERSON on Sat May 8 22:24:00 2021
    Hello JIMMY ANDERSON!

    ** On Tuesday 04.05.21 - 09:53, JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to OGG:

    I tackled the Endgame film in about 3 sessions. I simply
    got tired of the time-travel trickery..

    Did you watch Infinity War first? Or just went straight
    into Endgame?

    I went straight to Endgame. I don't recall ever seeing Infinity
    War. I guess that one explains Thanos' rampage.

    Yeah - they have to repeat... Remember when Tony Stark was
    ADAMENT to Banner about "don't undo anything, just bring
    back the people that were removed" (paraphrasing). He
    didn't want to undo his daughter!

    I thought the funniest part was when they were explaining how
    time-travel works by mentioning how it was used in other actual
    films. :D

    I'm not sure where Thanos comes from, but that dude had
    issues.

    I don't remember it being explained in the movies, but it's
    obvious he's a powerful being from 'out there.'

    Sounds like I will spin-up Infinity War at some point, soon.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Ogg on Sun May 9 10:59:00 2021
    Ogg wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

    Not long ago, there was a Tv series called Heroes, about group
    of people that were engineered to have powers. I invested in
    that one - if only to learn about their origins.

    I loved Heroes, but felt that the last few seasons went way downhill. Season
    1 stands alone by itself as one of the few seasons I would plan my week around.

    Things you never want to hear a time traveler say:



    "Huh. You look different without your scar..."




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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to fusion on Sun May 9 11:02:00 2021
    fusion wrote to Ogg <=-

    there were a few pre-Disney Marvel shows on Netflix.. they're all
    pretty good. and they're tied up quite nicely at the end with all of
    them coming together for The Defenders. i think most people would agree Daredevil was the best of the lot, perhaps followed by Punisher. so i'd watch them in whatever order makes sense but saves as much of those for last.

    I liked the detective noir feeling of Jessica Jones S1, loved that all of
    the shows centered around the same neighborhood, so you had a common feel.

    Krysten Witter in a leather jacket, engineer boots, t-shirt and old levis
    does it for me, I gotta admit.




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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Ogg on Sun May 9 11:11:00 2021
    Ogg wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

    Someone mentioned that there was a reference to Capt. America
    hanging out on the moon.

    (cue '40s radio announcer voice)

    "CAPTAIN AMERICA! Fighting Nazis in Europe, The USA, the MOON -- wherever they may hide!"

    If Marvel has a time machine, I want to go from MCU to Iron Sky and somehow get to Kung Fury.

    Post Black Widow, otherwise the movies would be all about them making out.


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  • From Elf@VERT/TIME/BATTLEST to Ogg on Mon May 10 22:42:00 2021
    Ogg wrote to Tracker1 <=-

    I don't *think* I've seen Guardins of the Galaxy (apparently
    there are 3 of those films). They have Groot, and Rocket.. I
    don't recall ever seeing a film with them. The films were also
    in my media-dark period of 2013-2018. But a few reviews make it
    sound GotG to be a worthwhile try.

    Guardians of the Galaxy movies are the best. Loved them.

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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Elf on Wed May 12 20:00:00 2021
    Hello Elf!

    ** On Monday 10.05.21 - 22:42, Elf wrote to Ogg:

    I don't *think* I've seen Guardins of the Galaxy
    (apparently there are 3 of those films). They have Groot,
    and Rocket.. I don't recall ever seeing a film with them.
    The films were also in my media-dark period of 2013-2018.
    But a few reviews make it sound GotG to be a worthwhile
    try.

    Guardians of the Galaxy movies are the best. Loved them.

    When I finish Ragnarok, I'll give the GotG a go. A this point
    in my life/time, I'm not interested in wasting time watching
    crap.

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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to OGG on Fri May 14 09:57:00 2021
    OGG wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

    Yeah, that, but I'm specifically talking about (trying to
    avoid spoilers for anyone like me that doesn't want details
    before they see it) -

    the statue...

    It was probably engineered into the story to cater to that
    demographic to emphasize equality as humans.

    Could have been, but if so I think they 'pulled it off' quite
    well! I didn't get a 'better than vibe,' like when earlier
    in the series someone called him the "Black Falcon" and he
    just Falcon. Something to the effect of "you're not 'black
    kid,' are you?"

    Not long ago, there was a Tv series called Heroes..

    I LOVED loved LOVED the first season!!! Was one long story
    and was really engaging! Then S2 seemed like a "well that
    worked, let's try again" and then S3 jumped the shark 'for
    me' - YMMV.

    I think I forgot about S3. :( S2 wasn't as engaging as S1.
    MCU fans should check out Heroes for a "realistic" twist on
    humans with unusual powers.

    I went back and watched Season One again and stopped. :-)

    I might do that too. At the time, I could only watch them on
    broadcast tv and wait a week for the next episode; by then, the
    emmersive feel of being vested in a story was gone.

    I don't mind the wait! I think it helps build anticipation and
    speculation. :-)

    My wife is the opposite - she won't watch something with me until
    she can binge it all. LOL

    Did you ever watch Dollhouse?!?!? That and Jericho! WOW!!!

    Briefly. Sounds like Westworld, but using humans as the
    programmable hosts.

    I guess, in a way, but like Westworld there was a story beneath
    the story going on...




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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to OGG on Fri May 14 09:58:00 2021
    OGG wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

    I missed that... But it could also be a secret that he's
    alive, and the 'world' thinks he is dead...

    Anything is possible in the MCU. :/ Now that they have time-
    machine technology, they can flip flop any storyline they want.

    Someone mentioned that there was a reference to Capt. America
    hanging out on the moon.

    I mentioned that. LOL




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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to OGG on Fri May 14 10:01:00 2021
    OGG wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

    I tackled the Endgame film in about 3 sessions. I simply
    got tired of the time-travel trickery..

    Did you watch Infinity War first? Or just went straight
    into Endgame?

    I went straight to Endgame. I don't recall ever seeing Infinity
    War. I guess that one explains Thanos' rampage.

    Well it was a build up over several movies, but Infinity War, to
    me, is part of the story. It and Engame could ALMOST be two parts
    of the same movie.

    I thought the funniest part was when they were explaining how
    time-travel works by mentioning how it was used in other actual
    films. :D

    Yeah. :-)

    I'm not sure where Thanos comes from, but that dude had
    issues.

    I don't remember it being explained in the movies, but it's
    obvious he's a powerful being from 'out there.'

    Sounds like I will spin-up Infinity War at some point, soon.

    Well it won't be as exciting, now that you know how it ends, LOL, but
    still a great show!





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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to fusion on Thu May 20 11:34:42 2021
    On 5/6/2021 3:58 AM, fusion wrote:

    there were a few pre-Disney Marvel shows on Netflix.. they're all
    pretty good. and they're tied up quite nicely at the end with all
    of them coming together for The Defenders. i think most people would
    agree Daredevil was the best of the lot, perhaps followed by
    Punisher. so i'd watch them in whatever order makes sense but saves
    as much of those for last.

    I liked Luke Cage a lot. Iron Fist was generally kind of bad about 2/3
    of the series. For the most part, the Netflix treatment was pretty
    good, I'm pretty disappointed that they couldn't reach a deal moving
    forward, but it likely came down to Disney+ concerns in the end.

    Mike Colter (Luke Cage) went on to a series called Evil, which is pretty
    good as well. Looks like they'll be putting it on Paramount+ instead of broadcast for season 2. I'll be taking to the high seas for this one, I
    can only handle paying for so many different services at a time leaching $7-20/month from me.
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